(265) The Shangri-La Class (Starfleet's Answer to the Aging Constitution Class...)

[@TychoYard]

Great video! I had conceived the Shang as being originally built in 2286. I should note here as well that CBS did include this as part of the Titan legacy with this bit of canon history: "NCC-1777, Shangri-La (MK II) Class. Launched in 2290 under the command of Captain Saavik. Known for its multiple encounters with the Klingon Empire, including the Eco-Port Takeover and Horizon colony rescue. The Titan became Starfleet’s flagship under the recommendation of Captain Sulu of the Excelsior. The Titan was instrumental in maintaining frontier stability before the Khitomer accords and subsequent launch of the Enterprise-B." While the Neo-Constitution class Titan resembles its earlier design ancestor, it is considerably larger and completely different vessel.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you very much! I thought about following your story tidbits for months before actually coming up with this story... You see, I love the design, and wanted to not only honor it, but you as well as making it a contender for the New Connie, as it was THAT important! I also wanted to give it a long service history that rivaled the Connie Refit... And the way I see it, this class would have been constructed up to the turn of the Century! So it doesn't interfere with Saaviks Starship Canon :) You are truly amazing at what you do, and hope my reasoning makes at least some sense to you lol

[@justinbell8106]

Now, I'm hoping this ship would receive the legendary treatment

[@TychoYard]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios No worries! I'm not a gatekeeper - everyone should feel inspired to have fun.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Awesome starship designer, and a gentleman too! :) Thank you, and thank you for taking the time to make comments on this video! :)

[@geographicaloddity2]

Another great video. I just have one pet peeve with fandom: I'm not sure if they know what a flagship really is and isn't.

[@masterskywalker7141]

The starship that made me fall in love with the Shangri-La II-class (Constitution III). Don't get me wrong, Constitution refit is still the Golden Baby

[@georgesulea]

Oh Cool! The ship class that Captain Saavik commanded!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Indeedy!

[@stevenclark2188]

Holy hell! Those impulse engines are BEEFY!

[@Willpower-74205]

Calling this class Shangri-la actually fits quite well since it is a long-lived design, and Earth (and much of the Federation) would later be called a paradise by Benjamin Sisko. In another plane of existence, I imagine the author James Hilton is giving this video a thumbs-up. In the spirit of the moment, I'll give it one, too! 🖖😎👍

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you so much :) :)

[@TrentonBennett]

Great job as always. Loved the Shangri-La class especially the original class itself. Once again good job on this.

[@ToallpointsWest]

That was a great video! Well tied in with the different classes. All I do know is that the word "refit" was doing a lot of work coming from the Titan ! 😄

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol Thank you very much!

[@blackc1479]

I generally don't like the various notched saucer designs, but something about this one really hits for me. Especially the connie 3 take on the idea. 👏👏👏 Now somebody just needs to make some stls😁

[@PhilDrury]

She's magnificent! I remember two slightly different versions from a model showcase video compilation a number of years ago.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I know right? An awesome design!

[@nfinity1421]

This was an incredible video and what a gorgeous ship with its combination of angles and curves pleasing to the eye and departures from the standard design elements, while at the same time adhering to them overall. Thank you for making this video and to all involved.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you enjoyed it! And thank you for the support!

[@twitchew]

the designers asked for some guidelines for the Shangri-La from the various captains and they just came back with "Thicccccccc"

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

LOL of course they did LOL

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

This is a beautiful design and the shape of the neck and primary hull definitely look as if she would have been built with early traits of the Excelsior while retaining elements of the Constitution, the angled fan-like saucer section almost reminds me of the Miranda-class and the dual sensor domes or impulse crystals underneath the "handle" of the saucer gives her a unique design. The idea she lasted from the Enterprise's return for refit until early 2300s definitely makes it seem like she could have been a useful vessel and linking it with the new Picard-era ships is a nice touch.

[@DrHenrik]

Really love that design in the shangri-la as well as in the conni mk III just looks great ! Also great video mate as usual!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Glad you like it! And Thanks so much!

[@tehno_thefallen386]

The beauty shots and the lore are fantastic, once agin fantastic work on the video

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you very much Tehno!

[@cesarsosaficachi5737]

Love the design, the base for the Enterprise G , great history 🖖🏻

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@alezandercorben4122]

Love the Shangri-La

[@scottbraun2457]

Very well done.! I want some of these..!!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you!

[@zazaranger5]

I hope that they give us a Shangri-La skin in Star Trek online or just give us the Shangri-La class itself because I really would like to have those TMP style nacelles

[@TychoYard]

It’s coming soon.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Niiiice! :)

[@zazaranger5]

@@TychoYard The Shangri-La in STO??

[@superginrai8036]

I like it. I can definitely see elements that would make it a direct ancestor to the Excelsior class.

[@XHunter442]

Ty for the video and LLPA! This ship reminds me of soo many ships 23rd and 24th century! WOW!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You're very welcome!

[@dan6442]

Beautiful ship.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I think so too!

[@erikerice9068]

That's a pretty ship

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I know right!

[@45580677]

Epic ship

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I know right?!

[@45580677]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I was hoping she the production run of the Connie refit

[@jasonparis5635]

Now this is a very beautiful looking star ship although I'm not a very big fan of the half saucer though but it's a good design keep up the good work and live long and prosper

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you very much, and I do love this design!

[@goodoldbubba6620]

I still get a small tear when I see the Motion Picture Enterprise, just after launch, orbiting Earth as the sunlight hits her. Call me crazy, but I had a tear in 1979 too. Even as a very young kid, I loved that ship.

[@majinjones4565]

She is a very beautiful lady!... Great video and great story! Most Definitely Nerd Approved!!!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you kindly! I really appreciate the support! 😊

[@johntate1360]

That is a lovely ship another amazing stories yes I want more stories.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you! Your wish is my command! Lol

[@christiankolbesberger2980]

If only I could get the Components for my Connie 3 in STO so I could put on the Shangri-La Nacelles and Saucer

[@mickeyford65]

Another great video. I love that ship.

[@defiantance]

A cargo ship? This ship, if I'm looking at it right, has not one but three torpedoes launchers on the front of the saucer section. If true, then this would be one nasty cargo ship to go up against.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yes, but not at first, and you have to consider the age it was in when it became a cargo vessel! It is more than likely though containing 3 launchers, that they were out of date by the early 24th Century... And becoming a cargo vessel, mixed with the peaceful galactic mood at the time would probably guarantee those tubes were never updated to fire newer torpedoes! So in essence, the threat she posed was probably far less than you're thinking!

[@KertaDrake]

Could actually make a great ship for sensitive cargo runs that don't necessitate a modern ship, but do need something that can stand up to higher-tier pirate vessels and either turn the tables or survive long enough for help to arrive!

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very totally very cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and very nicely well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the Shangri-La Class starship's, A job very nicely fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.

[@graemechapman4957]

I only wish they had added this as an alternate skin for the conny III in STO....I much prefer the TMP Era look...

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

TychoYard has informed us that it IS coming for STO!

[@ericmadsen7470]

I like the starships of the 2270s that lasted into the 24th century.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Meeeeeeee too!

[@CarlHardiman-jc7br]

Not bad......NOT BAD AT ALL👍🖖🏼🙏😇💯%!!!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I know right? :)

[@jeremy1860]

Has it ever been explained canonically how they choose the names of various ship classes? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No it hasnt :(

[@dominik8005]

Wow was very nice Video. Like 👍 it very much

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Thank you very much Dom!

[@davegallo8166]

Connie's were their own worst enemy , M5

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No, not really!

[@DMSProduktions]

It's a Titan for sure... I'll leave now!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol! Ill see you to the door lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@DMSProduktions]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios You're too kind Sir!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol

[@sackofham]

Have you done a video on (or ever heard of) the Belknap Class? I have been obsessed with that class for years. Would love to see your take on it.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Awwww yes Of course I've heard of it! It's actually the Decatur Class with the USS Belknap being a part of it! And it's a design on my "to do" kitbash list! So hopefully soon you'll see a video :)

[@bear8696]

in the era with bigger is better ships i could see two or three of these things working together being superior to one larger ship.

[@OmegablueWolf]

the design works as a Lost Era ship, it DOESNT work as a 2400's era ship. good video for sure !

[@Arms872]

Great video and a gorgeous ship. Also… what is the Parker class?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4LCiKqdp7OJp5Ysi=PmDqZ_WbqQRQjhMM you can check it out here! :)

[@Arms872]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios thanks!

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No problem 🙂

[@thomaszinser8714]

Obviously, I'm not expecting you to have the explanation that the original designers had for the name, but I assume that Shangri-La was a choice of name at least in part thanks to the USS Shangri-La, one of the Essex-class carriers of WW2. Would fit with the other names of that era, after all.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Actually, my understanding is that the name was picked due to the technological advancement of the class over the TOS era, as walking onto this ship was akin to entertaining Shangri-La in its "hey day..."

[@stevegiles9080]

I prefer the design to uss enterprise aleast tos design. I like it better than the uss excelsior. Nothing beats the galaxy class design still

[@jameslewis2635]

This design seems like a lighter alternative to the Excelsior class vessels. When you look at it as a fleet with the Miranda acting as a light cruiser, the Shangri-La taking the mid point and the Excelsior being akin to a battlecruiser (in military roles) this makes a lot of sense. Add in the Constellation class which would probably be great in a destroyer/scout role (due to its ability to cruise at high warp speeds and heavy torpedo compliment) and there you have a pretty well balanced fleet with the only role left unfulfilled being that of a battleship (although I suspect the Ambassador class might be the eventual fit for such a role).

[@pyronuke4768]

I think the ship looks far better in TMP livery than in Picard livery. Call it a personal grievance, but I do *not* like the look of the Neo-Connie; it just feels like it's trying way too hard to imitate classic Trek. (I'm also totally not salty at the executive decision to tanalize STO players like myself witht he Enterprise-F, then turn around and chuck it out the window so to speak.)

[@ericmadsen7470]

Kudos to Brian Krause for a dramatic and beautiful design that is the offspring of the aging Constitution Class. 😃

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Indeed, great design!

[@HMSVanguard46]

Omg just seen this I'm sorry😭

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol awwww, you dont love me anymore lol

[@HMSVanguard46]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I've just seen a really cool render of the atlas class with a TMP refit looks!

[@HMSVanguard46]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I just didn't get a notification and was streaming myself all day

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Awwww no worries, we all have lives! Lol

[@jamesabernethy7896]

A really nice-looking ship blending elements from the Constitution, Excelsior and an Akyazi but still allowing her to be her own ship. The colour scheme also gives her real character. The only element that I don't like is the fussy lines of the nacelle struts, although it the primary hull, it's not a necessary element.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Im not sure I understand what you mean...

[@GamingAcrossTheYears]

For all we know the Shangri La Class was the stepping stone to the Excelsior as a lot of the original design matches that ship

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

It wasn't!

[@Starfoxfan-rg6iz]

Great work! Also I do have one question and I should have asked this last time, could you do the hoover class as well from discovery?

[@jonathanbair523]

I wish they would have done a full saucer rather then the fan shaped saucer for the Shangri-La Class.... I am a fan of the Constitution Class, tho I think the small neck dose not fit with the ship. Something that the Excelsior and Shangri-La Classes seamed to have fixed..

[@daviddyster4145]

It’s a shame this class never got its chance to shine in the later 23rd Century.

[@xheralt]

Wait, isn't "replacing the Constitution class" supposed to be what the _Excelsiors_ were for?! Four digit NCC's were hitting 28xx (e.g. USS Stargazer) by the first third of the 2300's (Old Calendar), so 25xx NCC's should be IMO biased closer to that and later than 2370's/80's. Shangri-La's secondary hull design _follows_ Enterprise-B's (and precursors TNG aesthetics), providing another reason to bias the class a little later in the timeline. Shangri-La's strike me as a sort of lighter/faster variant of the ENT-B refitted Excelsiors. Less internal volume, less cargo space, maybe more suited for interior patrols than outward exploration?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No! The Excelsior was to replace the Constitution Class Refit, not the Constitution Class! Also, Registries are Meaningless, please refer to kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4u3mohria12m7c to better understand Registries, and why they can never be used to determine age of a vessel!

[@kineuhansen8629]

i have a bit of mist feelings about this ship though it was strange for the main hero ship of picard was inspired by a ship at the time as far i know was not even canon but i do say i the modern trek is filling out the kirk era starfleet so we get other ships that not just connie classes like we see in the tos series

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

All ships have back stories as do eras themselves... But until a show or movie reveals them, we must believe that the Fictional Universe is far more expensive than we ever can see!

[@Mb9850a]

The Shanghai-la class was the flagship between the enterprise -a and b so claiming it finally got the flag ship title as the g is a little misleading the Titan that Saavik commanded was the flagship briefly

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

First off, no it isnt... The Class wasn't the flagship, the Titan was! Second, what I said was "finally claim the class title she had been denied back in the early 2270's, becoming the Neo Constitution or Constitution III Class with the added bonus of Starfleet's Newest Flagship, the Enterprise-G becoming a vessel of this class." IE the Constitution Class, not the Flagship Title... In future, please pay better attention to the video, rather than attempting to further the narrative you want to push! 🙄

[@BobbyD262]

Excellent video, but can we go back tot he original idea of calling the Constitution II (or Constitution Refit) the "Enterprise Class"? 😁

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol no, as that would not be canon! 😜

[@calebwyman5510]

Lexi, I’m not a fan of the war 10 episode but that’s just my opinion

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Huh?

[@calebwyman5510]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios the voyager Tom Perry episode when they break warp 10 I’m not fan of that episode

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

What does that have to do with anything here? Lol

[@calebwyman5510]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios the video is a Star Trek video, Voyager is Star Trek, canon please come from the show. I don’t wanna go into too much detail about this because I don’t have enough information to go on.

[@calebwyman5510]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios banality mentioned it I am going to study up on new/old war theory

[@Moonless6491]

I loved it except for the saucer cutouts, and I wasn't a big fan of it becoming the enterprise when it's predecessor was an absolute unit. Would have rather seen the D pulled out of mothball and upgraded as a tribute instead.

[@02ujtb00626]

Gets turned into the neo-constitution, removing half its phaser coverage and installing a forward launcher that fires right into the ventral saucer lol. Kudos to that thought process. 😂😂😂😂

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Lol 100% Incorrect, this comment is a clear example of when a Trek fan only sees what they want to see, to push a narrative, rather than the actual truth! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You mean besides the canon proof we see in the show, with both forward and aft torpedoes launched and NOT hitting the ship? Lol I rest my case LOL 🤣🤣🤣

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

But again you are incorrect, as Voyagers Ventral Torpedo Launcher is NOT a mistake, nor is the VFX for the Ship in Picard... Especially the latter you have no leg to stand on, as the Torpedo Launchers are used countless times throughout season 3, not just accidentally one time from an area that is NOT a Torpedo Launcher! So you've got nothing... Your interpretations are not fact, what is seen IS fact, especially in this case, so my original comment stands! And im closing this thread here, as you are just running around in incorrect circles, grasping at non existent straws! Take care! (THREAD CLOSED- No further comments will appear to prevent OP from continuing an incorrect circular argument)

[@paulnash9851]

Too fussy + busy. (Like all new trek) The elegance + simplicity of the re-fit will never be matched. Right from the beginning the Connie was the apex of starship design. Never to be out done.

[@JRJohnson1701]

I really don't like those cut-off saucer sections. It's just jarring to the senses. So much wasted potential space.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I dont think it's wasted space at all... Starships in Starfleet are designed to be elegant, to make species want to speak with them, to be friends... It would only be wasted space if the space was necessary, which it isnt in this case!

[@NeilHarry-p4v]

Who picks these 😂names , what next the north Korea, the hong kong, the hitler 😂😂

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Uhmmm I don't get it? Shangri-La is nowhere NEAR the same as the names you listed...

[@TychoYard]

⁠@@TriAngulumAudioStudiosShangri-La is also a fictional place.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yes exactly, so Im not sure what the connection between the names the OP listed and Mythical Place for a 1930s novel... LOL

[@TychoYard]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios a mythical paradise as well and quite the opposite of whatever connotations suggested above.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yeah, I don't get it at all...

[@twogungunnar9456]

It's ugly and I do not like it. It's like the designer thought something like, "More advanced = jumbled complicated mix of angles and weird shapes and pointless cutouts. It's visually messy and busy so it's 'more advanced'!" Ick yuck yuck ick blech.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

100% Disagree! Even though you are entitled to your own personal opinion, the majority love it, as you can see by the comments! Also it is an elegant design, not a jumble of angles OR weird shapes... Seems to me you just dont WANT to like t for whatever reason as your personal reasoning makes no sense...

[@Kahless_the_Unforgettable]

I hate the Constitution 3 class so much. It makes no sense. All other Federation ships of the era get elongated saucer sections. Making them look sleek and dangerous. This one gets the ancient style circle shaped saucer section with derpy cutouts, for, reasons. It looks old and weak. It looks regressive. Like Starfleet is forgetting technology and entering a dark age.

[@jonathanflugge3557]

That is NOT THE ENTERPRISE-G, it's a Kurztman POS.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Actually it IS the Enterprise-G whether you like it or not, and THAT will never change... So get your head outta your backside and get over it, you just look FOOLISH! Cya! (THREAD CLOSED- No further comments will appear to prevent an incorrect toxic nonsense rant from OP)