Conquest of India - The Company Raj - Extra History - Part 4

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Westminster Hall, February 13th, 1788. The House of Commons, The House of Lords, Members of the Royal Family, Foreign Dignitaries, historians, and socialites are packed into the Palace of Westminster but they aren't here for a monumental vote, or a declaration of war, or even a coronation. They're here for an impeachment trial! The defendant is Warren Hastings who until recently was the East India companies top man in Bengal who is accused of a litany of crimes.
How will the British Government's ruling in this trial change the course of history?
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Part Two - East India Companies - • Conquest of India - Ea...
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Part Four - The Company Raj - • Conquest of India - Th...
Part Five - The Empty Chair - • Conquest of India - Th...
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[@extrahistory]

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[@marcus4046]

I think someone doesnt like amazon.....I cant tell im trying to read between the lines here...

[@DanielGalimidi]

How much do we have to pay for you to get rid of that stupid armchair character?

[@Munthasir123]

I thought Bengals spoke Bengali?

[@ajaymalolan1497]

Correction, the marathas weren't the vassals of the mughals, the mughals were the vassals of the marathas.

[@bludemonoof4363]

Ok, so I wanna clear this up. They ruled us by dividing us

[@harrisonlee9585]

The British East India Company: The only historical entity referenced in both the Metal Gear Solid and Pirates of the Caribbean franchises

[@ryanred1525]

Wait really???????

[@eljanrimsa5843]

Isn't the Caribbean the WEST Indies?

[@benmurphyful]

@@eljanrimsa5843 they were in the Caribbean as well

[@benmurphyful]

What part of metal gear?

[@harrisonlee9585]

@@benmurphyfulAt least Phantom Pain, Peace Walker, and Revengeance

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

"The days of unfettered corruption were over." Now come the days of fettered corruption

[@eljanrimsa5843]

unfettered robbery

[@bobwish8851]

it's not corruption if the government says it's not see? we even wrote laws saying its ok

[@bobwish8851]

on special paper too with a person with a funny hat writing their name and everything

[@davidhinde3229]

@@eljanrimsa5843 A true underdog story more like. Britannia rules the waves!,🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@ur_local_nintendo_ds]

​@@davidhinde3229 did you come here to watch how your country was to our country

[@archsteel7]

India: "Finally, we're freed from the EIC." "Great" Britain: "I wouldn't say freed... More like; under new management."

[@maxdavis7722]

Why the quotations on “great”?

[@intelligentgamerofgoodgame4444]

@@maxdavis7722 bcoz that's what Britain think of itself

[@maxdavis7722]

@@intelligentgamerofgoodgame4444 doesn’t every country think good of themselves lol.

[@bingus8135]

@@maxdavis7722 They don't go around putting "Great" in their names

[@maxdavis7722]

@@bingus8135 surely you guys know why the great is in there right? There is a place in France called Britain so the island of britain is called “great” britain because it’s way bigger. In other words it’s called large britain. The great in this context doesn’t mean supreme or superior.

[@idubbzz7899]

I think there’s something you forgot to mention but was crucial to british rule in India. The British didn’t extract most of their wealth from rulers or even taxes, but from businesses. They would help turn local tax collectors (zamindars) into feudal lords, and use their fiefs to produce the raw material needed in British industrial revolution. They would then sell these raw goods at a price bellow the price of production, making huge profits both at home and in India. This also ensured that there was a huge class of extremely powerful and influential people (feudal lords, rajas, tax collectors) who were completely loyal to the British. This actually led to a de-industrialisation in India. Land, funds and people who used to produce manufactured goods before British raj were now all diverted into producing raw goods for britain. This would then a vast majority of people into serfs, sending India back into the Middle Ages

[@comstr]

So..Australia in the 21st Century.

[@Praisethesunson]

Well said

[@BluePieNinjaTV]

@@comstr and to think we used to make things too

[@BeaverChainsaw]

@CK Lim you're assuming that the british motive in India was to build up economic activity instead of extracting resources and wealth from the subcontinent. Indian textile industry was one of the largest and most prized industry in the world by the time the british took over. However indian cotton textiles were seen as a threat to Britain's domestic textile industry, so they created heavy import taxes of Indian textile while making imports of British textile into India free. Indian textiles couldn't compete with cheaper British goods and went into decline. Also there were many times in british rule of India where famine could've easily been avoided but british leadership didn't do anything. I wouldn't say britain was a benevolent ruler of india

[@AsbestosMuffins]

@@BeaverChainsaw and the last point wasn't even like an 18th century thing, the british deliberately caused massive famine in india during ww2 by increasing their mandatory exports of foodstuffs while the continent was experiencing a massive drought

[@tyrant-den884]

"The old era of corruption is at an end!" "Hooray, it's the English empire!" "AND A WHOLE NEW ERA OF CORRUPTION HAS BEGUN!" "oh no, it's the English empire."

[@bullet6140]

Me when the "English" Empire

[@Elite-fo4zy]

Not English “British “

[@tyrant-den884]

@@Elite-fo4zy you'd be shocked how much of that often didn't get a say in the matter.

[@battlez9577]

*British

[@KinpatsuJ]

the amazon part really took me off guard

[@ICountFrom0]

And yet....

[@macrossMX]

@@ICountFrom0 So true. I guess Amazon is the East India Company of America, or in this case, the West America Company (I don't think is has the same ring as EIC).

[@Valery0p5]

Also don't call what they are doing "going to space". They couldn't even get to orbit the earth, and for all intents and purposes that's what "space" meant since the beginning* The companies (really it's mostly one) who have done good for space exploration are different from those with space tourism as their main business model. *you could say Gagarin's flight was almost a full orbit, but both sides would get there soon thereafter, what's important is that escape velocity was reached.

[@Taygetea]

@@Valery0p5 And for that matter, the money Blue Origin spends does go back into the American economy.

[@Waydisturbed]

The Amazon jab was BS and not accurate

[@srajandikshit7590]

In their early days, East India Company allowed the local rituals and customs to be practised by the sepoys who were locals. This along with a steady high income was a reason company was able to employ so many sepoys. However, when the govt start to get involve; this started to diminish and mistreatment of sepoys increased.

[@mukhtarsyajaratun1025]

It's bcos of British supremacy, where the British government thought their custom, fashion and tradition we're better and elegant, they also think that British people are more superior class than their colonial subjects. While the company are more into business profit only, they don't mind what the Indians are doing as long as its not bringing problems or threat to the company, both colonialist didnt care much of their colonial subjects unless they were useful for something, but the Brits somewhat tried to assimilate their colonial subjects into British culture

[@smalltime0]

They also succeeded because most people (and local rulers) on the subcontinent hated the Mughals.

[@planteruines5619]

@@mukhtarsyajaratun1025 But only france can completely assimilate people to keep them even 8000 km away from paris

[@smarteasylearningalmanejaz6204]

100th like

[@druid_zephyrus]

"This is a paradox".. Me: "no, this is..." gestures to two pet ducks

[@syro33]

"No this is..." Gestures to two boat docks.

[@woestewouter96]

"No, this is..." Gestures to two Dr. Martens boots

[@Cyssane]

Yep. Just like heaven is a couple of cubes with patterns of little dots on them.

[@sadaasdafa8635]

Ducking quackers?

[@ScabiousGarde]

Feels a little word that the armchair only ever asks helpful (just with an annoying tone) questions rather than actually posing any misconceptions. Not a bad idea, but the execution is a little odd, like they don't actually want to engage with the bad history out there. Which would be fine and dandy, but then, why the chair? All good faith criticisms, it's important to think critically even if you like something/someone

[@ICountFrom0]

Dealing with the worst of the worst of bad ideas would take entire episodes and having those words come out of the chair would insult people who were not even close to that bad. Instead they just skim the top of chairs in the audiance, and hopefully bring them around.

[@pepsiman4065]

The Chair just isn’t necessary, it’s a waste of the artist’s time. Don’t get me wrong,I love this channel and this series, but the chair just feels contrived and out of place, personally I don’t think that they have to try new things or spice up the story in any way, people watch these videos to learn and enjoy learning about topics that they probably already like, all in all, channel: good, Chair: Unnecessary

[@trireme5276]

Armchair had a character development in just 4 episodes

[@TheOsu22]

@@pepsiman4065 it's an attempt at humor, but doesn't work at all, mainly because it's so ham fisted and forced.

[@Shinzon23]

You mean "Feels a little WEIRD",yes?

[@sircoloniser5454]

The British east India company, perhaps the single most odd and accidental empire in history Also 22nd like fun

[@user-ly9oe9vs5d]

That we had in the nineties and was not like that. P.s. And not only in the nineties.

[@civilengineer3349]

They never became an empire. They were a private company that violently took, from the Mughal Emperor, the right to collect coin from landlords.

[@sztypettto]

They were a MegaCorp, similar to the Dutch East India Company. MegaCorps come off as state within a state.

[@ecurewitz]

proof that a nation should never be run like a business

[@Historyfrek4ever]

@@ecurewitz Or a company should never run a country.

[@megabyte01]

"but what do I know? I'm just a cartoon on the internet!" That's pure gold!

[@ecurewitz]

hey, the more things chnge, the more they stay the same

[@ICountFrom0]

I KNOW, so good.

[@ShadySheev]

EC: *Makes Star Wars reference* Also EC: "But successful empires are more insidious than that." I see what you did there, little rascals!

[@libshastra]

"It's going to get much worse". Ya Company rule was just the beginning, the British Raj was a much worse entity. In the later half of the Raj, the imperial civil services were sympathetic to the misery dealt by the Raj, however the racism and cruelty of London made things worse and London accelerated to strip every Indian's sense of dignity and humanity. You can see this in the desperate correspondences for relief from Delhi, begging for approval and help to a deaf London. Bengal famine is a famous one but there was plenty more famines, plagues and epidemics. My great grandparents were survivors of one such event. Edit: Top level Imperial Civil Services administrators were middle-class Englishmen. They were the ones who sent correspondences to London begging for authorization (to invoke acts, budgets etc.) and relief.

[@Praisethesunson]

The British exploitation of India caused the worst famines in human history.

[@sionsmedia8249]

@@Praisethesunson The Great Leap Forward in China definitely killed more people through famine, up to 50 million people.

[@j.chiari4222]

When you say Raj, do you mean the company's rule, or British direct rule post that revolt?

[@libshastra]

@@j.chiari4222 Yes. Typically British rule is spilt into Company rule where India was treated as a company asset belonging to the East India Company and British Raj, when the British Parliament established Govt. of India and the colonial administration.

[@blugaledoh2669]

Bengal famine occurred during WW2 so that could explain their non action.

[@lucasmctavish9289]

Kidna feel the armchair gag kidna detracts from everything, and just kidna messes with the experience. Awesome series just… no armchair please.

[@xJavelin1]

Gotta agree. An occasional Walpole appearance as an inside joke is great. This is going a bit far

[@HickPimp]

Agreed, more Walpole. The chair should get the boot

[@YourFunkiness]

Hear, hear!

[@agilitas8859]

This. So much this.

[@wollebay]

Totally agree.

[@rivas3889]

The whole chronology of events from the moment the eic started behaving like a local government reminds me a lot of the Spanish conquistadors in South America (specifically, Francisco Pizarro, with his conquest being done basically in the middle of a civil war) one has to wonder how many times things repeat themselves.

[@Padtedesco]

It can be said that it controls South America destiny to this day. Asks Colombia, Bolivia, Mexico, Argentina or Brazil for that matter....

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

Man the Amazon part hit home, speaking as a former employee

[@geesixnine]

You can blame inflation of the currency in US for that. I.e. Stimuli checks

[@180decibel]

FAX THO, honestly made me spitout my beer... THROUGH MY NOSE😂

[@seanphelps4057]

@@geesixnine No, not really, you can't. Amazon profits off the backs of workers and has them work terrible conditions for the most basic of wages for a company that makes as much profit as they do.

[@LouissimoX]

This needs more upvotes

[@civilengineer3349]

@@geesixnine Amazon has been paying low wages before the gov gave stimulus. An American socialist politician named Bernie Sanders had to force Amazon to pay workers more in one region.

[@charlesbennett7484]

I've gotta say, I'm loving these "Conquest of India" videos. All these paradoxes! I can't even begin to guess what will happen next.

[@AtheistPirate]

I can only imagine what the Hastings impeachment hearings--quite a spectacle even then--would've been like in today's round-the-clock, up-to-the-minute media climate.

[@DragoSonicMile]

"There is no happily ever after. Happy times, sure. But the next day, life moves on." ~paraphrasing _Not Your Enemy_

[@mrblack5368]

Yes thank you Extra Credits I myself am an Indian 🇮🇳 and am surprised by the accuracy of this series

[@Ritvik-xs3yh]

Accuracy.. LOL The Maps, The events, The timelines are all mixed up.

[@gursimarsingh5505]

@@Ritvik-xs3yh yep

[@yj9032]

They did not praise Shivaji maharaja. They must be sponsored by Christians and communists.

[@tamberlame27]

Uh no, please don't believe the accuracy

[@abhinavjha3082]

They're trying to actually explain stuff instead of presenting the Brits as absolutely evil. How unpatriotic to India. Nice to see Indians getting angry 🤣🤣

[@trexyroar]

“Especially with the Scots and Irish looking to overthrow English rule” Good to see nothings changed

[@sanhcman666]

I say we should help irish and scotlands to break off from those pirates.

[@maxdavis7722]

@@sanhcman666 lol I hope this is a joke.

[@seancampbell6292]

Yer god damn right

[@fyrdman2185]

I dunno why he added Scots there, when the Scots themselves begged to be in the Union after their own failed attempt at colonisation.

[@str2010]

@@sanhcman666 sort out a plan to deal with the negative ramifications of separation and then talk. Also, the Irish already have their own state

[@viking8796]

Divide and conquer. Except the divisions already kind of existed without external forces doing any dividing.

[@eyeofthepyramid2596]

Rural locals in India didn't even know who their actual rulers are.

[@DogseatDogs]

It's kinda funny how Indians and everyone else acted like only the British did the brutal exploitation when the local nobility and conflicting tribes also engaged and aided in the same atrocities.

[@tribblier]

@@DogseatDogs in modern history only the winners are vilified

[@indianinja420]

@@tribblier Yeah man you're right, the British were absolutely blameless and deserve none of the ire they get from Indians today... :/

[@indianinja420]

@@DogseatDogs So British and other Europeans DIDN'T brutally exploit Indian labor and resources

[@jrm78]

18th Century Indians: With the EIC out of power things can't get any worse. British Government: Hold my gin and tonic...

[@BridgetOfHestia]

Love that you guys got the British flag right for the time (no Irish saltire)!

[@brianhall4182]

...now I know what nabob means! I always wondered what that meant from the Genie's song in Aladdin.

[@JonPITBZN]

I always wondered from Spiro fucking Agnew.

[@Zimisce85]

I am sure the Genie collected plenty of taxes after Aladdin became Sultan.

[@UncleLumbago1899]

EIC: Ok so you're gonna use grease from cattle and pigs Sepoys: THIS MEANS WAR!!!!!!

[@maxdavis7722]

Did they actually use the grease or was it a rumour? I have heard people say different things.

[@matthewle6344]

Much better job this time with less commentary from the armchair. Getting much more historical content than some side tracked commentary this time.

[@neverlandhunter6988]

Agreed. Strawchair is not at all interesting to watch or helpful to the commentary.

[@janmelantu7490]

Hastings: even a “good” imperialist (respects local culture and language) is still an imperialist

[@Praisethesunson]

Being a "good" imperialist is already setting the bar so low it's basically buried.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

Yeah, I mean, it's not like ruling over people in the style of the Mughal Empire is _nice._ The local flavour of despotism is still despotism.

[@blugaledoh2669]

@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs Yeah but that just how the world work at the time.

[@aaronmiller4811]

Imperialism is better then some other systems

[@Praisethesunson]

@@aaronmiller4811 That's setting the bar so low it's a limbo bar in hell.

[@LoudRevised]

The Thumbnail reminds me of the “Think Mark!” scene in Invincible.

[@arutka2000]

Now all I can imagine is replacing Nolan and Mark with Elizabeth II and Charles.

[@CG-yq2xy]

Wow, the EIC surely knew how to siphon out the wealth from a whole continent into one country. Glad that no company did that this side of the pond. The United Fruit Company: _Sweats nervously_

[@balargus319]

Virgin Guatamala Government Chad Fruit Vendor.

[@Fordo007]

The bananas must flow.

[@mikeramirez2356]

no American East India Company? no problem! draft up the United Fruit charter & away we goooo! lel

[@LikeTheBuffalo]

"If this is a consulate ship _where is the _*_ambassador?!_* "

[@manojvukkem2318]

So basically the EIC created a cyberpunk city 200 years before the actual game was invented.

[@Shinzon23]

If you are referring to Kowloon walled city, you'll be pleased to learn that pretty much everyone who was doing cyberpunk or something like cyberpunk and wanted to do a dystopian city looked to there for things to make it seem believable...

[@jamespaddock736]

I love that line after Darth Vader’s scene, “It’s more insidious than that” cause indirect rule is literally what Darth Sidious used to accomplish his goals.

[@piratejack6577]

Hastings be like:When I was a lad I served a term As office boy to an Attorney's firm. I cleaned the windows and I swept the floor, And I polished up the handle of the big front door. (He polished up the handle of the big front door.) I polished up that handle so carefully That now I am the Ruler of the Queen's Navy! (He polished up that handle so carefullee, That now he is the ruler of the Queen's Navee!) As office boy I made such a mark That they gave me the post of a junior clerk. I served the writs with a smile so bland, And I copied all the letters in a big round hand. (He copied all the letters in a big round hand.) I copied all the letters in a hand so free, That now I am the Ruler of the Queen's Navee! (He copied all the letters in a hand so free, That now he is the Ruler of the Queen's Navee!) In serving writs I made such a name That an articled clerk I soon became; I wore clean collars and a brand-new suit For the passed examination at the Institute. (For the passed examination at the Institute.) That passed examination did so well for me, That now I am the Ruler of the EIC! (That passed examination did so well for he, That now he is the Ruler of the EIC!)

[@alexr6705]

Where’s this from?

[@madhurawat155]

Where's this from!

[@MultiSciGeek]

3:40 Very beautiful nuance right there! This even bugs me today, when, for example, Americans say stuff like "Why don't Afghans just fight for their homeland." Heck even India with it's diversity and so much of rich complicated history, is still not a fully unified nation even today.

[@DaBaSoftware]

The way you all present your research is SO responsible I get the shakes out of excitement. This is one of my favorite channels on KZbin of all time.

[@nikwalker8932]

What an amazing video. Great job and thank you.

[@jaswanthpindiboina]

On 1757 nawab of Bengal along with an army of 55,000 attacked British on the banks of hooghly River called plassy to punish British for not paying taxes properly. On the other hand warran hastings with an army of 2500 sepoys and with his cunning strategies bribed the officers of the nawabs army and turned the nawab army against him. Making a way for British raj for next 200 years

[@jeanbonnefoy1377]

7:20 when we discover that the Amazon might have flowed through India (sort of)😂👍

[@iang257]

The cartoon on the internet has let my learn how the British took over India and takes a jab at Amazon. Tis funny

[@survivingwithM]

Great video!!!! Loved relearning about Warren Hastings!

[@quinnreverance611]

I LOVE INDIAN HISTORY. pls keep them coming

[@Numba003]

The idea of transnational corporations functioning as their own pseudo-government entities is one of those tropes in literature that seems very possible when you look at historical companies like the EIC. Thank you for another informative episode. Stay well out there, and God bless you friends! :)

[@Weird_Interest]

I love your content!!!

[@theoutlook55]

I'm so happy to learn about this.

[@bharadwaajakanakadandi892]

This series is definitely quite true in it's contents. Some of it's contents like the impeachment trial, that the EIC was originally made the Nawabs of Bengal, etc. are actually not taught in schools back here in India.( I do ask forgiveness if I'm not true.) But all in all, this is turning out to be a great series indeed.

[@leilabeyyoudh9812]

I love this show so much, I wish someone would do the same with Moroccan history, I teach at an English speaking school and non-Moroccans struggle to find any sources in English on our history. Even the French and Spanish stuff is limited and very biased.

[@amfarrell42]

The Metatron or Home Team History would probably know people you could reach out to.

[@HA11EYS_COM3T]

it's kinda crazy how I can go immediately from what makes a good video game to the Conquest of India while staying in a single channel

[@jibran_r7]

Loving this channel

[@scout_main1657]

It's amazing how so many weird events could have or did cause super big events in history.

[@Monotremewisdom]

I like the amazon parallels, helpful and makes good points to modern audiences. Certainly helped my ignorant self learn, thanks :)

[@tonysladky8925]

I think Hastings was covered in... Oh my God, is the "The Most Evil Company in History" two part episode of Behind the Bastards going to get namedropped in Lies? That's an EH/podcast crossover I would love to see even more than when Mike Duncan got his shoutout in the Haitian Revolution Lies.

[@bowsans]

This is some helpful information 👍

[@samdumaquis2033]

Great stuff

[@citationneeded5196]

The Anezia bash was amazing! Go mini Matt!

[@Cherry-sg4zg]

Nice video , thanks you

[@zerubiszeus4687]

So it wasn't even "conquest" it was more like a bunch of deals and fights for control and politics. I'm loving this

[@Kuudere-Kun]

An important piece of context left out of the Warren Hasting chapter of this saga is how his time in charge of India corresponded to virtually the entire history of the American Revolution. France starting a fight with Brittan in India was actually part of their alliance with US, tying Brittan up elsewhere to limit reinforcements they could send to Cornwallis. Also it's interesting how Hastings philosophy of ruling India they way were used to bein ruled follows the teachings of Machiavelli in The Prince, specifically the part where he discusses the Successors of Alexander.

[@GameyRaccoon]

Isn't kun the honorific for males?

[@Kuudere-Kun]

@@GameyRaccoon No, neither the Kun or Chan Honorifics are inherently gendered, that's just a common misconception some western Anime fans have.

[@blazingfrypan415]

4:06 super casually explaining purpose of the prequels existence lol

[@wetcanoedogs]

for a deep look into this i would suggest "the anarchy" by William Dalrymple. "the east india company,corporate violence and the pillage of an empire"

[@fortunepuppet6411]

This channel is better then any other history channel.

[@ronaanwer7161]

"What a fine and majestic subcontinental region you have here, would be a pity if something were to happen to it, hmmm" PURE GOLD

[@PHRCpvh]

So, in a nutshell, the EIC was pretty much like the Pretorian Guard, but with way more services and customers.

[@th3grav3mak3rgaming8]

7:18 "those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. those who do are doomed to watch"

[@cassandranugent2443]

I am living for the casual Amazon drag! You go animated history dude!

[@WalkorBikeinCities]

Wonderful...sound and good view.~!!

[@davidtownsend6092]

Fun fact. The Hastings family should be ruling Britain now. Allegedly.

[@merchantofmogadishu3579]

How

[@ecurewitz]

well, the famly that won a battle near Hastings is most certainly ruling Britain now

[@davidtownsend6092]

@@ecurewitz yea but by that logic so is the family that lost. Since henry 1st wife was a defendant of Edmund ironside. Kid of Aethelred the unready

[@davidtownsend6092]

There for his grandson Henry 2nd is as well. But no Eddy 4 is illilegit. The right king is a decendant of Hastings and lives in Australia.

[@robertbemis9800]

This helps me understand the honor universe books

[@tylerboyce4081]

7:12 Preach, Cartoon Matt!

[@tankofnova9022]

7:13 I couldn't help but laugh at this. Not because it's funny, but because it is a sad truth.

[@PepperoniMilkshake]

That "not so subtle" jab at Jeff

[@yashmeetsharma2627]

This really helped me in my studies thanks

[@camilogonzalez5576]

That's THE WRONG MEME!!! :Continues watching furiously:

[@christiandilday7543]

Nice

[@COKIBALL]

5:46 >At the age of 17 >Already bald

[@ComanderSazabi2000]

The perfect villain origin story

[@muneebnajam3744]

for us subcontinentals who have been studying this again and again ,… and again since class 6 this is finally seeming interesting

[@jazzzzzz5626]

Imagine your country getting taking over by a company than the government itself

[@prakharchaudhary9797]

EIC ruled india until the revolt/sepoy mutiny of 1857

[@jazzzzzz5626]

@@prakharchaudhary9797 Jesus that’s a long time

[@civilengineer3349]

@@jazzzzzz5626 yeah quite literally about a hundred years. The many famines altogether killed 33 million people and the wars and atrocities added many more bodies on the mountains of corpses. Ofcourse, most of this was the fault of Indian collaborators. The Brits were just paying them.

[@BruceWayne-wu4xn]

I would like to know the ragas set you used for these episodes on India. I wouldn't mind blasting that in my house

[@eagleofceaser6140]

Edmund Burke "the so called father of modern conservationism" ?? If Extra Credits doesn't consider Burke to be the Father of modern conservatism who is Pitt, Peel or Disaeli?

[@lukeholte3911]

Exactly

[@yj9032]

British audience: *getting angry because there is not enough atrocity denial* Indian Audience: * getting angry because there is not enough atrocity of omission and inadequate deification of Hindu rulers*

[@krityaan]

@@yj9032 Sir this is a Wendy's

[@xsaber5439]

Love the callout. Something has to make me smile every single episode.

[@markhargreaves1069]

So they made native people think they were indirectly ruling them when they were pretty much ruling themselves this whole time just as divided states? Hmmm that's rather clever.

[@robbiegarber898]

1:00 Hmmm... Wonder what novel the "So you haven't read" series is covering next...

[@ramnathpaip]

so clear and precise... this even not thought in Indian history classes, which is still heavily influenced by the British...

[@christopheredwards8219]

7:10 proves that history rhymes

[@mjbull5156]

"The British East India Company behaved like a mafia... " You mean they behaved like a government. The way they gained power is also comparable to what Athens did with the Delian League and the Roman Republic did in gained ING territory outside of Rome's immediate area. Their conquests were almost always in the name of protecting a "Friend of Rome". It fits in with the "stationary bandit" theory of how governments come to br.

[@madhurawat155]

Except that Romans were not that bad. Once the war ends, they usually treated people in a relatively better way, unlike the British. They usually respected the local culture, unlike the British. Plus they also allowed the locals to become Roman citizens (mostly through military service) and several of them became equestrians (the second highest class of Rome, right below the senators). Same can't be said for the British though.

[@mushfiqurrahman1107]

Sooo.... When the famine of 1770 struck Bengal under EIC, the British government was *"concerned"* . Ironic how the British government itself later caused the Bengal famine of 1943.

[@T0T4LG4MER5]

I mean the Japanese invasion of Burma combined with scorched Earth tactics and severe weather conditions didn’t exactly help

[@MashZ]

Actually the British government was concerned because while the EIC employees were funneling astronomical wealth to their family, EIC fell in a huge loss due to war costs and few years of low revenue due to famine and depopulation. So the British government had to bail out the company. They used this chance to assert themselves into the company's affairs in India

[@civilengineer3349]

There were many deadly famines in India during company rule. There would be a famine called the "Skull famine" which killed between 10 million to 13 million people. Just goes to show how horrid capitalism can be until democracy and socialism (like public food aid and other welfare state benefits) were mixed into society

[@fathallah1932]

I cant wait for the chair to be gone

[@alex_zetsu]

Did we skip a step? Last episode the EIC went from one of many foreign trading powers begging the Mughals to let them trade to one of their tax collectors, specifically in the Bengal region. Ok, that's certainly a step up. But there were many such Indian local rulers who ere in this position in other regions of India, so how did the EIC end up getting stronger than the Mughal government? None of the local Indian rulers who could collect taxes had enough money to pull what the EIC did, so I don't get how they pulled this mafia trick you just described in this episode unless they ran into some windfall that was skipped.

[@civilengineer3349]

My guess is that the EIC demanded more in tax from local landlords who then demanded more in rent which forced local commoners to invest in more lucrative cash crops, raising the price of food and causing many famines. This was opposed to local Kingdoms who demanded much less in tax from the local landlords

[@mayukhmitra5819]

The Muhhal Goverment at the time was a vassal of the Marathas. Who wasn't the most powerful . EOC had to defeat them in 3 separate wars to get to this step.

[@Anurag-xe2jp]

There were parallel wars going on. Mughal empire had become very weakened after Aurangzeb. Maratha empire and Sikh empire got much stronger . There were also constant invasions from Afghans .Maratha empire got weakened after the war with Afghans (where about 100k Marathas got killed) and eventually EIC became the prime power after defeating weakened marathas in in the maratha anglo wars and became the primary power in Indian sub continent. Decades later ,they defeated sikhs too who had became fragmented.

[@deftheocelot9125]

Individually they couldn't But the EIC effectively unified their power.

[@mayukhmitra5819]

@@Anurag-xe2jp This. This is the Perfect Explanation.

[@ur_local_nintendo_ds]

India: finnally, im free from the eic! Britan: i wouldnt say free, more like under new management

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Britain is Dwight getting surprised by Angela when he turns to look, for the case of the British, surprised by India.

[@splay7580]

I loath the chair.

[@devashishbhave7471]

Can't wait for the 1857 episode!

[@Ponja__]

That dig against Blue Origin completely ignores the fact that the money isn't being loaded into rockets and shipped into space, but spent on American scientists, engineers, and workers to design and produce rockets in the U.S; i.e. it's like getting mad at a country for building boats in its own shipyards. On the other hand, that dig against Amazon's treatment of workers? Fully justified.

[@Kar-fe7hi]

5:25 that line explain a lot of thing

[@user-yf4jx6te2b]

Armchair is starting to go from a funny gag to detracting from the experience.

[@addisonwelsh]

Modern Extra Credits in a nutshell: too many jokes and gags.

[@reidnutter1476]

I hate that chair an irrational amount.

[@Artur_M.]

I did not expect a reference to Dickens' _A Christmas Carol_ in this series but ok.

[@DavidRach2]

Since it's a Bones day! here is a comment to help with that algorithm. Loving this series!

[@qinntt]

Omg that tictoc trend has spread FAR

[@IcecreamMcGuy]

I like your pfp