Converting A Push Button Automatic Knife Into A Button Lock Manual (ILLEGAL To LEGAL)

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[@JoeDurobot]

*It just shows how stupid knife laws are.* *With or without the spring it's the same knife once it's open.* *Not sure how it's somehow more dangerous with a spring.* *Not that criminals will follow the law anyway, they will stab you with a 9 inch long kitchen knife from Walmart.* *Regarless of what the law says about blade lenght, fixed blade, conceal carry etc ...*

[@ChanceCooper125]

JoeDurobot it's about intimidation. Kinda like how a lot of people want to ban AR-15's and not other guns that fire the same rounds at similar speeds. Automatic knives make people feel uncomfortable for whatever reason. People tend to fear what they don't understand.

[@JoeDurobot]

*Someone waving a big ass kitchen knife at me makes me uncomfortable, yet it's not illegal to own in any state.* *Even in countries like the UK with very strick laws big ass knives are legal.*

[@olioli4057]

JoeDurobot the UK has a length ban for carry knives but sale of knives over that limit are allowed e.g kitchen knives. I do agree criminals would not follow this law however it's harder to conceal a giant arse kitchen knife.

[@BananaMana69]

In Canada and probably some states the laws were actually written when automatic stilettos and butterfly knives were the only knives the you could open with one hand and they saw one handed opening dangerous. A few years later Spyderco put the hole in their blades to open them one handed and its just evolved from there.

[@kalleager4839]

Thumbstuds came before the Spyderco hole.

[@MCWren]

Aaaaaaand now it's an illegal gravity knife by NY law

[@kropotkln]

Even if other knife laws remain more or less unchanged, gravity knife legislation (especially the "centrifugal force" clause) needs to be thrown off the books with extreme prejudice. Almost any common folding knife can open by "centrifugal force" if you try hard enough. Gravity knife legislation has done nothing for society besides easy pay days for bored NYC cops. At the expense, of course, of the otherwise innocent but extremely unlucky stop-and-frisk recipient in the blue-collar neighborhood.

[@logan2669]

you know what knife opens super fast and isn't illegal in canada a fixed blade

[@gmg921]

swiss army knife lol

[@ScottieG59]

Maybe someone commented on this. It looks like the spring acts as the bushing on that side of the blade not pivoting on the scale. I think something would have to be added to provide that support, such as a stack of bushings.

[@xKaidoh]

Hi Jeff, just wanted to let you know, since you stated at the beginning of the video you don't want to do anything illegal, based on the legal definition in NY: ...any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever or other device. This is still considered a gravity knife, which would make it illegal.

[@shadesofrgey]

Sounds like that would include Benchmade Axis locks, SOG Arc locks, Spyderco piston, and all the Chinese clones.

[@xKaidoh]

Actually if you read some of the news articles online, you will find that the police do arrest people when they are able to flick the knives out. NY is pretty messed up with it's knife laws. if you just do a random search, you can find plenty of cases where people are trying to amend the laws, but keep on failing.

[@metro2673]

So I can carry a gun(weapon) but not a knife(tool).....seems a little dumb.

[@nathanwoj2244]

I'm from New York and I still carry mine as an auto. But your version would still be illegal bc it can now be considered a gravity knife.

[@rabbitslayer42]

You shouldn't have removed the pivot, would have made reassembly much easier

[@cutlerylover]

you cant get the spring out without removing the pivot and blade since it wraps around the pivot screw

[@rabbitslayer42]

I was able to remove and replace mine just fine.

[@Snoekvisser1972]

Yes, only the pivot screw.

[@rabbitslayer42]

Mr. Dickenphete, what ever you say man...I'm the troll here, yup... how dare I state something I know would have worked

[@rabbitslayer42]

Are you guys stupid enough to think I was talking about the pivot screw?

[@JunkyBlake]

During assembly I always put my pivot shank in first, through the blade. That keeps the blade and washer aligned so you can start the body screws

[@Blake-jl8lh]

Not relevant to the topic, but i really enjoy how friendly you are in your videos when you sign off.

[@cutlerylover]

thanks Blake :) I mean it, hope you have a nice day

[@liamvincent8066]

that's now legally a gravity knife, I live in Canada so it would still be illegal

[@rabbitslayer42]

Springs are bad...no springs are bad....screw it all knives are bad!!!!!!! careful or they might ban hockey next...all those people skating around on illegal blades

[@liamvincent8066]

rabbitslayer42 lol knife laws are weird

[@soulzreaperx]

Cool video. I also live in New York, sucks not being able to order some knives

[@99GrandAM3400]

If you never planned on making it automatic again i could have ground down the end of the spring that corresponds with the hole in the blade to take up the space between the handle and the blade so that it was supported and not running on the inside of the knife handle. Or made a bushing with a washer.

[@randyyeager]

I'd have left the female part of the pivot screw in...woulda made it much easier to put back together...

[@ratioed1438]

I'm pretty sure it would still be illegal since it would now act like a gravity knife.

[@cutlerylover]

If that was true then half the locks out there would be considered a gravity knife since the blade can swing open or closed freely once disengaged like the axis lock or compression lock ect...button lcosk are legal thats all were creating here by removing the spring...

[@001fishman]

Unless a law changed in the last 5 years since I stopped working at a police station and moved from NY that knife is still illegal. A push button knife operated by gravity or inertia is illegal. It has to be operated by a thumb stud fixed to the blade.

[@john050994]

also just a little tip. put the female pivot in before you try putting the scales together. it keeps the washers in place.

[@mercMADCommando]

Nice tutorial. I wonder if you could get issues with this being considered a gravity knife though. Same idea as an OTF one just it's a folder.

[@abbybonilla4511]

I don't get why knives are regulated almost like guns like wtf

[@TacticalPatriot-hd7hl]

LoneWolfEddy Bonilla it's because of the movies in the sixties portraying stilettos as more deadly than any other knife because it opens "quickly" even though my CS Spartan opens 10x faster.

[@TacticalPatriot-hd7hl]

Charles Montoya I'm actually talking about American regulation, but you are also correct.

[@Adamanteus08]

And he is talking about the Italians living in America.

[@abbybonilla4511]

Those laws applied to way back in the day, shouldn't they be repealed? I mean shit knives are tools and that's a very different ballgame.

[@TacticalPatriot-hd7hl]

Charles Montoya oh ok, I read it wrong the first time.

[@loganjames4607]

URGENT NOTE TO VIEWERS. Do NOT do this modification to your Kalashnikov. The spring prevents the blade from slamming into the backspacer of the knife. Closing this knife with gravity is very fun, HOWEVER, without the spring, the blade will hit the backspacer and leave a HUGE knick in the blade. Reprofiling is the only remedy.

[@dabmeme8251]

could you do a knife collection update I know its a lot to ask but it has been a while

[@laklander1447]

Seems like it would be easier if you put the pivot in the bottom half of the knife to hold the blade stationary.

[@ronaldroberts8515]

Thanx for video as I just got the mini in Aus 8 and want it to be auto.

[@SolidSnakeSwag]

Yo Jeff I have been watching your videos for years now bro. you are what got me loving knifes and i thank you for that. but in all that time i have never actually sharpend one using a sharpening stone. so if I could make only one request is if you could make a video or a few videos on how you do it or the different ways it could be done. thanks in advance my friend.

[@Civiliansoldier762]

The majority of knives are T8 pivots and either T8 or T6 body screws.

[@Chapoyh]

The blade also hits the spacers if you swing it closed like an axis lock with the button pressed. You have to release the button before you completely close it to avoid that.

[@sophrosyne2671]

Correct me if I'm wrong but does this make it a gravity knife?

[@theLuigiFan0007Productions]

Yes.

[@Reptiliancentaur781]

Kinda maybe but it definitely makes it a flick or centrifugal knife

[@KILLKING110]

hopefully here in Colorado we can repeal the switch blade ban its on the consideration to repeal portion right now.

[@JoeDurobot]

*I'm curious to know if Jeff included the spring or not when shipping the knife to that dude.* *Would have been funny if he didn't because it was kind of a dick move to have the knife shipped there, expecting Jeff to break the law by sending it to NY, and pay for the shipping.* *All that with no warning or prior contact.*

[@Bladsmith]

Yes he did, that's what he said in the last video.

[@JoeDurobot]

*I know it's what he said, still wondering if he did it lol.* *He could have been trolling the dude.*

[@mattnordlich184]

Besides the spring acting as a bushing so the blade doesnt wobble, when you depress the button and hold it until blade closes it some times hits the inside stud and damages the blade edge. Cool mod at first but not worth it.

[@rumeunner3245]

I've seen this done with many otherwise illegal knives, but with a small nail nick made into the blade for easier opening.

[@BitchyBoxxy]

come move to texas jeff. carry any knife down here.

[@robg836]

It's not automatic but now it's considered a "gravity" knife and still ILLEGAL In New York State.

[@LtSurvival]

Thanks i didn't know how they were done. one thing i would of keep the female part of the pivot screw in for reassembly.

[@BenTvHowman]

Probably not leagal here in Australia ether. I have an auto comb and a butterfly comb. Good thing too cos the amount of times the comb hits my hand is more than I'd like to admit

[@bigpapajmt]

I have one that has a lot of the paint wore off the handle. What will be that best way to repaint it. I really like the flat black on that one.

[@ShakerHP]

What bit tool driver are you using??

[@cbfall]

Fantastic tutorial video,Jeff!!

[@fizzlemaster5242]

Hey what is that blue torkscrew gadet cos I want one

[@voivodeofwallachia7386]

Fizzle Master52, I have a set like that which I purchased at Lowe's. It's a Kobalt brand, and I believe I paid around $15. for it.

[@KnifeCultureUSA]

Can you do this with a pro tech auto?

[@omg-originalmattgaming2863]

What's the difference in the knives mentioned below,?I think there r two types mentioned

[@frenchieedc7602]

Next time for the reassembly put the female pivot screw at first and then put the blade in it. Much more simple !

[@lukehubl6733]

What's a good place that that I can get really small washers and screws for knifes

[@stevenp1892]

Jeff, I believe in New York you are also not allowed to have a locking knife. Also here in Florida you can open carry anything, or concealed carry with a CWL.

[@rabbitslayer42]

If only there was an amendment to the constitution that gave people the freedom to bear arms

[@xxxmonstrosity8469]

Would you think there would be a way to legalize an out the front automatic?

[@jciarkowski3109]

I know i'm late to this but wouldn't removing the spring give it blade play?

[@GalaxyStranger01]

I just purchased this knife - is there a way to break-in the button at all? It's so stiff it's uncomfortable and makes my thumb sore.

[@stumpdiggitty]

Think I could take the spring out of my boker, and put it in my Benchmade Bugout?

[@edwardposton2211]

i could be wrong, but doesnt that make it into a gravity knife?

[@zackcollette9406]

Hey Jeff any plans to do a gun collection vide in the future

[@Datsyukiandeke]

Thanks for the video Jeff!

[@leepatty6543]

Great video. I’ve got the the same knife, the problem is when I unscrew the top screw the female pivot turns as well. I’ve tried to hold it but still turns. Anyone got any ideas. Really need to get cover off. ☹️

[@BzRTriniq]

you would have to look up your state, but auto knifes are not illegal in some states

[@KILLKING110]

here in Colorado all knives are legal to own but if you were caught carrying a switch blade you would get a heavy fine they are now finally getting around to repealing the switch blade ban law hopefully they pass the resolution to repeal it.

[@wolfsvein]

Jeff have you ever done this with an OTF before but then do you run into issues in your area then it becoming a gravity knife?

[@spaceship6011]

Review the Mora 510

[@weirdmusicmixmaster]

I did this to mine when my states law changed from legal to own but not carry to total illegal, same knife but in the black bowie toxic green configuration.

[@deadpoollee9497]

I have a boker plus strike were can I get the spring for it or do u do it

[@jeremypyottjr2369]

Yep gotta do this soon before I get caught with a automatic knife. I got 2 knives. Manual folder and automatic but the folder is basically a grand father style. And the automatic is more tatical

[@KevinHamProductions1]

Is there such a thing as a knife with spring-loaded closing, push a button and it snaps shut? Or a combo of the two, open and close?

[@MrFRIINGE]

KevinHamProductions1 yes

[@urgac247]

well kind of.. look at double-action OTF knives.. its more of a slide then a push button.. and most of them are expensive, i.e. ultratech, troodon, scarab etc.

[@Bladsmith]

You can get a Lightning OTF for under twenty bucks.

[@aronponce7786]

the torx screws in my knife wont budge any tips

[@wayneowensjr3914]

That's funny man, I just commented on one of your videos about 2 bokers that I sent to blade ops and they made them full auto for me, cause I got em from budk un auto...

[@tactToFu]

is it just me, or does the material at the shiny part, (where the spring sits in) looks extremly thin?

[@john050994]

I'm pretty sure gravity knives are also illegal in N.Y. so your still sending him an illegal knife.

[@carsten4594]

Still not legal in California since it now becomes a gravity knife according to the "relaxed" knife law.

[@IanG66]

Can a Kershaw Launch knife be converted the same way?

[@kittenznotkittenz8074]

CutleryLover- Have you done a review of the CRKT Homefront, if not could you. Thanks

[@leepidford2755]

I need to know where i can get a Un Automat.. (like is being done here).. anything with a spring Australian Customs seize them and u end up in trouble... any help greatful... XL AK Black... with tanto and cerrated blade if available by Boker.... cheerss... luv the channel.. 😎

[@heagly3784]

www.knifecenter.com/item/BOKALS74B/boker-plus-automat-kalashnikov-74-folding-knife-black-combo-blade-od-aluminum-handles-not-an-automatic idk if they ship to Australia but here There are different versions on the website too

[@mr.greggt]

I removed the spring on a schrade auto and had horrible blade play afterwards.

[@rabbitslayer42]

Remind me what the 2nd amendment is about again?

[@TacticalPatriot-hd7hl]

rabbitslayer42 Google

[@rabbitslayer42]

I'm happy you are fine with your rights being infringed

[@rabbitslayer42]

I was being sarcastic....arms doesn't only cover guns it covers knives too, instead of crying about knives being illegal do something about it. Fight for you right to bear arms and get those laws changed

[@TacticalPatriot-hd7hl]

rabbitslayer42 it's not just knives and guns, the term arms can be applied to even spears, swords, and bows.

[@Herfmonster]

Thanks for showing me something I didn't actually know.

[@DMANDIOGUARDI]

Why do plastic washers exist?

[@teampancake2351]

If you pull on the blade when closed can you open it or is it just openable with button

[@carsten4594]

Have to depress the button just as if it still had the spring installed.

[@Joe-qw6il]

Wow, sent you a knife just to remove a spring?

[@MrAim4thehead]

Im in PA as well and as far as I have found on the internet, it is legal to carry a balisong as well as own it. Am I overlooking something? Everywhere I checked says I can edc a bali, are you just somewhere where it is not legal in PA?

[@cutlerylover]

balisongs and automatic knives are illegal to carry anywhere in PA accept one county I cant eve thin of where someone went to court to say their balisong is not a gravity knife and won...If you look at state law for PA you will find it in the weapon section clearly stated as well as every reference site for knife law also shows the same PA means no autos and no balisongs...I also think they mention daggers (meaning double edges blades) but the fact is most cops dont even know this and whatever knife you carry is NEVER an issue unless your stopped and searched by the cops...If you are not breaking the law there is no reason to be stopped and searched

[@MrAim4thehead]

I still can not find a single place that says balisongs are illegal to carry, so Im just gunna keep in on the DL just in case

[@Dkguerilla]

i live in europe..and i want to buy a benchmade 940 but prices here are crazy...got any tips? second hand..where i live if pretty limited for benchmade knives

[@rotenauwn6200]

Can't you buy one online?

[@stevesandborn8119]

Dhgate has a carbon fiber 940 and is awesome.

[@VinnyS9143101982]

Jeff I have news for you see that wrist action? If he lives in NYC that alone will get him arrested.

[@michaelcashin6523]

where could i get a small torx kit like that?

[@tr3nta345]

Michael Cashin online or hobby shops, for alot of information you can watch one of the videos from Nick Shabazz where he shows what he uses to disassemble knives including the drivers.

[@xxMINDxBENDERxx]

Michael Cashin lowes

[@cutlerylover]

lowes sells their brand cobalt and home depot has their version husky, both work about the same and both cost about $6...I have a video on them

[@georgebarnes4410]

Why not put the female side of the pivot in and set the blade on the pivot

[@SMart7751]

Unless one is presenting a problem, no one, or cop, is really going to care if the knife in your pocket contains a spring. Police have too much on their plates as it is.

[@csharpewalls]

Lets see here in PA I can get a carry permit but can't carry an automatic knife, I believe this to be a semi auto

[@BananaMana69]

Still illegal in Canada. We have such strict knife laws here.

[@user-xo4vz7xv5e]

My spring broke. I’m stuck with a less cool knife.

[@earlrissel4454]

I have been carrying a Boker Magnum automatic for 25 years without anyone caring and will continue to carry one. No one cares if you aren't a menace to society.

[@jonathandawson8620]

Ok well first I have to ask this question wy the hell would you Wana do that??? I mean I could definitely see wanting to do it the other way around turn into an automatic switchblade knife but anyway I have a Milwaukee fastback3 folding knife it has a button lock on it so can I possibly convert it into an automatic??? Pleas let me no and if possible if anyone has one as well if they could make a video on turning one into an automatic knife is be really fucking happy with hew ever would do it thank you

[@ScottieG59]

The laws here is Kansas used to be very strange., but now, they are just a little strange. The only limitation now is that throwing stars remain illegal. It used to be, I could conceal carry a gun places where my pocket knife could be illegal. The new law is more permissive, though it was amended after someone noticed the legislature forgot to make it preemptive throughout the state. The laws are one thing, but the case law really tells you where the problem areas are. Here, I would be on better legal ground defending myself with a gun than with a knife. Knives still cause a great deal of fear.

[@nodwaa9227]

i dont know the law in the UK for auto knife but i find it strange how one can be legal and the other not.

[@DJBroniXOfficial]

Should have put the female screw back in after removing the spring to hold everything in place

[@richardrounce7138]

So we can't have automatic knives in Canada. However, we can legally carry a short sword as long as we can justify its use isn't for self defense (we can't defend ourselves here). But we cannot carry or possess an automatic knife. Makes zero sense.

[@PurpleGhillesuit]

I was just about to request this video

[@sassy3197]

If I brought this www.extac.com.au/boker-plus-strike-drop-point-pocket-knife And this www.bladeops.com/Replacement-Springs-Boker-Mini-Kalashnikov-Auto-p/bspring-mini.htm Would It be already milled out so I can chuck the spring in there and so it would be auto or is it not that simple?

[@philcorvelli1693]

We actually can have them, but you need to be hunting or fishing with a valid license while carrying the knife.

[@dabmeme8251]

u don't have to if you don't want to its your channel

[@simsesworkshop1546]

I was seaching for "Make A Manual Knife An Automatic Knife " 😅

[@led8541]

its sill pretty cool

[@Rotary12A]

Automatics are legal in nyc if you have a fishing license

[@l_w6041]

You can have autos in New York but only if you carry a hunting license with you

[@tangieee]

Plz reply I've been watching since 20k subs!

[@Tdfcjc808]

XelaFX reply to what? You have said nothing what's he going to respond to? Lol....

[@tangieee]

Carlos I just wanted to see if he would respond, is that a problem?

[@tangieee]

My comment, like I said, I just wanted to see if he would reply

[@cutlerylover]

hey

[@tangieee]

cutlerylover YES!!! THANK YOU for the others, see!

[@DougHinVA]

It's too tricky to reassemble for me to fool with it. I cannot reassemble the springS mechanisms (there are 2) and I built models and RC aircraft as a kid and work on electric guitars. Some knives are too complicated and tricky to reassemble and this is one. Kershaw SpeedSafes are fine and I like them (OSO and LEEK), but this one is not worth fooling with any more. My view is the design is not for any normal or handy guy.

[@workingclassless84]

That is ridiculous....

[@Hunglikeagrimsmo]

If autos are illegal where you live and you want a boker just order one from a Canadian retailer and you get the non auto version that isn't even milled out for the spring. mind you they suck balls and unless the pivot is cracked as tight as it goes theres insane amounts of blade play so you either can't open the knife or you live with blade play