Convertible Truck...Can't "Convert"?? (GMC Envoy XUV)

[@brianw8963]

You never cease to amaze, Ivan! That fella made a long journey to the promised land of diagnostics and I’m sure He was not disappointed. Nice work Ivan! 👍👍🇺🇸

[@joghh]

You are so thorough yet to the point. I am thankful for your video. It helped me immensely. YOUR EGO ISN'T TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT YOUR TRYING TO SAY! You are a true teacher, and your video is great!

[@nickbee1291]

Ivan, while I'm thrilled to death that you have customers willing to travel hundreds of miles if not more just to have a diagnosis and repair by a quality technician, I am just amazed that there isn't a national group of technicians that can perform efficient, high level diagnostics that customers can research and contact for instances like you so often see. I am also a remote diagnostician. While I am busy in my own right, I empathize with customers who have been to multiple shops and have spent sometimes multiple thousands of dollars for a diag that sometimes takes me one to two hours tops. Keep up the great work as always.

[@ourtexasfamilyvideos62]

Unless I am mistaken, I think Scanner Danner is working on a list of techs.

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Eric @ Advance near Houston, Eric @ South Main in western New York State.

[@abbsgarage.9676]

There is many good one here in the tube... from different places and states a lot of good ones.

[@kc360awareness]

@@stealthg35infiniti94 Wrenching with Kenny is in NC. Works at a shop called Joe & Moe’s.

[@shuriKen469]

sounds like most are in the northeast. sucks for anyone west of the Mississippi.

[@retireditguy9493]

Hey! I had a “convertible Truck”. It was a 1979 Chevrolet Trailblazer. It was dead reliable and went 310, 000 miles before it was given away to a guy who wanted it to do some desert off-roading. The windows never failed to work (they were all hand crank including the tailgate window) and the “convertible” roof came off reliably after you removed all the fasteners and had 2 fairly strong people lift it off.

[@deweycheatem1474]

Have to razz you a bit here Ivan, the gate switch is signal level only, not designed to do actual work. The counter EMF from the latch solenoids will tear it up in time. A relay of a few amps at DC rated and reverse diodes across the contacts for long life and suppression is called for here. Interesting video on an interesting vehicle ! Have a great day.

[@paulravitsky2898]

That button was designed to signal a processor. I don't think it will handle the unlock solenoids current for very long. I would have used a relay controlled by that switch to control the unlock solenoids. That would have allowed you to use a ignition switched 12v source to provide a way to prevent operation without someone with a key being present. Nice work!

[@titaniumman_22]

I caught myself smiling with the owner when he opened the back door…nice work Ivan.🇺🇸

[@Sandmansa]

I remember hearing about these things, but I've never actually seen one in the wild. Cool stuff Ivan. To bad it's no longer repairable. I would have loved to see it work as intended.

[@braaapattack2937]

theres 3 of them i see regulary still here in western ny, those things were a problem from the first day

[@gillgetter3004]

Friends wife had one of these years ago, they both worked for GM. I remember him showing me how it worked and me thinking , hmmm to much crap to go wrong

[@crisprtalk6963]

9 hours. KZbin is an incredible tool.

[@billkaczynski7709]

All that fancy stuff comes back to haunt us! Personally, I don’t want it, don’t need and most of all don’t want to have to pay for something that when it fails the parts are not available. Way back in the fifties there was a station wagon that had this pseudo pickup feature. It was all manual and it worked. You didn’t need a genius like Ivan to open a door! Great Russian hack very impressive. Made Mr. William a happy customer.

[@dskwared2u610]

I respect your Russian hack. It's pretty cool you're willing to help people that drive in from other states. Don't worry though. I'm a bit too far.

[@Grayhook1]

Great work, as usual 🙌🏻!! It makes me wonder if heart surgeons ever giggle and say ‘neat’ during surgery. This was an oddity needing a knowledgeable Russian hack. Perfect!

[@jeremyah78]

Nice hack there Ivan! That’s taking it to the next level for the customer! Makes you rare my man!

[@roxanneabbott8424]

I use to live in NC, I miss it terribly!! Hi Ivan, great job on this one!!!

[@paulv7217]

Fancy features = fancy problems

[@joshuabest100]

Fancy repair bill

[@udrtydog1]

The MASTER! Ivan, you bring the term "Master Tech" to new levels!

[@bradc9491]

By rigging the rear door to open without using the module, you also lose the function that you didn't know about that lowers the rear window an inch when you use the button handle. It also automatically raises the window that inch when the door is closed. Using the key in the door will work the window and door latch, though it probably works through the module.

[@richardnilsen5]

Solutions first all others to the end of the Line nice hack👍 Great vidio

[@cullenmiller8170]

Nice video and diagnosis. I figured you would rig up some relays and momentary switches to operate every function. 😂😂

[@jw6825]

Or just give the customer that scanner.

[@stevestadnik9206]

Cool find and repair. My Dad's old Buick wagon had a tailgate that could swing open, or drop down mechanically. Also you could put key in gate and turn to roll down window. Was a great machine for moving. Fold rear seats down and could swallow a 7 foot couch and close up. Keep up the good work!

[@arnemalmkvist8553]

You are super smart , you have the patience of an angel and can study a solution that works. You solve those flea problems in a simple way 👌. Imagine if someone else thought outside the box From Sweden

[@robpeabo509]

This repair does get the owner out of a bit of a bind. As a suggestion, a switch mounted up front somewhere in series with the circuit would allow the tailgate button to be disabled when required so the owner can leave stuff in the rear.

[@michaelslee4336]

That was my exact thoughts as well.

[@rancelynch6514]

Another job well done and best of all a satisfied customer who is HAPPY to have made the drive to have Ivan make the problem go away! You can’t get any better than that.

[@ChrisGrazioli]

How many GM "Techs" ever end up with customers driving half the eastern seaboard to get a fix at a fair price and leave happy. You RULE bro!

[@scrappy7571]

Never had the misfortune of working on those. Actually never saw one, and I've worked in gmc dealers since 1989. We would have sent that guy packin. Good job for you!

[@mattbrown5511]

That makes for a piss poor stealership. Might be a reason why they have a certain reputation.

[@scrappy7571]

@@mattbrown5511 Not really, because the time billed to diagnose and repair would certainly exceed what that junker is worth. Besides, if any parts are needed they are most likely obsolete. So let guys like Ivan who have time to tinker fix it. Besides, I have brand new broken down cars lined up out to the street, no time to tinker with old junk.

[@mattbrown5511]

@@scrappy7571 So new junk designed by idiots over old junk designed by the same idiots. Good plan. Same reputation for the technicians that mess up as often as they succeed.

[@vwwrenchie314]

at PHAD. if you can diagnose it, they will come...😅.all the way from NC

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Ivan, you have been blessed to think outside the box. That was a great modification!😊

[@ohfugit]

An even better fix ! You sold them out of Scopes again

[@htownblue11]

“GMC ENVOY” - From the French word Onvoy meaning always sending broken messages usually in cryptic code with regards to a strange looking stage coach that cannot decide why it looks like it does…. Very strange culture the French have but GMC nailed it.

[@huntnfishnuts5880]

Great fix to keep the customer happy, unusual truck I've never seen one.

[@normyanke2515]

love it, impressed my boss when I first started, long expensive helicopter trip into communications site, no audio, didn't have the parts, I bypassed a couple circuits, changed levels, bingo.....back on. Fixed on next trip when it was necessary.

[@lvsqcsl]

Seems like they made this vehicle until 2005 and only on the long wheelbase GMC Envoy. This rides on the GMT360 platform along with the Chevrolet Trailblazer, Oldsmobile Bravada, Buick Ranier, Saab 9-7X, and the Isuzu Ascender. ( The Chevy and GMC were offered in 2 wheelbase lengths.) This is designed similar to the Chevrolet Avalanche only the roof slides. My uncle had a 1963 Studebaker Wagonaire that did the same thing with the roof; you just did it manually and they tended to leak. (Not to be confused with the Jeep Wagoneer.) Beginning in 1966 Ford had a dual action tailgate on their station wagons that opened like a door to the side or dropped down like a tailgate; you had to have the window down to do either. Beginning in 1969 the tailgate could open to the side with the window up or down. I haven't watched the whole video, but I sense some "Russian repairs" coming on.....Great video!

[@bradc9491]

GMT 365. The rear of the frame is slightly different and it is only used for the XUV.

[@timbow50]

I love that ride. Immaculate for age. And your abilities keep me watching.

[@reyesubiera3437]

that's some serious troubleshooting Ivan. Damm, you are good at troubleshoothing things and making hacks if you cannot find the correct part to fix the problem as long the customer is happy. Love to watch all your videos.

[@GreyRockOne]

Nice work! Another happy owner, seems like a nice guy! Hard to believe flea-bay or the dealer don't have a module

[@nomad4x]

Pretty cool work around, you cold tell the owner was happy with the solution!

[@robertdiehl9003]

Cool paint job in my opinion... Different, cool and distinctive for 20 year old truck.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Ohio State colors :)

[@saltycreole2673]

"It's a puzzlement"! -The King of Siam.

[@craiggoodwin9704]

Ivan, I bet you enjoyed that "Russian work around" as much as your customer did. I liked it too! Thanks for Sharing!

[@rick5515]

What a great week. So many new post and learned from each one of them. Thank you.

[@CrimeVid]

I always liked my dad’s Austin A75 estate that had a split rear door, you could drive with the top part of the door open for extra ventilation or for moving long stuff. Not an electron in sight apart from lights(manual switch),everything worked until the bodywork escaped !

[@KRTube75]

I thought I knew pretty much ever vehicle ever made but I've never heard of or came across a GMC Envoy XUV. This is the oddest vehicle I've ever seen.

[@BigWheel.]

I've seen these for sale.

[@ronfrance4041]

I remember the tv ad for them. Have seen maybe 1 or 2 in person

[@brianw8963]

Yep, never new these existed.

[@Sandman317140]

I own this one and I never knew they existed till I started to look for them. I have seen one 4 miles from home and another in the small town I live near, go figure. Very easy to spot because of the chrome trim around both sides of the back glass. Only on the XUV.

[@cliffyb5896]

Why would they design that in that manner. It's broken but you can't access it to fix it because it's broken. At least you were able to unplug it and manually power it to gain access.🤔 love the vids, learn a lot from them.

[@clintprice2123]

Nice job on getting it functioning so he can get use of the bed. You never cease to amaze me. As usual I’m looking forward to the next video.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

You got it working in a "sort of manual" way. Access to the back is good now. Perhaps a fused switch at the fuse box to cutoff power to the opener switch would give added security protection. Just a thought.

[@Joserocha-wm9de]

That's a pretty neat truck/xuv type of thing 👌

[@wileycrutchfield6958]

There is an xuv in the LKQ pick your part in Charlotte

[@pdzh]

I am willing to travel for a kniwn good diagnosis people, this is why I have Ivan as my number 1 guys on the list for crazy vehicle issues. Lol, I spoke to few local mechanic about diagnostics with scope and they look at me and say, it's not like you are working with radios, why do you need scope in the car? 😂

[@eddiereichel9354]

One of my first good customers had one. This was like 5 years ago when I first opened my shop. He brought me one of these with a issue which he had installed a aftermarket rear gate window regulator and it never worked right after. Window would roll down with up button and up with down button. The replacement regulator polarity was wrong. It caused while thing to malfunction because the roof and gate are all tied together and have limit switches and it someormes opens like a old station wagon or window down back gate opens like tail gate on pickup

[@eddiereichel9354]

If I remember right one of the modules would only talk to the tech 2.

[@dustcommander100]

That was beautiful! Repurpose parts of a too-complicated system to make it useable! I remember when those vehicles came out, but never have been in contact with one. I have to question the practicality of that system when the top opens but the sides stay in place. I hope you have a re-engineering fee in addition to a diagnostic fee.

[@jgeorges3061]

IVAN, AWESOME work you rock brother.

[@user-yw6ei8yt4q]

Like the equipment that you use , especially the Bic click pen, that is my favorite, use it all the time.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

It;s the perfect pen!

[@SilveradoXST]

So cool! Nice fix! Oh man, the oscilloscope is sold out again!

[@paulmuff9883]

Excellent job, if companies are going to keep on putting loads of modules in that fail there should be a law that they have to make tons of spares !

[@charleshenshaw9099]

The part storage continues. But that doesn't stop Ivan. Lol

[@danl981]

So when functioning properly when the swing gate release is operated the rear window rolls down just a hair and when the gate is closed the window goes back up. This is so the rear window would have a solid channel to secure it if other windows were open, as the back becomes a parachute collecting air.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Happy customer again 👍

[@QBRX]

What a cool vehicle. I want one!

[@larrybe2900]

I like the styling way better than the Avalanche.

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Convertible truck got "converted" 🙂 Nice solution for an impossible problem - a small module that is no longer available! This is unfortunate, as all the mechanical parts seem to be in very good shape.

[@anilgurung4353]

Nice work man 👍👍

[@advancedleveldiagnostics]

Nice job and a nice repair, Thanks!

[@matte.hartman]

You know you're good when people drive nine hours just to let you work in their cars! 👍🙂

[@dendkmac]

Interesting module on that envoy There has to be a junkyard out west in Arizona or Nevada they probably have 10 😊 waiting for someone to grab the modules

[@Jay73.69]

Nice Job! 👍🏼

[@robrus1033]

Endgame control module in the tailgate. IF YOU CAN find it online it'll run you $400.. unless you can find it online. I got lucky to find it online AMAZON for $142. but GM also changed the part number for some reason.

[@vwwrenchie314]

GM engineers: oh yeah U remember that weekend when we got all messed up and designed the Transformer Envoy..

[@randy1ization]

reminds me of the old stationwagons from the 70s

[@johnmilner6484]

I seem to recall one of these vehicles with the same issue on Watch JR Go

[@billmalec]

Pretty cool vehicle. Didn't know it existed. But that stripe...🤦

[@bdagle]

Great job Ivan! But I think I would have added a relay to take the load off of that button?

[@zx8401ztv]

Well done ivan :-D Its fun to bypass stupid systems, if he was worried about security, maybe rig up a ignition on relay so your mod only gets power when the ignition is on. But he is happy :-D

[@rancelynch6514]

Adding a ignition on relay to your door latch modification is very good thinking (thinking outside the box)

[@flatdaddio]

I like the idea of the Envoy I think they are pretty cool. Some come with V8's as well. I was thinking of buying one until I read of all the problems they have with things like this. Cool video Ivan!

[@brentsmith4528]

So cool to watch the video of Rare type of vehicle I never saw one of these before until about 6 months ago in a junkyard in West Bend Wisconsin The vehicle looked pretty well intact but I don't remember if it had a convertible roof, Unfortunately due to a snafoo with my phone not saving pictures or saving to the cloud I lost them cause I did take pictures so that I could look it up later and find out what this thing was I was looking at. Always great videos, Ivan keep it up Thanks

[@jay7264]

some really smart fella out there could probably make an arduino simulate some of these stupid modules

[@baxrok2.]

Ivan, you're a legit automotive badass! Thanks for putting out such interesting and entertaining content.

[@Paramount531]

To me, this model was like the second coming of the Studebaker Wagonaire, a great concept that was a bit flawed in its execution. They didn't sell many of these XUVs, something also common to the Wagonaire.

[@KingsWeldingandAutomotive]

Cool fact: some of these came with an all aluminum Chevy LS 5.3 . Which is what I chose for my 69 Camaro!

[@ProblemChild-xk7ix]

Should have been wired from the factory without all the modules. Limit switches always worked in the past. Now we have to have communication through computers.

[@ecaparts]

I was thinking you may have better success using the Tech2 to talk to the Roof Module. The Chinese scan tools don't always work right, especially for rare uncommon modules. Thanks for the video, Ivan!

[@RK-kn1ud]

Unlikely. The other modules in the car are also unable to communicate to the roof module.

[@mikesabin8568]

No because other modules had codes for not communicating with it as well.. nothing to do with scanner

[@jerryford1012]

Worked on them at the dealer a lot water leaking caused a lot of problems they really are great when it works if you need a factory repair manual I have one

[@t5ruxlee210]

"Boolean Algebra" always drills down to the simplest, best, answer. (;-)

[@johnwestbrook2476]

Envoy. A messenger or representative, especially one on a diplomatic mission.

[@murphy1772]

Yes nowadays there is too many features and sensitive electronics what the old persons not normally needed. Those are good but if failed only Ivan can fix or swap those economic way. Ten points from Finland again (very soon we are also at NATO , as US.

[@nikkojones2784]

Brilliant diagnostician solves module fail in the wild (away from his Bear cave) w/wire strippers & electrical tape. Ivan the Russian McGyver 🤣

[@lvsqcsl]

Seems like Dodge offered the Dakota in the early '90's as a convertible.

[@frankbose544]

wonder what the microcontroller they used in that module looks like it has a logic shifter which you would need to send 12v to a most likely 3v3 logic micro

[@TimDyb]

20:09 We called it "Candy Coating" 😉

[@melvinjones3895]

As long as it works and you could not send that green board out to have it checked out. dI bet it was water from a Hurricane in the Carolinas .

[@photodan24]

"Guess what the customer complaint is." My first thought was, "It's ugly?"

[@edwardbella3871]

Good work ivan.

[@kerrylewis2581]

That's only the second truck I've seen like this. The other channel had to replace the entire roof system because everything but the module you needed was broken. Luckily JandJAutowrecking had the roof.

[@islipfdchief]

The CONVERTIBLE Roof On My GMC Envoy XUV Is COMPLETELY Broken *Troubleshooting* " WatchJRGo" about 2 years ago ?

[@robm3063]

@@islipfdchief yes

[@robm3063]

and this roof unit is a unicorn

[@kerrylewis2581]

@@islipfdchief Yes

[@AMStationEngineer]

Ivan, in this vehicle's ownership history, was it ever owned by a hopital, volunteer and/or for-profit EMS Basic and/or Advanced Life Support provider?? GMC Envoys made for some of the finest "Fire/EMS CHASE UNIT" starting points. Please, search for accessory electrical harnessing in the areas of the rocker sills, all the best, Tim, (am very appreciative of your ethics, and PHAD's strive for/towards quality!

[@rafaelmarin1963]

I would drive from Mexico for your diagnosis. Saludos amigo Ruso.

[@fieldsofomagh]

Another rabbit out of the hat and the magic continues. No parts required and the customer goes home happy.

[@d.a.2742]

Mods are cool but you have to look past the cool factor and think of the x-factor at the possible complications down the road as nothing is made forever and nothing lasts especially in the automotive world ! Excellent diagnosis Ivan !

[@adamtrombino106]

That's a real odd ball. I guess the only thing I'd be worried about as far as the gate, would be do you think the switch will be able to handle the current for long?

[@jakeandrus690]

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the relay could have been repurposed with the switch on the control side just to save the contacts

[@noeygarza64]

Once again , Great job

[@adotintheshark4848]

Exhibit A as to why you don't need modules: the tailgate latches!

[@gerrymoeller]

I have one of those XUV's in our pick-n-pull yard here in town. I've seen a few come thru there..

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

I wounder if it has the Power Roof Module still on it ;)

[@gerrymoeller]

@Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics its been there a few month's. I'll check it out this week and see on my next trip.

[@gerrymoeller]

​@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics .. Ivan I picked up that module. Looks good but unknown if it works as I can't bench test these. It does look like it tries to communicate when it's powered up for about 5 or 10 seconds.. let me know if you or the customer wants it to try..

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@gerrymoeller Hey Gerry, that would be fantastic! Send me an email at [e-mail] THANK YOU!

[@Blazer02LS]

Now make a polarity reversing switch for the roof and rear window and everything would work again! Without the stupid modules!

[@KennyNica]

You would need to locate the hall effect position sensors and get them working so it would turn off/on when in correct position. Or replace them with micro limit switches.

[@Blazer02LS]

@@KennyNica Most of those motors will have the same internal limiters as other GM motors, they will turn off at the current spike when the window or roof reaches end of travel. Plus if the owner wants to use the options he just remembers window first roof second. Or scour a few salvage yards to see if a module can be found.