Constitution Class - Starfleet's 32nd Century - Star Trek: Discovery

[@kineuhansen8629]

not beeing a fan at all of the 32nd century and the starfleet ships and i am not a fan of starfleet just reusing old designs is just annoying

[@lezking5060]

To be fair, I appreciate that they tried to give us ships that were aesthetically different. However, none of them are aesthetically pleasing to me. On some of the ships, the nacelles looked very similar to the Discovery's nacelles (check out the USS Nog, for example)... which makes no sense, in universe, if you think about it. Even if you accepted that they had decided to go for a "retro look" (like they have tried to suggest with the ship designs in Picard 2 and 3)... ...the Discovery was supposed to have been a deeply classified design (and because of what happened to the Glenn, and the fact that the whole Mushroom drive concept was also hidden we can assume it was the whole class that was classified), with no other ships of that class/design in existence... so no "old references" to draw on... making it difficult to then create "retro" designs based on them. I wouldn't have had such a problem with the "detached technology" if it actually made sense, from a technical point of view... but nothing I have read about the "reasons" for it, made any sense.

[@driftbandit4740]

For anyone wondering what are the Blue Stripes on the ship, those are intergraded deflector arrays/thrusters. The way that the arrays are positioned around the ship most likely would generate a Warp like bobble to allow the ship to Maneuver in various directions. I'd imagine before the burn, Starfleet technology devised a way to integrate both the deflector and thrusters as one unit instead of two separate units for shipbuilding cost. As far as the size of the ship, l believe it was made for a much longer deep space exploration housing all the equipment and living spaces of a mobile space station very similar to the Enterprise J first seen on Star Trek Enterprise. Honestly, l prefer the design of the 32nd Century Constitution over the Enterprise J due to it not being so flat and more hull to take a beating. Also, by taking a closer look at the secondary section which looks flat, it clearly illustrates that the top part of the secondary hull which at one time was connected to the primary hull and it own large deflector dish was removed as a refit once Starfleet developed the technology for programmable matter both detached hills and integrated deflector/thrusters imo.

[@joshuahartmann21]

Apparently one of the 32nd century Connies was stranded in a satellite galaxy during the burn if i remember correctly, so definitely long range.

[@KyleKing-vx4by]

LOVE that explanation!👏👍❤️ That makes perfect technological sense 💯😎

[@driftbandit4740]

@@KyleKing-vx4by, Thanks. Always best to be open minded and think logically that just hating on a ship or a series. Discovery isn't perfect while having flaws regardless l still enjoyed the entire series run.

[@CaptainWhitmire]

Lol that’s my extract of the Connie-N. I made the registry texture.

[@SGUDistantHope]

The Trekyards audience thanks you! Hope we did the ship justice with the renders.

[@simonbeech6073]

The ‘detached’ idea was a big part of the failure of the series. If your audience can’t imagine how it ‘would’ work, it’s magic, not technology. If you can’t imagine it working how do children play with it? That’s all your future audience gone and half your family audience. Producers really didn’t understand what they were doing, from preproduction onward.

[@SGUDistantHope]

​@@simonbeech6073 How does kreinum timeship fire a pulse of purple energy which, within seconds causes a wave that erases one timeline to leave way for another, and only affect a small area of space and not all of space and time? Lots of Trek Trek, the fancy'ist is so far out there we cant understand it.

[@TheKeeperoftheCreed]

Honestly that's one of the things that discovery ticks me off about its show is its starship scales.

[@lezking5060]

Q: Is it worthy of the name? A: In a word, NO!

[@PinkApocalypse-w4c]

I'll never understand the logic. Interior spinning discs, windows that face each other, arching, pinched-off necks and pylons, the entire ship spinning sideways, and the absurd rationales to try and justify it all. I understand "young minds, fresh ideas", but every time I try to get back into Trek after leaving years ago (driven away by beer factories and spore drives), it's just more and more absurd. I'm not even annoyed or upset anymore, just legitimately baffled at the continued push with this stuff.

[@randybentley2633]

Three things come to mind with this design: 1. Why, oh why, with all of the glow going on, aren't the letters and numbers glowing as well? 2. The flat portion of the secondary hull's top looks like it would make for a shuttlecraft parking deck with the DS9-style retracting shuttle pads, and said pads could light up to give detail to that flat gray expanse. 3. What if all those strappy lines are the phaser strips...?

[@weirdkitty07]

32nd century ships look like someone raided the office desks at CBS and just thought, oh, that automatic stapler, (the Nog) that's a ship, that pencil sharpener, the paper staple scraper, (Voyager J) that's a ship, and stick some paper punchers, (Connie N nacelles) paper plates, and various tapes and spools to it.

[@Saltybuher]

I suspect that is what happened

[@Area51byDaveReale]

Starfleet was going through it`s artistic "minimalist" stage with ship design. :)

[@lostalone1271]

It looks like JJ collaborated with Tesla to design a ship. The three ring circus is totally warp capable. Too bad all the dilithium exploded. The detached secondary hull is the post burn add-on that allows for alternative propulsion methods.

[@CaptRobertApril]

What the hell is with all those gaps and open spaces? The waste of possible interior room is absolutely unforgivable! And sorry, but detached ship parts is idiotic, especially for a ship going into the unknown. One power failure or the right jamming signal, and you have two ships, named "Enter" and "Prise", both going in opposite directions.

[@valor1omega]

You reminded me of what I basically said when I first seen the romulan ship when it first showed up in front of the D, lol

[@athrunzala6919]

I remember in the 90's NASA did a study on the Enterprise and said it would never happen - inefficient design, too much surface area. This is definitely tooo much surface area for no purpose

[@barrybend7189]

It's mostly fine except for the detached parts. If it had clearly connected parts and a prominent deflector it would have actually been one of the best designs in the future part of the show.

[@canisblack]

I agree. The detached bits and bobs of the "Future Ships" are all really dumb and take designs that might have been decent into bottom of the barrel designs.

[@KevinWebb]

It's possible the 'Tron' like glowing bits are the deflector. Future tech or not, such a complicated system with detached structures would require more power and resources. Good engineers keep it simple.

[@lasarith2]

13:38 I did a scale test on it (STO ) seems to be approximately 1526 meters long . Edit: official size is 1399.82 meters , but Ingame it’s 1526.

[@MarkLLawrence]

So much wasted space! Maybe you could render it with the saucer filled in?

[@AceParty]

I honestly like it, not my fav connie, but I like it, it's probably the best Trek 32 century design. I'm just not a big fan of the ventral section but I like that the ship feels like a floaty space statio, which would make sense in the 32 century.

[@jonathonearl482]

Would have looked so much better without all of those straps.

[@valor1omega]

If they didn't have all that duct tape it would fall apart.

[@MrDecelles]

It does not look good and it looks like something that makes no sense. Having said that. a ship from the far future should look more alien to us. 500 years ago we had a carrack and today an aircraft carrier/submarine!

[@barrybend7189]

I think a familiar design would work if it had unfamiliar aspects. Instead of going for disconnected parts why not shifting almost organic connections. One moment the ship looks like a constitution and Then another it has a configuration similar to the Galaxy class.

[@linz8291]

lol...what if they seen earthling as illegal alien to their advanced galacric civilization.

[@exilestudios9546]

I think it’s a beautiful design my only criticism is it needs color, it needs to be more than just grey with some blue tron lights. Brighten up the hull material, throw in some red and yellow decals ya know really make her pop against the big black.

[@valor1omega]

You think it's a beautiful design? Well I guess not everyone is perfect and your beauty is ugly to normal people, lol

[@fateor3924]

From the close up bottom view it looks like an upsidedown Miranda class.

[@valor1omega]

Don't insult the Miranda.

[@redshirts4ever799]

I like to think that the missing details like phaser strips, or the shuttle bay doors, was due to the programmable matter tech being a thing. It's the 32nd century, anything that far into the future would essentially amount to simply just magic to my mind. I couldnt fathom understanding how technology would even work at that point.

[@bcluett1697]

Roll bar with oval pod invokes USS Europa to me, which fits with a Disco ship. I like it though. I can imagine it's the Galaxy in function with all the stuff on board it would need to explore and defend itself and conduct Starfleet's missions of importance.

[@dreamingsamurai]

Looking at how squat it is, when its upside down, it almost could pass off as a Miranda class homage instead

[@spacethingreckoning5114]

I feel like something I'd love to see from ships of this era is new detailing. I dont have an issue with a lack of RCS thrusters or visible weapons, but like, what about areas for releasing programmable matter, what do those look like? What about emitters for automatic transport/portals between the primary and secondary hull? Stuff like that is what I'd really appreciate. Also, my hot take on this ship specifically is that (if they really wanted to keep a legacy name) it should've been a new Galaxy class. The curves all over the place here invoke the Galaxy a lot more than the Constitution to me.

[@sethmaki1333]

I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan of the goofy structural supports on the primary hull, but I am fascinated by the fact that the primary is disconnected from the engineering hull. It's unfortunate that the latest Connie didn't get more screentime in Disco. Hopefully it'll be seen more often in the upcoming Starfleet Academy series.

[@rogeriodearaujobonito6377]

The only reason for so much internal space would be long trips and prospecting, collecting and storing commodities. This ship would no longer have elevators, only internal teleports, gates, to any other part of the ship.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

The blue things are in fact "deflector strips" and they are also warp capable and slipstream capable. The nacells I believe are part of some experimental drive, like warp but much faster.

[@weirdkitty07]

It looks to me like a coaster inside a Frisbee with a hole in center, grey taped together, and then they stuck some paper hole punches for nacelles on the ends.

[@GeekFilter]

This makes our 32nd century California-class look not quite so silly! Or they are both equally silly 😉

[@tzor]

One of the things that baffles me (and let's ignore the Discovery because it really was a 32nd century refit) is not the detachable parts but rather the implications of personal intra ship transporters on interior spaceship design. You will still need corridors and Jeffery's tubes in case you have system problems, but you don't really need turbolifts or corridors like the wide ones on the old Enterprise D. Still it would have been better without the straps and the saucer be several detached elements.

[@Danno-tl4rp]

It has a star base vibe to it I dig it. I don't mind all the struts if they serve some sort of purpose...

[@Mist3rData]

Very interesting design. I have to get used to things being detached from a ship. To me it looks quite fragile. But besides that it looks very sleek and bad ass. The kind of ship you don not want to mess with.

[@TrentonBennett]

This is definitely one of the better Starfleet 32nd Century ships. I don't mind the Voyager-J either. I have to agree with the Cap that the nacelles just don't speak to me. I also agree if they were turned straight like on the originally Connie Refit or just TOS Connie would be better. I also agree with him that there should be some thing to indicate a neck... I'm one of those people who have never cared for the detachable deals on 32nd Century ships. I just am like "How does this even work?" That's just me though...sorry Cap.

[@jamesforbes5616]

I get how it could work (extradimensional engineering, held in formation by a superforce or something, but there are 2 real problems I have with it. 1) At this point you have three 'ships' just flying in formation... Which idk... Kinda dumb. 2) and this is really the more important of the two... Star Trek had some cool advanced technologies, but something I've noticed about Starfleet engineering - and Geordi points this out to Captain Scott on the D - is that... Starfleet doesn't make anything more complicated than it absolutely NEEDS to be. Now granted maybe they have some new tech in the future that makes all of this pretty failsafe or whatever but... What if the ship looses power? Does whatever energy force that's holding the nacelles (or secondary hull) in place just vanish... And then your warp engines just... Float away? Or if the ship is actually somehow all connected though interdimensional engineering... What if the enemy has weapons specifically designed to... Idk... Collapse those dimensions? Like... It all seems a little bet too... Over engineered and flashy to be ACTUALLY believable.

[@carboncopygokublack2030]

I can see where the saucer section wood separate. The inner circle would probably amount to the size of the saucer section of the original enterprise, and the whole bottom part will drop down and flip over

[@RingandRaven]

I really like the nacelle design splaying open and showing the internals with the white glow (which seems to be lessened here than in the official version though I appreciate this has a better fucking texture), its instantly recognisable but also genuinely original compared to the usual 'box with a glowy stripe'

[@GARYCULLEN-s1v]

I believe the story is that the MIranda design was inspired by a ENTERPRISE model originally being flipped and trimmed down

[@scottgardener]

Although not said anywhere in Discovery, I would certainly accept that these ships have extradimensional interiors. Enterprise has a scene or two that backs that up. That would solve the crazy-huge interior of Discovery's turbolift path in one particular third season episode. I could even accept that someone could be in the saucer section, walk down some long corridors without stepping outside, and then find themselves in the secondary hull portion. Again, not said anywhere in the show, but not contradicted, either.

[@jayew3161]

32nd century ships aren’t my favorite in STO, but the Kirk class is my favorite (design-wise). The art team did a good job on this one.

[@valor1omega]

The art team did not do a good job on this, I seen better ship designs by modders on the retro badger KZbin channel for bridge commander 2(I believe the game is). Heck I seen better designs by modders for star trek fleet command series of games. This design has got to be the most laziest of things I have ever seen.

[@Skippy2k81]

I realized it the strappy bits with the open space with a sharp in the middle kind of reminds me of a squashed goauld mother ship. Not a pyramid at the center but that kind of design around a pyramid. Not as keen as the legacy enterprises but did like it relative to the other 32nd century Starfleet ships and do like it in its own way

[@linz8291]

That Pyramid-shape of mothership to be seen as traditional Sirius b type, unlike the other lighter vessels and flexible transporter around the main Pyramid ship, these mothership networks also are heavy vessel carriers.

[@baystated]

It looks as big as a space station. But they still couldn't align the dorsal registry with the hull curves 10:00.

[@brianswearingin322]

I'd be interested in seeing the K L and M. We gave G so much grief because she is so much smaller than the J. But maybe starfleet did the same and went smaller again.

[@ffnbbq]

Knowing how little time productions give to their art and VFX departments these days (hey, look at Star Trek Picard and the Inquiry), I wonder if Discovery season 3 just surprised their art and VFX teams with the job of designing the distant future of Starfleet in only a few months.

[@seanreed2661]

You guy’s have to remember that 32nd Century ships are made of Programmable Matter. So you don’t necessarily need an actual hanger bay or weapon’s mounts or any of the other stuff you mentioned because they can be applied as needed and on any surface that requires it due to whatever situation is at hand. So the lack of details is more than likely because of that. Again Programmable Matter.

[@ryank5424]

I kinda wonder if in this future SF went with bigger, beefier ships due to reduced numbers?. I feel the design has a lot of promise. And I do love that front view. But I feel it needs some kind of neck and maybe some visible impulse engines. 50/50 on the bands. 🖖

[@lasarith2]

I think if the main hull struts where solid ( filled in ) rather then beams it would look better with a Sovereign type neck .

[@Xalorr]

Where does look that like a Constitution? Like the most ships in DSC it is a generic sifi desing with liiiitle bit Star Trek. Similar to the Orville. What ever the Desingers are think as they create that, it was not "lets make a futuristic version of the most iconic ship in Star trek" The detached nonsense ar only one of many flaws. And in this example are a entire Section is floating free from the rest of the ship. Yepp...realy clever...... or nooooot! Anyway it is DSC and DSC is a worst Idea it self. So this ship fits perfect there. 🤣

[@S1nwar]

16:48 my god this looks like a spacestation from star wars with these tiny windows

[@Optimistprime.]

I have NEVER been a fan of negative space on star ships. This one included. But for some of the 32nd century ships, I can give a lot of leeway. These ships are likely hyper focused on efficiency since dilithium is rare now and tech does change a lot and can look much different. Compared to some of the 32nd century ships, I think this looks ok, but it's not how I would have designed 32nd century ships if I had the chance.

[@linz8291]

Dilithium, Trilithium, Helio-III and the other 300+ rare elements are common materials to quasi-extraction and manufacturing system.

[@unknown9126]

I think it's alright. It shows the old Connie shape, but I was just never a fan of negative space, especially on spaceships.

[@S1nwar]

so the entire Discovery fits into the shuttlebay of this thing^^?

[@spikedpsycho2383]

I like it. Reminds me of Eero Sarrienen

[@valor1omega]

All the love shown by these two makes me wonder if they are being forced by phaser point to say it, lol

[@gorskic]

I almost think there aren’t enough windows maybe? That would make all the external surface area more sensible. Maybe? (I don’t hate the design, though…)

[@vegetac4]

Looks more like a space station

[@brianpeavy1403]

I like it!

[@MrAranton]

Starships consisting of seperated that cannot reach each other without tech kinda represents what the burn did to the Federation. It does however NOT represent what the Federation is - or should be striving to be: a solid union that is stronger the sum of its parts.

[@KleinMeme]

It feels they hired a modern furniture or car artist, instead of someone keen in Sci-Fi, yet Star Trek. And even more so, someone who finished studying it recently, not experienced enough to evolve his own way. It feels forced. Like... "We HAVE to make something different and SUPER futuristic!", with all of these ships.

[@brintonsdad]

The blind LaForge style of nacelles.

[@livingtonu]

I like to think that anything Kurtzman Trek was nothing more than a bad dream a bad fever dream

[@adamlytle2615]

It bums me out that a far future design of this size was done as a background ship with minimal detail. At this scale you could really have fun with domed arboretums. Like the upper surface of that lower pod on the saucer could house a soccer pitch or an american football field. The inner surface of the torus could have stadium seating. Anyway, I hate the way the nacelles flare outward like that. And I think the "rubber band" business around the saucer really just kind of just undercuts the idea of separated sections. I think if you're going to have them connected anyway a more traditional approach would probably work better.

[@rogeriodearaujobonito6377]

Very few development for 900 years . Few development for 100 years too

[@KevinWebb]

Would love to hear whether people think they are starting to overuse the dash-letter on registries. It was meant to be a special exception for one ship. Doing it for Voyager I get. It's beginning to pop up everywhere.

[@fourmula4812]

its humongus

[@wxwxsrg]

It's all very 1960s mid-century modern like the Incredibles house. It's like a bond villain's lair.

[@DragonHEF01]

Cryptic calls it the Kirk-class, so even more unworthy. But, at least my Hood-November is fun to use: many projectile consoles to go with the Buster Pods.

[@nagillim7915]

What if the bridge pod detaches from the pylon and can become an independent ship for away missions?

[@thallus23]

There are some parts I like and others I don't. I need a better understanding of how the ship works! Is the secondary hull habitable or is it just used for warp?

[@brentkeller3826]

I detest the detached pieces. I know, it's supposed to be "oooooh futurey" and all. But from a practical viewpoint: what happens when the power to the fields holding the two bits and bobs together goes out?

[@danielhenzphotography]

I actually quiet like it Also gives me a lot of Halo Forerunner vibes

[@weirdkitty07]

The ships are made by Dunder Miffin. :) The Office. Lol.

[@tadriance9]

The nacelles look like ps5s

[@dreamingsamurai]

Lol. Was just about to say that myself. They do look like elongated PS5s, and also Sony just announced the 30th anniversary version that has a similar gray color 😂

[@kevintran5901]

It makes me wonder if one of those Connies is the Enterprise-whatever alphabet that they are currently in the 32nd century. If G is a Connie-3 then you can bet that the Current Enterprise of the 32nd century is a Connie.

[@nagillim7915]

From the back those nacelles look like they could be dual nacelles on each side.

[@darkguardian1314]

Squidward: Future... Future...Future... I just don't like the generation of ships along with the Enterprise NX generation. Every ship looks like one offs and unrelated.

[@davidleblanc5271]

Matt Jeffries would be turning in his grave if he saw this wannabe Constitution Class Enterprise

[@boombasett6038]

You don't know that. I think it's sweet. It maintains the constitution look.

[@StarZendonna1687]

@@boombasett6038 As do I

[@andrewpyrah]

​@@boombasett6038It's an ok shop. But looks nothing like the original constitution class

[@blairbrown4812]

I've seen some of Matt's wilder designs. Trust me, the *absolute* least it would have gotten from him is "Meh,it's the 32nd century, it works."

[@Mikethemerciless11]

It's an eyesore. It really looks bad for TV.

[@Christian-g9x8h]

I agree fully that the secondary hull should have an arched area right under where the two sections disconnect, I also FULLY agree that the center area of the saucer section needs to be raised by at least 30%!!! It’s also lacking in so much detail!!! For a starship of this magnitude there should be tons of launch/shuttle bays! Escape pods!? Docking ports?! RCS thruster locations?! Phaser banks/strips!? Torpedo launchers!? And most of all I wish the center dome had somewhere designated for the main bridge…perhaps a larger window to indicate the view screen? Where’s the location for ejecting engine cores? It’s an amazing design, but with all that it’s lacking, I get more of a new version of “The Trade Federation Droid Control Ship???!!!” Just like “The Friendship Class Starship” it also lacks the same details, and looks exactly like a newer alternate version of “The Trade Federation Droid Control Ship!…” Anyone else agree?

[@chrismills2439]

the following is a joke and nothing more than a joke of a semi sick mind. at least they did not call it the constipation class. the previous line was a joke and nothing more than a joke from a semi sick mind.

[@laroark5036]

The stripes are deflectors.

[@grahamturner1290]

🖖

[@Reepicheep-1]

Pretty for about 3 seconds. Then it looks absurd. Unless a cargo ship or a carrier, WHY are you leaving massive gaps in your hull?? That's additional deck space, hangar space wasted, need to insulate & armor a ton more surface area. 1 good cutting beam and Connie-N is about 6 ships. Where is a Shadow spider when you need one? 8:55 inver the ship orientation, join the 2 hulls, and it might look good.

[@andrewpyrah]

It looks nothing like the original constitution class. What part looks similar?

[@SignoftheMagi]

I have yet to see a Discovery design that looks...good. in any way.

[@vincebacon4895]

I think the lack of detail here is the point...with programmable matter, surfaces are blank until they need something, then it forms and there is where you get the details.

[@scottysgarage4393]

Life is so much better if one simply ignores everything from the JJverse. Bad fan fiction and nothing more.

[@laroark5036]

How does the separation work ? How does it stop the nacelles and the rest of the ship stay with it ?

[@lasarith2]

Probably some Technobabble of Quantum entanglement.

[@S1nwar]

when ship architecture is this free from physical constraints - then why are the ships not covered in exotic art, individual to each crew to express themselves to show how culturally advanced the federation has become or something. these ships are just dead and white....

[@GuardianSage]

Now that you mention it, it would be neat to see something like that. The only problem is that Starfleet always has and always will be a para military organization.

[@locutus9956]

As with most ships in Discovery.... they look like the designers were trying far far too hard to make things look 'super futuristic' and end up just looking like theres lots of gaps, spidly connections and detached bits for the sake of it rather than for any practical purpose....

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖🤨👎This 32 century Constitution class starship looks like a cross between the Andromeda Ascendant and a Starship thrown and mashed together!🤔?.

[@ThiloAdamitz]

You cannot seriously compare a maglev train with a space ship design that has it's hull component floating freely in space.

[@andyboy2k]

We never saw a future Enterprise on discovery so can we assume the Enterprise was in this class?

[@ShanenWay]

the enterprise got mag wheels...

[@sigbauer9782]

it's god-awful

[@jamesforbes5616]

I dunno... The whole detached thing seems dumb. Its just... Like really all this is... Is Prometheus flying in formation. And then of course you'll need transporters to get around the ship and we all know how often those always screw up even by like DS9 and VOY where they've reached some of the pinnacle of advancement. One of the BEST things about classic Trek ships was this concept of functionality. Never make something more complicated than it NEEDED to be. This is just tossing that out the window.

[@KyleKing-vx4by]

Yes! It's ugly but when Eaglemoss makes it it'll be a Top Seller!🤯😁😍👏👏😵‍💫🤣🤣🤣

[@thribs]

The J still looks more futuristic than it.

[@locutus9956]

As to all the detachable stuff..... it would be fine if they actually made some effort to explain why its a thing but it just seems to be 'cos it looks cool and futurisitic' its not a 'how slipstream drive works' or something or improved warp geometry or anything like that that theyve tried to explain or technoabble its just a a thing and a think that seems like it would have inherent massive downsides. Like the fact that should the tech fail your engines fall off.And that the rew cant get from a-b without transporters so in the event that were down they cant just go through a Jeffries tube....The power failure thing you can get round I guess if you explain taht the tech isnt power dependant (hell thats not even sci fi, you can quantum lock a superconductor in a magnetic field in place in a specific orientation relative to the magnetic field and it will just stay there not dependant on power at all (it will eventally fall off as it has to stay cold to remain superconducting but with 900 years of tech advances Id wager they have stuff that stays superconducting or some other thing entirely that would allow detached bits stay there without needing power or a connector...... but it still doesnt offer any actual ADVANTAGE over having a physucal pylon that I can see and as noted still makes it an inherent issue to alow the crew to access it.... And yes they have maglev trains in japan but that serves a practical purpose in that theres virtually no friction so the train can go much faster and a much smoother ride with less power. If they made some kind of explanation like that for the nacells that would make so so much more sense.

[@scarpad]

Nutrek sucks at ship designs, just terrible

[@keithwiggins3131]

I would not have called this a consitution class. It doesn't have that feeling of those types of ships. Titan a / . Enterprise G look more like a consitution class then this ship.

[@ImmortalTreknique]

Still not surre about this one. 😊🖖💪🤘👍👊🍻

[@florianN132]

I honestly hate all those 32rd century designs from discovery. Theyre made without any effort, just something that's been slapped together in CAD about an hour or so, with the one and only intent to look to be from far future - Absolutely no thought gone into an ytechnical/structural/logical design, window sizes are all over the place ect. Just plain lazy and dumb.