Conservatives in comics

[@AL-ws5yi]

Let me put it this way, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if they bring back Chuck Dixon and Mike Baron to do some comics at the big two.

[@knightofbrokenglass9237]

have you read any of their recent work - those two are a joke

[@adamfrey4920]

​@@knightofbrokenglass9237I dunno, man. Granted it's two decades old, but I just saw Dixon's adaptation of the Hobbit (yes, that's him) in Target. That's better than most graphic novels lately.

[@howzyerfather]

If you don't like my books, don't buy my politics.

[@PrivateCitizen84]

I chose another route to that challenge. If they want to be an ass about it? I just buy it pre owned. Reseller gets all the cash money.

[@CharlesB147]

I just want people who can write well. I really don't care about their politics, just tell good stories. Please.

[@mythanita4292]

Then you'll never find someone who writes well if they don't have any political opinions and put it into their story. You're just reading at a 5 year old level

[@CharlesB147]

@mythanita4292 I'm not saying they can't have political opinions, or put them into a story. That's going to happen regardless. I'm just saying, prioritize the story first. I know plenty of great books that speak to political realities and ideologies, but they tell a gripping story, too. That's what makes them good.

[@MILOPETIT]

​@@CharlesB147 Good artists are usually left leaning anyway. Conservative ideology doesn't work well with creativity.

[@adamfrey4920]

I wonder how much shit Mark Millar got for interviewing Mike Baron yesterday? Of course, he has FU money.

[@HonduranHoneymoonhon]

He probably didn't. People like Millar. And Mike Baron is a Racemixer. Plus Mike Baron is too nice of a person to hate

[@TitularHeroine]

I had to rewind the video several times because I kept being reminded, and so distracted from it, of my current roommate. Also a comics fan, and Democrat, m•therf•cker literally started to cry when he heard I'm regisstered independent. I shit you not: trembling lip, eyes misting over. On the other hand, he's one of those nerd types that is archetypally bizarre anyway, but it's an in-my-face reminder of how irrationally polarized people can get. Even those who claim to be the most rational are the subjects of unreason. We all need to take several deep breaths and sit the •••• down for a minute.

[@pnptcn]

right on cancel the culture war

[@johnnyjamboogie6614]

“Too much benefit for being an asshole.” I agree. That’s why I’ve been saying the assholes that have been calling readers every disparaging name in the book should be fired. Let’s introduce some detriment for their behavior.

[@Coconut-219]

Normalize not giving the threat a seat at the bargaining table. Tolerance is over, consequence is now.

[@billyhills9933]

I remember when the Power Pack were supposed to be Mormons. Am I a Mormon? No. But the idea that all superheroes are bitten by atheist spiders is a bit ridiculous.

[@heroineburgh]

Agreed. We have a Mormon goth superheroine: Etherea. Her character is based on an actual local goth DJ that I've been friends with for a couple decades who moved here from Utah in the 90s to join the local scene. It's certainly valid to imbue characters with all sorts of interesting traits and identities, not just the typical 'woke' ones.

[@sodacan1415]

I've grown to dislike the term "mandate" after hearing it ad nauseum this past month. That being said, it _is_ a mandate. A slim but monumental one that displays an increasingly red trend over the past 8 years where states like Ohio and Florida are no longer swing states and with PA potentially following suit. The country shifted ~7 points to the right, making an R+3 electorate. He won the popular vote, EC, and dragged both Houses by his coattails. He improved with nearly every demographic; the best performing GOP candidate with blacks in 48 years, young voters in 20, and Hispanics in the history of polling. It was the most diverse coalition in modern election history. He flipped counties that voted overwhelmingly for H. Clinton and tinted California just a bit redder. One can say that other Republicans have done better with the popular vote, particularly Reagan, however this is rather disingenuous: the country is not the same demographically as it was 20 years ago or 40 years ago. Trump won in a much much more difficult electorate for a Republican. Right now there is a sort of rewiring/realignment going on within both parties and we will have to see how that plays out in the future. Very interesting from an election nerd standpoint. I would also like to point out that Bill Clinton won a so-called mandate with a mere 43% of the popular vote.

[@profpurge]

So....when Joe Biden won in 2020 by flipping Arizona and Georgia, winning by seven million votes, getting over 50 percent of the total vote, expanding the House and flipping the Senate, was that a superior mandate? Did it signal a generational realignment? When the Republican "Red Wave" largely evaporated in 2018, with Democrats gaining Senate seats, what did that represent? And I remember Bill Clinton's tenure, and Republicans constantly brought up that he only won a plurality, saying over and over again that not winning 50 percent plus meant no mandate (of course, they will NOT recall ever saying that now that Trump is under 50 percent).

[@jamesmcclure3907]

I would rather there was a focus on Values, not Beliefs

[@adamfrey4920]

Remember that time in Secret Wars II where a villain tried to kill Captain America for being a Republican? "Now there'll be one fewer!" he cried. This happened.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

That can't be right. Comics didn't get political until 2014 🙄

[@HonduranHoneymoonhon]

Remember in the 1940s when the heroes made the head of the FBI an honorary member of the Justice Society of America or when the heroes thought about quitting being a hero so they could join the war

[@criticclips1560]

@@HonduranHoneymoonhon That's blatant propaganda not something to gloat about lol

[@HonduranHoneymoonhon]

@criticclips1560 I wasn't gloating; I was going further back than the 80s to show their propaganda and bias for whatever the state wanted. Idk if that was their own opinions, or if that was something the government told them to do, or maybe their bosses at the companies.

[@moonjellykevin]

I don't really pay attention to a lot of entertainment "journalism" and youtube pundits because I had my tipping point of finding it all tiring and pointless. But that said, if comics were generally undeniably great (not just "good." Has to be in that next level), in more hands, and everyone was talking about that killer, mind-blowing story, I'm certain the last thing on anyone's mind are the creator's politics. To use wrestling terms, kayfabe has to be restored. I know it's not happening with social media, but sometimes I think I really don't want to know about a creator's private and personal life. All that matter is if they're delivering great work.

[@OnimenoJason]

Probably open conservatives will never at the big publishers. The rot is too deep at those places and they wouldn't allow someone that doesn't match their ideology at those places. This isn't unique in comics either. Happens also with novel writing for the big trad pubs. What is going to happen is the need for conservatives to do their own things. Iconic is a good example of conservative leaning comic company based on the stuff they put out. There are also some good ones for novels that have sort of popped up and starting their own things. The problem is that we don't have people on the conservative side that pushes content from conservative creators. It's a problem that some authors have talked about. There's a real need for that promotion in the sphere to help grow creators to allow for that parallel economy.

[@Alexcobra861]

don't forget the film industry, which is completely inaccessible for conservatives, the last conservatives in Hollywood was John Millius and we saw how it ended for him, the only one we still let work and even then it's because he makes money, it's Clint Eastwood, but I have the impression that Hollywood sees him more as a kind of grumpy grandpa who says it was better before, as a pure conservative who fights, debates and makes declarations for his ideas.

[@clonegeek3317]

I started writing a comic last night

[@columpaget5167]

you have to admit tho, "fisted by the bright fist of Trump" is the kind of action-packed and colorful writing that the comics industry is missing.

[@JosephPeluso-ce4tm]

Like your letter writer, I don't want conservative talking point, anymore than I want the continuance of liberal talking points. And the reason is simple: Talking points make for boring comic books. Twenty page of The Parkers and The Osbornes shooting the shit in a restaurant is tiresome and tedious. That's not why I buy comics. I want action, suspense, mystery, and a modicum of soap opera. Just hire the most qualified people to write comics, and they will be fun again.

[@badmojo7825]

Are you saying Ethan Van Sciver, Shane Daivis or Dale Keown will be allowed to come back to Marvel & DC??? The only thing EVS did wrong was wear a MAGA hat in 2016.

[@Sykdude]

I'm more willing to believe that aliens travelled 1000 lightyears to put drones on top of New Jersey than I am willing to bet that we'll see a "conservative" writer. Speaking of which, alien drones of New Jersey could probably be a good back to basics Ms. Marvel story. 🤔

[@JP-1990]

I just want an equal amount of affirmation of conservative values and beliefs in mainstream media that liberalism gets. Its not enough that we need more conservative representation. We need them to have a moral case and not be treated as an obstacle that needs to be overcome. Whenever I see conservatives in media, their beliefs are treated like some sort of addiction that needs to be undone and discarded. Why CAN'T we have more Republican characters who are not only unafraid to vocally support the candidates and/or parties that they want, but should be treated as normal. 80 million people voted Trump in 2020, and Hollywood and the entertainment industry at large makes nothing for them, despite the potential billions of dollars that could be made.

[@HonduranHoneymoonhon]

We definitely don't need an equal amount. We need 0% of Liberal Values Unless they're coming from Villains.

[@profpurge]

Actually, no, 81 million people voted for Joe Biden in 2020, with Trump getting 74 million votes, and then 77 million this year to Kamala Harris' 74 million; but be that as it may, what would conservatives consider to be affirming entertainment from Hollywood? Would it simply be more examples of openly Christian heroes? More stories where corporate executives or wealthy entrepreneurs were shown in a positive light? Less non-traditional casting? Or a denunciation of LGBT people, or exposing global warming as a "hoax", or some other sort of right-wing shibboleth? What would you want to see done differently?

[@zuffin1864]

I just don't want cheap art anymore. And can we get some classic comic remasters that don't ruin the coloring and keep some texture

[@ComicsOdyssey]

I feel that.

[@samhighvoltage]

IDK Perch guy makes a strong argument. His nuance really has yours outmatched. I think it was the glowing glove bit that won me over 😂 Health problems on every level are no joke, take care and godspeed brother.

[@belgiumcomics2537]

People complain about one political ideologie being pushed down their throats but it seems they would be happy to replace it with another political ideology being pushed down their throats. Oh it's ok when you agree with the political message being given? We just need good writers back in comics again.

[@ComicsOdyssey]

The emailer specifically said they *didn’t* want an ideology replacement.

[@johnnyjamboogie6614]

Not true. Comics written with blatant conservative messaging would be just as bad. The problem we have now is that the current people making comics view everyone with 1 or 2 opinions that may be conservative as goose-stepping ww2 bad guys and gleefully treat them as such. They. Need. To. Go.

[@dennisanderson3895]

Very good analysis, Perch! No talented contributor of either "side" should be concerned for their career b/c they indicated a different standard or opinion from others. Likewise, the product is not meant to be a poli-soc lecture. Focus on cooperating to make GOOD product and living tolerance in the today-to-day little details.

[@JasperJFellow]

What a pleasant alternative to the typical rot, thank you!

[@psal8715]

My guess on the big 5 are Marvel, DC, Image, Dark Horse and IDW

[@RedDragonM1]

This is why I don't watch SNL, Colbert, or Kimmel anymore. I don't think they are helping...for one, when did talk show hosts and a sketch comedy show become more important than actual experts!? Also...I didn't trust either of them. We need a new system!

[@carlgibson285]

I really don't care about the political views of the people who work in comics, but I'd hate for politics to disappear from comics altogether. Some of my favourite comics are extremely political in nature, with V For Vendetta, Marshal Law: Fear & Loathing and Judge Dredd: America all making it into my top 10 best comic-book stories of all-time.

[@BitingComics]

My guess is that comic book writers will be much more subtle in putting their political opinions into comics. Like in the old days.

[@revolutionarydragon1123]

If you are not paying attention it could come off subtle

[@millernumber1]

I know one writer who is at least center right, and even though it's not open, there's still a lot of nasty fans who mutter threats about them. It's so frustrating as a conservative.

[@lg6400]

I'm convinced that there are a segment of readers that DO NOT read comics for good storytelling. Whenever a creator is more known for their personal politics/positioning over their ability to tell great stories the overall goal isnt accomplished. Today, many readers of comics search for identity purposes. I've never put a book back based on the politics of the creator. Some creators are good some are bad. Life is way too complicated to allow politics control your outlets of media and entertainment.

[@ComicsOdyssey]

Thank you, Perch!

[@commonsense5199]

1:32 Well that is lazy. Fence Sitter is more natural. Because you look at both sides. There are fools out there that don’t check themselves. 1:54 No One cares. That what a sane person would say. 3:14 That is the sad part. People don’t want to get along. They just want to be right and false information just to be right or for the sake of views. I know a certain someone would go low enough to purposely spread out false information. It made me not trust that person. 5:02 yeah, that is before 2011. So should I blame the left for Furiosa failing at the box-office, Perch? You know people assuming the Movie is Girlboss when it clearly not when you actually saw the movie. I definitely blame the Twitter controversy they made Marvel to get rid of Danny Rand and Frank Castle. Yeah, a lot of people(including in the comment section) want to blame Jason Aaron for the punisher comic. Ignoring The Controversy of Police using the Punisher Symbol. Ignoring before that, Matthew Rosenberg the Punisher writer, before Jason Aaron, did tackle on Police and Punisher symbol in the comic. Sadly it didn’t stop twitter. And Ignoring Tom Breevort whoever is the editor of Jason Aaron’s Punisher. Tom Breevort argued with Chuck Dixion about the Punisher And Tom Breevort tries to convince people in article to accept David Pepose’s Joe Garrison aka Diet Punisher. It is fascinating that Tom Breevort flew under everyone’s radars until he became chief editor of X Men comics and Breevort saying Peter cannot be with MJ give him the attention. Really Interesting. 5:26 Oh god. Homeless Captain America. Jeez. I am positive image already welcome conservative writers. Image comic still published Warren Ellis’ work after the allegations. Desolation Jones. 8:37 Why Five Years? 9:11 Let’s get Bill Willingham to write Bernard again. I mean Bill Willingham is the same guy who supports Obsidian to be gay, while Willingham is same guy who never intended Bernard to be gay. 9:14 I Don’t want people to get cancelled. There are adults that need to grow up and stop spreading misinformation. Both sides include. 9:44 It call the *KZbin algorithm, Perch* KZbinrs wants to be negative, toxic positive and making stuff up to get attention. They don’t care about honor or fairness. They care about what actually happens in the source material they claim they reviewing. Even if I call them out they won’t listen to Common Sense. I would be surprised if DC and Marvel get back Chuck Dixion. Heck in matter of Fact, hey Chuck Dixion to write Payback comic. Remember Payback? Edward Dyson? The guy who was a cop who used to work with Frank Castle. But due to the consequences working with Frank, Edward loss his family and he swears vengeance on Frank Castle. Chuck Dixion should do a story about Payback. How does he a former cop feel about the Police using The Punisher symbol? Payback wears a Punisher Symbol with a *No Sign on it.* Why cops not wearing a no sign? See Professor Perchington, how come you comic experts never mention characters like Payback? Like Junzo Muto. Well did your are basic when it come to characters. Have you send the new Lord of the Rings movie? I saw it. I didn’t read the books. And I know the movie wasn’t faithful to the book. *War of the Rohirrim still a good movie. Million times better than Rings of Power* The character Hera is not a Girlboss and she not a Mary sue. She way better written than Galadriel from Rings of Power. They literally Day(Hera) and Night(Galadriel). Complete opposite. But sadly people will make the misconception she is based on Twitter and KZbin algorithm. How Dull.

[@patrickmoreau7592]

Perch, can you review the new Superman trailer when it comes out?

[@theinvisibleskulk4563]

If you feel like you're not being accepted as a human being, you probably have an unhealthy idea of who you are.

[@steelbat54]

Perch, I believe that you’re old enough to remember when discussing politics was taboo or at least the discussion was kept to family and friends. Hell, I actually have heard of family members not revealing who they voted for to each other. But since the internet came into being people anomalously spout their venom on both sides. Society was much calmer and the division in the country was almost indistinguishable because no one knew what side of the fence anyone was on.. I think we can all agree that the division has gotten so much worse even in Washington that it’s no wonder they get even less done than in years back. People should just shut the f**k up and keep their politics to themselves. And my personal opinion on people in media is that they should be required to not express their opinions overtly and maybe use a little tact if they insist.. I’m just sick of it.

[@keithdotson3991]

No.

[@heroineburgh]

Maybe you should expand the topic to the Big Six instead. Here's why: The Big 2 are unlikely to hire any conservative writers other than Millar anytime soon. Maybe a conservative artist if they get desperate. Dark Horse and Image are located in Portland OR, so that's a dead issue. And isn't Heather Antos still at IDW? See what I mean? But at Dynamite, I don't think Nick Barrucci cares politically who creates the books as long as the writing and art is good, and the female leads look sexy. For example, I've been following the last two runs of Barbarella, and they were written by libertarian sci-fi author Sarah Hoyt and longtime center-right comics writer Blake Northcott, and nobody's raised a peep. Maybe because SJWs don't pay much attention to Dynamite when CG isn't involved (e.g. the Cecil flap), but still, it definitely makes Dynamite the most likely company to hire a right-winger without backlash.

[@ascorvinus]

The first letter doesn’t do much to disguise the writer’s fetish, does it? Comics have generally skewed left, I agree, but it seems a little too Soviet these days. I don’t blame conservatives in comics for keeping their politics to themselves.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

That train has left the station long ago. Both, Marvel and DD, have clearly been captured by the far left within the Democrats and their parent companies don’t care at all as they are not contributing in money to the company in a meaningful way. So there is nobody pushing the culture warriors out and they will not let anyone in that is not of their tribe. PS: Mark Millar writing something at Marvel is a marketing stunt similar to Lee doing Batman. It’s sadly not a sign of actual change, just a new version of „variant covers“ in the form of variant guests from the past. PPS: It may be mean, but I see no signs for positive change. I learned my lesson from years ago, when Perch promised change, that change alone is meaningless as it can be change to even worse. Without any signs for actually positive change, it’s just more of the last ten years with a fresh paint job.

[@Killer_Kovacs]

I was ok with trump after his first term. Generally don't like Republican candidates

[@chrislitke1003]

When it comes to comics I don’t care what your politics are. I’m a conservative who voted for trump and I don’t care what people say. I buy books from huge leftist’s like savage dragon from Larsen and knights from the dinner table by jolly Blackburn. I do it because I love the book and when it comes to savage dragon it’s all about the art for me. Everyone have the right to vote for whoever they want it your right to. But when dc made Superman’s son gay I stop reading it because I don’t believe in that. People have the right to do what they want. It’s all about what you believe in I guess and you shouldn’t judge people based on what they believe or think. Just my opinion.

[@antoniohb4927]

So Perch is liberal?

[@ComicsPerch]

Feels like this has been answered directly, many many times.

[@keoghanwhimsically2268]

@@ComicsPerchNot surprised that you are a liberal, but I am surprised you thought that Kamala Harris was the more liberal choice this election. Between her positions on free speech, due process, economic liberty, criminalizing the opposition, subordinating individual rights to group identity, etc., hard to see the liberal there.

[@ComicsPerch]

Still not a liberal.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Yea I completely disagree there, it’s painfully obvious that Donald is a far far faaaaaaar better choice, it’s not even close.

[@laisphinto6372]

Yeah its pretty annoying that people Gaslight US that somehow the Sides especially in the Entertainment space are equal Like bruh the left Ran the Show since forever and especially during trumps First presidency it got pretty hamfisted with one Sided democrats talking points, we never have Something similar to the left with the rightleaning Side simply because the left absolutely dominates culture and the right IS barely even in the culture and Most of so called rightwing people in the culture are mostly Just also leftists but are entertainers and Artists First WHO place that over politics

[@profpurge]

Eh, some of us comic fans actually prefer not to have an actual criminal in power, especially if they're not nearly as smart or classy as Luthor or Norman Osborn, though with the scraggly bird's nest of hair and the orange pancake make-up, Trump might have made a decent bad guy on the old 1966 Batman tv show.

[@keoghanwhimsically2268]

@@profpurgeAh yes, these must be the same comic book fans who like to criminalize and jail their opposition so they can claim to be running against criminals if they couldn’t jail them first. Not the virtuous position you think it is. This, along with other related insanity, made many of us who never supported Trump before pull the lever for him this time. I just hope your political opponents are more virtuous to you than you were to them so we can put this whole sordid un-American business behind us.

[@gdt19871]

Sorry that Trump supporter sent you that message. We're not all like that. Actually, from my experience, most of us are not. Justnfound your page today. I really like it so far! Thanks man!

[@firehaps]

A problem I've noticed with conservative writers is that character doesn't seem to be their strong suit. We have plenty of examples of beloved three-dimensional conservative characters written and portrayed by liberals, but you never see it the other way around. It's cliche to say, but I think why this is boils down to a lack of empathy and a poor theory of mind.

[@MrSafior]

Yeah, it's like conservator are inherent bad with art, outside some outliner that aren't deep in the rabbit hole.