Consciousness, UFOs & Non-Human Intelligence | Bernardo Kastrup

[@deb4610]

Yay, Bernardo is back!!

[@thymeparzival]

I love the metaphor about the bright light from sun obscuring the subtle light from the stars in the sky similar to the way that the light of high level cognitive awareness obscures the subtler layers of subconscious. Bernard calls those layers “rooms in the palace of the mind”👌🏼 Brilliant

[@clli9458]

Is this why the stars twinkle

[@philipambler3825]

@@thymeparzival it's so simple & so full of grandeur like day to the immense mystery of night...

[@abrahambrookes1927]

LOL "I'm giving physical reality the side eye" is my new favourite quote of the phenomenon

[@woundedsoulhealer2652]

@@abrahambrookes1927 Love this 👏🙌🤣😂💣🧨🪬🔥

[@woundedsoulhealer2652]

Love it 💣🔥🧨👏👏🙌🤣

[@HugeHeart13]

😂😂😂

[@erlaubtundvertraut7990]

:D

[@denniswinters3096]

I've been doing that most of my life !

[@msnanise]

I did a lot of nodding between minute 26 and 27 where you explain what that 'in between' mental state feels like. Earlier in my meditative practice I also felt like I could call it 'falling asleep' but over time you start to realise that you're not asleep, but your not awake either and it really does feel like another 'mode' of consciousness. So cool to hear you describe it so well!

[@robbyyoung84]

@msnanise same. I know we are not suppose to have it as a goal (from what I am told), but it's a good road sign for me. Is that wrong too??

[@-RXB-]

Perhaps you're describing a sort of trance or hypnotic state. If what you mean is the sensation of going in and out of consciousness, or sort of skipping forward in time, with brief sections that feel blank. This can happen when listening to hypnotic music, but I've also experienced it during meditation.

[@clli9458]

yeah, the inertial observer, Like forgetting youre alive

[@clli9458]

being high b like

[@11chancer]

How can we not have it as our goal. When it feels so nice and peaceful. To forget all your worries and hurries. To finally get "there" after working to quiet our thoughts and breathing, to be connected with....God, the All, the Universe, something so much deeper.

[@y5mgisi]

Bernardo on third eye is what I need.

[@JohnDoeBand1]

Very excited! Been following these three topics so much recently and I LOOVE Bernardo's mind

[@davetrevino4670]

Amazing guest! Thank you for having Bernardo. I truly believe that the uap community needs to have more discussions like these. I would also love to hear long time meditators/contemplatives takes on the uap phenomenon. Very interesting.

[@THIRDEYEDROPS]

Thanks for the suggestion! I agree, we definitely need more of that

[@bretta7057]

I can never get enough Bernardo. The dude has an incredible amount of interviews and I eagerly listen to each new one I find. And it’s probably because I really like this channel and listen regularly, but Michael is my favorite host for him to riff with

[@greengoblin9567]

he has beef with Chris Langan. 😂😂😂😂

[@bavingeter423]

@@greengoblin9567 tbh I love Chris langan and Bernardo, for different reasons lol

[@chowlissy]

Bernado produces videos faster than I can get to watch them, he is fantastic.

[@CrazyLinguiniLegs]

@@greengoblin9567 with all due respect, Chris Langan is an imposter and a blowhard. He pretends to have a coherent theory of everything, but he offers no mathematical proofs or empirical observations to back up his theory. It amounts to little more than metaphysical speculation and semantic games. I don’t know why people who are really in the religious game continue to try so hard to play the rationality/scientific game. They should just say, “This is what I believe because I _feel_ it is right.” And leave it at that.

[@hook-x6f]

Dimensions may be dreams experienced within other dreams. Worlds within worlds.

[@TheCoyotemonster]

I have a practice (on KZbin) I have found extraordinarily beneficial, using the power of my mind. Usually, from our perspective, we don't see the ways we change the world. If we do, we are unsatisfied because we cannot win the lottery or create world peace, but sometimes we can see the motion our perspectives generate and it looks mighty different from our desires, but there it is.

[@Nothingman88]

35:43 The power of thought AND emotion when combined, may actually have a larger impact on the external reality then you may think, Bernardo. However, just because you may not want war, there are obviously people and groups of people that do. I hypothesize that it is the overall energy, conscious and unconscious that creates this consensus reality. And, ha, do you really believe that everyone is super happy inside? I mean, how many people are on antidepressants? Much of this perceived reality comes down to unconscious programming (I do see an 'awakening' happening [at least within myself], and things are becoming more conscious). Edit: Whether attempting to manifest something for yourself or the greater collective is seen as good or bad, is one thing. But let us not pretend that we (including you) are not doing this on some level, e.g., wanting to manifest a new book that you author. Love you

[@yogamac]

I’m talking with a friend on the phone and we were just talking about taking a trip into the darkness. I come here to find the interview and low-n-behold Bernardo Kastrup, the analytical idealist himself. I bring gratitude and appreciation. Can’t wait to experience this mind meld.

[@thetreeoflife6018]

I think Bernardo thinks at a level of genius. I agree that nature isn’t capable of Metacognition , but there is no way to know if the Cosmos is capable of Meta cognition . If you enlarge your own metacognition it’s not hard to see that we are on a very low rung of consciousness , we can’t see higher than one or two rungs above us . Thanks for the stimulating content , I suspect that in years to come Bernardo will have a different and higher view ❤️

[@nix811318]

My nephew had experienced Remote Viewing. He was able to see a place that he has never seen before. And was verified by his girlfriend. The place he had seen was his girlfriend 's place of work that he had not been to. My nephew was able to see the size of the room, the color of his girlfriend's co worker's sweater. And right after the experience, he called her. She and her co workers actually were just talking about having goose bumps and told each other that it felt like someone else is in the room. That is remote viewing in a nutshell💯 BTW, this happened to my nephew after a graveyard shift he had from the night before, he woke up after a few hours of sleep, still tired and laid back down. So, he is in between Sleep state and Awake.. that sweet spot they call Theta Waves

[@stephengee4182]

@@nix811318 The Alexandria Project. Prior to this Alexandria Project, Stephan Schwartz worked as special assistant to the chief of naval operations using remote viewing techniques to search for soviet submarines during the cold war (I believe). kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2G0i4etpah0fNE

[@vanilakai]

bullshit

[@eeeemmteeee]

The usa, russia, and slovaks have done these experiments with repetitive success. The further away however, the more difficult to hold onto sanity from the chaos of the void/source.

[@stephengee4182]

@@vanilakai Look up KZbin videos on: "Alexandria Project Stephan Schwartz" for the most extraordinary remote viewing project. Prior to this Alexandria Project, Stephan Schwartz worked as special assistant to the chief of naval operations using remote viewing techniques to search for soviet submarines during the cold war (I believe).

[@stephengee4182]

@@nix811318 Look up KZbin videos on: "Alexandria Project Stephan Schwartz" for the most extraordinary remote viewing project. Prior to this Alexandria Project, Stephan Schwartz worked as special assistant to the chief of naval operations using remote viewing techniques to search for soviet submarines during the cold war (I believe).

[@LioBilly]

Hey. Your video editing skills are getting insanely good. I’ve noticed the growth 🩵

[@Phil_Romi]

That's amazing. You're actually the one who introduced me to Kastrup, I think. And back then I didn't comprehend how fricking brilliant and impressive the dude is like I do now, having listened to him for a little while at this point. I was literally just watching him yesterday with Rupert Spira and I had the thought that it would be awesome if he was back on your show and here you are, literally the day after, delivering the goods. I call those lowkey manifestations ✨️

[@RIPPeanut]

your guests are consistently getting more fire . keep it up dude . I need a dictionary when i listen to your show . I love your unique fresh vocabulary

[@RIPPeanut]

ohhh shit you’ve had him before . nevermind sounds like you’ve been on a heater for a while brother

[@buffiyoung2138]

Lol, I make flash cards for each new word I hear! It’s a lot of work, but this podcast is worth it!

[@davidthomas3349]

Enjoyed it very much. I wished he had said more about his concerns about what is happening in the matter of UFOs

[@bruceclark6520]

I’ve only begun watching this interview; the barriers to understanding may be linguistic in nature. I had to draw a dichotomy between “consciousness” and “awareness”. Being new at this, I’m meditating on “awareness as meta conscious”, or something; the brain science of the prefrontal cortex covers that aspect which governs behavioral anomalies of those with brain damage losing certain moral and ethical guardrails vs the “normal brain”. When we say “the lights are on, but no one’s home”, we’re speaking of consciousness without awareness. These can be as simple as the distinction between the curious and the incurious. But while we cannot lay a rule on the subconscious, we can observe the collective consciousness quite easily. This is fascinating stuff, and I hope I learn something here today…

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

Could listen to Bernardo Kastrup all day ! Awesome! Great insights and interview Michael.

[@sparkymarc62]

This is the kind of lowest common denominator discussion that I truly enjoy

[@TheArtmartin32]

For the past 1 year + I started meditating for many reasons, I’ve been reading and listening to everything that would explain my experiences that I’ve had seen I was a kid, yes out of body and controlling dreams and bad dreams since being a kid, can’t get any one or a source to point me to the right place to explain it

[@CosmicJhana444]

I love Kastrup’s explanation of morals as a realization vs construct of human cognition.

[@doloresfarr7633]

Through meditation and discipline, you can reach this ream , usually it’s about yourself what you are viewing and someone close to you. ❤

[@itslightanddark]

Bernardo is my fav. I hope to thank him someday for this way of languaging what is available to be perceived.

[@ninjuhdelic]

Amazing, you landed a phenomenal speaker

[@mechannel7046]

8:00 if we recognize the world as it is, we would be overwhelmed by the amount of info 8:50 naive realism. 9:40 reality is a result of measurement 11:00 physicalists jujitsu: super determinism, many worlds 13:00 fathers of physicalism got their inspirations "unscientifically": Descartes dreams, Parmenides, father of logic 16:00 if not scientific menthod, then what? SM indirect, through the mediation of perception. Still very powerful. 17:25 The other method is introspection, not always reliable. Schopenhuarer and Eastern methods 18:50 platonism, gnosis 21:40 mind works with symbols 28:30 see but not discern stars at noon

[@zigzagzwag]

i love how much you love the word panoply Michael. I know you'd use it in every conversation if you could

[@howardhavardramberg333]

Finally back! 🙏

[@y5mgisi]

1:36:14 I've had this many times. It's called false awakening. Sometimes it goes in a loop and gets very frustrating. You get three minutes into being awake, only to realize you're actually still sleeping. Then you wake up and three minutes later realize this is also still a dream! Sometimes it takes up to 10 times of false awakening to get to actually waking up in real life. It's pretty trippy waking up and getting out of bed several times in a row and each time being convinced at the onset that this time you're actually awake, only to then realize you're still dreaming.

[@Idrawfyyyuhh]

Same

[@ayoubzahiri1918]

Never experienced that, what i keep experiencing is me feeling like flying in an exponential way , i had that many times, once i was flying into a neon red cubes that kept moving and rotating in a mechanical way, once again i was flying and i heard a demonic sound laughing in a very slow way, at first it sounded like gibberish then Turned to slow laughing( its a different word than laugh but ye im bad at english)

[@Yellowbrickroadrash]

Omg tytyty for bringing in BERNARDO again!! And to finally hear him give a nod to Hoffman is totally ❤❤❤. What a dream to be able to interview him. Kudos to you! You provide a portal to such deep wisdom. Thank you for your work, Michael.

[@CALCANEUS3535]

Hoffman a BK are personal friends.

[@breadcrumbtv]

Awesome 🙌

[@user-lu9hq6jv4v]

Thank you, for your discussion!

[@333llll]

What a treat 🙌

[@aljosacebokli]

Oh wow who did you manage to get now, amazing, this will be amazing.

[@r34ct4]

Yeah I'm excited for this

[@THIRDEYEDROPS]

Hope you dig it. We’ve got a few previous episode together too

[@Midnightmidway]

Bernardo is great, I really enjoy his insights. Bright guy

[@vanilla_abstract]

One of my favorite guests. *algorithmic tickle* 👁🙏👁

[@aljosacebokli]

Amazing brain tickle session this was

[@honey3762]

Exciting!

[@NateFrederick]

I’m so excited about this one!

[@iny0urbrain]

I think I was introduced to Bernardo's work through your show. Thanks for the brain tickles you two.

[@THIRDEYEDROPS]

Love that! Thanks for hanging out and being a part of the wonder lodge!

[@brentruiz842]

Skip to 4:30 for the start of the podcast

[@troygoss6400]

Much gratitude for your channel 🙏 All one has to do to experience reality as it is to take a heroic dose of an enthogen. It takes courage, but it is the fastest way.

[@youtubecanal]

Great guest!

[@StephenPalmer-o8x]

phenemonology was the best college class i ever took at least have a notion of what the arugument is

[@fpalisse]

I've had an outer body experience and reality is exactly how it is in real life. It's not like a dream or psychedelic trip. I didn't have the buzzing sound you talk about but as soon as I realised I was out of my body I got scared and I zipped back into my body. Then I was trapped in my body not sure how long. I wanted to scream but couldn't. Probably only a few seconds.

[@Fleks47]

❤ nice ty.

[@emoke150]

Very interesting interview. Just a thought on OBEs. You can have endless discussions about theoritics of the nature of god and reality and the universe like you just had. Interesting. But it's like discussing eating pasta without never eating it. OBEs are the simple way to experience the nature of reality. Not just theorizing about it. So I encourage you to keep going and exploring!

[@4D2M0T]

I'm looking forward to this 😊

[@THIRDEYEDROPS]

Hope you dig it!

[@Graybeard_]

We are here to experience We shouldn't take others or ourselves too seriously We should try our best and let go of the rest

[@paulmint1858]

Or maybe for the universe to experience through us!

[@friedensmal]

I am also communicating with 'them'. Together we worked out a solution for the Alingnment Problem as this is crucial for human development.

[@larrybagina]

Wake up babe, new transmission and guest is the analytical idealism king himself

[@Djeff82]

Love you

[@ragingchimera8021]

1:11:32 I have had psychedelic visions of being this sphere he mentions, and existing in a reality where countless numbers of us are be being birthed into a realm as if we were salmon roe. Then we start participating in this sort of fractal dance where one set of spheres creates a larger sphere and that larger sphere does the same dance with other assembled larger spheres to create another even larger sphere and this repeats into infinity.

[@evolvefromwithinone1003]

Omg I've experienced EXACTLY what was described in the intro. When I asked for the entity's name, it stated Malakh, which I only later discovered was Hebrew for Messenger, Teacher, Angel. Wow.

[@ayoubzahiri1918]

Many people experienced that , i knew a friend he told me same report, he saw an glowing elephant trunk, in that trunk there was a humanoid holding a plate and in the plate was this gift, a shiny diamond that was presented , was it similar to this?

[@clli9458]

to me Bernard puts itt very consicely, The first presented minute mono by him is basically my recent thesis abstract, referred him some

[@silberlinie]

Bernardo Kastrup could take a look at Nick Bostrom's study of 'AI Creation and the Cosmic Host'. Bernardo Kastrup's more metaphysical approach is juxtaposed with Nick Bostrom's purely physical approach to defining existence. Both show a sheer depth in their immense, vastly comprehensive thought structures that is staggering. Is the cosmos that huge? As an individual in my apartment in a small country house, I don't get to see any of it. Through my window I see part of the surrounding landscape, I see trees, hedges and grass. A few birds fly around sometimes.

[@babaloo42]

I would like to hear Bernardo's take on Fortean events like rains of beans or meat where there's no physical world explanation.

[@Idrawfyyyuhh]

I’m able to astral projection and have OBE. I’ve only gotten past the vibration stage two times. I was afraid because of how intense it was. Very loud noise that sounds like a jet ✈️ taking off and knarly vibrations. I was launched into space one of the two times I held on and didn’t wake myself up

[@ayoubzahiri1918]

How do you do that? Meditation ? Breathwork?

[@danielpaulson8838]

Yah, what am I doing right now? What a god complex.

[@a99a66a]

2:02:03 My friend is autistic and have many difficulties with day to day tasks. Last 4 years they take Zoloft once every three days in a really small subclinical dose. Changes their personality completely. However every psychiatrist we talked with say it is impossible and should not have any effect. I always wonder if it is placebo or not, but if they accidentally take a little more than needed that will make them aggressive and agitated for a few hours, so I presume the drug works. This happens every now and then because they have to cut the pill with a knife to get their dose right and that’s not very accurate. To give you a sense of how small their dose is: one pill lasts 3-4 months. Psychiatrist usually prescribe them one per day.

[@tomdorman2486]

At time stamp 39 you guys talk about positive thinking, and Bernardos answer was no you can't influence the world in that way. But to counter his objections,I say if you have billions people in a classic tug a war and only one against the rest the one will not be detected as doing anything.

[@adamnoer]

Very interesting!

[@breadcrumbtv]

Like two friends I haven’t met yet discussing some of my favourite subjects, vunderbahh👌(However, Bernardo, i think mentioning the sheer inhumanity on display in the active genocide of the Palestinian people was conspicuous in its absence, and surely a more powerful example to make your point?

[@tomsmith2361]

Mouth opens, story begins. - Raigo from Estonia 🎉

[@tomdorman2486]

Time stamp 1:42, how can we see without our eyes? We do this. Our eyes are very limited. It's a small % of the picture we see when we open our eyes in the morning. It's our imagination piecing our memories of the room along with the clues our eyes or giving us. Our eyes are precise in that small % and that's enough to survive. But is it a stretch to say it's possible to use the other clues to form a mental picture? And there is a claim of blind sight. So I think these examples as well as many others leave this a possibility.

[@fibanacci8]

Fine insights..

[@sinautus]

Perhaps the trees are the wise ones.. they seem to have shit sorted.. good work life balance..

[@me_josh]

Haha...I actually took 2 grams last night just to interact with this thing you guys talking about... And it was actually interacting with me and it was actually how it was depicted on the intro... And how you guys described it thank you so much.... I do this thing where I daydream for 20 minutes with eyes closed....then as I am peaking I open my eyes into a dark room....and I am fully Into my daydream with eyes open

[@MeaningSeekerPod]

Excellent!!! 🌀🌀💥🌀🌀

[@brivetti]

i love listening to Bernardo, having some much in common with him its surprising to me, we both have severe tinnitus and take the same drug, born in the same country and the only difference is that he is a genius and i am dumb

[@ittiamgg]

The indian mathemetical genius Ramanjuan wrote theorms that described the reality of blackholes decades before their existence was predicted. His ideas were so advanced even for contemporary mathematicians of his time as well as hundreds of his theorems are now the research thesis for present day maths scholars. Yet he attributed all of his ideas to the godess Namagiri who he worshipped and who gave the ideas in his dream. He also said that an equation has no meaning unless it expresses a thought of god. Very profound. This suggests all ideas and possibilities always exist and is expressed through the consciousness in various forms. Humans merely absorb and transmit. There is a full fledged intelligence at work of which we are also a part and we need to recognise, respect and be aligned with it.

[@THIRDEYEDROPS]

Sounds amazing I’ll look into him

[@TheCoyotemonster]

Just today something odd happened. Last night, one of the images I saw as I went to sleep was of my ex-military boss having longish hair. I overheard him telling someone today how he needed a haircut on his already very short hair. I told them of the image I saw, and the other person exactly described the way his hair used to be when he was young.

[@DOCTORHEINOUS]

Please don’t listen to this guy. Your life is about you. Reality as a whole is absolutely not. But your physical experience is absolutely about you.

[@danielpaulson8838]

Go hide under the bed

[@maxphilly]

I was able to do this in a timeless way when i was a kid it's very strange and hard to explain how time works when you do this. The pain of life brings your consciousness to focus on your body in which you're trapped so this aspect doesn't get developed so when we die we are ignorant souls and we get harvested again for rebirth. Eventually less people will have kids in an effort to counter this death machine that is earth or we will prosper and make life worth living.

[@glenemma1]

It is Me, always Me, only Me.

[@zeroonetime]

We are all, humans and animals, are no other than Biological Robots.

[@absentmindhere]

You cannot fully be "no-self" all the time - it is a much needed part of the iterative process of life. But you also have to remember these are concepts and are pointers for yourself (the journey within) and others (the journey beyond).

[@xmathmanx]

Who perceives this no-self state if not yourself? It's all nonsense

[@susanmcdonald9088]

Can I be weary and just say, we humans have not solved the big questions, but at least the ancient Athenians in their new democracy, itself a rare gem in the human cosmos, also created the theatre, where dionysus led the stories... The only returns coming far as i can image, is Odysseus on the Big Screen coming to a theatre or somewhere, soon! Hallelujah! Santa on his way, merry Christmas all, and to all, a good night.

[@janthonycologero9206]

I wonder what Bernardo thinks of Hermetica and Kybalion veins of thought?

[@TheDAT9]

Everything is based on The Hermetic Principles. All is Mind. The ancients knew this millennia ago, before the YD cataclysm..

[@Midnightmidway]

And you KNOW that EVERYTHING is mind because...?

[@TheMrGuyver]

The "large blind man and the weak seeing man on his shoulders" analogy makes me think on female and male poles of creation in hermetic philosophy.

[@danielpaulson8838]

Master blaster

[@carollima20]

this sphere he mentions is like the orbs, ufos people see?

[@bunberrier]

not a comment, time marker for finishing later 1:32:00

[@liviuclipa]

Once you see that there is no agent anywhere in reality, the questions Who? How? and Why? Will make no sense.

[@dave4deputyZX]

Bernardo here seems to be suggesting that human beings are the only intelligent, moral entities, and that the "universal mind" is entirely instinctive and not metacognitive. But that goes against the evidence from NDEs where countless thousands of people claim to have encountered intelligent, loving entities, or alternatively a single vast intelligence.

[@CosmicJhana444]

26:28 It sounds like you’re describing (and experiencing) Jhana states, and not realizing it. Having not yet come across the particular, philosophical infrastructure associated with these states.

[@carollima20]

What he says about the Law of Attraction is very real, how it has a side of bringing "undeserved" guilt and responsibility, for making wrong associations of facts that occur and that were caused by you... This can even lead to psychological problems, depression, neurosis and others... Since the law of attraction was popularized (they say it was with the host Oprah), many see it as something magical, a magic solution, but if we think about it, it mainly serves the ego, we have to be careful on that. People use it like that. So, as he says, to keep asking and asking, as if we know everything and only for our pleasure, we are acting by the ego. Of course, everyone wants the best, but we don't know everything. It's better to trust in a higher power and for things to happen because they have to, or because it's something we need at that moment for some reason. Like that phrase that says God writes straight with crooked lines. Who hasn't gone through an experience (I have) that at first seemed bad, negative, but then something good, positive, came from that? Like the classic example of missing the flight and the plane crashing, having an accident... Something to think about...

[@BrianBearButler]

@@carollima20 I find this very interesting and want to hear more of what you think about this

[@carollima20]

@@BrianBearButler Hi, the law of attraction seems to be a magic solution to get what we want. It is obvious that everyone who uses this law uses it to satisfy their desires (e.g., a new car, a dream boyfriend, the perfect trip), because no one is going to ask for an illness, a family problem, etc... We can all agree on that, right? When we do this, we are "serving" the ego. The problem I see is that this law serves the ego. We don't have enough wisdom to say and be aware of what is "best" for us at all times. There are many stories of people who have gone through bad situations, but from that bad situation came something good after, or the person became someone better after that (a benefit came even if it is after a few days, or many years, no matter the time). For you to understand better, in the movie Signs with Mel gibson (have you watched it?), his son has asthma, which saves him from the entity's poison. The daughter who tastes bad in the water (and because she is in the house of Christian reverend, it is holy water) that then hurts the entities like acid. These signals that the family receives about the events are signs that something mysterious exists above all of us. The law of attraction makes us want to control our surroundings in a way that is unnatural and can be very harmful. Someone who concludes that their negative experiences are the result of their own negative thoughts and attitudes may feel guilty or ashamed for not being able to change their circumstances. We don't have control of everything, but the law of attraction puts that weight on us. The theory holds that thoughts, whether positive or negative, send vibrations to the universe, which return in the form of equivalent events. This can lead to anxiety, guilt. Imagine someone visualizing something and thinking, striving to emit the "right" frequency for their desire. And a bad, sad (negative) situation happens, as an example a thief steals her. She feels guilty, she thinks that what caused this was her frequency that was "wrong", but this fact of the theft was already going to happen anyway, it was not caused by her. After all, the world happens independently of us too, but it is as if LAW puts us in a dangerous "spotlight" in which we are actors with strong narcissistic tendencies and control over the world. Therefore, we can have our desires but remember that we do not control everything, we have to flow with our desires, aspirations. And the most important thing for me is to trust in a greater power (in a greater protection, whatever it is) that is on our side.

[@me_josh]

Yes I've been looking for this glowing light that teaches you.... Omfg where is the full video

[@yadurajdas532]

There are evidence of people seen with close eyes, I really don’t understand why Bernardo has difficulty with that. Doesn’t he think that universal consciousness cannot see hear or taste

[@BreeeYT]

I do think he should give more credit to animals they aren’t purely instinctual

[@BreeeYT]

I cringe when people but humans on such a high pedestal- a lot of animals are kinder than humans. I spend all my day around animals. Just because they can’t speak through our language it doesn’t mean they live purely instinctively. There is a lot of active thought that goes into their ways of life too. Just different to ours. Also not every human has these reflective processes either.

[@BreeeYT]

I challenge people who love consciousness to spend a lot of time with animals before commenting on them. *triggered lol*

[@youngiansorted1255]

Time stamps anyone?

[@not.mikemcleod]

The irony you speak of is the same one Terence McKenna refers to when he says that science asks us to grant them one miracle, the Big Bang.

[@Rollingstonezzzmag]

🤔 u think ?

[@Aether92399]

True for some, false for others. This is what I can say

[@Renvoxan]

Bernardo, lfg!

[@Recallalertnetwork111]

While i find this very intersting i am totally lost.

[@joeytheetge9268]

The dissociative zone is me...trance medium gnostic whatever.

[@JohnDoeBand1]

Sorry Michael, I love the topics and guests that you have but your attempts to try to sound smart by using obscure words is really frustrating. Learn from your guest - Bernardo's ideas go deep but he puts them in plain language. Just a thought - keep it up and love what you put out!

[@edzardpiltz6348]

I am confused by Bernardo saying that in an OBE you only experience a model of the physical world. I thought under idealism the physical world itself is only a model, the dashboard, as Bernardo calls it, of some deeper reality that is not physical 😶🤔

[@arahperrett8212]

.I found myself out of my body at least twice as a child. I can completely identify with the fear and flailing about like a baby. I didn't do it on purpose, and I was scared. I could also lucid dream. Neither of these skills have followed me into adulthood.

[@genevievemichele7]

🌀