2023 Toyota Crown | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports

[@sarasmith9952]

So many reviewers don’t understand what a draw awd plus hybrid is. I want a trunk due to security. I don’t want people seeing what I have in the back. I’m a middle age woman. Want a nice car. No longer need all the space of a highlander and want a nice, smooth quiet ride that is safe in the snow and gets good gas mileage and has the newest tech.

[@jimwatchyyc]

Your first sentence I don’t at all agree with.

[@djplonghead5403]

The newest Tech might be an overstatement. For the price, it should have a HUD, Ambient lighting, More power adjustments (seat and wheel), etc. If you want the newest tech you don't get Toyota or Lexus. I love the limited trim and especially the climate concierge. I think it should be better for MSRP. Luckily many dealers are selling it at MSRP or lower and not 8k above like a Prius or Grand Highlander.

[@jsfbay1]

I just wish that this craze for ever larger wheels would turn the corner (pun intended) and people would start appreciating the lower cost of tires and other advantages. 21" wheels are totally impractical where I live, where the roads are terrible, just full of potholes, etc.

[@gthelee3412]

I completely agree! Higher cost, harsh ride, much higher risk of damaging a wheel. They are great for a sporty car, but not practical for a family truckster. I wonder if the people that are wanting the bigger wheels are just leasing and never pay for replacement tires.

[@josephmutholam8147]

So far based on the reviews I love the Ltd trim of the Crown, what appeals to me is the seat height (easy in and out) and the overall build but for a $50K car that is supposed to be Toyota's flagship I wish they had a tendered to 3 simple items. 1. lack of HUD, 2. lack of a blind spot camera which is available even on a CRV, 3. The trunk lid should be on struts rather than a bar that you have to manually put in place to keep it open. I hope Toyota Engineers will look into these simple fixes for the next model year. It is the middle of 2023 and unfortunately I have yet to see a single Crown on the road.

[@djplonghead5403]

The only time I would use hood struts is to check oil (not sure if that voids warranty), so I don't know if that should be there or not. I agree with the trunk struts- most sedans at this price or cheaper are on struts- the Crown just pops it and you have to lift it up. A HUD would be nice. Ambient Lighting would be nice (Our 2016 La Crosse has beautiful lighting) 12-14 way seats would be nice- not 8. Power tilt/tele wheel would be nice for entry & exit- our 2014 Lexus has it so I feel it should of trickled down after 10 years. Standard 360 view on the Limited would be nice- having to push the car to 50k to get it is crazy... also I don't want the 21 wheel in order to get it. I don't mind the CVT but I wish there was more insulation to the cabin- The Honda Accord does a better job. The 2025 Model year fixes a lot of these issues but only for the Platinum... not the common bought Limited. I like the illuminated door sills.

[@newsmedia-one9756]

I am honestly very very sad that the Avalon went away. I like the Avalon styling on the outside, much better, and it looks more slicker. It was very elegant compared to this new crown.

[@Storm-vl3li]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@tangotea7192]

Exactly

[@georgeidarraga4006]

I am confused by why this is not a hatchback. It looks like a hatchback - why not make it functional? Instead you get the utility of a standard trunk opening. It seems like a lost opportunity for added functionality in a large vehicle.

[@tpolerex7282]

There is both a hatchback as well as a Sportback wagon body style available in other markets, unfortunately not here.

[@satsuma77009]

the perfect Vehicle for people who hate consumer transportation modules (SUV) and have too much arthritis to do the chicken dance getting in and out of a traditional sedan.

[@rightlanehog3151]

As long as those people are not too tall. This Crown has less headroom than a Camry.

[@djplonghead5403]

@@rightlanehog3151 Yes. They put a more "couch-like" seating position instead of a sedans "laying down" position. This means you get less legroom but a more comfortable position.

[@lcarliner]

I do not want ANY WHEEL SIZE that requires low-profile tires!

[@toronado455]

me neither!

[@milfordcivic6755]

I'm sick of them too. Spending the entire ownership worrying about damaging the wheels or having them ripped off, followed by $1500 for replacement tires sucks.

[@LordWaterBottle]

A hundred times this! I will pay a premium for a SMALLER RIM if it gets me out of low profile tires.

[@chinnana583]

Consumer reports: Keep talking about this CVT. Everyone who is into cars (your viewers) pretty much know this, whats called eCVT is a Motor/Generator/Engine combined transmission, not really CVT, same as Highlander Hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, which are same as a Prius from 20 years ago. Appreciate if you can drop this CVT thing, refer to as what it is. Also, you talk about this Hybrid as if you don't know anything about it. Its exactly same as Highlander Hybrid power train and has been discussed in many channels on here on KZbin. Kelly presented very good perspective about this car as well as answered the question from viewer very well.

[@LAAM619]

i second this whole comment.

[@toronado455]

yeah they need to call it what it is, a planetary gearset.

[@ceciliaabdalla4954]

Are these hybrids from Toyota reliable and are they expensive to maintain?

[@markh3057]

Toyota is the OG hybrid maker. Saw Prius come in my shop with 300 k, original engine, trans, battery pack, just purring along. Most reliable hybrid on the market@@ceciliaabdalla4954

[@donswier]

As a former Saab owner (1980 5 door), how did this Crown not become a hatch? Bikes, small kayaks, skis, camping are all possible with a big hatch sedan.

[@toronado455]

because SAAB was a practical company in 1980 and Toyota is becoming less practical with some of their newer designs.

[@walterdockins8475]

Right! It would have made SO much sense to do that. This vehicle is 196" long yet has just 15.2 Cu Ft of trunk space. I wonder if more space would have been available in a sportback design? The VW Arteon, Audi A5, Audi A7, Buick Regal Sportback have 21.8 - 31.5 cu ft of space. I really think a large sedan sportback bridges the gap between a sedan, CUV, and wagon.

[@shawngee1]

So, the oil used on this car is expensive, so that two years of basic maintenance is a good deal in my opinion.

[@djplonghead5403]

It has gone down in price considerably in the last 2 years. Cheaper "10 min oil changes" might not carry it but most places will. I found 5 quarts for $25.

[@toronado455]

Regarding the panoramic roof, automakers seem to be giving consumers bigger and bigger glass panels in the roof, but then reducing the size of the windows that you really need along the rear quarter sides of the vehicle.

[@naveenthemachine]

The crown has a horrid panoramic roof The one in the Camry is much better executed

[@johnnyperdue363]

@@naveenthemachinewe have the panoramic roof in our 2020 Camry XSE that actually opens, Toyota dropped the ball on the Crown.

[@djplonghead5403]

@@johnnyperdue363 They say that they saved weight, cost, and sound with the lack of an opening roof. Water- and sound-proofing is often a problem with opening moonroofs (At least after 10 years). I wish they could do 1 large panel and not need the structural panel at the B pillar.

[@Supernaut2000]

Beautiful car, Toyota will sell them all, no problem. And it's not a Lexus so not the super high price point.

[@LuizStocklerHenrique]

This will be a hit with the geriatric buying group. A lot of grandchilren will then be inheriting these things. They will glady enjoy the large back seats with small windows for privacy. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[@Mr5Stars]

C.R. , love the podcast, consider showing longer, extended views of the car interior, exterior without interruptions. In my opinion, I rather see more of the feature car and less of the podcasters talking.

[@toronado455]

Podcast is mostly about listening to them talk. Any video footage is just icing on the cake and fluff. This is not a good show for in depth interior video. I recommend MikesCarInfo KZbin channel for that.

[@robratchford2433]

I plan to purchase a used 2020 Avalon within the next year or so. I currently have an older Avalon and have really enjoyed this vehicle! The Crown looks terrible in styling. The current Avalon that I have receives 33 MPG on the interstate. Toyota should have retained the Avalon and continued to enhance it!

[@robertwilliams6218]

I have 2020 Avalon hybrid Limited. I think it looks way nicer than the Crown. I don't know about real world MPG with the V6 but my hybrid gets the 43 mpg. If you require android auto though it's 21-22 only.

[@djplonghead5403]

@@robertwilliams6218 I think the Crown looks better in person and is striking. The Avalon has some VERY nice interior features but the weird screen and boring exterior kills it for me.

[@TheLifetraveler1]

Why do you people keep saying that the sedan market is dying. There are a few of us unless we are dying as well. Who will never buy an SUV or a truck. So cars like this will still appeal to us. Also as old folks, we can't turn as far over our shoulders to see things coming as we used to. So having blindside monitoring services will more than compensate for the rear view that we normally would try to achieve.

[@LionRunner]

As someone from Asia I cannot match the name "Crown" and the new shape of it, because in my childhood Crown is a luxury & big sedan. If was never about performance and firm ride with low profile tires. I'm surprised previous Toyota CEO allow this characteristics with the name Crown.

[@yumpinyiminy963]

I looked at the Crown and your wrong. For less or the same money you can get a Lexus ES. I went for the 2024 Lexus. You might get 1 year of free service 1 oil change vs 2. You get a better 5 year bumper to bumper coverage. If my 2013 Avalon Limited road as nice as the ES350, I would have kept it.

[@djplonghead5403]

The ES and Crown are similar. To get heated and vented seats in the ES, along with the larger screen, you are pushing 50K. You can get a limited crown with the auto park for 50K. I like the Lexus because of the real wood and real aluminum but I think the Crown is much better as a base limited (47,000) compared to a base ES 300h (same powertrain) which costs 46,000.

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

I really wish that CR would ALSO do a podcast where they review cars at the end of their stay at the magazine. Based on all the reviews I've watched of the Crown, it's clear to me that although many are billing it as the "Avalon" replacement, it actually doesn't do anything--with the exception of egress/ingress due to higher ride height--better than the Avalon?

[@arthouseabb]

It looks a bit aggressive on the design side; sporty. I’m confused about who Toyota envisions driving this.

[@ydmf2]

It's going to sell as well as that tall Honda Accord thing. 😑

[@donwhitehead4587]

Replacement for the Avalon? I think not!

[@mike168168]

It’s probably one of Akio Toyoda-san’s ideas. I’m glad he got retired to be the chairman now.

[@arthouseabb]

@@donwhitehead4587 exactly my thought

[@ItsAlive111]

@@ydmf2 unfortunately for Toyota, the accord is more competitive against the smaller engine Crown.

[@kathleensiker7570]

Really good review, lots of good information. Thank you

[@MechayaAlta]

Great visibility with easy access, so when will we see a Subaru Forester/Outback with Toyotas hybrid system? Another want is a Toyota Sienna with removable second row seats and 8” ground clearance. I’m a frugal retired baby boomer with some cash to spend and time to travel.

[@toronado455]

I agree with these requests. There are rumors that Subaru will be using Toyota's hybrid system. I hope that's true.

[@Aikynbreusov]

I'll be damned if this new Crown revolutionizes the auto industry just like the Toyota RAV4 did 25 years ago....the Toyota RAV4 was the first true CROSSOVER that brought crossover crave that we see today... the original Lexus RX300 started the luxury crossover crave to the high-end auto industry

[@walterdockins8475]

Cargo space is too small. Most growing families will go with a mid-sized CUV/SUV instead.

[@pinkipipe]

just different 👏🏻

[@walterdockins8475]

I'm shocked that this vehicle is 196" long but has just 15.2 Cu Ft of trunk space. I wonder if more space would have been available in a sportback design? The VW Arteon, Audi A5, Audi A7, Buick Regal Sportback have 21.8 - 31.5 cu ft of space. I really think a large sedan sportback bridges the gap between a sedan, CUV, and wagon.

[@omancars]

supposed that Toyota should focus on the sedan category General taste in America and Middle Eastern countries tends towards sedan design more than crossover design

[@thesuncollective1475]

Crown looks snazzy. Lexus styling is average and common

[@gerarddion4859]

I really enjoy these Talkin Cars panel discussions/reviews of cars by Consumer Reports. As far as the Toyota Crown is concerned, I see two factors: one, it has similar appeal as the Subaru Outback Sedan SUS, and the trend towards four-door coupes. I would really like to see a review of the high-performance hybrid version. I agree with the panel that Toyota should be a hatchback.

[@stacyholt6529]

Being pushed out of modern sedans due to the lower, sleeker stance and styling (yes, the auto makers did it to themselves), I can appreciate the new Crown. I don't care that it's a sedan on stilts... This is coming from a guy that thought the AMC Eagle was an alright looking vehicle. 😉 Sedans became unusable, and this gets back to an ease of entry / exit that is in a relatively good looking package. Basically, I drive a crossover only because I have to.

[@toronado455]

the Camry and Avalon got lower every redesign. And now the Prius as well. Bring back the Prius V.

[@bashfullJ88]

That's one of the reasons the civic sells so well. It's easy to get in and out of.

[@WyLEE08]

It’s a swing and a miss IMO and I don’t see it holding value to the many new models coming out.

[@Hell_Toupée]

im in the market for a new (or relatively new) car. in all my shopping i see that they're pretty much the same. what difference does it make ? any car is pretty much the same as any other car. differences mentioned in all these reviews are so minor. - quiet, not so quiet, buttons too far on the right, screen too small, quoted mileage is overstated, etc. If you don't just go for the cheapest car, what criteria is important ?

[@toronado455]

Do you subscribe to CR? If not I recommend it because it can really help! The ratings really helped to narrow things down. The podcast doesn't really get into it.

[@LP-sp4sf]

There are HUGE differences between cars, even in the same segment. Obviously a big one is reliability, fuel economy, available safety (for example automatic emergency braking) and comfort which is very personal depending on height, driving position, etc. Ride/handling is another big one as well, a long commute or road trip can be pretty miserable with a rough riding car and/or noisy one (wind, engine noise).

[@Mabeylater293]

24:38. What’s great about teslas is that THE COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY DESIGNED the car is the one that works on your car.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Seems strange to introduce a new, large sedan when they are dying off. Why didn't Toyota just improve the Avalon?

[@kylehurlbrink]

Keep in mind during the launch, the crown will have multiple body styles coming soon. Not sure about to the states.

[@rightlanehog3151]

This oddball version of the new Toyota Crown is to cars what the platform running shoe is to footwear. Besides the contradictory messages conveyed by its exterior 'styling', another frustrating feature of the Crown is the fact the comfortably raised seating position is immediately compromised by a reduction in headroom compared to the Camry. Yes, Toyota raised this sedan then squashed the passenger compartment. We can only HOPE Toyota brings over one of the more balanced and functional Crown models that made their debut last summer because this one is destined to be known as the Clown. 🤨

[@jsfbay1]

Yes, please give the Subaru Outback a run for its money! Bring the Crown Estate wagon!!

[@toronado455]

The JDM Crown Sedan has much nicer styling.

[@quixomega]

The sedan-style trunk is really stupid. It makes the vehicle less useful and it's still a high-riding SUV so you don't get sedan fuel economy.

[@mattheviewer]

Helpful info! Wrt "kurt"'s comments, I know that person and learned the manufacturer, Subare, customer support itterated to him the standard industry response "we don't accept customer data nor act on intermittant issues under warraty. Any electronic issue must be continuous and repeatable before we will take action to fix it." One small crumb of comfort: ever so often they release general eleftronic updates which may and have corrected issues.

[@omelborpon3159]

matt, your post is right on. So NEVER tell service the problem is intermittent, and never diagnose the problem (they DEEPLY resent it when the user knows more than they do). At first. Of course they will reset the error code, and say they can't replicate. Demand a copy of the diagnostic scan. Then show the maintenance manager your OBD2 scan, your forum and KZbin data. Give the mm one more chance to do the right thing. Then escalate: 1-800, burn them in multiple online reviews, post on user forums the name of the dealership, etc.

[@timstrobel9220]

I think the crown would have been much nicer as a hatchback

[@walterdockins8475]

Right! I'm shocked that this vehicle is 196" long but has just 15.2 Cu Ft of trunk space. I wonder if more space would have been available in a sportback design? The VW Arteon, Audi A5, Audi A7, Buick Regal Sportback have 21.8 - 31.5 cu ft of space. I really think a large sedan sportback bridges the gap between a sedan, CUV, and wagon. My wife likes the Crown but I like the Arteon!

[@Pamlicojdjdj1487]

That’s why I bought a new 2023 VW Arteon SEL Premium R-Line 4Motion and could not be happier!. Same size as this Crown but interior space, rear seat legroom and cargo room (27.2 cubic feet with rear seats up) are all palatial. Not to mention it looks so much better. A head turner!

[@donbergeron5466]

Do you think that Toyota will add a car wash mode to the Crown Limited - maybe thru firmware upgrade

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

The Subaru user needs a better mechanic. Plain and simple. My family has three Subarus overall now, two in Florida, one in Connecticut. One had an electrical problem in Florida. They troubleshooted it as it was inconsistent, and learned a microchip board had a short circuit when a set of specific commands were sent to it. They figured it out and the problem was solved.

[@rocksolid1178]

Who would get this over a 2023 Honda Accord EX-L or Touring trim? Some of the reviewers think the new 2023 Honda Accord Touring is similar to this Crown in terms of quietness at cruising speed but at a much lower price. The only thing the Accord is missing is a spare tire that I think can be bought after market.

[@johnnyperdue363]

The missing spare tire is a deal breaker for me. 🤷‍♂️

[@Mark-de4hj]

Thank you Consumer Reports!

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

The Crown seems to be a car similar to the old Toyota Cressida back in the late 1980s and 1990s, until it was discontinued and then the lower tier Camry took over (it was built in parallel to the Cressida) and the Cressida became the GS at Lexus. Now it seems they are going to the old format of the Cressida being the luxury Toyota with the Crown. Back to the future.

[@erictate5985]

I am sick of suv ! All car prices are going up. Ev are not affordable & the avalon is died so get over it & move on. Long live SEDANS😂😅

[@Kylehoulihan]

I think Toyota completely missed it with the outside design.

[@The72Rabbit]

I dont compare the crown to an Avalon, Camry, Rav4 but I do compare the platinum to the Lexus Rx 500h. Check the specs and do a review around something that is more accurate.

[@ItsAlive111]

If the 340hp Crown is pleasant but not exciting, wait until you drive the new hybrid Accord

[@naveenthemachine]

The performance in the crown is so pathetic It can’t even outperform a Camry v6

[@jonathanratliff4780]

@@naveenthemachine you nailed it! Esp all the buzzy noisy 4 banger and loss of that buttery smooth V6 😩

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

For anyone who's particularly interested in the history of the "Toyota Crown" name (first used in 1955), Throttle House has a fun look back at all the cars on which Toyota has used the Crown name over the years. Spoiler alert, it's not been used with only one car. Many very substantially different cars have "worn" the Crown (name). kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmPFmp13l5J8rLc

[@mss627]

The Crown wins my Pontiac Aztec award as the most butt ugly car of 2023. What was Toyota thinking?

[@Steve_in_NJ]

The more I'm researching Toyota, the more we are leaning towards the 2023 Honda Accord Touring after our current 2020 Accord Touring lease is up late Spring.

[@naveenthemachine]

Why not consider the Camry? The top end XSE v6 is a good option imo

[@LP-sp4sf]

Exactly what I was thinking, a new Accord Touring costs USD 10k less than the top of the line Crown. The Crown would need cost a lot less for me to pick it over an accord.

[@sporkybutterz]

Ingress and egress on a Camry is the problem as it sits too low. The V6 is nice but you take a hit on the fill up. The crown seems cool from the outside but the more I learn about this car the more negatives stick out for the price point

[@rprtr720]

The two tone paint looks like a silly, poorly executed afterthought.

[@toronado455]

Yeah the car was not designed for this paint treatment.

[@johnnyperdue363]

I kinda like the Duracell battery one, lol.

[@reymustanggt4082]

With this ridiculous car shortage anything will sell and Toyota knows that and by the way I hope you enjoy the markups their dealer enjoys to give you.. I'll pass

[@cmdrdarwin3682]

Same here - I’m not buying Toyota’s funky styling & bloated prices. There tons of other vehicles to choose from.

[@johnnyperdue363]

I’ll never pay for an adjusted market value markup even if i never have another new car. Legalized robbery. F them! I found the Crown Limited at one of the two Toyota dealerships near me for 15 hundred under msrp while the other had a bunch of useless ad on’s for 8 thousand more. (Mostly road hazard warranties and paint protection and junk like that.) Kia are some of the worst for markups that i’ve seen. I’m sure there are plenty of others.

[@seethingsclearlyawaken3424]

I too like the Avalon, but it was a huge car. Then Toyota dropped the Avalon, and made an even larger car? What? Why? No thanks. Too too big. I guess we will end up with the RAV4 Hybrid instead, or the 2025 Camry hybrid is nice too. No CROWN for me, I'm not Donald tRUMP!

[@dougbryan6721]

I question Toyotas decision on the Crown...the C-HR didnt work and this may fall into that category. The trunk looks small, no hatch, turbo4, it just seems out of touch.

[@velmex12]

Is it Lexus quiet?

[@MercOne]

AMC was ahead of it's time, too bad they didn't make it lol.

[@kengreenberg]

Don’t see how or why EVs would pose greater diagnostic and/or service problems than ICE cars: EVs include many fewer moving parts, to say nothing of less in the way of fluids and consumables.

[@toronado455]

in theory you are correct! The problem is dealerships are luddites and they don't want anything that's going to cut into their profits. So they resist any and all adoption of new technology, investment in training or hiring new personnel and buying equipment to service this.

[@Lonestar70blue]

Apparently you haven’t even driven this car, and here you are trashing it. This is why I cancelled my CR subscription. 0:01

[@anotheran]

The buyers who can afford new don’t want to bend down into the car, like the higher visibility. Yeah, Toyota sells to retirees.

[@nickolastiguan]

Looks like a lift back - me: 😮👏 Toyota: it is not actually a lift back. Me: 😒

[@MBisFrenchy]

$50K I'm getting a NX350H. Or a Venza.

[@jml9550]

This is more roomy than the NX. We are looking to buy the NX hybrid as well.

[@naveenthemachine]

10K less can buy you a Camry w the v6 engine and achieve the same 0-60 as the hybrid max crown

[@joshua1932]

The exterior of the car doesn't necessarily scream crown to me I don't entirely like it

[@Jacksirrom]

SUVs suck! More deadly to road users, more resource intensive, more expensive, and worse to drive...

[@gene978]

What have I learned? ZERO

[@marekw.9816]

This is not the way to save sedans.

[@LAAM619]

tbh, i much prefer the Avalon and planned on buying one in 2024... pretty disappointed. The crown is a dud for me.

[@nelsongsousa37]

I have almost 200 thousand miles on my Avalon

[@RANDsreviews]

Has the Model Y Roofline. 😂

[@nickolastiguan]

1:55 eCVT 🙂

[@Terry-p7t]

The phrase 'old people's car' is getting old. In the past, some older people bought Toyotas to feel young. Now Toyotas are for the older crowd and older people are getting shamed when buying a big comfortable car. The media tells you that you must have a sporty, high tech car if you want to hang on to your youth.

[@ianskinner7172]

Just a little confused by this vehicle.

[@rightlanehog3151]

So is Toyota.

[@toronado455]

me too

[@TheLifetraveler1]

Hey talking car folks, we older people aren't really looking for excitement driving such as in a BMW. We want quiet we want confident we want reliable we want safe.

[@Noah_E]

You described an EV. Quiet, fewer components to maintain, etc.

[@jimthumerzs2301]

Whose Crown is this? Vic's? Crown . . . Vic.

[@DK-zd2cu]

Has anyone seen a Tesla? Many say it’s a hybrid response to the unreliable Tesla. Car reviewers would know that.

[@islandmerchandise3017]

Crown = old Venza

[@toronado455]

With the little tiny trunk opening instead of a nice practical hatchback.

[@penvon]

BINGO!!!! It’s almost a play on names,this should’ve been the return of the Venza.I bought one just for the fun of it,well lease I should say.Will right it off on our business so I’ll see how it goes for the next 48months…Due to receive it end of March.

[@amandamcgruder5074]

Well you're a big girl, i would feel closed in to!!

[@jimwatchyyc]

Turbo engine…more expensive to maintain and repair, less of a lifespan.

[@scottormond7985]

I cannot see the appeal of this sedan. I’d rather have a Camry over this ungainly looking model.

[@mauriceldisgreecanadahaspr9560]

Crown is just ok 🤠 can be better to much plactic can be better.

[@mauriceldisgreecanadahaspr9560]

Everyone saying same thing the crown no worth 50.000 thousand door panels are plain.

[@cmdrdarwin3682]

I’ll take an Avalon any day over this ugly thing! There’s nothing Royal about this funky car - What was Toyota thinking?🤮

[@naveenthemachine]

A Camry XSE v6 is so much better than this joke

[@Noah_E]

The smaller 19 inch wheels are still too large. Have the designers of these cars ever driven on normal roads? Give me 17s for winter, 18s for the rest of the year and a spare instead of a useless can of fix-a-flat.

[@rightlanehog3151]

At least you get a spare.

[@milfordcivic6755]

Looks just like anything else on the road. Blech.

[@Humandriver5280]

Cars on this kind of platform have failed. The BMW X series was like this.

[@mauriceldisgreecanadahaspr9560]

I think the Avalon looks better then the crown 👑 the crown looks plain Avalon better car.

[@verlaryder]

Totally alienating to middle aged and older buyers that have the money to afford one. So will be a big failure.

[@jsbtuxman]

I thought the answer to the reader/viewer submitted question was obvious; Stop going to a mechanic or dealership who is not certified or does not have factory certified techs to work on your car. Simple as that. With that said, these three lost me. They sure do talk a lot, but they are not really saying anything. Blocking this channel.

[@BolianAdmiral]

I think ALL auto manufacturers need to get rid of this stupid fetish for giant fish-mouth grilles. They look unbelievably ugly, and I’m just so sick of them.

[@Tonga2]

To expensive and a Sedan, 2 reasons to NOT buy one!

[@amandamcgruder5074]

She has no notes, thats why she's following your guy's lead on this...

[@east5871]

The Crown seems to me to be a car for people who aren’t morbidly obese so they don’t need an SUV and would like something sleek with more responsive handling. The only reason this (car) “sector is dying” is because people are so damn beeeg!

[@johnnyperdue363]

I’m not obese, but i really like the Crown. Both for looks and the ride.

[@ThirdBrainLives]

We all hate Mike Quincy.

[@CCollins54]

i made the mistake of buying one of these!!!!! Uncomfortable, slow, brakes weak, if you are 6ft. tall or taller it is not for you, too small! If you are thin you can not reach the door armrest, the door armrest is also off set from the other armrest! If you put the seat all the way back you run out of door armrest it is too short!!!! What a mess!!! Oh and after spending ten minutes setting my seat up when I turn the car off it makes the seat go all the way back and makes it hard to get out of!!! TOTAL SH/T CAR F OFF TOYOTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DID NOT GET A SECOND KEY AFTER 2 MONTHS!!!! terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!