Control vs Boomer (Low Elo Legends)

Arena is a map with a heavy focus on map control, but everyone has a different approach. In this game we see the excessive control approach, vs the boomer approach and I talk through the pros & cons!
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[@squatlebherz4434]

29:10 - You want him to go halberdier with only 5k food and 2k wood in the bank? Be realistic

[@raynightshade8317]

you would think with T90 growing up near the Amish he would know how to place farms better

[@enlighteneddoggo5803]

They are modest people. Their farms are not for you to stare at lecherously.

[@raynightshade8317]

@@enlighteneddoggo5803 Yes but im sure they place them efficiently

[@enlighteneddoggo5803]

@@raynightshade8317 Efficiency diminishes hard work-which is a virtue.

[@raynightshade8317]

@@enlighteneddoggo5803 yes but they only have so much land

[@jamesmurphy7828]

@@raynightshade8317 They place them Amishably. Tis the only righteous way ya know.

[@squatlebherz4434]

Loses a castle to trebs... builds another one about 4 tiles back to also lose that to trebs. Gotta admire the resilience

[@BinnyBongBaron_AoE]

That's one word for it, haha.

[@squatlebherz4434]

@@BinnyBongBaron_AoE certainly ain't a quitter 🤣 didn't give up until 2 castles after he ran out of stone

[@Saw321lol]

I literally just had a guy today, repair the castle getting treb'd, spending a good 200'ish stone, then said castle goes down, and he immediately built another one in the same spot 5 seconds after the first one went down, which also got destroyed soon after. And after all that, he built a 4th forward castle on one of my flanks, without any army backing it up.

[@kanedNunable]

When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

[@kanedNunable]

When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

[@AtlasJotun]

It's a fantastic soliloquy, but it's trumped immeasurably by the question that prompted it: "What, the curtains?" Now go away, or I will be forced to taunt you a second time.

[@voxvolhynia5400]

@@AtlasJotun NI!!

[@AtlasJotun]

@@voxvolhynia5400 That sounds like a threat (removes fish from scabbard)...

[@penguinwarcry]

Man that boar pull into farm build was some next level stuff.

[@Quincy_Morris]

I love all the rollplaying you do explaining the interpersonal complexities of the units XD

[@bkm8707]

For what it's worth, T90, I appreciate the Saul Goodman references. Now we gotta find a Slippin' Jimmy

[@johnsmithe4656]

At 400 Elo I am playing lots of Arena matches and I notice this strategy a lot, where players build all their military buildings in the center. Unless they're Goths this is usually a bad idea. As Lithuanians I like to stay inside the home base and not even build stuff close to the walls. That way the enemy has no idea what I'm up to. And I really appreciate the geography that gives me a lot of extra space to the wings of the main base, getting 3 walled off bases is best with multiple TCs. I sometimes come out to get relics, I sometimes take some stone and gold right outside the walls, but for the most part I stay put. Then well into Imp the enemy comes forward with their mixed army and my 100% hussar storm begins. The production buildings in the center, even the castles, don't last long. All I can think every time this plays out is, 'you start with walls here for a reason, USE THEM!' We get plenty of space in most Arena setups to be able to stay behind the walls, you just have to be efficient with your building placement. Sim City that shit and make it tight like Downtown Beijing. 85 farms is doable.

[@Mahrac126]

12:53 and so the truth about why Low ELO Legends exists comes out.

[@Pogaspm]

Me watching LEL: Lol what a noob Me struggling to beat 700 ELO players in game: 🥲

[@the515juggalo7]

I hear ya! I am mr. Forget crucial upgrades when it matters most guy.

[@xentis1501]

Can we get a LeL team game?

[@havingyarr]

It will be two imbalanced teams, the worse of the two consisting of one player who walls and booms without ever chatting, one player who gets rushed and resigns instantly, and the other who complains about his noob team.

[@hannibalfloyd]

@@havingyarr That will be most games yeah but that doesn't mean there can't be some lel team games that are entertaining to watch, just like not all 1v1s are entertaining

[@johnsmithe4656]

I would like to see 4v4 where there are two pro players and they each get 3 low Elo team mates. The pro can actually direct what he wants done and the minions then general it up on the battlefield. We would get to see the managerial skills of the pro players and take some of the serious decision making away from the lower level players who might not know so well what to do. We can see how the commanders talk to their underlings too and how effective their leadership is. Like, will a pro commander cuss out his team mates and tell them they're stupid? Or will he be supportive and positive? And which approach will work better?

[@hannibalfloyd]

@@johnsmithe4656 Oh. My. God. that is an insanely good idea, i would pay to watch that

[@MadnessTW]

Yeah, red had an eco lead for much of the game. He just needed to spend. Also, remember the APM counter in Capture Age is effective APM. Toggling through buildings doesn't add to it. Queueing up 5 units or selling 500 resources at once probably counts as 5 actions though. I know the higher APM player doesn't get much of a win rate boost from it, but it should be a relevant stat for those of us still growing to see how well we use our hotkeys and how experienced we are with multitasking. While it can be cheesed unnaturally high, that doesn't usually happen to the extent that it wouldn't be helpful.

[@EricBridges]

Nothing makes me happier than hearing T90 shout "SUPPPPLLLIIIIIIIIEEEESSSSS!'

[@raynightshade8317]

Orthodoxy, Strongholds, Madrasah, and Paper Money are all UTS i would love to see reworked or replaced.

[@kudosensei]

that market apm spike was 10/10

[@martins3993]

I love this LEL series and it has made me want to get into AoE2 again. I got it on release what feels like a lifetime ago but i guess i need to get a new version if i want to play MP, but which one? Is it the Definitive Edition?

[@kantanenakseli8886]

DE is the most active

[@martins3993]

@@kantanenakseli8886 Thanks a lot!

[@kenbeimer]

Oh one day I will get Slavs on a community game and I will sure do research the monk armor tech. I love every monk civ, that gets both redemption and blockprinting.

[@blitzmonster1]

At 630 elo this was so painful. Halbs and this would have been totally different

[@nicholasbrookes3728]

I want a 2023 SEXY T90 wall calendar!

[@nicholasbrookes3728]

Dressed as a different civ every month

[@loserdogygo]

i'd buy 12

[@Ganonmustdie2]

I feel like Red was using a strategy that works better on the AI than a human player. I could've sworn there were a few times this game where he intentionally took bad fights hoping to draw Blue into prolonged castle fire. Had it worked, Blue might have given up in frustration for all we know. As someone who's done similar strategies, it just doesn't work.

[@alexlloyd3850]

I like Better Call Saul better than Breaking Bad.

[@78910idontknow]

You're thinking of chris Higgins, played for Canadians about a decade or so ago. Btw, go Bears! Their goalie just had 3 straight shutouts.

[@DavidSmith-mt7tb]

Be honest T90. You saw he was Canadian and assumed he played some hockey sometime. lol

[@Feanlean]

T90 same here I live in Northern PA but I used to live in Southern PA close to amish for about 8 or 9 years

[@Patrick-oi9np]

Hey your videos are awesome and have been super heplful! But I was wondering if you could do a mini series on how to deafeat each level of the computer AI? I dont play much online at the moment and I just cant get past the Hard Ai. Would be awesome to see a mini series showcases each difficulty and how it gets harder and how to properly defend/attack against it.

[@sonofskeletor33]

Depends which map you're playing, but here are a few suggestions. 1. Use your scout to lame the AI in Dark Age, by stealing/killing sheep and also attacking their vills as they try to lure boars. It can really slow them down. Takes some practice while also keeping your own TC working though. 2. If you're having trouble getting Feudal Age rushed, build a watch tower at the front of the base. The AI army will often run away from a tower, particularly archers/skirms. You can also practice building small walls in towards your TC, which again acts as a major deterrent. 3. Practice your Dark Age. Personally I don't like copying other people's builds, as it takes the fun out of working things out yourself. I prefer a fast Castle Age time, and attacking then. Other people prefer to fight in Feudal, which I've always found more difficult against harder AI. Either way, working out your Dark Age build is crucial. 4. Have a plan. If you're opting for Feudal Age pressure, then work out which units you want, how quickly you can produce them, and what you're planning to do with them. Archers on the enemy woodline and/or berries is always a good start. If on the other hand you're opting for Castle Age pressure, decide whether you're going to knight rush, or castle drop, or event a combination of strategies. It takes a bit of practice working out how many vills you need to have enough of the relevant resources, and how quickly you can get to that stage. 5. Attacking the AI early is usually the easiest way to beat it. But if you prefer to boom up and fight in Imp, make sure you practice walling, and get a defensive castle up as early as possible. You need to be able to match the AI for villager production, so practice booming. And in Imp, make sure you build forward production buildings, and lots of them. You need to be able to spam units, because the AI will be spamming units at you. Hope this helps.

[@mkne2451]

I was watching the last vid then saw this pop up and sorry sockssy and Valas etc, but the real pros are playing now.

[@Girpon3]

Nice and late comment, but did not see anyone mention it. Brock Higgs is indeed hockey player born in 1992 and played both in the USA and Canada before 2017, then a bit in Europe (Slovakia), and in 2021 transfered back to Canada

[@caniuse3]

T90, if you ever want to make some t-shirt merchandise for your channel, I'd recommend peasants chopping straggler trees as the art. Everytime I hear you gripe about chopping straggler trees, it makes me lol for LEL.

[@TheJohnsonJohnny]

Please, what is that shortcut, to rotate house ... ? (for the same position to build) :-) Thanks

[@CaldenLees]

Breaking bad is probably one of the best series I have ever watched!

[@Danielscottrhoades]

I hope I can be a LEL one day

[@squatlebherz4434]

We can only dream of such excellence :'(

[@johnsmithe4656]

The question is, are you good-bad enough?

[@Danielscottrhoades]

By my estimate I'm a 1000 elo player in dark age and 500 elo player in any other point after that

[@maxdadbod5058]

T90 has been reigniting my interest in AoE2

[@kiriseraph9674]

Theres this game I've been trying to find. I think it was a Viper game where someone got inside his walls, I think with a siege tower, and got him completely backed into a corner, but he fought his way out with bombard cannons and won the game anyway. Does anyone know what game I am talking about?

[@demb0ww]

look up viper vs daut, it has spanish commentary and around 1.5m views if im not wrong

[@ivansolodyankin6820]

LeL series actually make me want to deboost myself to 500 elo and T90 cast me. I'll never do it, ofc, but the tempteation is there.

[@johnsmithe4656]

I'm 400 ELO and I see smurfs pretty frequently, they are even more common lower than 400. They start a game, resign, and wait the timeout, then sometimes they go all out and overpower lower level players to try to get on T90. I got a game set up with "Low Elo Legends" once (that was his name). I was about 200 ELO and this other player was apparently afk until well into Castle Age. I was getting ready to attack, went over to check out his base, said "you there?" (I wasn't about to attack an afk player without checking first) and then he proceeded to destroy me. Don't get me wrong, I found his base and razed it, but he kept migrating to new areas of the map and building new bases everywhere. Before long he was in Imp and I was getting pushed back. I think players do this to feel powerful. Like playing against Easy AI. Kind of pathetic IMO. Let the low Elos play the other Low Elos.

[@bronislauprestesBro]

I went deaf after the scream about the APM

[@snakepliska837]

Breaking bad is my 3rd favorite series behind stargate, and game of thrones.

[@THEHICKISslick]

Tried playing ranked for the first time last night and I got steam rolled so fast. XD

[@MaksymCzech]

Can steppe lancers attack over walls?

[@chorinev]

If the wall is only 1 tile, and the enemy is right next to it, then yes, because they have 1 range, such as kamayuks.

[@drona9]

How do you select all tc or all baracks?

[@sethrodgers5582]

There is a Brock Higgs now playing in the Austrian Hockey League

[@MoreD4U]

I’m from Albuquerque so Breaking Bad shows a ton of local places I go to frequently. The drug problems in the show are real too 😅

[@coreoncrack]

Why are they not walling each other in ??? it is the only propper meta !!! 🙂 I have a suggestion for vids! You with you skills take a LowEloLegend strat to the next level and show us how to overpower it ! Wall in the oponent and max eco behind the correct upgrades etc etc Sit sit sit sit and Boom 500 canon galions Make a Wall sit and get fatter and sloppier = More Swedish Maybe even the 8 starting baraks strat Do them 1 by 1 and we can see what works on higher play Copy the best and most strange strats with that as the main fokus point, but also dont make the mestakes they do, idle vils, stragler trees etc etc I would love series, where you take those strats and fight higher lvl players But not the 3 Archer ranges on middel Island, that strat sux to low elo !!

[@Pandemonium72]

Brock Higgs had a 2 game cup of coffee with the Boston Bruins AHL affiliate in Providence

[@tobias_cz8719]

"´S all good, man" more like "´S all gone, man"

[@00oKMo00]

Cumans also have feudal siege workshop and rams!

[@WiglyWorm]

Better Call Saul is definitely worth watching.

[@breg5993]

T90, Better Call Saul is really good. The last season is coming up soon. Definitely recommend giving the show a shot.

[@johnsmithe4656]

I watched the first season only, it was excellent. Shows how Saul became who he is. I need to catch up on the other seasons. It gets quite philosophical. I love shows that get philosophical.

[@Redhairedviking09]

Well, his brother did say that he's played lan parties in Amish barns at 2 AM, so who knows XD

[@shino4242]

Red lost more castles/kreposts than Ghengis Khan had kids.

[@Chizzoide]

I'll start building palisades in front of my trebuchets. That should throw people off really well. Also, mining exclusively stone instead of gold might make a lot of sense in feudal age to get around 170 gold per 100 stone in market.

[@Gui101do]

Definitely catch up on Better Call Saul if you get a chance. It's an awesome show.

[@thecanadian9105]

Whats T90 Hockey team? There's two in Pennsylvania

[@tylenol_jones]

genuinely, breaking bad is one of the greatest television shows ever made.

[@XTheLolX301]

Why he didnt make halbs?

[@squatlebherz4434]

If you fall down (and lose all your konniks and castles) do you give up? No! You get up and try the same strat again (and resign with dignity)

[@hassam363]

T90, what's your hockey team?

[@S0l1dZ3r0]

Watching this while I listen to Shamburger.

[@Guydebute]

Bontrol VS COOMER

[@unimportantcommenter4356]

The Cooman: OH GOD I'M BOOMING, AAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

[@TieTheLegoGuy]

I agree, Breaking Bad is top tier 🔥

[@johnsmithe4656]

Best series I'm aware of so far. Black Mirror is really good too, it's a different kind of show though. For movies "Don't Look Up" really destroys the competition.

[@WlatPziupp]

Saul Goodman has to go Konniks, he's a Konnman

[@ZMCFERON]

I dunno, feels like dismounted Bulgarian UU needs like another 20hp

[@reefah3765]

T90 never watched Peaky Blinders? Breaking bad is no where near the best :P

[@VersusMe101]

Sir Saul's APM spiked because he was laundering the last of his res for gold before running off with the money. 😂

[@kanedNunable]

need the ability to tag units or vils. i.e. one with VEGAN above his head, i wanna see how long he lives! :P

[@blarch2]

huh huh huh T90 said coomin

[@sextonhardcastle8696]

Imagine he would’ve went Habs jeeeezz

[@BinnyBongBaron_AoE]

Oh wow, you didn't finish Better Call Saul? Man, it's nearly as good as Breaking Bad, it's really well worth watching!

[@Auriorium]

Need to start playing ladder so I can become a Low Elo Legend XD How will you notice me? Fast tech. I usually build 2 Universities, 6 Blacksmiths etc. etc. so I can research faster.

[@MrBAILIES]

Red really needed to spend his resources..

[@stevelaw3886]

That was painful to watch. I look at his military as everything is getting trebbed - 10 units. Then I look at his res - 13k in the bank :(

[@dade4537]

I don't get imbeciles who have thousands of food and just don't mass produce some cheap army to horde enemy.

[@dominikmeril1720]

im like blue: first try to secure youre eco than buil da giant army. But i only play signleplayer because im trash:) do you think i should play some pvp to improve?

[@wray0275]

Dude. Play ranked. You will loose like 10, 20x and then you will fall into your elo level. Once you fall into your elo level you will have a blast playing online.

[@JesseLH88]

I really recommend everyone play multiplayer instead. If you're only playing single player, you are not really playing the game. That's like playing the first level over and over again. And dont worry about losing--just play.

[@Danielscottrhoades]

Definitely. The only way to improve is through experience. I'm trash too so I'm really just playing online casually and then when I encounter better players I'll rewatch the match once or twice to see what they did better than me

[@dominikmeril1720]

Ok thank you guys😁

[@onurgunes5839]

Guys seriously you should watch breaking bad

[@GrandeAcure]

Watch Better Call Saul now!!

[@derkatwork33]

Ha. I stopped watching the video. I’m just watching breaking bad for the first time. We literally got to the first Saul Goodman episode yesterday. I’ll finish this video later.

[@hanshintermann1551]

Skyler objectively did nothing wrong. She acted how most people would act if they found out their SO was cooking meth.

[@CraneArmy]

I dont think there is a lot of TV that is worth watching. breaking bad was worth watching.

[@vojtechvanek1686]

Amish of empirrs

[@garioldwin]

I never watched breaking bad just because the title of the show sucks. Used to joke my friend how can he watch a show where they only do bad breaking.

[@fall4sleepfall4sleep26]

breaking bad is amazing. 1 conversation can be so much better than all the stupid action you see everywhere.

[@demingyuen7]

trade war

[@weatherseed8994]

Huh. I thought something was Amish.

[@Quickeasyguitarlessons]

Fighting begins at 21:32 💪

[@johnsmithe4656]

To those in chat saying they didn't like Skylar from Breaking Bad, neither did I and that's kind of the point. She's perfect for the role she plays. She's the little-goody-2-shoes perfect mom who is so good she's bad. That's what makes the "I am the one who knocks" scene so good! Because Skylar really _didn't_ have any idea who her husband was, and she was so wrapped up in her little world of playing house that the revelation that her husband was the kingpin behind the local meth industry blew her mind and left her numb. That's one of the most iconic scenes of the show. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWK5oK1nfZljsKs

[@johnshep293]

First

[@mikeyoung3519]

I was so close

[@thatiowan3581]

Your mom was my first

[@Vazgen_Ghazaryan]

Such a horrible game....

[@k12rising]

Another lackluster match. Disliked.

[@vasiapapatidi9287]

630 elo???!!??!!!!!??!!??!! I'm 630 elo and im SOOOOOO much better than these noobs!!!!!!! That can't even control their scouts properly!!!!!!!!!!!! I face up against 30 knights at 17 minutes every game!!!!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@kanedNunable]

if you liked breaking bad, check out 'your honor' v good. similar feel.