Consumers, businesses may give up on Canada Post: CFIB

[@SheldonPicklyk]

Just deliver my parcel!

[@JustineeFre]

They always strike near Christmas such bull crap

[@Knightscape42B]

Yeah thats some real horse shit to do this at xmas

[@smgdfcmfah]

@@Knightscape42B It's the only time they're even CLOSE to relevant. Just another government system that should be sold off to the highest bidder - then sell the real estate separately because some of THAT is worth a fortune.

[@TT-fq7pl]

It's called leverage. It's all they have to put pressure on the corporate executives who obviously refuse to offer an acceptable contract (the workers have been without one for over a year). So reserve some of your anger for the bosses and not just the workers.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@smgdfcmfah Hmmm. I wonder how relevant a national postal service will seem once we're all at the whim of couriers for shipping. I wonder if those couriers, with Canada Post gone, will dramatically raise costs while delivering poorer service. Well, I know the answer, even if you don't.

[@jonathanbelanger6574]

They are already well paid, get back to work

[@JustineeFre]

They have my packages that they are holding due to this strike and it’s bull crap they need to come to an agreement soon!

[@demetriosvratis6583]

I agree i can't get my packages so sad have a nice evening

[@townvintage]

The government, never there when you need them to be, always there when you don’t want them to be

[@cone6052]

TEMU Canada is new bigger customer for CPC

[@bibianodsouza1757]

To All Media Organization in Canada . . . . Please ask Canada Post Management The Following 1) Whose Fault is it if Sales Volumes are down for the last few years. 2) Why did Management give themselves Bonuses and Incentives this year if they are are making losses 3) Did they offer Bonuses and Incentives to Union Members 4) Do they say Investments in a new state of the art mail processing plant is part of the loss 5) Do they say that part of the loss is also because they purchased new EV Delivery Van's which are not being used ? Why were they purchased. I Urge the All The Canadian Media to push Canada Post Spokesperson to answer these questions. Thank You

[@smgdfcmfah]

The union is what destroyed Canada Post. Those guys worked SO little for what they got, almost all of them had a second job. It's a zero skill job, so ANYONE can do it with about 10 minutes of training but rather than pay the carriers by the address (adjusted for type of address and neighbourhood) and allow them to take on as much as they want (piece work), they break it down by routes. All ANY union ever wants is more bodies for more dues, so like every other union they've pushed everything that reduces efficiency. Can't start early. Have to wait for last truck. Need to return to station for lunch. Need to return at end of day. Insane overtime. All of this has been pushed by the union to try and REDUCE efficiency. Unions are the bane of the free world - breeds laziness and entitlement in workers while the unions itself is the ultimate in corporate greed. Should break ALL government unions - or take away government employees right to vote (massive conflict of interest there, anyway).

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@smgdfcmfah There is so much inaccuracy and historical ignorance in your comment that, frankly, it's so exhausting to even think about having to share a country with people like you. Why do you think unions were ever created in the first place? Do you think companies will treat their workers well out of the goodness of their hearts? And, for goodness sakes, how can unions be "the ultimate in corporate greed"? Oh dear.

[@ItsTonioCyka]

@@smgdfcmfah100% correct

[@smcdonald9991]

There are package handlers jobs posted on Indeed right now. $17.30 per hour, no retirement benefits. Interested? In case you haven't noticed CP is broke. The $740M deficit is due to ridiculously high salaries given to union members. Thank you for taking the public hostage.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@smcdonald9991 No, that isn't the reason for the deficit, unless you're just a shill for the corporation. It doesn't occur to you that CP is struggling financially because the bosses are bad at THEIR job?

[@vonkruel]

I actually can't have this. I want Canada Post to continue to exist, but I really just can't have this. I need Canada Post to fork over the packages I have stuck in the system. I will _definitely_ be working to avoid them in the future. Did I mention that I _cannot have this_ ???

[@jaymiller6009]

A lot of businesses depend on the four week period from Black Friday through to Boxing Day to have a successful year. This creates a lot of desperate people whom I sincerely feel terrible for. I can only imagine the stress and anxiety those people are going through daily right now. Their union is using that stress and anxiety to put pressure on the company to give in to their demands. While this might work short term, it is not a good way to make friends. If this strike should last through Christmas, I believe that many Canadians would rather CP shut its doors forever and let the free market take over. Although current CP workers enjoy claiming that their jobs are extremely difficult, I don’t believe that former CP employees would be the most highly sought after people by employers.

[@HandofBlake]

How can I give up? The alternatives are 5x the price. My customers won't pay more for shipping than their item cost to start with.

[@jaymiller6009]

If Canada Post shut its doors, a real business would fill the void left. There is so much fat that could be trimmed and so many inefficiencies that there would definitely be room for profit. At Canada Post, a customer drop off a package at a post office and Canada Post delivers it to a different location. For this, they typically charge anywhere from $20-$50, depending on size and weight. By contrast, a customer actually buys an item inside a package and Amazon delivers for a small fee, or for free. To send someone in a different province a box of 100 dishwasher detergent pods would cost approx $25-$30 for the delivery. With Amazon, you could buy that same box of detergent pods and the price would be less than the delivery alone with Canada Post.

[@MidnightSnack-q3i]

@@jaymiller6009 wtf are you on about? You're comparing apples to oranges. Canada Post only delivers, like FedEx. Amazon sells stuff. If I'm selling my paintings, what should I do? Call Amazon to deliver it for free? You have no idea what you're talking about.

[@jaymiller6009]

@MidnightSnack-q3i The point is that for the same price (or cheaper) Amazon cannot only get the same size package delivered, they can also include the value of the contents inside as well. I thought that it was obvious that it wouldn’t apply in every case and that I was making a point with my example. That’s why I specifically chose something relatively large and heavy yet relatively inexpensive. I thought the point was obvious; guess not. I will accept some blame though because I should have taken into account that there are probably a lot of CP employees reading these comments. I will make sure any further comments are much simpler to follow along with and understand. Actually, there’s really no point trying to make sense with someone who can’t figure out the obvious. That’s why some people believe they are entitled to the moon because they can walk outside, carry stuff, read addresses, and put stuff in a mailbox. Challenging stuff right there… Hmmm, I wonder why some people are so afraid of losing their jobs to a machine that they are attempting to force their employer to guarantee in writing that the employer won’t replace them with automation? It’s not like anyone needs efficiency and technology to compete in today’s marketplace.

[@MidnightSnack-q3i]

@ it’s a dumb point. It’s two different businesses. One sells stuff, that’s why you can get cheaper delivery. Because they eat the price of delivery if you spend enough. They also charge a monthly membership fee that includes free delivery. It’s a really dumb point you’re trying to make and you have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s like comparing taxi with the bus and asking how come the bus is much cheaper than the taxi.

[@jaymiller6009]

@MidnightSnack-q3i Thanks for proving my point for me. One company operates efficiently and can eat the price of delivery within the price of a low priced product; and still earn a profit. The other provides no product other than the delivery itself for the same price, and the customer even has to bring the item to them. They still manage to lose hundreds of millions and the staff think they’re in a great position to pay them significantly more… And THIS makes sense to them. I hope they walk themselves right of those union jobs into the real world. Btw, were you trying to deny that part of the strike is wanting to make sure the company cannot replace employees with automation? They are literally attempting to prevent the company from running efficiently; typical union mindset at its absolute finest.

[@princedjaba4626]

No one is against their strike, but they must understand the nationwide consequence of their actions. Their reckless and unstrategic stike will lead to their demise. They must be replaced ASAP. Think about all the businesses and lives they have impacted negatively during this festive season.

[@TT-fq7pl]

You're obviously against their strike. You do realize that the corporate executives have pushed the workers to take strike action, right? After a year of refusing to bargain in good faith, knowing that their corporate-loving friends in government will eventually force the workers back to work, just as they did at the ports of Vancouver and Montreal. You can see this, yes?

[@MizMite2002]

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[@smgdfcmfah]

There nothing essential about the post office. Should just sell it off.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@smgdfcmfah I love having a national postal service. In fact, I love Canada and the institutions that make it a country for all its citizens and not just its wealthiest ones.

[@myhome9475]

Canada Post is making their delivery's employees life harder causing more injuries and quitting jobs. They are delivering letters, flyers, packets and heavy parcels. They have to walk more than 10 KM per day outside in bad weather. People only cares about they deliveries. I dare you to do what they are doing only for one day.

[@Marigold-m2]

I just signed up for a years of unlimited e-cards for all occasions for $40. Will save me about $500/yr in cards & postage. At least it won't take 6 weeks to deliver a card within the same city anymore. Bye Canada Post employees. Rest in pieces.

[@TT-fq7pl]

E-cards? How thoughtful and touching. My cards sent from Edmonton to any other city in Canada generally arrive within three days, and that's been the case all my life (over 60 years). In fact, I think the national postal service is very effective, and would be even more so if the corporations and governments weren't always hacking away at workers' rights.

[@pezinski01]

When is the federal government going step in and end this strike? Are they just going to stand there and watch? This is the busiest time of the year.

[@TT-fq7pl]

Oh don't worry. The federal government always sides with corporations over workers. It's been that way for decades now. We're all just supposed to blame other average Canadians for trying to give themselves decent working conditions. The workers will be forced back soon, and then the executives can have a nice Christmas in the Bahamas (they will anyway).

[@ianhowes8141]

Business needs to find alternatives and government needs to allow canada post to go out of business. We don't need them! Or even better yet, lets fire the management and make canada post a true business, and turn it over entirely to the unions to run WITHOUT any government subsidies. Should last a week or two - maybe!

[@TT-fq7pl]

Apparently, if you watch the news, we REALLY do need them. Otherwise, why are so many people so upset?

[@ianhowes8141]

@@TT-fq7pl only people wh are upset is the left-wing media who are supporters of the union

[@TT-fq7pl]

I'm searching and searching for news about the strike from ANY media source that looks at issues from a labour perspective. Can't find any. All I find are attacks on the working class, sympathy for business owners, and the paradoxical sentiment that Canada Post is irrelevant and yet the strike is really hurting Canadians. Can't be both. Personally, I like having a national postal service that's also a good employer.

[@funkspinna]

The effect on the working class is obvious. The average person doesn't really think about the effect on businesses. CAN affect both.

[@tommclaren812]

Aren't they hemorrhaging like 3.5 billion a year? If a business isn't profitable, it's just socialism. Or you know, Canadian economics lol

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@funkspinna I'm talking about media bias. The average person in Canada is conditioned to think of everything in terms of the effect on business. That's why we get the weird situation of ordinary working people generally siding with the corporate position whenever there's a strike, no matter what the particular issues are. I'd just like to see some balanced reporting for a change, given that most Canadians who have to work for a living are finding it harder to make ends meet these days, whereas there are more billionaires around than ever before.

[@funkspinna]

@@TT-fq7pl The average person in Canada is not conditioned to think of everything in terms of the effect on business. For example, inflation, which is always in the news, is reported based on the effect on consumers, based on the CONSUMER Priced Index (CPI).

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@funkspinna Have you ever watched the news or read a newspaper online or in print? Stock market reports, whole business sections, second homes sections, etc. I've never seen or heard a labour report in the news that addresses workers' lives. Even describing citizens as "consumers" exposes the business conditioning.

[@KeithCoker]

Northern Canada still count on canda post

[@paulodasilva5499]

The hate for the employees of canada post make me sick. These people deserve respect. Be better and stop spreading foolish lies about the business.

[@jaymiller6009]

Would you agree that everyone in Canada (regardless of job they work at) should receive the same financial and benefits package as the people who work at Canada Post?

[@jaymiller6009]

Why do they DESERVE respect??

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@jaymiller6009 I believe that all workers should be supporting each other to improve working conditions right across the board for all of us. Otherwise, we're just serfs tugging on our forelocks and hoping the bosses will be nice to us.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@jaymiller6009 Because they have the collective will to stand up for themselves at a time when corporations and governments have allied to erode workers' rights while selling us the narrative that times are tough. Not tough for the wealthy. Just tough for regular folks.

[@jaymiller6009]

@TT-fq7pl Great, everyone should be nice and support everyone…. However…… Should every employee in Canada received the same compensation as Canada Post employees; regardless of the job they work? If you say no, then please explain exactly why not. What is it exactly about the work that Canada Post employees perform that makes it worth more than what anyone else does?

[@fabienneisore7831]

This strike has been announced for a year. Small business will prepare for disruptions like everyone else. Those that do not will struggle for sure. This is not on Canada Post, business management is a standard for all organizations. Canada Post has been without a contract for over a year, leaving them no choice but to strike. Your guest speaker who represents a business sector association is blaming CP for not putting up with not having a contract? Really? Would he be ok with not being paid fully for his services for a year? Remind me not to support his association they seem to promote unethical standards and lack community solidarity.

[@XSHABX]

should have striked in the middle of the year and not near the end. Government employees have so much benefits and wages compared to the private sector.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@XSHABX So, you'd like to lower everyone's working standards to the private sector level? How is that going to help the average person? It'll just make it easier for the private sector to exploit our labour.

[@Knightscape42B]

Doing this at xmas is the worst. I hope this lasts past xmas to punish the post workers for doing this at this tkme

[@TT-fq7pl]

Meanwhile, the "bosses" are smiling on the beach in the Bahamas. Corporations and governments just love watching average Canadians blame workers for standing up for themselves.

[@SuzukiKid400]

Canada post. Another spoiled union that doesn’t deserve a dime more.whats worse, the teachers union or Canada post?

[@TT-fq7pl]

Oh I know what's worse. Average people who apparently won't be happy until no workers in Canada have decent salaries, working conditions, or job security. You know, those people who resent others for trying to have good jobs just because society's rich and powerful say that we can't have them.

[@Freakshow69-r6p]

Sick of bullshit unions holding companies hotage.

[@TT-fq7pl]

Hmm. Not sick of bullshit executives with high-paying jobs with bonuses who have had over a year to settle with their workers? Why not? Do you always side with the bosses?

[@Freakshow69-r6p]

@TT-fq7pl ....I DO NOT SIDE WITH A BUNCH OF BULLIES HOLDING A COMPANY HOSTAGE.

[@brianbarksey]

Excuse me I get Hydro and utility bill by email

[@donaldnicol8415]

This postal strike made the choice for me to make all my bills,former paperwork on email.For decades postal delivery was a part time job,that morphed into the unconnected mess it is now..

[@fabienneisore7831]

Good thing you have other options...

[@brianbarksey]

So start using email more you can send coupons by email you can transfer money on line you can pay bills on line the only thing I get in the mail are flyers and I get the same ones by email