Controller to Steering Wheel in Racing Games - When to Upgrade?

[@CSTBFO_jad]

Best description of the difference between potentiometers and load cells. Thank you.

[@diegombittencourt]

When? Day 1. Next question.

[@wesd3370]

Yeah seriously. If you are a racing enthusiast it is a no brainer. Even a G29 is a massive game changer.

[@Empire_of_Ravens]

😂

[@schakalicious6023]

@@wesd3370g29 is a rip off for what you get, g27 is the same exact functionality (same motor) for nearly 1/4 of the cost the key is to be patient

[@JoshuaVilca12]

I recently came across this channel by accident and my passion for racing has been reignited. Your knowledge, work ethic, attitude and passion are truly inspiring. Thank you so much for that, Suellio!

[@dash0173]

Bought a g29 a couple years ago with the intention of just playing things like forza horizon, beamng and now I have a full setup with a simagic alpha mini and p1000 pedals with haptic reactors bolted to a full frame and a VR headset for it all. It's genuinely amazing and I can spend 10+ hours in it with ease. Next step is to get a frame motion setup but I gotta get my own place for that first. the g29 is a GREAT intro because it has compatibility with literally everything. I could not find a game(that I cared about) that didnt allow for me to use my g29.

[@SKMST_fashion]

love it! Same story here 😂

[@pixelsam123]

Controller players: don't give up too fast. Just watching Suellio's videos and implementing them has sped me up by nearly a second on controller on most tracks

[@Devvodabos]

I been on wheel for almost 4 months now and lemme tell you I improved over time

[@chonglers1513]

Super GT made a comparison of both the controller and steering wheel on gran turismo sport and his lap times were the same but the wheel greatly preserved tyre wear

[@Xero5273]

I'm assuming this was due to the more precise inputs on the wheel?

[@emdotrod]

Playing racing games with controller is fun but kinda left me feeling wanting for more control of the car. Even the entry level wheel like G29 gives you better control of the car that will significantly improve your lap times.

[@pho5phoros]

I think it also depends on what are your setup possibilities. Back in 2020 I bought a driving force gt and modded it, to try it in a more "easy way" and I didn't enjoy my experience at all... I had to unmount everything, put it back to its place and a 25 minutes race became an hour long process. I started and then abandoned simracing, until then I tried again with a controller and, surprisingly, I enjoyed my experience much more, I became more consistent and, most of all, I started having more fun. Don't get me wrong, the wheel is still the best solution ever, but, if your desktop is thin and you don't have the space for it, I think that having a good pad could beat having a crappy wheel setup

[@spelking5]

Same I bought a wheel I hated mounting it and everything. So I returned it just for later to rebuy it when my friends got into it too. It’s more fun now.

[@BWB_Cubing]

1:09 nope i have always preffered more sim like games and sims but i actually only got a wheel about a month ago

[@storypunman]

It was a whole new world when we moved from a G29 to a Logitech G Pro wheel and Pedals. G29 still works perfectly, but it is permanently shelved after up-grading to DD and load cell pedals.

[@piotrzajac3990]

Suelio maybe you will make a video abaute proper understanding of force feedback

[@Secret_7.26]

Cool video as always

[@suan_pan]

hey, could you do a series on starting racing as a complete beginner? the most basic breaking, shifting, etc.

[@Kojwills]

I needed someone to twist my arm. Thanks!

[@ichizos9615]

I don't agree with "There is no way back" statement. It's always good to have some light alternatives. Old NFS Most Wanted still rocks and is a very nice to chill with Controller when done fighting with a wheel. Heck even Horizon 4 was pleasant with Controller and having Racing basics gave some advantages over non sim focused players.

[@tcrviper]

I will say this: With the new conrollers that have hall effect thumbsticks, I have a Gamesir G7 se controller, and I am now able to get that percision. I am by no means discounting this video. I just love the challenge of being good with a controller. Some may laugh, but I play PC1, and I really enjoy it. I don't have a gaming PC, only xbox series x. I get it..... iracing is going to be considered one of, if not the best, sim out there. Edit: I also have Assetto Corsa and Assetto Corsa Competizione.

[@jibrilxisreal8037]

I’m in this phase right now. Looking to get a Logitech G Pro set too. I’m finding some trouble in transiting from PS5 and GT7 and wanting to play that on a wheel but am definitely wanting to get in full sim action. I’m currently planning a PC build and Rig build to get it all done

[@BM350Z]

Just one more ingredient.. seat..do you agree with me it makes a huge effect how you position yourself at racing...can you make an episode about this pls 🙏

[@zepos]

I'm pretty sure it does, especially with getting accurate braking since for example you don't have a stand. Pushing heavily on a load cell pedal could push ur chair or tilt it back.

[@sirnato5218]

Now I’m not sure if I should get a wheel, I’m not sure I have the time to be hooked. Maybe I need to give up and just enjoy what I have

[@adityamaanas9470]

Sick vid!

[@AdvaithChandra99]

Thanks!

[@afrotonder]

Fuck yeah! Excellent and convincing vid! Im hella ready to make the jump! 🔥

[@Meerkat000]

Went from a controller to a CAMMUS C5. I went from Forza to Assetto Corsa with LFM/iRacing I went from having fun, to being completely and utterly hooked. Found out I have HyperFocus and true love for this hobby. I Go DD.

[@lacojanco7571]

me too - controller to cammus C5. Now im waiting for pedals with load cell (aliexpress). I have built wooden simrig, got two bass shakers. Since december I have driven more than 20 000 km in asseto corsa. Nice hobby

[@Meerkat000]

@@lacojanco7571 also getting bass shakers, coming this week! I got the SR-P pedals from MOZA (decent load cell budget), almost went alliexpress, tho I just wanted to race so bad I could t wait.

[@NightFire2003]

All I can say is that Max was ahead of everyone else in an iRacing race in the wet on the controller

[@Ghofy]

Amazing

[@jayjayp9618]

Good vid would disagree with buying a g29 tho old tech gear driven piece of 💩 better of saving the extra 150 and getting the ready to race csl dd bundle

[@miraclemaxicl]

when is it time to upgrade steering wheel after upgrading pedals?

[@jasonvoorhees5518]

I came back to controller I play rally games, and sometimes controller simply feels better in WRC9/10 that's the case in Dirt Rally 2.0 it is 50/50 and Forza Horizon qlso 5050

[@latinhar6797]

no momento nao tenho condiçoes de comprar um volante, mas mesmo assim jogo assetto corsa 1 e o competizione com um controle e apesar de parecer dificil no começo, eu aceitei o desafio e hj ate que me viro bem.

[@betrayed_cargo]

What do you think about purchasing a better wheel vs going from single monitor to triple.

[@3rddude]

When will the part 2 of car set up come out man? 🥹

[@CedKabandana]

Sup Suellio, I would like a video lesson with braking. I'm not asking for a full lesson, just a tip. I don't know how to play with rpm and sometimes i have to face downshift protection. My shift time is so bad...

[@skan8]

How about driving with gyro steering on a controller?

[@TheMineA7]

When should one switch from a logitech g29 to something proper with direct drive & loadcell i.e Moza or Fanatec (idk other brands)

[@jamel.b1563]

Il y a un tps d adaptation pour la transition et de petits réglages tel que FOV etc

[@thetellybridgerr]

I was on ps4 pro for a few years I have played GTs/GT7 and on my old ps3 grand tourismo5 which was my first ever videogame at age of 7. Now im 14 and I have tried out ac on my ps4 pro but I have switched to a newgen xbox seriesx and I wanna get more competitive. Would be the g29 or the t150 be better as my first wheel

[@vimacce]

Off topic, here in Brazil, I've been seeing advertising off your classes, with you spoken portuguese, it's that right? Or someone is stolen your content?

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Sou eu kkkkkk

[@vimacce]

cool @@SuellioAlmeida

[@redzone5655]

Because he is Brazilian.

[@mohammedesmile1552]

Hey brother,make a video on Kartkraft.

[@scarfejs_]

Once you adapt to motion sense control you are saving a lot of money

[@piotrzajac3990]

I got stering wheel but the only problem is recovery from overster

[@BiRRdYYChannel]

Don‘t oversteer in the first place 😉 honestly there is probably a reason why you spin. Try to identify that and fix it (e.g. too aggressive throttle input)

[@voongnz]

​@@BiRRdYYChannelyep, prevention is better than the cure. Guy is probably on the throttle too hard while turning, jumping off the brake or throttle too fast on turn in or brake bias is set up wrong or a combination of these and other things.

[@samshim3149]

I'm a noob, but I usually use one of two techniques to correct my oversteer. Depending on where the track is when I lose the car, I either lift a little and countersteer if necessary or give it some extra throttle while turning in a bit more to get it pointed back in the right direction. I find that I can correct it faster when I return the wheel to as close to straight as it can go without spinning the car even more while making the corrective steering inputs. Try to be smooth with the inputs or you might upset the car even more. Like the other guys are saying, it's best to try not to oversteer in the first place. Don't give it too much gas on exit without also releasing some steering. Like I said, I'm not an expert, but these are some things I've figured out so far.

[@vimacce]

I play on pc, but I don't have a wheel yet, but I want one asap...

[@vimacce]

F1 one, only for now...

[@Sagaris380]

Hey man. I just got a DD wheel and im looking to get going in Iracing. Am I okay to start with the basic game until I raise my Irating? Also in Canada btw!

[@bikeomatic8005]

I have ps5 with gt7/ea wrc and i just cant play on the controller, without aids i prolly wont go through the course unless super slow. I’m thinking of getting a rig, with seat etc. Budget maybe €2k - if I dont like it i will just sell it on. What should I get?

[@McLlama-qt7nu]

Cool video! I feel like my Bump is always gonna stay an example for struggling now xD Btw, could you share the Radical Skin for AC by any chance? Would like to give it a ride :)

[@BM350Z]

Next episode title....Moving from couch to racing seat 😅

[@user-tp9qb1pp1w]

What kind of controller would you recommend to get some feedback even for players with pad?

[@tcrviper]

I have the Gamesir G7 se. It has hall effect thumbsticks and triggers. I play mostly PC1, even though I have Assetto Corsa and Assetto corsa competizione. I get precision in the handling, breaking, and acceleration. It is a wired controller. But if you want wireless, Gamesir does have one, and there are other hall effect controller brands out there. I like wired because of not having to worry about charging and latency. The G7 se also has trigger motors as well as the rumble motors in the grip handles. You will not get this level of precision with potentiometer thumbsticks. I have some good potentiometer controllers, even with zero dead zones, which is a must to begin to even start having the precision.

[@user-tp9qb1pp1w]

@@tcrviper Hello there @tcrviper! Thank you so much for your thorough recommendation. I am using F710 from Logitech, it is a wireless controller, however as you mentioned, most of the time it just disconnects or stops working for brief moment, and it can ruin your gameplay. I watched a lot of videos about controllers, and also about the latency. High end wireless controllers such as Elite 2 the latency is negligable, and some times even lower than wired connection. I was looking at this gamepad too, however no one from my friends gave this brand a chance, so I am a little bit skeptic about it. Was also looking at Xbox carbon wireless in the same price category, but I am still hesitant. Anyway I might give Gamesir a chance, and see for myself.

[@leischi]

How did you do your paints on traiding paints? They are really cool

[@holzhobelgruen9759]

Would you recommend to start with a Cammus C5 and second hand CLS pedals?

[@akuatomic6969]

what if i use a keyboard

[@niallrice5759]

How much dose the moter racing cost

[@vnxrs]

if the game that someone is playing support mouse for steering its much better, you can have much more control of the steering (if you dont have money like me)

[@superstar5042]

Asap as you got the money

[@iValkyrie46]

When? When you have the money of course

[@arny_-_]

Hey suellio. I used to have a ferrari 458 thrustmaster but it was only for xbox nad its pretty bad. Do you think the moza r5 bundle is good for a beginner?

[@SuellioAlmeida]

yes!

[@pufffercbb9457]

Wait, is that [diver] or [yoga] shoes? whats keyword can I search for it? seems so compact and nice for simrace! my pedals were kinda sharp🤣so drive on naked feet or socks not my favor....

[@vetlerradio]

Driving shoes and racing shoes would be the terms you're searching for.

[@pufffercbb9457]

@@vetlerradio Oh thx for reply, i already bought the [indoor] shoes, those are works good and cheap but a little loose for me. I've consider the racing shoes but they are not looks that breathable, and kinda overshoot for just simrace indoor. XD

[@NeoGeo822]

When you upgraded but still have to use a controller since Fanatec hasn't shipped your stuff yet😐

[@vth55_]

I Don't have a computer or a console, what are the specifications to be able to play these simulators with good performance?

[@vth55_]

I'm thinking about buying a computer and a steering wheel

[@robbyinternet]

why don't you play rfactor?

[@Tqxkz]

I want to start but no money💔💔💔💔💔

[@kelsondecastro5656]

Eu vendo o vídeo 1 dia depois do meu G29 ter chegado :o

[@ErikS308]

Get a wheel when you get the game. Don't even mess with the controller.

[@CaptainCrunch99]

Absolutely do not buy any pedal set or pedal wheel combo that does not have a load cell on the brakes. Otherwise you will probably learn bad habits and then waste time un-learning them when you eventually come to the realization that you needed a load cell brake.

[@thrasherdave1428]

Yeah I'm thinking Thrustmaster T300 bundle for PlayStation and the Fanatec CSL DD + load cell kit for PC