How I got into Quake as a Zoomer

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@SvenS2_SGM
@SvenS2_SGM 17 күн бұрын
Glad to see fresh blood enjoying and supporting the genre 🤘
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the welcome :D
@stellanFPS
@stellanFPS 17 күн бұрын
I’m born in 2007 and I’m loving quake live and champions, already gave 300 hours in each of the games respectively.
@SvenS2_SGM
@SvenS2_SGM 17 күн бұрын
@stellanFPS Hell yea son. Keep it up
@RoniChard2010
@RoniChard2010 12 күн бұрын
​@JaybyrdePlays bro, you should check out the multiplayer that was bundled with the first Doom of the new lot.. the Bethesda one. It is probably the closest thing to this, but has some mad extras and modes. Plus the mo-cap for emotes is insane.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 11 күн бұрын
@@stellanFPS Holy crap kids born in 2007 are already adults. Time flies.
@Rivulets048
@Rivulets048 18 күн бұрын
Props bro Keeping the quake legacy alive
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 18 күн бұрын
Thanks, If it wasn't for the local Quake community I wouldn't have made this video
@handledis
@handledis 14 күн бұрын
​​@@JaybyrdePlaysget quake 1 and play all the mods. Srsly airstrafing and the mods is like Adrenalin. I can even upload a gog Version for 1 and 2. But "f" 2. Might need a month tho xd
@shuvack5571
@shuvack5571 14 күн бұрын
I might be more into the singleplayer/coop gameplay for Quake 1, but I've always loved watching pro tournaments for Quake 3, I come back every now and then to watch pro players in Quake Champions because there isn't really anything like it.
@handledis
@handledis 14 күн бұрын
Q1 is da drip with the mods.
@chandude3
@chandude3 16 күн бұрын
how i got into quake >plays quake champions its so over for zoomers lol
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
hehe
@jacobm92
@jacobm92 12 күн бұрын
I mean if you play quake live without 20 yrs of experience the boomers just start elo checking you in chat and telling you to uninstall
@chandude3
@chandude3 12 күн бұрын
@@jacobm92 its part of the experience
@maceelliott3150
@maceelliott3150 5 күн бұрын
I’d highly recommend the co-op campaigns of the original Quake and Quake II. There’s remasters available now that make those games highly accessible. Although I’d recommend playing around with the decades worth of mods that augment the experience.
@jacobm92
@jacobm92 5 күн бұрын
@@chandude3 True. I actually played QL a lot back when it was still browser based and dont really remember being that bad at it. But lately when I tried getting back into it the people on clan arena games would just roast the fuck out of me lol. I would still win some rounds for the team but it was pretty brutal
@Pekter
@Pekter 17 күн бұрын
This video "confirms" the theory that zoomers will love quake but they are not exposed to it. Its a quick game, that does not require much at casual level but it can be really rewarding for those that wants to explore the competitive side. It shares many traits with FN but they require completly different skills mechanically, Fortnite focus more on the skill expression in they keyboard side and quake exposes all that type of aim a FPS can have.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree with that for sure
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 16 күн бұрын
Sort of? I adore Quake and still play QC a lot (born in 96), but I think it's problem today is that it gets "samey" fast. It isn't very dynamic. There's little room for someone to have their particular way of playing. There must be SOME problem for it to be as underplayed as it is. QC did the hero thing but I really wish the differences were just hitbox, movement and HP without the abilities. I think Diabotical had the right idea with it's equipment pickups, balance adjustments for modern accuracy rates and game modes like Wipeout (which I really, REALLY want to see elsewhere). Most old remaining Quakeheads are too resistant to gamemodes that aren't Deathmatch and too many QC lobbies are eight people smushed together on a map made for duels. Shootmania also had the right idea, I think, having an in-game mapping tool, and PERSONALLY I loved that it styled itself as a sport. Even so, too much of Quake boils down to circling around the map like a jet fighter because you got your item timings down. There isn't much decision-making. There needs to be more situational moment-to-moment strategy for it to capture more people's attention today. Maybe a set of modifiers for weapons that get semi-randomly selected, like, one match the shotgun becomes a Krak Shotgun that mostly deals damage to armor, the RL becomes TF2's Direct Hit and the machine-gun gets impulse so you can fly with it... and mods like that get shuffled around between guns match to match. I don't know. That could interact in cool ways with the varying movement and max HP / armor values of these characters. _Something_ to break it up in the absence of significant character interactions or map shenanigans. ...I still mostly play Quake.
@Brodoomer
@Brodoomer 13 күн бұрын
That makes sense. To give an example, Quake Champions had a really bad marketing campaign in comparison with games like Overwatch. If things would have turned out differently, maybe QC would have been as recognizable as DOOM (2016) and Doom Eternal.
@menschenhaiBG
@menschenhaiBG 12 күн бұрын
i also showed the QC to couple of my zoomer friends and they loved it.
@Dekaku
@Dekaku 17 күн бұрын
It's great to see new people getting into Arena shooters. I will always cherish the time I spent on random servers, playing and chatting with other players (back then before everyone was on voice chat all the time). If you get the chance and want to check out something a tad slower movement but on with additional vehicles, Unreal Tournament's Onslaught is a great game mode. There are also a couple of other games that are worth mentioning, Enemy Territory and Enemy Territory Quake Wars (even if the last one was kinda ill fated). And I absolutely agree, telefragging is one of the most rewarding ways to frag.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, I definitely think that the games where people don't gather in voice chat have a different and good vibe to them. Thanks for the game suggestions, i've been wanting to try unreal tournament for a while
@i_am_ergo
@i_am_ergo 9 күн бұрын
From a crusty 37-year-old Quake vet, good on ya. This was genuinely endearing to watch and listen to.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 9 күн бұрын
thanks, i'm glad you enjoyed it :D
@ChasishOnYouTube
@ChasishOnYouTube 17 күн бұрын
'98 here. I grew up playing Unreal Tournament 1999 and 2004, some Quake here and there. I tried this game a while ago and thought it would be awesome were it not for the low player count. Unfortunately Epic Games decided that Unreal Tournament should be unavailable online, but if you can get your hands on an old disk copy (or a "legit" version online), you should 100% try at least UT '99. UT 2k4 is pretty great for LAN parties as well. Keep trying old shooters! There's still so much life left in these games.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I definitely want to try out the Unreal games, they look reaaally good
@nephatrine
@nephatrine 16 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays Yeah UT2K4 is fantastic.
@LambdaHidden
@LambdaHidden 16 күн бұрын
Thanks to openspy, it's possible to play ut online again. Unfortunately, since your online profile is based on your cd key, new profiles can't be made anymore.
@ChasishOnYouTube
@ChasishOnYouTube 16 күн бұрын
@@LambdaHidden So getting a secondhand CD with a key included also allows you to inherit the associated account? That's wild and not safe at all.
@quarreneverett4767
@quarreneverett4767 14 күн бұрын
There are still servers annd stuff going
@jorts_master69
@jorts_master69 14 күн бұрын
Videos like this make me feel less alone as a Gen Z-er who enjoys classic FPS. Always glad to see more people my age getting into these great games.
@videogamevlogs3765
@videogamevlogs3765 17 күн бұрын
Every year I take the time to add mods and replay Quake 1. I find new maps/mods/content every time and never disappointment and now have a huge collection of maps and mods. It's amazing.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I'm busy with my own playthrough of Quake 1, might try out the modding when I'm done
@pixelheresy
@pixelheresy 16 күн бұрын
Would second. Quake 1 is worth picking up and playing regularly. My college roommate and I used to constantly play Q1 deathmatch all the time in 2000-2001 even after Q3A came out. And the movement skills would loop into the amazing single player game (getting faster, better, and more bold, like a low-poly John Wick), which would feed back into traversal in multiplayer. I dust off Q3A probably every year as well, but usually just got through the campaign with bots. My favorite old school arena shooter is actually UT2K3. I think the weapons if not *better* have a bit different of a strategy to them and it encourages varying play styles per map more than Q3A/Live. I generally don’t play arena shooters on the regular anymore. The people who play are generally people who got good 20+ years ago and kept it up *or* are new. Not to say it isn’t fun, but I really don’t have the time to devote to it. My absolute favorite FPS is the original Doom. I play it at minimum monthly, and for long stretches, just about daily. There are so many great maps and mods and the complexity available from what looks like simple combat it amazing. I like D2016 and Eternal, but challenge is old Doom comes from more than platforming and arena after arena, especially on top tier community WADs. Anyone looking to get into it and doesn’t want to mess with a million source ports and messing in a command line to load mods and wads, the newest Doom + Doom II on Steam is a really good overall source port and really great community content (in addition to all the official stuff) is easily accessible.
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
@@pixelheresy The ND Steam "remaster" is insulting to the original release, like all of NDs "remasters". Take five minutes and figure out GZDoom, you'll be much happier and it has far better mod support
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays I hope for your sake you're using Ironwail and not playing the insulting Night Dive "remaster".
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
@@beanwithbacon not sure what that means but I got it on steam and it gave me a Quake 1 skin for Quake Champs
@gregregregregregregre
@gregregregregregregre 16 күн бұрын
Fuck yeah, i can 100% relate to that feeling of getting pumped up after seeing pros playing at their max in a tournament. Seeing something i found cool and saying to myself "I won't stop until i can do this" is what made me keep playing till this day. Also can relate a lot about being a poor kid with no access to good PC or video-games and growing up with games 20 years older. Made me value each single component of my computer 30 times more
@nothingelse1520
@nothingelse1520 13 күн бұрын
Clan Arena started as a mod waaaay back for Quake 1 in like 1996. I used to play it on a local ISPs Quake server till it went offline in 1999. Best game mode.
@ignitedradium1624
@ignitedradium1624 17 күн бұрын
Yo, from one Zoomer who loves Arena Shooters to another here's some good AFPS i personally recommend taking a shot at: Quake Champions: Doom Edition - A Doom 2 conversion mod that aims to replicate the Quake Champions format onto a modified Doom engine emulating Quake physics/movement, featuring much more Champions (33 as of writing this comment) bringing in unique Champions and even some 3rd party characters as playable Champions (Gordon Freeman, Serious Sam, Duke Nukem, Postal Dude), custom made assets such as weapon skins, music, and a single player arena campaign akin to Quake 3, highly recommend playing that mod if you really liked QC's concept but amplified Quake Champions: Classic - A w.i.p. Quake 1 conversion mod that aims to makes Quake 1 feature all the playable Champions from QC and bringing it into Q1 alongside some new Champs (Commander Keen, Dusk Dude, Big John), new maps, music, new weaponry (some Champions sport a unique melee weapon, and the Railgun is implemented) and compatibility with the new Q1 re-release, the mod is still relatively early in development (only 10 of the original 16 Champs are in the roster as of writing this comment) though the rest of them alongside more are on the way, i recommend playing that mod if you want something more familiar and controlled for a more pure experience Open Fortress - A Team Fortress 2 Source mod that aims to introduce new gamemodes beyond typical TF2, particularly Quake inspired Deathmatch and team based modes, if you're familiar with TF2 and/or Quake then Open Fortress is there to bridge the gap into a fluid causal Arena Shooter for newcomers of the genre, featuring maps both new and old, music, weapons, characters, and even free custom made cosmetics to mix and match your player Mercenary, the mod is still in heavy development with plans to add more cosmetics, maps, and gamemodes to play around with, i recommend playing that mod if you want a more chill experience that still keeps the engaging charm of Arena Shooters, the community there is also pretty nice since TF2 usually brings in lax goofballs would love to encounter you around those spaces alongside how you feel about them, most of these are easy to set up, free to play, and light to run on most hardware to play on, additionally all these spaces feature discord servers that you can fairly easily find for if you need any particular help from them, keep on fragging dude, and keep up the good content!
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Wow thanks so much! I got Quake 1 a few months back too so def gonna try out the Quake Champions: Classic mod when I get a moment, will check out the others too of course, thanks for the comment, tons of useful information here!
@westyy1892
@westyy1892 17 күн бұрын
The 'instinct before an item spawns' is the moment the game 'clicks'. You get familiar with routing and overall flow of a map. Could link it to flow state if you will I reckon.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
true that, I didn't think of it that way before!
@westyy1892
@westyy1892 16 күн бұрын
@JaybyrdePlays my next tip would be for you to recognise that you are 'there for the item' but don't always feel compelled to pick it up right away. You can position yourself to maybe shoot a rail at your opponent and take some dmg yourself before falling back to it. Ensure its in your favor though first haha. Lots of little tricks you can do to give yourself an advantage. By doing the above you'll force them to back off and restock their health while you have the health stack advantage. This would then allow you to push your opponent. :)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I definitely have tons of strategy to learn, will keep this tip in mind for sure!
@plswhy
@plswhy 17 күн бұрын
QC in particular has this thing where for some reason id united basically every basic movement tech variant in all their games past the first Quake into one game, and all of them are relatively unique. The basic physics used by most champions is called vq3, which contrary to what was said requires you to snap your mouse in the corresponding acceleration area as fast as you can. However if you start from a standstill you'd need to move the mouse towards your intended direction at a speed that isn't instant. It's a technique called circlestrafing, which gets a higher initial starting speed in a single jump than regular strafejumping, but past the first jump you need to do the latter. Both circlejumping and strafejumping are universal across every single champion, but vq3 tends to suffer in sharp turns as you'd need to transition into a circlejump and lose speed as a result since you can't exactly turn with said physics. Now some other champions just have the forks of vq3 added way back in the day. Anarki and Sorlag operate on CPMA physics which is this weird hybrid of Q1 and Q2/Q3 physics. Airstrafing is not exactly the best acceleration method in itself since regular strafejumping is always faster, but you can actually turn. It's still nowhere near the level of air control you have in Q1 and HL1 but still important. You even have much snappier acceleration. CPMA's sheer potential is very likely the main reason speed caps exist and why most of the fast champions are using some form of vq3 and not CPMA. You can actually see the difference if you look at Q3/QL tournaments vs Q3 CPMA ones. As for Strogg and Slash? That's still vq3 for the most part but with the quirk of Q4. Crouchsliding is very funny because it's quite literally "slick" on demand. Think of it as removing all ground friction for a limited time. The big difference is that Strogg's slide is a vq3 slide much like Q4. This means you use slides for turning a bit better, which allows you to maintain more speed in slight turns that couldn't normally be done in vq3. Slash gets the CPMA slide, which is optimally done through the same inputs as airstrafing for whatever vector math reason. While Strogg uses slides for fine tuning, Slash slides for pure gremlin high speed turning beyond Anarki levels, but only during the slide itself. The other movement techniques like Nyx's walljumps and Doom's double jumps are more of tacked on mobility rather than a true extension of playing with the physics. Honestly it feels like QC is a good tribute to the mistakes that led to what might be the foundation of most complex movement in FPSes. Shame that its initial release was scuffed and drowned by shinier competitors. It did make the devs way less prone to being forced to add predatory garbage but it came at the cost of not exactly obtaining a large enough audience.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
This is a really cool in-depth look at the movement, I love the legacy that it left behind as well, most of my favorite games were made using the same physics as Quake.
@ILoveAerowalk
@ILoveAerowalk 14 күн бұрын
Fake CPMA movement >:(
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
@@plswhy Every movement style used in Q3 is a nerfed version of what it's based on. Especially the CPM champs. Also the complete black of QuakeWorld movement and speed caps is just insulting.
@plswhy
@plswhy 14 күн бұрын
@@beanwithbacon I kinda find the significantly stronger linear acceleration combined with snapzone manipulation to be interesting enough on its own that I can't fully consider it nerfed or worse than Q1/QW (yes I know that Q1 has power bunnies for optimal movement and QW doesn't need them) movement. I kinda get why people prefer the id Tech 1 movement style though. The ability to gain speed at the same rate regardless of direction and in the tightest corners does flow really well for the average MP map design. Hell let's add in the really strange FPS-dependent movement tech of Q2 in there cause that's some alien stuff right there even if it's technically the same as vq3 all things considered. Speed caps on the other hand I do find to be a limiting design. A lot of them end up too low for the actual speed one can achieve from optimal movement. A relatively competent circlejumper can reach 500 ups in a single jump in all Quake games so you can just reach top speed in QC in so little jumps. I kinda prefer the way Q1 has a soft cap for circlejump acceleration all thanks to the physics limitations alone. 600 ups on Q1 physics is impossible without power bunnies for example. I'm relatively curious as to whether QC will ever let someone have that kind of movement, as to have it literally requires changing a mere 2 variables for each movement key.
@Go_Coup
@Go_Coup 16 күн бұрын
Generally speaking, there seems to be two type of people: 1- can take losing often while learning and love Quake 2- can't take losing often while learning and don't love Quake Once you understand how the skill-based movement works, the campaigns are even more enjoyable.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
100%
@QuakeDude74
@QuakeDude74 14 күн бұрын
I was born in 2008 and quake is probably one of my favorite games of all time
@RobertFletcherOBE
@RobertFletcherOBE 10 күн бұрын
This is awesome, I'm an 80s kid who grew up with out of date hardware and played a load of awesome old games. Nice to see you keeping the tradition going
@WeCareAlot4693
@WeCareAlot4693 10 күн бұрын
as long as there's players like you, Quake will never die
@sosafnot
@sosafnot 17 күн бұрын
As a day one gen z (born in 97), Quake 2 on the N64 was my lifeblood back then. Being a fan of the series since the early 2000s felt so unique just cause nobody in my school played the games aside my own brothers but they were Goldeneye fans more than Quake 2 one so I was pretty alienated. After a decade of so, I finally got try Quake 1 and 2 on PC and fell in love with them both, especially Quake 2. I wouldnt get into the arena part of the game until Quake Live came to Steam. The learning curve was huge as I only knew basic rocket jumping from Team Fortress 2. It was faster than TF2 but the freedom felt so good once you became competent. I wouldnt hear about QC until 2019 when it went Free 2 Play. It was kinda glitchy back then, didnt help my PC was a non-gaming one. But it felt like I never left Quake Live, the Champion system was unique and I wish we had gotten more (feels bad being in a Hunter-less world) but the tightness and movement felt solid. Sucks knowing the game is basically abandonded now and will likely be niche forever, but Im glad there is still a fan base and that people like Gianni (the famous voice actor for many Boomer Shooters) keeps the game alive with Fraggy Fridays. God bless his soul.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
That's an awesome story, Quake Champs actually still gets regular balance and map updates and the Quake Pro League still happens every year, got a new map a few months back too, Egypt themed which is interesting
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
@@sosafnot Quake 2 ruined Quake forever.
@sosafnot
@sosafnot 14 күн бұрын
@@beanwithbacon A wise man never speaks ill of Quake 2. 🤫
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 11 күн бұрын
Quake II is one of my all-time favorite FPS games. The soundtrack alone is heaven.
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 11 күн бұрын
@@sosafnot People that truly know Quake speak ill of it all the time. Arguably the greatest Quaker to ever live, Milton, never made the switch. The railgun ruined Quake forever...
@blu2th1000
@blu2th1000 16 күн бұрын
'03 baby here. i also just started playing Quake, granted a bit later and swapped between live and champions often. for those looking to get into QL or QC, there's still communities throughout both in most regions, with EU being more active than NA. if you do hop into QL, come play some Freeze Tag to get a feel for everything. Or if you want to go through trial by fire, play CA or Duel. if you want to try a quake experience without dropping the money, QC does a great job, but only pops at certain times of days. I promise once you find your flow, nothing can replace the feel of Quake.
@canidmad
@canidmad 16 күн бұрын
@@blu2th1000 YOU
@Tac_3D
@Tac_3D 12 күн бұрын
What shooters are Zoomers mostly playing these days?
@blu2th1000
@blu2th1000 12 күн бұрын
@@Tac_3D valorant, cs2, siege, tarkov, etc. a lot more boots on the ground shooters instead of arena.
@lekolega
@lekolega 16 күн бұрын
fun video! keep having fun playing 😊 quake also has a super high skill ceiling and as you get better it only gets more interesting because of many reasons. you start to understand people's dodge patterns, how differently they approach the game, which champions they prefer to play, what weapon they base their game on, which positions they take when they are plusbacking, how frequently and how creatively they use their champ's abilities. i always loved the aspect of play the player, not the map, even though it is not always the best approach if you wanna win consistently. all in all, i have found this amount of depth only in quake multiplayer. even though i am sure other games also have depth to them, quake has been my go to ever since about 2015 or so, and nothing has really been able to top it. too bad it's dying out. i just hope it is replaced by something that offers a similar quality experience. wishful thinking 😢
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Thanks! hopefully the Quake 6 hint microsoft gave ends up being true
@xstephxx
@xstephxx 17 күн бұрын
Love this video. I can feel your excitement! Gotta say this is probably one of favorite videos already about qc just for that alone.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! This means a lot!
@kIviVwB
@kIviVwB 10 күн бұрын
Amazing to hear new ppl coming in! I have a big anxiety playing 1v1 / ranked. Let me know if you need one more person haha
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 10 күн бұрын
you are most welcome to come and join in, we are doing game nights in my Discord now and will be doing Quake Champions this weekend‚ feel free to join in :)
@jacksheldon8566
@jacksheldon8566 15 күн бұрын
You have to try QCDE. Basically UT and QC bundled into a doom2 mod. Tons of maps, tons of characters and both UT and QC weapons set and move set. And it has both a solo campaign and solo/coop pve maps with quake and doom monsters.
@dominiccasts
@dominiccasts 15 күн бұрын
I'm not even sure I'd call it a mod at this point, seeing how much work has been done down to the engine level (forking the sourceport, no less). Absolutely agree with recommending it, though.
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
It plays a hell of a lot better than the trash Willits gave us too.
@serialgamersvault
@serialgamersvault 14 күн бұрын
Hell yeah glad to see young fellas enjoying Quake ! ^^ I hope to see fast paced arena shooters make a come back ! So much to learn when you play these games, it's rewarding even if hard at first.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
You and me both!
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 11 күн бұрын
With the boomer shooter genre in full swing, it's only inevitable that someone will make a retro arena shooter in the style of UT or Q3. And when they do, the original giants will have incentive to re-enter the genre. Or at least put the old UT's back up digitally.
@GroinMischief
@GroinMischief 15 күн бұрын
You might enjoy a free game called Xonotic, it's not on steam but installing is pretty much just extracting zip and play. It's a mod made from a Quake 1 fork engine. Really fast gameplay (anarki movement on steroids), weapons have alt fire modes like in Unreal Tournament and mega armor/healths spawn 30s as well.
@johnsmith8055
@johnsmith8055 13 күн бұрын
In 2002-2003 i played Quake 2 and 3 for the first time (millenial here). Has been interested in the fate of this series ever since. I'm glad that someone still plays it.
@chloewebb5526
@chloewebb5526 11 күн бұрын
As someone who still makes and plays maps in Quake 1&2 consistently since release, I'm loving hearing new people getting into any Quake game. Personally, I love playing maps in Quake 1 that go beyond anything imagined in 96 - like the Arcane Dimensions pak
@Tomislavgaming
@Tomislavgaming 17 күн бұрын
Fun looking at new people playing quake, good luck with your quake journey Also hugely recommended other arena shooters like quake live or team fortress 2 My favourites are deathmatch classic and ricochet
@AlphaGarg
@AlphaGarg 17 күн бұрын
TF2 is mostly not really an arena shooter, unless you're playing KOTH or something. But it does share a lot of the Quake DNA thanks to it being the sequel to a Quake 1 mod. There's also the TF2 Classic mod, which *is* a lot more arena shooter-y. DmC is just Quake 1 in GoldSrc, I say just play Quake 1 itself instead lol especially since it'll have the same lovecraftian feel as QC does, just lower fidelity.
@Tomislavgaming
@Tomislavgaming 17 күн бұрын
@ man why you out here hating on my fav games bro. First of all: tf2 is an arena shooter, while it is the most different arena shooter there is, it still is an arena shooter with an emphasis on movement. Secondly: yes dmc is like quake 1 but so is every other quake game, you can also say that quake 2 is just quake 1 yet you play quake 2 for what it did a little differently in the engine And lastly: the fact you had nothing negative to say about ricochet means it’s totally the best arena shooter ever
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
Thanks! I actually do own quake live but thats a different ball game to Champions, might give it a go again sometime
@--Lam
@--Lam 17 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays QL is the same ball game, what do you mean :) Other than not having champions, the movement is the same (actually QL physics are fixed compared to what QC ended up with!), weapons the same (everyone gets nades, too!). For duels (which you, for some reason, like), of course QL has "harder" timing (mega respawns after 35, red after 25 seconds), which is stupid... of course after a while, you don't even think about it, you just have a table in your brain (like 17→42/52, I didn't have to calculate anything to write that, I just know it, like a language). If it didn't look like it's 1999 (which is when that game and engine actually came out), I'm sure you'd treat QL differently. Which of course makes us "boomers" (no actual boomers play "boomer shooters", but let's go with it :D) happy that QC, otherwise a failed QL sequel, managed to attract at least a single zoomer! ;)
@ZZ-hb1ho
@ZZ-hb1ho 17 күн бұрын
@Tomislavgamingbro tf2 is a great game but it’s hardly an arena shooter. Halo shares more in common with classic arena shooters than tf2 does and even calling that an arena shooter is a massive stretch.
@milosmisic89
@milosmisic89 15 күн бұрын
I mean I grew up with quake 3 and ut2004 so a lot of things there are second nature to me but I get how it can be daunting to someone who grew up on cod or something slower like ct. You just gotta remember few things, always move, know your weapons, know the map really well, the spawns, and learn the "flow of the maps
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 11 күн бұрын
Very rarely do you come across comparisons where CoD is not considered fast-paced or arcadey. Coincidentally, CoD's multiplayer basically began by borrowing from Quake III, quite literally. The original Call of Duty ran on Quake III's engine, and every game since until 2019 used a modified version of it.
@Hyacsho
@Hyacsho 9 күн бұрын
GLORIOUS! FRESH MEAT! Welcome to the club you've been in for ages :D Glad to have found your channel.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 9 күн бұрын
Athank you very much XD
@homonihil823
@homonihil823 14 күн бұрын
Sounds like your average Quake learning experience to me. It took me 3 years of nearly daily practice before I started to consider myself a decent player and could hold my own against most players on public servers. I don't duel at all, so I don't think I'm particularly good. I find it too stressful with everything hanging from my full concentration and smallest mistakes. Also, being 40+ years with a small child, I don't have any desire to git gud. Back in the day I played some Quake 1 and 2 with friends at lan parties and some Quake Live and Rocket Arena when I was a student so I knew what I was getting into with QC but it felt like I was a complete novice. For the longest time I didn't have a decent landline but after getting access to that again I made a decision to learn Quake. First year I pretty much just got beaten constantly and had to consciously decide to hop on servers and stick to it. After learning the maps and, like you said, putting more thought into the game from Pro League concepts, three years later in early -24 I noticed how I could just annihilate noobs even in 1v2 situations and hit triple rails, so I proclaimed to be a decent Quaker. It was really fun to see how I could consistently beat some players I remember had consistently beaten me at first. I think Quake demands more dedication to even have fun than any other game I know but after it clicks there's nothing like it.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
heck yeah! welcome to the finally-got-decent club!
@turnerrosser5191
@turnerrosser5191 14 күн бұрын
You should try Midnight Guns
@Tehstroyer
@Tehstroyer 15 күн бұрын
Nice to see younger players getting into the series. I haven't played QC in ages (mostly due to performance and connection issues, but also I am much more of an SP gamer), but for a good while it was my zen game - I loaded it up, picked Anarki and just vibed flying around the map, shooting stuff and sometimes even hitting it (heh) in pub DM/TDM. A more competitive friend of mine with more MP experience with the series ended up disliking it and going back to QL after a few years, but a casual like me was still fine with it. I know you mentioned Q1 SP (still my fav FPS) and a bit of QL, but if you're into MP you owe yourself trying the previous games in MP as well, since they're all distinct flavors. If you liked Anarki and Sorlag, you might want to try the CPMA mod they're based on, or Reflex Arena - which was basically a standalone version of that from at least some of the devs of said mod. Sadly, the latter never picked up, but if you're willing to organize matches with your buddies, you should be able to spend a few hours having fun with it. It also has decent amount of Race maps that might give you some fun even playing alone. Which leads me to Defrag - a Q3 mod that's all about movement. If that's what you like in Quake, you should at least try it. Race modes in Quake Live and Reflex both are direct descendants of it - with the former being IIRC based on mostly original Q3 movement and the latter being based on CPMA (the mod allows you to pick either).
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
thanks, will definitely get to more of the previous entries at some point
@CameramanJumJum
@CameramanJumJum 16 күн бұрын
This was a great video, love to hear the thoughts of someone fresh coming into the genre. Thats what is frustrating about ID and Quake they did so many things poorly about Quake Champions its almost like they wanted Quake to fail, but the core gameplay is still there and its addictive. I just wish it was on a better engine and supported by passionate devs, not abandoned by greedy publisher and then maintained by a passionate skeleton maintenance crew. New player experience is not great. No tutorials, no decent bots to practice against. QC just throws you into the deep end I think a lot of old Quake players forget we had an easier learning curve since we all started at the same time and the playerbase was larger because it was one of THE great FPS games of their time. I feel really unfair and shitty against new players in my lobbies but at the same time... its not my fault? No server browser and only matchmaking its out of my control, I can't even vote for shuffle or rebalancing teams. You and your mate got lucky that you get to experience it the way its meant to be played, just fragging and having fun! The game is at its peak no matter your skill level as long as you play against someone at your skill level. Loved it! (only feedback about the video I gotta mention is that when you cut to the match to hear you and your friend talk the volume is a lot lower than the rest of the video, had to turn it up to hear what you two were saying)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 15 күн бұрын
I definitely hope microsoft decides to get a Quake 6 going, since they count Champs as Quake 5 I believe. I'm glad you liked the video! Will make cuts to gameplay louder going forward, Thanks for the feedback
@singular9
@singular9 14 күн бұрын
Millennial here. Welcome to the game I put away a long time ago. Back in the day we would boot up quake 2 and later quake 3 on our school PC's from flash drives and connect over lan on break to duke it out before going back home and finding people to play with via IRC and MSN Messenger (what a time). We were cracked. This is the only game we played because at the time the idea of "multiplayer" was nuts in general. Remember, this was like 1998-2002. Then of course a free multiplayer game came out that pretty much everyone our age jumped on, RUNESCAPE. Yeah we played that a lot from like 2002 to 2013 with the EOC update that pretty much broke how the game worked and we no longer wanted to. Through out there time there was this little game called Counter Strike. yeah, only the greatest shooter of all time other than quake lmfao. And when CSGO came out in 2013 we pretty much hopped on there. But you know what pretty much made that multiplayer addiction huge? Quake. The idea of going against someone else. The competition. It was a lot of fun. Especially when the school let us host a small tournament. THIS WAS MIDDLE SCHOOL. They let us do stuff like that back then. Mad respect to zoomers who are willing to try quake, runescape, cs, etc. The old games really had something new games don't. I literally go back and play them even though I don't want to because its so damn hard to just find good, simple, satisfying yet hard to master games.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
thanks so much! thats insane that your middle school was letting you guys do quake tourneys, i'm actually surprised that esports aren't a thing in schools yet, its been like two decades already.
@bance4678
@bance4678 17 күн бұрын
Another 2003 Quake player here. I’m shocked to see another zoomer plays this game :)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
Why hello there :) I've met a couple now, enough to start a small club
@bance4678
@bance4678 17 күн бұрын
That’s so neat. I mostly play quakeworld so that’s definitely why I don’t encounter any young people but I do enjoy some champions as well. Always trying to convince my peers to try the game out but it’s been an uphill battle lol.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
100%, if you ever want to play theres some younger people like us in my Discord server, no pressure to join of course, but if you ever need it the link is in the description of all my recent vids
@rizs1995
@rizs1995 16 күн бұрын
Im late 95 ( so technically millenial, but i dont feel like i fit this) i have around 1000 hour in QC, and I often meet people in their early twenties (mostly play DM/TDM, in EU servers) :)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
@rizs1995 awesome to know there's more people on the EU servers, will try switching to those sometime I think
@expertguy101
@expertguy101 12 күн бұрын
I had no clue quake was still around . I loved it
@AlexDaDermahurr
@AlexDaDermahurr 14 күн бұрын
i love gt2 on my ps1, and i just started playing 1996 quake on my pc using dosbox 😂
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
heck yeah
@AlexDaDermahurr
@AlexDaDermahurr 13 күн бұрын
btw I'm a zoomer as well
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
@@AlexDaDermahurr welcome fellow young person!
@dhoffnun
@dhoffnun 16 күн бұрын
Boomer Shooters: not just for boomers 👍 The mechanical simplicity is deceptive, and hides a stratospheric skill ceiling. I've sucked at these for something like 30 years, and I'm still having fun with them. Glad to see the party keep on rolling.
@CathGiolla
@CathGiolla 14 күн бұрын
I think a higher fov and more consistent strafing would give you a better chance against your buddy. An aggressive playstyle requires higher awareness and faster speed to make up for giving up on map resources, basically you have to hit unexpectedly and hit nearly the twice as your opponent, which is possible to do as you are (likely) taking unusual routes and angles, like punishing a red armour pickup with two consecutive rail hits to put yourself on a distinct advantage for example. Glad to see more ppl playing, I joined around 2019 as a zoomer myself but tbf I always loved quake and doom. Since my first time I changed a lot, and overall do a lot better in every single FPS game I play. SO QC was like an aimtrainer and skilltrainer to me
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
Yeah I used to do higher fov but I found that my aim sucked more the higher it went, but thinking about it it does make sense to increase it. Quake is definitely a great aim trainer. I found that a good aim trainer for Quake Champions is Titanfall 2, since theres super fast movement in there you have a couple of seconds before someone disappears
@DodgyDaveGTX
@DodgyDaveGTX 11 күн бұрын
Your Quake journey mirrors a lot of my own ongoing journey with chess. Picked it up, constantly losing against everyone I play, but sticking with it nonetheless: a good game is one that allows you to learn despite consistent losses, and the joy required for persistence comes from the learning aspect IMO - otherwise why would you keep playing if you never experience the dopamine reward from success? Anyway, found a small community of people who are (literal) leagues ahead of me, who noticed my passion for the game and graciously took the time to teach everything from seemingly-obvious fundamentals, to the finer nuances of the game. I don't think it'd be wrong to say that a shooter like Quake mirrors a game like chess with an incredibly high skill-ceiling. It seems like it was a long journey for you but good on you for sticking with it and recognising delayed, long-term gratification of honing your skillset is often more rewarding than the short-term dopamine spikes of quick successes. 👍 (I still suck at chess, but I can see growth, and I suck at it _way_ less than I do at high-intensity competitive shooters lol)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 11 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for the encouragement, its such a cool parallel between our stories with these different games :D
@slumcore3921
@slumcore3921 17 күн бұрын
Glad to see people hopping into older style shooters! If you enjoy the movement aspect of quake you might want to look into Tribes Equally niche brutal game but with a very welcoming community that sets up nightly play sessions in discord 😁
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
I tried out the early access for the new tribes game, aiming is an insane feat in that game, might give it a go when it officially launches
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 16 күн бұрын
Tribes is way more "extreme" than Quake ever was IMO. Quake had the sense to hide it's movement behind something like a "sprint" function. Tribes, though... I truly do think the modern Tribes community is too kind to flag runners. Today it's literally a game of either being a runner and just learning maps well enough to have entry speed, or being a blocker and learning maps well enough to know where the runner will be and nailing them anyways. Over and over again. It kinda feels like a sunk cost fallacy thing where the people who got REALLY good at skeet shooting just kept refining the game into a showcase of their skill of clicking really far ahead of someone, at the expense of everything else that made Tribes fun back in the day.
@attractivegd9531
@attractivegd9531 14 күн бұрын
Very well made video, good stuff! Had similar experiences with 2 IRL friends.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Roge9
@Roge9 15 күн бұрын
the multiple characters doing different things activates my fighting game neurons. I'm sure boomers hate it though cuz it wasn't the norm back then for arena FPS's lol. Shame arena shooters aren't as popular these days and many have moved on to hero shooters or battle royales.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 15 күн бұрын
It does indeed feel a tiny bit fighting gamey, the high skill ceiling can be very rough for more casual gamers I think, which is why modern hero shooters are more attractive for some
@Timic83tc
@Timic83tc 17 күн бұрын
QC is great just needed a server browser.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
That would be nice
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 16 күн бұрын
A server browser, not kicking you out after each match, and being on an engine that runs smoothly.
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
If they would just release a server client...
@ZoMiLeTHIRD
@ZoMiLeTHIRD 17 күн бұрын
i started playing quake in school during the lockdowns. I picked up quake live and quake champions and i wish it were more popular, i love quake
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
nothing comes close to the experience it offers
@dev_vg
@dev_vg 12 күн бұрын
Today, I learned I am a zoomer. Thanks for fucking my weekend up.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 12 күн бұрын
my pleasure :P
@stellanFPS
@stellanFPS 17 күн бұрын
I’m born in 2007 and I’m loving quake live and champions, already gave 300 hours in each of the games respectively.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
ayo welcome to the club!
@johngreen2468
@johngreen2468 15 күн бұрын
you said Ranger can telefrag with orb if u dont it correctly - i dont think its true anymore? you can SOMETIMES do it depending on the hp of the enemy IIRC so its not like orb itself can always telefrag, but it just deals huge damage that sometimes can mean telefrag
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
I telefragged someone with full map control and items the other day on spawn, so def still possible!
@willt182
@willt182 10 күн бұрын
I played a couple quake engine games without knowing until several years ago. Iron Grip: Warlord and CoD 2003 both ID Tech 3. It's crazy, I'm only a year older than CoD. Off-tangent but I also discovered C&C through an internet cafe, it had Red Alert 2 with a weird mod, so glad that happened.
@aaron5364
@aaron5364 17 күн бұрын
GET OFF MY LAWN YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPER! Nah...for real though, WELCOME! Enjoy the quality old games. While you're at it, try out Unreal Tournament 4 using the UT4UU custom servers. Not many of us left, but dang do we have a good time fraggin.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Thanks :D been wanting to try out Unreal for a while now too
@aaron5364
@aaron5364 16 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays If and when you end up trying it out, please hit me up! I would be delighted to guide you through setup and show you the ropes :)
@somethingoflessvalue
@somethingoflessvalue 17 күн бұрын
Happy to see other fellow zoomers play quake! i was born also in 2003 and quake was part of my childhood thanks to my older brothers, to this day i still play sometimes :)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Older family members always manage to keep some gems around for us I feel :D
@WDkuru
@WDkuru 12 күн бұрын
We just started hosting a custom lobby for players of all skill levels. Mostly duels in a king of the hill sorta style but everyone gets to play multiple times. It's usually around 8pm EST. We're mostly NA but anyone who wants to play can join, that includes you Jaybyrde! Fo5cho or I (kuru_tc) will be streaming it on twitch, feel free to come say hi and/or join in!
@mikefulli
@mikefulli 16 күн бұрын
Take a look into "Quake Done Quickest 2" and Quake 1 speedrunning in general. The movement can be pushed so far beyond what is possible in consistency limits required for multiplayer.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 15 күн бұрын
Quake speedrunning is definitely on another level
@mikefulli
@mikefulli 15 күн бұрын
It would also be interesting to see how well what you have learned in modern Quake would translate to playing Quake 1/Quake World multiplayer.
@neomuler4958
@neomuler4958 12 күн бұрын
Born in 1998 here, dicover quake 3 at 13 and played occasionally. I joinned Quake Champions because i got a new pc setup and good connection and i enjoy it a lot , i play with my brother (2002) sometimes and its very great. I think Quake is a LAN game, because joinning a game with overplayed/old player is hard and more enjoyable with people. I never do LAN with stranger (just when i discover Q3 in cybercafe with my grandbrther) and i think i would like to playing in LAN jsut for fun , i miss it with the feeling that i never did one
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 11 күн бұрын
LAN games hit different for sure, its not quite the same but we are doing game nights on my discord server and will be playing quake initially, if you want to join in the link is in the description :)
@sharpiefps7630
@sharpiefps7630 16 күн бұрын
Quake Champions: DOOM Edition
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 15 күн бұрын
heard of this one a few times now, will def look into it
@nosville22
@nosville22 16 күн бұрын
2 years older than you. My first exposure to Quake was Quake Live back when that was free. Got more into it due to a friend who gifted me Champions in 2018. Playing it a lot less now though, the leader's advantage is something I dislike quite a bit and it's basically the qualifier for entry into the series. I remember early on, I was s god at close ranged rails, then I got too tense. Turns out I can still do it right when I come back, no longer caring.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
hehe yeah the leader's advantage is a challenge for sure
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
Railgun ruined Quake forever.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
when was it introduced?
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays Quake 2
@Neovirus_channel
@Neovirus_channel 16 күн бұрын
Nice video! I have noticed you mentioned that you have to move mouse slowly to gain speed even for usual champions like ranger. This is not true for these champions (but it is true for air control) and this is what you probably lack in terms of movement. You indeed move it slowly and for a too narrow angle sometimes and so you do not gain all the speed you can, which was kinda obvious even from the beginning of the video. The only thing that matters is angle and time you've spent in this angle. By reaching perfect angle slowly you reduce the time you've spent in this angle, therefore you don't gain all the speed you can. There are enough tutorials, which I'm sure you've watched already, but I recommend watching some VQ3 defrag strafe jumping ones. There is HUD option there which shows these angles and you can notice players are trying to switch between these angles as fast as possible.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
appreciate the tips! will definitely have to practice that now that i'm aware of it
@VonSlakken
@VonSlakken 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the candid look. I am friends with a number of zoomers (me born in 93), and I am always looking to understand all the generational gaps that prevent them from giving Quake a fair shake. I love Quake, and duel. I have to admit, I think Quake Champions is by far the worst entry in the series, but I understand we all get introduced to things at different times and I’m happy to see someone enjoying QC. I have helped a few zoomers find their footing in duel, but it usually doesn’t stick for them due to the punishing nature, and that it can be challenging at times to find others of similar skill level when this game has such an expansive skill gap. I mostly play QL, but I’d be happy to help teach you what I know, though I am in NA so realistically, the ping would be rocky. Anyway, thanks for the vid. And welcome to the ‘waiting for the next short-lived revival of quake afps club’. :)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Yo that's awesome of you! I have a Discord that seems to be getting some Quake players in my generation in it too. Glad to be part of the next short-lived revival of quake afps club’ XD
@augmented2nd666
@augmented2nd666 16 күн бұрын
I love Quake. I started playing it in 96 when its came out, had the shareware version then got the full thing with the NIN Trent Reznor soundtrack, it was good, played it on heat and gamespy, played OG team fortress before it became a standalone game and was just a mod. Bypassed Quake 2 entirely, for some reason I didnt know it had come out, I was like only single digits still as I was born in 87 making me an elder Millenial, and probably a bit young to have started on Doom. 1999 changed everything, I got Quake 3 arena and played it for many many years, its been the only FPS game I ever played since then really, every other FPS game I've ever tried is just terrible to me, the movement really kills other games. I didnt have console, so the kids at school were all going on about first Goldeneye64 (tried it at a friends house, hated it, slowest movement ever, no jump, horrible controller and aim) and then kids were going on about Halo and Unreal, (finally tried those, both felt terrible too, Halo is like Goldeneye physics-wise at least to me, like walking through mud or sand). I played Quake 3 Excessiveplus almost exclusively once I tried E+ a few times, prior to that I really like Instagib and always felt Instagib duels were the peak of duel, its just raw aim and reaction time. Quake Live came out at some point and I tried it but the browser based QL felt rough compared to Quake 3 especially with Excessive plus' optimizations of the base game. So I continued with E+ for a long time, but eventually the community got stale, and very very biased against North American players. Basically anyone from North America or for that matter not Europe and Russia, that had good aim was deemed a cheater and ostracized from the community. I got tired of that, as I had semi decent aim and was put through the cheat accusation grinder, while also many of my friends from North America started quitting altogether. I eventually took a long break, got into drinking, almost died several times from it, whatever, trash life story stuff. I survived and quit drinking a couple years ago, and decided I wanted to play the new Quake Champions game, well new to me, its been out for a while, but I never had a gaming PC, only hand me down government office PC write offs from my dad who was a systems analyst for our Canadian Gov, anyways, got a lame laptop because I'm dumb and didnt know anything about graphics cards except that RTX was supposed to be good, got underpowered RTX3050ti laptop, non upgradable, something else I didnt know, and have been playing Quake Champions ever since. I love Quake champions despite its dwindling playerbase and lack of quality of life measures. We have a known cheater problem, which reporting doesnt really deal with too well, as he just makes difference accounts with a similar naming convention, usually a series of characters scrambled such as "IlIlIlIlIlI" or "o0o0o0o0o0o" or a varient of that. This cheater has actually streamed themself playing complete with cheats on display and I've captured it on my own stream and submitted it to the QC discord and SyncError himself, mostly crickets. I also suggested some ideas, such as allowing for spectator during TDM or regular DM public games (might not be possible due to game engine, although it would help with the follow up to a report where it says to submit evidence, cant really get reliable evidence if you cant spectate them), /callvote kick (Worked well in Quake 3, but QC players in discord whined that good players might be targeted for kick despite not actually cheating) And the final big one is to report odd names would require being able to see/read the odd name while trying to search that player up. As it is currently, when you open the "search player" menu it block the player list from the previous match, in TDM it blocks on of the teams names completely, then when you close the search menu to see the name again because you forgot whether one of the letters is a 0 or an o, you have to retype the whole thing from scratch as its cancelled out. Other than those issues and some latency for hit registry which might just be my underpowered PC, or my own reaction time fading (I'm 37 now, basically a dinosaur), I'd say its a perfect game, nothing else even comes close, I tried Doom Eternal and couldnt stand it, its bloated with too many weapon mods, primary secondary fire, non weapon weapons, single key autoweapon functions, forced mini cutscene animations, unintuitive mechanics, and floaty terrible physics/movement. And then I tried Halo infinite, and it was slow as ever for movement, like playing a COD game or worse, just not fun at all. Quake 1, Quake 3 and Quake Champions are all pretty much the greatest games theres ever been, and hopefully we get another good Quake game soon, although we dont really need one, I could see QC being good for a long time yet, its just dumb how few players there are, I'll never understand how there are millions of people playing League of Legends daily, and only a couple hundred playing Quake, League of Legends looks absolute terrible to me, but I dont like that style of game anyways, might as well play a physical board game or card game, and then theres millions of people watching other people play it which truly makes no sense, a bunch of sheep watching paint dry. Cheers, thanks for the video, sorry for the poorly written essay.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Good job on having quit drinking for two years now! whoop whoop! Thanks for sharing your story, and I'm glad that you liked the video :D
@augmented2nd666
@augmented2nd666 15 күн бұрын
@JaybyrdePlays thanks for reading that dude, please make more videos.
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
I know exactly how you feel when it comes to the movement ruining other games. Most of my friends were all console as well and thought Goldeneye and Halo were like the second coming. I thought Halo CE was a 3 year old Quake 2 that played like shit the first time I saw it. The FPS genre just can't work with a controller.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
Of course! I try to read everything that gets posted, and I'll keep making videos until I die. :D
@augmented2nd666
@augmented2nd666 14 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays Not sure your region, but add up for a game sometime, my in game name is just Augmented2nd
@radicalcentrist4990
@radicalcentrist4990 11 күн бұрын
Unreal Tournament 2004 was a game that I played quite a bit as a kid, it still is my favorite arena shooter. It's a dead series now but Unreal Tournament games have quite a lot of single player content and a lot more game modes, that's why I always prefered Unreal over Quake. But still, Quake 3 has to be tried if you're getting into the series, that is THE Quake game.
@orange-os7nh
@orange-os7nh 14 күн бұрын
I'm surprised QC isn't more popular. It seems like they did everything they could to make it appealing to the modern esports crowd but they just didn't bite.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
yeah, if i recall correctly on launch they had duels locked behind a paywall or a season pass, so you had to pay to access the esport game mode, and it didn't gel over well with a lot of people, thats what I heard anyways
@willworkforfood7028
@willworkforfood7028 13 күн бұрын
3:10 "RTS" is an Eldritch speech. Its kinda cute to see zoomers learn old things. That said my generation;s usage of aconyms sometimes did get eldritch. For example "BW TvZ 4pool vs. 2Rax = T GG" makes some sense in Starcraft.
@squirrelz6117
@squirrelz6117 16 күн бұрын
I am about to pick up QC duel, but coming from QL duel I think this game does in fact feel impure. Not sure if it's the slower movement, the weapons or the items. Even the abilities but it seems to all be a bit of a frankenquake oddly enough. You can also one moment hear clearly and the next hear absolutely nothing and have a heart attack. It's all modified and tailored to play based around making sure different champions aren't too weak or strong. Unfortunately that also changes the feel of the gameplay loop quite a bit. I wonder if I can get any good at it.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I'm gonna be playing some matches in my Discord, if you ever want to practice :)
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 16 күн бұрын
Have you ever played Unreal 1 or Unreal Tournament? There are still some players online for the original of each and they're quite a lot of fun too. If you pick up a copy of UT, make sure it's the GOTY edition an includes the ChaosUT mod. Exploding crossbows are a lot of fun. Also, there are some game modes that it comes with, one of which gives everyone a teleporter as their default weapon. The campaign for U1 is a lot of fun too, and if you find the right server you can play the campaign with friends. UT doesn't have a campaign, which is why I suggest both.
@squirrelz6117
@squirrelz6117 16 күн бұрын
Unreal 1 was my first personal online game, and it had it all from a campaign to team deathmatch clans to duels. There was and still is an extensive modding and mapping community. They also now have permission to put both Unreal and UT freeware titles on their OldUnreal forum and have been given the Unreal source code to make patches.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I still gotta play them, but they are def on my list of games to try
@yxp_
@yxp_ Күн бұрын
2003? Same and I fucking loved CPMA and QCDE ever since 2019. Personally not a big fan of real QC but I loved watching the QPL tourneys until it shutdown last year. These days, though, hardly anyone in my friend group wants to play an Arena FPS game with me anymore... 😅
@Superslime64
@Superslime64 17 күн бұрын
Awesome video, started playing QC cause of the bot problem that TF2 had and I wanted to play a game similar. 300 hours in and it's the most fun game I've played.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Heck yeah
@menschenhaiBG
@menschenhaiBG 12 күн бұрын
There is smth with the quake games that they don't die. As John Carmack said, quake is made by best programmers for best players.
@samuelsmith9582
@samuelsmith9582 11 күн бұрын
Losing but continuing to play. Reminds me of me learning to play chess.
@prltqdf9
@prltqdf9 11 күн бұрын
You should add Champions into the video title. I thought this was about the original Quake.
@parasiteeffect9305
@parasiteeffect9305 16 күн бұрын
Try Warfork. It's like Quake Live on steroids.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
It does indeed look like how you described
@AlphaGarg
@AlphaGarg 17 күн бұрын
1:22 Actually, Clutch's namesake lets him gain speed by just holding forward. If you keep moving forward as him for long enough he'll switch to a higher gear and start going faster but with less acceleration, up to I believe a third or fourth gear. It's not really useful at all ever (especially compared to using his dash instead) but it is a thing lol
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
daaang i had no clue, love info like this even if I never use it lol, this also makes me realize I completely forgot to showcase clutch's movement!
@ThannatarGaming
@ThannatarGaming 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for elaborating about your experience with the game! It's one of my favorite franchises, hit me up for some duels if you like!
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
Yo thanks, glad you enjoyed the video, we're having a quake night in my Discord soon, if you are interested :) (game will be QC)
@nafet
@nafet 12 күн бұрын
Where's the channel of your zoomer brother playing starcraft brood war?
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 11 күн бұрын
Here's his KZbin - www.youtube.com/@YTseen21 and his Twitch - www.twitch.tv/ytseen
@nafet
@nafet 11 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays Ai'ight, subbed. Gotta support my brood war brothers. Thanks!
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 11 күн бұрын
@@nafet my pleasure!
@somnvm37
@somnvm37 17 күн бұрын
yay sadly I feel I can't play quake champions on my pc [though maybe If I try] but yeah, this is amazing. I hope there will be more quake related content. I also got into quake as a gen-z (2004), and it's pretty fun though I started with quake 1, played a lot of mods, and now I'm enjoying quake iii, though only singleplayer
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 17 күн бұрын
Not sure what specs you have but I started playing quake with almost potato graphics and it ran well enough to play. Sounds like you got a good head-start on me with Quake, I've definitely got some catching up to do, and will be streaming quake champs frequently
@NF-nv3xw
@NF-nv3xw 17 күн бұрын
Play QCDE. Runs on potato pc with frames to spare. You wont regret it.
@satanspy
@satanspy 14 күн бұрын
This is crazy i didn't think people would log on only to play duel... And i definitely did not know someone would log on only for duels and only with one other person. TDM is the mainstream mode everyone plays. Matter of fact the matchmaker will quicker find 7 other players for TDM than it can find one other player for a duel.
@dev_vg
@dev_vg 12 күн бұрын
For all people who want to try arena fps. You need to bring a friend who is as new as you. You will have the best experience that way. Otherwise, you will get stomped repeatedly. Its a lot of veterans especially in duel.
@UnchainedEruption
@UnchainedEruption 11 күн бұрын
I mostly just played against the bots in Quake 3. On hard they put up a real good challenge and the a.i. of that game was always remarkably good. Real players may as well have god mode on lol.
@canidmad
@canidmad 17 күн бұрын
great vid to be recommended, 2002 here and i play QL/QC regularly along with other niche shooters
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad that it's good! Always awesome to meet more Zoomer Boomer shooter players :D
@MetalAllDayAllNight
@MetalAllDayAllNight 16 күн бұрын
Bros watched, like, the most exciting match in QPL haha awesome
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
QPL is the only sport I watch haha
@BlurSentinel
@BlurSentinel 16 күн бұрын
Tipp for you: watch some old "Challenge Pro Mode" games. It's even more old school, but these games are intense and VERY awesome to watch.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
will have a look 0.0
@BlurSentinel
@BlurSentinel 15 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays I don't want to convince you to play it, but the mod arQon created back in the days (where the movement of sorlag and anarki comes from) was amazing the level of freedom was epic. Tipp for you: Watch "DeFrag" movies were vq3 (Vanilla Quake 3 movement) and cpm (Challenge Pro Mode movement) is included. The DeFrag world cups are a great source. JUST to watch movement pros.
@beanwithbacon
@beanwithbacon 14 күн бұрын
@@BlurSentinel Also watch QW pro matches. The level of mental play is insane. QCon QW tourney final from 2020 is just nuts
@BlurSentinel
@BlurSentinel 14 күн бұрын
@@beanwithbacon As much as I like the original quake 1, I never played qw and to be honest it is for me VERY hard to follow a qw 1on1. In compareison q3 1on1 was for me more enjoyable than a qw 1on1. The skill for both was enourmous at the time.
@BlurSentinel
@BlurSentinel 14 күн бұрын
@@beanwithbacon Could you please try to add a link to a YT video here? When I search for it, I get rapha vs. raisy stuff, and I don't think you mean QC.
@LowEndPCGamer100
@LowEndPCGamer100 17 күн бұрын
i got into games on older engines growing up thanks to my crappy computer, and internet. to this day i still play ctf with 3zb2 and some friends in quake 2. these old games are more than just games anyways, theyre engines, made to be modified and built onto, no reason to stop playing when the content keeps coming in droves, for free.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
very true
@relhimp
@relhimp 17 күн бұрын
You can't talk about Quake movement and not mention Rocket Jump. C'mon!!!
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I've got a list of things I forgot to include busy growing XD
@SIBquake
@SIBquake 13 күн бұрын
You guys should play Round Duels instead of Timelimit Duel, I think you'd both have even more fun :)
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 13 күн бұрын
we recently gave that one a go and really enjoyed it! was def nice to change things up. I liked the picks and bans as well
@SIBquake
@SIBquake 13 күн бұрын
@@JaybyrdePlays that's awesome! i wish more people played it
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 12 күн бұрын
yeah, same
@DamianC
@DamianC 16 күн бұрын
You need you to bring it back kid!!! Les go!!!!
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 15 күн бұрын
whoop whoop!
@zombine7103
@zombine7103 11 күн бұрын
Bro, i play every old game. I started playing old 2000's FPS games at 2020. I wish i had friends to play these games. I have every best game ever made on my steam. Nobody has time for anything.
@aaronmarko
@aaronmarko 16 күн бұрын
Before watching the vid, I'm hesitant to say much but let me just say that the only important thing is that you have fun.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
agreed, if there's no fun for someone in a game then theres no point in forcing themself to play it. Quake Champs and the original Quake are 11/10 tho
@jonathanperreault4503
@jonathanperreault4503 16 күн бұрын
please please please play this game with keyboard and mouse , playing quake with a controller is a blasphemy to the old gods of gaming
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Oh I absolutely do, I'm pretty sure that there straight up just isn't support for controller, tho i'd like to try jsut to feel how bad it is
@thenickbw
@thenickbw 4 күн бұрын
Love these games. I cut my teeth on q3 in it's heyday. Duel really does play a LOT more like an RTS than most would assume. That's why I loved it, you had so much choice and dynamics in the game mode that you could play is your way depending on your personal strengths and weaknesses & at the end of the day it's still heavily a thinking game more than a cocaine filled twitch shooter. I wish these games were more popular. It's so difficult to play these games casually or get friends into them when the only remaining players are all much better and since the gameplay completely falls apart more than most when there's a significant skill gap. I much prefer quake live over champions but it's hard to recommend paying 10 for it when there's a smaller community that is full of attention starved toxic try hards. Lol DiaboTical is awesome though & FREE. Unfortunately dead but highly recommended if you're playing with friends. Movement is quake like but with an added dodge to allow quick starts and 180s. Even clan arena is much more fun since it added a few new mechanics to it such as increased respawn cool downs so you can die by not immediately stop playing the whole round.
@42ccb
@42ccb 13 күн бұрын
I'm zoomer too, didn't play Quake Champions, only touched Quake 3, when I was 9. But I love to play in single player oldschool shooters as don't have good PC to play more moden games (and according to opinions, they kinda suck), I think I will suck at competitive shooters :/ Recommend you to check out mods for Quake 1 like Arcane Dimensions, Alcaline, Brutalist Jam, Copper Jam, they're fun maps to play on Nightmare. Check out some mods for Doom, like Project Brutality 3.0, it's really an awesome mod, that plays like separate Doom game itself and is compatible with pretty much of community WADs
@Serial_Thriller
@Serial_Thriller 17 күн бұрын
Nice one zoomie. Modernity hasn't completely emasculated you. I've was playing Quake in 1996 and still sometimes play it with DOS emulation. Why not practice with bots? I don't know about Champions, but in the better version of this game, Quake III/Live, the bot matches were pretty good for this. I'd also recommend giving the first Quake a go. The movement/weapons still feel better than almost every recent game and it's on Steam for basically nothing. That's not exaggeration or bias. It's absurd how well they nailed the movement in the first true 3D polygonal game in FPS history, and genuinely embarrassing for modern gaming.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
I practice with bots when I feel like I need to yeah, they made them even more brutal in a recent update by making them prioritise using hitscan weapons like rail, and on nightmare mode they dont miss :D
@MyEconomics101
@MyEconomics101 13 күн бұрын
Quake 3 was my first "main" game/forever game, since release, played till WoW release actively. Bit WC3 aside. Quake Champions is technically a downgrade because it has no mod support (due to technology licencing issues, somebody made a video about it). So no CPMA, Rocket Arena, not Freeze Tag, etc. And no community maps. It's sad. Edit: found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4a1h6GKfaetnck
@handledis
@handledis 14 күн бұрын
Still feeling shit after 1 year of fps it what its about. Then u meet better people and feel even worse dispite being pretty ok already :( once u get good the feeling bad part is a part of fps
@gcavrubio
@gcavrubio 17 күн бұрын
I am glad that you enjoyed the game.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Thanks, me too :D
@KX_OW
@KX_OW 16 күн бұрын
whats your guys ping to EU servers ? if guys wanna join us we run sacrifice games every monday
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
sweet, not sure what the ping is but i've never been one to really complain about it personally, tho I know a lot of the other South African players will play on the EU servers quite often
@PhilipChute
@PhilipChute 16 күн бұрын
check out quake 1 deathmatch, the movement is way better, much more like source engine movement with the bhops. not as big as QC is but still a fair number of players
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation, I might have tried it when I was playing Quake 1
@brysonstewart7504
@brysonstewart7504 15 күн бұрын
Bro this video is almost exactly my experience everyeone one of my friends hate this game and its so hard to find people our age that enjoy. I would love to run some duels or dm if you are down sometime.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 14 күн бұрын
My Discord has a good few Quake people in it, we are gonna have a Quake night soon, feel free to join in if you are interested! (link is in the video description)
@Hyacsho
@Hyacsho 9 күн бұрын
Is this man South African?! Legend.
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 9 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@lukeholloway7836
@lukeholloway7836 8 күн бұрын
You play quake live ?
@JaybyrdePlays
@JaybyrdePlays 8 күн бұрын
i own it but i've only played once or twice
@lukeholloway7836
@lukeholloway7836 7 күн бұрын
@ it’s the only version I play now tend to like it more than champions
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