Conquest of India - A Historical Paradox - Extra History - Part 1

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Extra History

Extra History

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@viscountbp
@viscountbp 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: That monarch that didn't came to the durbar was in the middle of India himself as Prince of Wales, and was caught unaware when his mother was proclaimed Empress of India.
@sylviamontaez3889
@sylviamontaez3889 3 жыл бұрын
Edward VII was already king by then. the Durbar described at the beginning took place in 1903.
@RealLifeW0rld
@RealLifeW0rld 3 жыл бұрын
@@sylviamontaez3889 He's talking about the the Delhi Durbar of 1877 where Queen Victoria was proclaimed the Empress of India
@powerist209
@powerist209 3 жыл бұрын
There were 3 intact. One for Victoria, other for Edward, and last one for George.
@adarshmohapatra5058
@adarshmohapatra5058 3 жыл бұрын
@@powerist209 Is George the father of the current Queen Elizabeth?
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 3 жыл бұрын
@@adarshmohapatra5058 Her grandfather, George V. He was also the only one that actually attended the durbar.
@KyleRayner12
@KyleRayner12 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever wrote the line "Au contraire, Armchair" deserves a raise.
@mjgallo5950
@mjgallo5950 3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@aunulimansfield3277
@aunulimansfield3277 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@CaptainAlliance
@CaptainAlliance 3 жыл бұрын
*There you are, playing a WWII video game, and all of a sudden, you're an armchair historian*
@ericmcconnaughey2782
@ericmcconnaughey2782 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone called Griffin Johnson??
@VikingLord101
@VikingLord101 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainAlliance lol
@thetruerift
@thetruerift 3 жыл бұрын
Zoey better be riding a war elephant before the end of this series.
@Hk5463-t1o
@Hk5463-t1o 3 жыл бұрын
NO PUNS SHALL BE MADE WHILE THE CAT HAS AN ELEPHANT
@LydiaOfAragon64
@LydiaOfAragon64 3 жыл бұрын
Looool 😂😂😂
@2Links
@2Links 3 жыл бұрын
It must be done!
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 3 жыл бұрын
Or a tiger...
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 3 жыл бұрын
YAAASSSSSS!!!!
@nzx.
@nzx. 3 жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I'm super psyched for this series.
@CaptBackwards
@CaptBackwards 3 жыл бұрын
Except the emperor himself did not show up
@elikorn8777
@elikorn8777 3 жыл бұрын
As a brit I'm a bit embarrassed
@blink182bfsftw
@blink182bfsftw 3 жыл бұрын
@@elikorn8777 Your understanding is appreciated, usually on videos like these certain Brits glorify colonialism. See: the recent video on Megaprojects
@triculious
@triculious 3 жыл бұрын
As a Mexican, I know basically zilch about Indian history, I'm quite excited about some starting points!
@heli0s101
@heli0s101 3 жыл бұрын
@@elikorn8777 It's something to be proud of, not embarrassed of.
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 3 жыл бұрын
>historians love subjects of which they can just talk and talk forever without ever reaching an authoritative stance
@zachlong5427
@zachlong5427 3 жыл бұрын
Bah! The cowards! They ought to make an authoritative stance, so that they can make more history talk on the for- or -against viewpoints!
@lambert801
@lambert801 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@thenoblepoptart
@thenoblepoptart 3 жыл бұрын
It’s more like popular subjects have been done to death and everyone likes novelty.
@hamzaferoz6162
@hamzaferoz6162 3 жыл бұрын
"How did Britiain Control India?" Well like everyone else. Willing Vassals
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson 3 жыл бұрын
Rule by and through the natives. Also cannons.
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@Praisethesunson The indians had the cannons, not the English
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Carewolf The British tied Indians to the cannons and then fired the cannons. That's how the British kept their Indian soldiers following orders.
@kevinmendoza6386
@kevinmendoza6386 3 жыл бұрын
@@Praisethesunson Wasn't that way later?
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmendoza6386 Depends if you count the east India company or not.
@alexv3357
@alexv3357 3 жыл бұрын
1:25 Okay so why does that map show Scotland and Ireland as independent in 1901, when Ireland was very much not free and Scotland is still part of the UK?
@BatCostumeGuy
@BatCostumeGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Because they forgor💀
@Xalerdane
@Xalerdane 3 жыл бұрын
“Oops.”
@SonofSethoitae
@SonofSethoitae 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they used the 17th century map from later in the video instead of the 20th century map.
@NGBigfield
@NGBigfield 3 жыл бұрын
Always excited to start a new series!
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 3 жыл бұрын
that is pretty correct
@pileofcheese5017
@pileofcheese5017 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't like how centralised you present the Mughal Empire here. The Mughals were largely forced to rule through concessions to local rulers, and had trouble establishing a Muslim government structure. They also did not rule all of India. A second stickler is the fact that while yes, those trading ports were partly for trade with India, they were also in no small part used as stops along the way to China.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
The Mughal Sultan did what pretty much every feudal kingdom did in history: let landlords keep their lands in exchange for constant tribute payments
@tams805
@tams805 3 жыл бұрын
@@DieNibelungenliad EC have a habit of embellishing those they see as the oppressed.
@andrewblair370
@andrewblair370 3 жыл бұрын
Also presenting the Mughal army as a massive, modern force and then going on to directly contradict themselves by mentioning the armored war elephants...
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewblair370 War elephants are generally useless if your soldiers are disciplined heck the romans demonstrated this at cannae
@Mirtis-m3v
@Mirtis-m3v 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cecilia-ky3uw i think you mean Zama not Cannae😅 In the battel of cannae Hannibal destroyed the romans
@TheAnalyticalEngine
@TheAnalyticalEngine 3 жыл бұрын
Those are some...interesting...choices in depictions of Britain on those maps
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the word choice for Britain is a bit odd
@puneetmishra4726
@puneetmishra4726 3 жыл бұрын
Scotland and Ireland was not part of the union yet
@billcipherproductions1789
@billcipherproductions1789 3 жыл бұрын
@@puneetmishra4726 In 1903, they were though.
@puneetmishra4726
@puneetmishra4726 3 жыл бұрын
@@billcipherproductions1789 oh, I meant in 17th century when Brits came to India
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 3 жыл бұрын
for India, too
@gluttonousmanu2725
@gluttonousmanu2725 3 жыл бұрын
However I would differ Mughal Empire was in decline during the rime Aurangzeb and the Marathas were meanwhile bulldozing the subcontinent where Mughals were weak There wasn't a centralized power as shown in this episode when EIC began their wars. In simpler terms India was agin not united by a big empire but a lot of kingdoms fighting amongst themselves
@iamhoney1018
@iamhoney1018 3 жыл бұрын
Marathas helped a lot in British Conquest of India
@GauravKetkar08
@GauravKetkar08 3 жыл бұрын
Are you The Manu Pillai - the author - by any chance? :)
@007dalal
@007dalal 3 жыл бұрын
When British came to India, Marathas weren't big. Even Shivaji wasn't on scene at thag time
@anuragpatel1476
@anuragpatel1476 3 жыл бұрын
@Agastya Prince but they still put up a fight unlike Mir Jafar
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 3 жыл бұрын
The Mughals might have been in decline, but they were still wealthy and the biggest power in India at that time. The English were in an even sorrier state at that time and couldn't even say "we're still rich." This might have something to do with them beating themselves over religious disputes, albeit not nearly as bad as the HRE did.
@Hablablah
@Hablablah 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't come to you, you come to us" - Said every wealthy Eastern power that went on to get colonized.
@sreyarthakrishna6195
@sreyarthakrishna6195 3 жыл бұрын
Not Japan.
@ObywatelMurawjow
@ObywatelMurawjow 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreyarthakrishna6195 doesn't they said "we don't come to you, and you don't come to us" instead?
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@siyacer
@siyacer 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreyarthakrishna6195 they're a puppet now lol
@memesins5647
@memesins5647 3 жыл бұрын
@@siyacer like your ancestors were ours
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this for a while. The reason the British conquered was a mix of disunity among Indians, religious tensions, traitors, superior tech and tactics and economic dismemberment. Overall, a very sad tale.
@Ricklyplinth
@Ricklyplinth 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, colonialism always leads to tragedy.
@Grzzgwzz
@Grzzgwzz 3 жыл бұрын
You are directly contradicting this video at 5:01 and 6:53
@sirsteam6455
@sirsteam6455 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grzzgwzz Keep in the point the videos arguments are solely placed in the 17th century not the 18th or 19th in which the British would become so.
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grzzgwzz lol
@Ishpreetb264
@Ishpreetb264 3 жыл бұрын
You're wrong. British ruled over India by the means you mentioned but the British conquest of India was different.
@AlcoholicBoredom
@AlcoholicBoredom 3 жыл бұрын
5:25 “[The English] quite possibly would have been destroyed by the Spanish Armada if not for a fortuitous storm.” Except no. Not at all. Even before the storm at the Battle of Gravelines the English owned the Spanish Armada, not losing a single ship. The Spanish ships were built in an outdated medieval style which favored size in order to board the enemy vessel. The English were using a more modern style whose emphasis was on maneuverable cannon fire at a distance, making boarding by the enemy very difficult. In addition, the English were using four wheeled cannons with uniform cannonball sizes perfect for easy reloading below decks. The Spanish were using two wheeled cannons that were awkward to load and move and a lack of uniform cannonball size meant that they were often scrambling to find the right size cannonball for each particular cannon.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
The battle was indecisive. The Spanish Armada was still strong enough to invade England
@tams805
@tams805 3 жыл бұрын
EC seem to have a bee in their bonnet regarding the UK. They are also quite ready to jump to conclusions.
@deadline93
@deadline93 3 жыл бұрын
Not really the ship based artillery was viewd as an inefect weapon and very secondary. Really the best thing the English did during the spanish armada was the use of fireships to disperce and force the spanish to cut thire anchors leaving them vonruble to storms. Really naval figthing in the age of sail can be split into two eras. 1400-1650 is the age of boarding and 1650-1850 is the age of the ship of the line. At this point sinking ships with guns is really hard to do both because most gun crews are poorly trained, the guns are fairly ligth only around 12-24 punders on the big warships smaller warships are down in 6-12 punders. Untopp of that woddenships normaly dont want to sink they are really reciliant and navel doctrin is its better to capture an enemy then sink him. So the spanish ships where fully in line with the era thire size and sizable fore and aftcastles where designed to give them controll during boarding actions. This only chages after the anglo dutch wars which shows the effectivness of more heavily armed better trained and more gun focused ships.
@Lucianfuhlbruck
@Lucianfuhlbruck 3 жыл бұрын
Love that you showed Liverpool winning
@ngalethu5528
@ngalethu5528 3 жыл бұрын
I ❤️Liverpool
@supremegeneral2424
@supremegeneral2424 3 жыл бұрын
YNWA
@erwansallard5471
@erwansallard5471 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the moghuls too were foreign invaders coming out of a backwater region who still managed to conquer and rule much more developed and populated countries. As were most ruling dinasties in India. The subcontinent is very bad at defending itself, but excellent at assimilating its conquerors.
@yj9032
@yj9032 3 жыл бұрын
Initially they were foreign, but akbar was as much indian as any other Indian.
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 3 жыл бұрын
@@yj9032 depends you could define Indian til before Modern India as being Hindu, and treat the Mughals as foreign conquerors kinda like how Kublai Khan is treated
@psuyog
@psuyog 3 жыл бұрын
@@yj9032 Akbar was initially a follower of Arab religion, how can he be Indian?
@morningstar3997
@morningstar3997 3 жыл бұрын
@@psuyog by being born in India currently modern India has population of approximately 200 million people who follow middle Eastern religion and if we go by your logic than those aren't Indians ?
@siddharthyadavchekkala2845
@siddharthyadavchekkala2845 3 жыл бұрын
@@psuyog Akbar was initially foreign but the end of his reign he apostated and founded a new religion. He became Indian and adopted Indian ethos of tolerance through his life. Not unlike the previous info Greek Kings or qutub Shahis in the south. Aurangazeb destroyed this legacy.
@robertgrey5887
@robertgrey5887 3 жыл бұрын
I have legit just finished a Uni module on this subject, Your timing as ever is on the dote
@theanglo-lithuanian1768
@theanglo-lithuanian1768 3 жыл бұрын
Extra history released the crusades and medicine (John snow) roughly at the same time I did their exams... So that was handy.
@Crabzula
@Crabzula 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't take anything EC has to say seriously if you care about passing your exam
@theanglo-lithuanian1768
@theanglo-lithuanian1768 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crabzula Speak for yourself. Did the trick.
@risymian3374
@risymian3374 3 жыл бұрын
@@theanglo-lithuanian1768 I agree with you, EC is good enough to be a second/alternative learning source. Modules, papers, & published books are still better for main source tho. Also, don't mind Crabzula. He is just a salty pro-colonialism.
@silentbyte196
@silentbyte196 3 жыл бұрын
@@risymian3374 Agreed. They are called 'EXTRA' History for a reason.
@EnoshII
@EnoshII 3 жыл бұрын
"Flintlocks were far more complicated to manufacture than simple matchlocks, thus less-developed countries continued to use the latter into the mid 19th century, long after Europe had made the switch in the late 17th. In the Indian subcontinent, the natively-manufactured toradar matchlock was the most common firearm type until about 1830"
@yj9032
@yj9032 3 жыл бұрын
They might feature this in their "lies" episode.
@SafavidAfsharid3197
@SafavidAfsharid3197 3 жыл бұрын
Then imagine loosing to them during 1st and 2nd anglo-mysore wars and 1st anglo-maratha war lol.
@peterjerman7549
@peterjerman7549 3 жыл бұрын
I mean this whole episode is just pure occidentalism and romanticising the "other". "OMG guys, India was so great, so perfect" yeah sure buddy
@bendeguzborda5902
@bendeguzborda5902 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterjerman7549 yea, wenn EH said that their administration so good was that even minor nobles lived in luxury, I tought : Its an interesting way to say that they tax the sh!t out of the peasants. But cant say bad about a would be colonized nation can we.
@peterjerman7549
@peterjerman7549 3 жыл бұрын
@@bendeguzborda5902 Definitely, EC takes this romantic occidentalist approach way too frequently, which hurts importantly native, in this case Indian, research. Stereotypes like these can seriously damage public understanding of a topic.
@Jimbobthethird
@Jimbobthethird 3 жыл бұрын
Every single person from the subcontinent be like : "We have been summoned"
@arthurdowney2846
@arthurdowney2846 3 жыл бұрын
The image of Portugal and The Dutch Republic as mice wielding needles for spears will stay with me forever😂😂😂
@rickshaw296
@rickshaw296 3 жыл бұрын
You folks majorly mis portrayed Englands place in the 16th century. A generation after the Wars of the Roses, in the time of Henry the 8th, England was a dominate power in Europe. Trading in the Mediterranean, showing off in France in the "field of gold" festivals, building lavish country estates and boasting one of the biggest navies in Europe. 16th century English wool was clothing half of Europe, and Scottish fisheries were feeding the other half with fish caught off Iceland and Newfound Land. By Lizzy the 1st's time, English scientists were breaking new ground in science, and English ships were starting to travel the world, trading and plundering. Sure, the Mayflower expedition was put together by desperate peasants, but the real work of colonizing America was done by English corporations, wealthy private English citizens and money from the English government. 16th century England was an up and comer!
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 3 жыл бұрын
I'd still categorise England as a 2nd rate European power. The HRE and France were more significant
@khanofkhaganas803
@khanofkhaganas803 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgw9990 Agreed . The French would have been the leading Candidate to influence India . They were the ones who used Subsidary Alliances and Sepoy armies under Dupleix
@intergalactic92
@intergalactic92 2 жыл бұрын
This has been a party political broadcast from the UK Independence Party. In all seriousness though, whilst we were on the up, we were certainly not a big player, and our continued rise was not inevitable. France and Spain were the big powers at the time, and by all accounts there was no reason to think they would diminish, certainly not in favour of that tiny island off the french coast.
@951sht
@951sht 3 жыл бұрын
Your Indian viewers were waiting for this, and, you're about to receive a lot of views.
@syonadaniel8214
@syonadaniel8214 3 жыл бұрын
Here
@yj9032
@yj9032 3 жыл бұрын
They will get a lot of hate from hindutva brigade, for showing mughals.
@ayyazkhan1917
@ayyazkhan1917 3 жыл бұрын
A pakistani is here as well, love the mughals hate the British just like yall
@951sht
@951sht 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayyazkhan1917 yes, solidarity with all.
@jhonshephard921
@jhonshephard921 3 жыл бұрын
In the US we Pakistan and Indian people call each other bahi. Remember Jinnah and Gandhi were friends.
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 3 жыл бұрын
"How did Britain conquer India when the Mughal Empire was so mighty?" Spoiler Alert: Aurangzeb offended so many people that when the Marathas revolted, basically the entire Empire seceded at once, and the petty kingdoms squabbling were easy prey for the British.
@billcipherproductions1789
@billcipherproductions1789 3 жыл бұрын
But it's more complex than that. Because if it was that easy, France or Spain or the Dutch would've taken India.
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. After Aurungzeb, Empire was still intact. But there stayed no stability in Mughal empire. There was factionalism, incompetent rulers, weak finances and so on. And their military was already getting outdated. The Nadir Shah's raid was the final nail on the coffin. Incompetent Muhammad Shah Rangeela just had dance and songs, did not care to fix the empire. Even the European powers were shocked by seeing how easily Nadir Shah plundered Delhi, because earlier the British had been badly defeated by Aurungzeb in a conflict.
@sars910
@sars910 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. That was a myth propagated by the British to discredit local rulers in the eyes of the Indian people. In reality Aurangzeb was no more brutal or magnanimous than any other ruler of the time. What actually caused the fall of the Mughal Empire was Aurangzeb not leaving anyone adequate to replace him. None of Aurangzeb's heirs had the strength of will needed to keep an empire of than size together. There was also the problem of Indian vassals, regardless of empire, religion or ethnicity, having a tendency to turn against their allies for their own gain. Religion probably had very little to do with it. For example, what sealed the fate of the Subcontinent was the defeat of the Nawab of Bengal by the East India Trading Company. The Nawab of Bengal, a Muslim, was betrayed by his vizier, Mir Jafir (Also a Muslim), in order to curry favour with the Christian British. Similarly, many Hindus fought against the Marathas and Ranjit Singh of the Sikh Empire under the British flag. In fact, the Mughal emperor was considered the Emperor of India long after he had lost most of his lands and power. The army that flocked to the Mughal Emperor during the 1857 War of Independence was 2/3rds Hindu and 1/3rd Muslim. In short, things are a lot more complicated than modern leaders may have you believe.
@juice8431
@juice8431 3 жыл бұрын
The British literally could not have chosen a better time or location (Bengal) to come.
@yj9032
@yj9032 3 жыл бұрын
Weak kings, powerful regional players.
@Breakfast_of_Champions
@Breakfast_of_Champions 3 жыл бұрын
Indirect rule, through conspiring and corrupt nobility. And make damn sure the people don't understand what's happening.
@sars910
@sars910 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the most concise and accurate summary of the Indian conquest.
@juice8431
@juice8431 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, in paper, the British didnt really have much land. Only ones in Bengal, Madras, Punjab, Bombay, Karachi and a few scattered here and there. The majority still had Indian kings but in practice, those kings were merely figure heads forced to obey every command the British said in fear of an invasion
@sionsmedia8249
@sionsmedia8249 3 жыл бұрын
The Caste system (which the British did partially abolish) was a mojer help in doing that.
@alexv3357
@alexv3357 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention ruthlessly exploiting internal divisions
@mvalthegamer2450
@mvalthegamer2450 3 жыл бұрын
Which was only made possible due to some incredible luck and accidents in bengal, which allowed the british to gain the richest province in the region hostage.
@shubharthidutta979
@shubharthidutta979 3 жыл бұрын
Extra credits- posting a video on India Their Indian viewers- we have been summoned
@yj9032
@yj9032 3 жыл бұрын
Get ready for hindutva hate.
@abhinavjha3082
@abhinavjha3082 3 жыл бұрын
@@yj9032 They'll ruin this, like they've ruined their sad pathetic lives
@rudrasingh6354
@rudrasingh6354 3 жыл бұрын
@@yj9032 Hindutva is evil tho. Hindutva and Hinduism is different.
@anirudh177
@anirudh177 3 жыл бұрын
@@yj9032 Hindutva and Hinduism is different.
@paullenoue8173
@paullenoue8173 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you've introduced Armchair Historian, I'm surprised he wasn't a regular character from the very beginning. Didn't know you needed a devil's advocate until you had one.
@jose.lfurtado6245
@jose.lfurtado6245 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for armchair!
@mememaster2772
@mememaster2772 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, the armchair was annoying and broke the flow of the episode.
@deftheocelot9125
@deftheocelot9125 3 жыл бұрын
There's already a channel by that name so they cant lol
@paullenoue8173
@paullenoue8173 3 жыл бұрын
@@mememaster2772 Agree with the annoying part, but with history there will _always_ be misunderstandings, misinformation, erroneous translations, paradoxical WTF moments, etc. that should be called out during the show.
@cyka7705
@cyka7705 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder the armschair historian is refer to the general amrschair historian or that channel with the same name
@aidanrogers4438
@aidanrogers4438 3 жыл бұрын
1:27 Why isn’t Scotland included in the U.K. here? Has the channel become a Nicola Sturgeon simp or something?
@dandy-lions5788
@dandy-lions5788 3 жыл бұрын
Act of Union with Scotland wasn't passed until 1707
@queenofhearts3664
@queenofhearts3664 3 жыл бұрын
@@dandy-lions5788 that map was supposed to depict 1903
@landmine9302
@landmine9302 3 жыл бұрын
They are americans, daily reminder that they think that, "Braveheart" was an accurate potrayal of reality. Thank god their country is in decline.
@exiledadrian103
@exiledadrian103 3 жыл бұрын
@@landmine9302 As an American: You don’t say
@sarasamaletdin4574
@sarasamaletdin4574 3 жыл бұрын
Edward VII wasn’t a good prince (regarding the playboy stuff you mentioned) but as a king he was quite decent
@NYCfrankie
@NYCfrankie 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch that 05 uefa champions league final reminder really stung
@wasneeplus
@wasneeplus 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you got your revenge two years later at least. Funny though, since that Milanese team wasn't nearly as good as the 05 team imho.
@NYCfrankie
@NYCfrankie 3 жыл бұрын
@@wasneeplus agreed the 05 team was absolutely better
@jasonperry709
@jasonperry709 3 жыл бұрын
Nowhere is safe…
@valorix3385
@valorix3385 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! As a Pakistani, this topic is pretty important to me. Can't wait to see what comes next in this series!
@queenofhearts3664
@queenofhearts3664 3 жыл бұрын
@@DieNibelungenliad based
@manzarmaqbool6176
@manzarmaqbool6176 Жыл бұрын
Same, I belong to one of the last 6 traditional Mughals families in South Asia, and seeing such videos is a great experience.
@joshuadyson8193
@joshuadyson8193 3 жыл бұрын
the Mughals had a great empire on paper and a brilliant/vast army... again on paper, but the empire was crumbling and the army was ill trained. Cool series but the Mughals were not as stable as you made them sound.
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
They were pretty stable till Aurungzeb. But Aurungzeb's empire was getting cracks, but just needed some capable rulers to hold and fix it. No one came.
@GideonGleeful95
@GideonGleeful95 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf this is talking about the 1600s when the Mughals were at their height. It was only at the end of the early 1700s after the death of Aurengzeb when the Mughals had a sudden collapse (in large part thanks to the Marathas).
@christianvalencia4489
@christianvalencia4489 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the Mughals were declining at the time.
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
How was the Mughal army ill-trained? They had the best army in the world until Sultan Aurengzab died, leaving his lands to be ruled by his incompetent sons who wasted the army's manpower and resources on fighting each other while there were rebellions everywhere and a big invasion on its way from Afghans and Persians
@DieNibelungenliad
@DieNibelungenliad 3 жыл бұрын
@@GideonGleeful95 Nader Shah*
@athesiaman7749
@athesiaman7749 3 жыл бұрын
There’s actually a great video covering the development of the Indian state by the KZbinr Kraut that offers at least some insight into why India has historically had issues dealing with external threats such as the Mughals and British
@arjunbadi6038
@arjunbadi6038 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Maratha empire, which controlled a large amount of India, deserved a mention
@mianyousaf1093
@mianyousaf1093 Жыл бұрын
At that time maratha empire was not exist.
@Ginger_Hrn
@Ginger_Hrn Жыл бұрын
There were many empires but just like a military campaign, only the top ones get the mention
@manzarmaqbool6176
@manzarmaqbool6176 Жыл бұрын
Only the top ones get mentioned. It was more of a Maratha Confederacy then a empire, different states ruling confederacy and uncentralized. They would have had to mention the Mysorian Kingdom,Bengal,Sikh state,Afghan state, Hyderabad as well if they go with all the rest
@manzarmaqbool6176
@manzarmaqbool6176 Жыл бұрын
Only the top ones get mentioned. It was more of a Maratha Confederacy then a empire, different states ruling confederacy and uncentralized. They would have had to mention the Mysorian Kingdom,Bengal,Sikh state,Afghan state, Hyderabad as well if they go with all the rest
@RainbowBoo42
@RainbowBoo42 3 жыл бұрын
I swear every extra history topic has been getting more and more interesting And Im looking forward to a years worth of documentaries
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 3 жыл бұрын
history is an interesting topic own its own
@sionsmedia8249
@sionsmedia8249 3 жыл бұрын
If you think the British conquest of India is a paradox, then you might also think the Persian (later Mughal) Empire, Afghanistan (former Mongols), or Ancient Macadonia. India has a long history of being conquered by smaller foreign powers, the British were just the latest and most successful (conquering the entire sub continent) to do so.
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 2 жыл бұрын
Afghanistan and Macedonia didn't conquer India. English were lucky
@nauticaltruck802
@nauticaltruck802 2 жыл бұрын
India never existed until recently. Most Indian empires aside from the Mughals and the Mauryans never ruled over half of the subcontinent
@nauticaltruck802
@nauticaltruck802 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Macedonia defeated a tributary kingdom on the outskirts of modern Pakistan, they didn’t get conquer much
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nauticaltruck802 Wrong. India is ancient and Mughals controoled most of the sub-continent
@augustulus1277
@augustulus1277 Жыл бұрын
2:19 Hi, I’m Griffin Johnsen, The Armchair Historian
@Manstermash
@Manstermash 5 ай бұрын
Hey Army!
@neelspd
@neelspd 3 жыл бұрын
I have been an informal student of Indian History since my middle school days, and this introductory part is a great condensation of the economic and political strength of the concerned parties at the inception of the colonisation. Great Work.
@2Links
@2Links 3 жыл бұрын
Get Zoey on a war elephant!
@rithvikpbalaji1002
@rithvikpbalaji1002 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the rockets mentioned in the star spangled banner might be reverse engineered from an Indian rocket made in Mysore
@aritrochatterjee4566
@aritrochatterjee4566 3 жыл бұрын
The rockets had guiding sticks made of swords and did much damage than just exploding
@MA-kw3ov
@MA-kw3ov 3 жыл бұрын
There’s no mention of rockets in the star spangled banner
@rithvikpbalaji1002
@rithvikpbalaji1002 3 жыл бұрын
“The Star-Spangled Banner.” The poem, originally titled “The Defence of Fort M'Henry,” was written after Key witnessed the Maryland fort being bombarded by rockets by the British during the War of 1812
@chingizzhylkybayev8575
@chingizzhylkybayev8575 Жыл бұрын
​@@MA-kw3ov and the rocket's red flair, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night, that our flag was still there
@georgethompson5407
@georgethompson5407 3 жыл бұрын
+extra credits, just so you know, when you were talking about the Delhi Durbar, to you left Scotland out of the United Kingdom
@matthiasw8777
@matthiasw8777 3 жыл бұрын
I did not expect an '05 Champions League final joke in this. Well done, quality content as always
@animeshpati5525
@animeshpati5525 2 жыл бұрын
that was a great final
@About37Hobos
@About37Hobos 2 жыл бұрын
The best
@forzaacmilan36
@forzaacmilan36 Жыл бұрын
A dick move if you ask me personally.
@honkhonk1712
@honkhonk1712 3 жыл бұрын
Even in India we are told history from already explained situations, it would really be interesting to learn how many things actually went down.
@foundationgamer9771
@foundationgamer9771 3 жыл бұрын
2:46 2 + 2 does not equal whale, it equals 5. Anyone get it?
@Vernardo
@Vernardo 3 ай бұрын
That's nil.
@newworld2086
@newworld2086 3 жыл бұрын
Mughals were not in absolute power when EIC came in. Please look into Anglo-Maratha wars that actually solidified EICs rule in India.
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
You know when EIC came? In 1600s. Jahangir was the emperor. Extra Credit does a lot of research before making videos. They are rarely wrong.
@jayantjha3128
@jayantjha3128 3 жыл бұрын
Battle of plassey was imp
@anirudh177
@anirudh177 3 жыл бұрын
EIC came in the 1600s, back then the Mughals were still powerful, If we talk about the situation when the EIC got Bengal in 1757, which made them a regional power in the subcontinent, at that time the Marathas were at their peak under the 8th Peshwa Balaji Baji Rao Bhat.
@memesins5647
@memesins5647 3 жыл бұрын
There was already a Anglo-Mughal war where EIC lost and banned by Aurangzeb until they paid huge fines.
@mianyousaf1093
@mianyousaf1093 Жыл бұрын
EIC came in 1600 and check the map at that time
@sreeram4964
@sreeram4964 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is.. your story is England vs India. But India was a region with many kingdoms. Britain simply made them fight each other.
@myhonestreaction6217
@myhonestreaction6217 2 жыл бұрын
And it works
@ragnarlothbrok7973
@ragnarlothbrok7973 3 жыл бұрын
So exited been my fav channel for quite some time
@kloassie
@kloassie 3 жыл бұрын
0:46 _"... with candalabra's on it's tusks"_ This is arguably the closest IRL version of the ancient psychic tandem war elephant!!
@StRodeNL
@StRodeNL 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you would do a series on the Dutch Golden Age and how incredibly misunderstood it is. No wealth due to colonialism, but due to superior economic ideas. I think it would be very interesting for you to discuss. Good new series by the way! Looking forward to the rest of the series!
@jacobprice2579
@jacobprice2579 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this should be a good series. By the way, Edward VII was many things, but I think “lazy” is a bit of a stretch.
@tams805
@tams805 3 жыл бұрын
EC seem to have a bit of a thing against the UK.
@redcrown5070
@redcrown5070 3 жыл бұрын
@@tams805 Everyone have a thing against the British, not the UK.
@sakataginko9092
@sakataginko9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@tams805 Even the British have a thing against the British.
@InuyashaHanyu
@InuyashaHanyu 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakataginko9092 Damn the British, they ruined Britain!
@robertbeckett7654
@robertbeckett7654 3 жыл бұрын
true, he was very dedicated to eating lunch.
@miss42310
@miss42310 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the fights to begin 😍
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv 3 жыл бұрын
What fights?
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think they are going to discuss India-Pakistan issue. It's their policy to stay before 1920s
@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc 3 жыл бұрын
@@grapeshott There have been videos on WW2 by them.
@scrollcaps
@scrollcaps 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the armchair from Blue's clues is a lot more condensing then I remember.
@alessandrodelogu7931
@alessandrodelogu7931 3 жыл бұрын
The British conquered India like one eats an artichoke: one leaf at a time.
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 3 жыл бұрын
not really. instead of traditional conquering, they somehow managed to buy, bribe, inherit, take by force, take by treaty, take by fraud, until the British sat at the dominant center of the artichoke
@alessandrodelogu7931
@alessandrodelogu7931 3 жыл бұрын
@@eljanrimsa5843 yes, but still one kingdom at a time. The British took advantage of the fragmentation of India to become slowly, with patience, the dominant power of the subcontinent. This would not have happened with a strong and united Indian empire, like the Mughals or the Maurya.
@JoeOfGoa
@JoeOfGoa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this , I can already tell this will be exciting and fun series to see, and maybe also find out what all the school textbooks missed.
@sunlight9056
@sunlight9056 3 жыл бұрын
I hate not being able to binge an entire series. It’s soo good, I want more!
@drishaanpaliwal
@drishaanpaliwal 3 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to another indian series
@anoushkashenoy692
@anoushkashenoy692 3 жыл бұрын
Did they have another before this? I used to watch this channel a while ago but stopped, but then started again when I saw this video pop up on my feed.
@drishaanpaliwal
@drishaanpaliwal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they had one about the saragahi fort
@lewislw4344
@lewislw4344 3 жыл бұрын
OMG YOU GUYS ACTUALLY USED THE MIRACLE OF ISTANBUL AS AN HISTORICAL REFERENCE!!! As a Liverpool fan I almost screamed when I saw that frame at 2:55 YNWA Extra Credits team!
@gonotgone1
@gonotgone1 3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see your referring to Britain and not just England, but why is Scotland not coloured in with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland?
@ciarancurley5482
@ciarancurley5482 3 жыл бұрын
There betting on Scottish Independence happening before Irish reunification lol
@PaulfromChicago
@PaulfromChicago 3 жыл бұрын
At the time the map was referencing, Scotland was an independent nation.
@gonotgone1
@gonotgone1 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaulfromChicago in 1903 I think not, later on in the video when they talk about the English empire absolutely makes sense, but at the beginning of the video they are taking about 1903 and then it’s the United Kingdom but the map excludes Scotland for some bizarre reason.
@PaulfromChicago
@PaulfromChicago 3 жыл бұрын
@@gonotgone1 yup, you're right.
@17-MASY
@17-MASY 2 жыл бұрын
3:24 I love this picture
@Just_A_History_Nerd
@Just_A_History_Nerd 3 жыл бұрын
Was that annoying chair really necessary?
@xxmemestar69xx82
@xxmemestar69xx82 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because idiots love to act like they’re experts.
@nnspenaz2343
@nnspenaz2343 3 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t you including Scotland and the rest of Ireland when showing Britain in 1903?
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a little weird, especially given the huge role of Scots in India!
@iapetusmccool
@iapetusmccool 3 жыл бұрын
That map makes no sense at all. For some reason they have included Northern Ireland, which wasn't even a thing at the time.
@nnspenaz2343
@nnspenaz2343 3 жыл бұрын
@@iapetusmccool exactly the whole of Ireland was part of the UK
@WebertHest
@WebertHest 3 жыл бұрын
BadHistory is going to have a field day with this series. So many misrepresentations, untruths, slides, etc already.
@pozzowon
@pozzowon 2 жыл бұрын
"Sorry Milan" That hurt so bad, 17 years later
@nightmareeyes9419
@nightmareeyes9419 3 жыл бұрын
6:03 … near complete rule over the India is controlling half of an country while being in state of nearly unstoppable conflict with at least a few regions?
@forzaacmilan36
@forzaacmilan36 Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to get attacked like this. No need, no need.
@gracefulcubix4730
@gracefulcubix4730 3 жыл бұрын
the EIC were probably the only ones to conquer India from the Southern and north eastern parts interestingly. Most foreign conquerors arrive from the north west and conquer the fertile north. when they try their hand in the southern parts, their resources were exhausted due to a multitude of factors and loose them in a matter of years to rebels.
@safisiddiqui6368
@safisiddiqui6368 3 жыл бұрын
That's a splendid intro to this topic. Much better than our history books.
@ihl0700677525
@ihl0700677525 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think 16th/17th century Europe were that "backward" compared to the Mughal India. I mean by that time European powers already colonizing the Americas and prove themselves to be powerful players in Asia (Portugal in particular was notorious for their greed and tenacity, from Africa, Arabia, India, all the way to Japan). Commodities from the Americas (e.g. tobacco) were quite popular in Asia, altho they were ofc no match for silk and certain spices.
@GideonGleeful95
@GideonGleeful95 3 жыл бұрын
I think the point was that Britain at the time was far behind the European powers. If you compared the New World holdings of England in the 1600s with like, Spain, for example, it was much smaller
@grantm6933
@grantm6933 3 жыл бұрын
@@GideonGleeful95 but, of course, there is a difference between saying England was behind on the colonisation game on the one hand and England was a backwater on the other. These are two very different claims.
@priyanshsahay3573
@priyanshsahay3573 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantm6933 England was a backwater compared to Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, China or India
@tams805
@tams805 3 жыл бұрын
@@GideonGleeful95 Britain was somewhat behind and not very powerful. But their military technology was still about on par with the rest of Europe (in a few cases superior, just not in number) and in turn Europe's with the likes of the Mughal Empire.
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 3 жыл бұрын
@@priyanshsahay3573 did that matter apparently no because Hernan Cortez conquered the aztecs with 600 men and himself
@winterroll5255
@winterroll5255 3 жыл бұрын
Pumped for the next episodes. Their angle and approach is perfect!
@fidelklckap1821
@fidelklckap1821 3 жыл бұрын
Extra history makes fun of armchair historians(rightfully) while they are also armchair historians and are known to make many mistakes in their videos
@sionsmedia8249
@sionsmedia8249 3 жыл бұрын
And this video has already shown many (quite big) mistakes. Like saying India had a good army, wich they didn't, not just when Britain came but also because of the Caste system for thousands of years, and that's why India has been conquered by multiply smaller foreign powers.
@tams805
@tams805 3 жыл бұрын
@@sionsmedia8249 Yeah, this video is incredibly rich of them. Don't get me wrong; I enjoy their videos for the most part. But they are entertainment and a launch platform for learning more. The actual content isn't reliable.
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
@@sionsmedia8249 Indians had a good army. It's not a mistake. Yes, Mughal army was declining from 1720s, but other kingdoms had good armies. The Indian rulers could defeat the Europeans in battles till 1800s. Marathas, Tipu, Ranjit Singh, etc repeatedly defeated the English in many battles.
@grapeshott
@grapeshott 3 жыл бұрын
@@tams805 No, they are accurate here. It's a misconception that all Indian rulers had weak armies in 1700s
@memesins5647
@memesins5647 3 жыл бұрын
@@sionsmedia8249 Oh really? Should I remind you of Childs War?
@anamosamapper7521
@anamosamapper7521 3 жыл бұрын
I think jts really great how this channel isnt eurocentric and covers history worldwide, its really interesting and ive learned some uncommon things
@scottanno8861
@scottanno8861 3 жыл бұрын
7:15, WAIT, you're saying DIVERSITY ISN'T our strength??
@Shadowotd
@Shadowotd 3 жыл бұрын
Really waiting for part 2 :)
@karuncreates955
@karuncreates955 3 жыл бұрын
I am indian and I am very fascinated and psyched about the series . I am always told the common explanation but a ton more praising of India . I am proud to know the true truth and power of india . Love from india .,❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ . Pin me if you can . Yours sincerely 🤠🤠.byee howdy
@Moonstone.mp4
@Moonstone.mp4 Жыл бұрын
My dad wrote a book about this event, in case anybody is interested in reading more! It's called: Delhi Durbar: 1911 The Complete Story
@Moonstone.mp4
@Moonstone.mp4 Жыл бұрын
By Sunil Raman and Rohit Agarwal
@leonhardeuler7647
@leonhardeuler7647 3 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits seems to be trying to widen *their* empire of Indian viewers. Not that I am complaining - we get some great history content.
@zachbonney7372
@zachbonney7372 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! So excited for this series! Definitely one of history's most defining moments.
@rajnair4678
@rajnair4678 3 жыл бұрын
A series on INDIA with a Liverpool FC reference! Already my most fav extra history episode 😍😍
@realhumphreyappleby
@realhumphreyappleby 3 жыл бұрын
Finally you cover Indian History. About time!
@femia4125
@femia4125 3 жыл бұрын
Omg best champions league ever. My mind was blown with the match
@Maharaja_of_Punjab
@Maharaja_of_Punjab 3 жыл бұрын
YES YES FINALLY INDIAN HISTORY WITH ITS OWN VIDEO
@yousefshahin2654
@yousefshahin2654 3 жыл бұрын
Always glad to see a new series
@In_Our_Timeline
@In_Our_Timeline 3 жыл бұрын
me to
@vasinlavs
@vasinlavs 3 ай бұрын
bro helped me more than my history teacher👏🙌🙌🙌
@robbiecotton6827
@robbiecotton6827 3 жыл бұрын
Well obviously one of the writers in this series is a Liverpool supporter and I very much approve. More history videos need references to the miracle in Istanbul ;)
@UditSingh
@UditSingh 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how long I've waited for this.
@89technical
@89technical 3 жыл бұрын
We're going to start the Conquest of India Series: The Introduction takes up a whole videos lol Guys you might be at this for the rest of your lives. I should know: I was there at the end.
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting this on my Birthday
@lordalphamax1188
@lordalphamax1188 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday to you
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordalphamax1188 thanks
@abhijaysarmah7418
@abhijaysarmah7418 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Wonders if my day can get worse Extra history: releases a video on indian history Me: I am shocked and my day is made
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 3 жыл бұрын
Is the podcast feed discontinued? Driving all night, the brilliant and clever history is a great asset.
@ace448
@ace448 3 жыл бұрын
Also when you have contradictory accounts, reasons or evidence for a historical event. “Truth” becomes fluid. Add in and imperfect picture and you come into paradox’s and contradictions. Europes dominance over the world, in the end comes down to a lot of luck. Seriously a conflict here lasting just a little longer, and empire not collapsing at the exact moment there. Could have drastically changed the world.
@yj9032
@yj9032 3 жыл бұрын
There is only 1 truth.
@im_not_emo5249
@im_not_emo5249 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this one for a long time, I love this channel
@dbilly121
@dbilly121 3 жыл бұрын
As an Englishman, do love to see the 2005 Liverpool triumph shown :P
@nishugoyal
@nishugoyal 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, there is a topic on youtube worth commenting. Looking forward to binge watch this.
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv
@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, this ought to be good.
@aaditya_69
@aaditya_69 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this series I have been waiting for years for you to make a series on this topic
@TheBespectacledN00b
@TheBespectacledN00b 3 жыл бұрын
And they have got British borders wrong again.
@billcipherproductions1789
@billcipherproductions1789 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. In 1903 yes, but in 1600, no.
@sionsmedia8249
@sionsmedia8249 3 жыл бұрын
@@billcipherproductions1789 Well they're talking about 1903 so yes, they're wrong.
@billcipherproductions1789
@billcipherproductions1789 3 жыл бұрын
@@sionsmedia8249 They showed the same map for 1600.
@demonslayer3482
@demonslayer3482 Жыл бұрын
As a Indian, the explanation is easy, we were rich technologically more advanced but, by this time we were already invaded by Mugals and on top of that British used divide and conquer techniques
@AdarshHari708
@AdarshHari708 3 жыл бұрын
LETS GOOO. A football reference in a video about India from Extra History. SIGN. ME. UP
@elhombredeoro955
@elhombredeoro955 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon
@Rvc546
@Rvc546 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video... How you gave the disclaimer that nothing is certain and every thing is nuanced and subtle to set the tone that its just a version of many versions.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
Wanna watch without ads and see exclusive content? Go to curiositystream.com/extracredits to get a full year of Curiosity Stream & Nebula for 26% off.
@Bricriu-gj9dd
@Bricriu-gj9dd 3 жыл бұрын
Read the title and thought this would be about Chandra Gupta. Now I'm super HYPED to learn about something I never learn about!
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