Cooler Master Mobius OC Review - The Airflow Monster

When it comes to airflow for cases, coolers and radiators, finding the best fan becomes a balance of static pressure and noise. And I think I've found a fan that no one seems be talking about, a secret to a lot of gaming PC builders: the Cooler Master Mobius series and especially the new Mobius OC. This might be the best 120mm fan right now.
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0:00 - The Ultimate 120mm Fan?
0:35 - Mobius fan Pricing is LOW!?
1:05 - Sponsor Spot (Xeneon FLEX!)
1:40 - Mobius 120 & 120P ARGB Explained
3:57 - Mobius OC is CRAZY!
5:52 - Noise vs RPM Level
6:11 - Unrestricted CFM Testing
7:59 - Restricted (Radiator) CFM Testing
9:44 - AIO Temperature Tests
10:59 - Air Cooler Temperature Tests
11:40 - The Best 120mm Fans for Airflow & Radiators?
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#hardwarecanucks

[@Ensule]

The P12 Max continues to impress for being a $9 fan

[@Gruntsworth]

Even not being budget limited, I'd still go with the P12 Max. Why spend 3-4x as much for nearly no gain?

[@Benjamin_Reese]

Longevity? at least in my experience with some of my Arctic fans. But I'd still buy them again! 😄 Most of them are still running.

[@canyouread]

Yeah that's pretty much my takeaway too. Why complicate things with 3 different models when the P12 Max matches the higher-end model for cheaper?

[@itisabird]

They have really bad quality assurance, though. And even if you have them at 20%, they are still far noisier than my old Noctuas at full speed (they have no PWM)

[@Benjamin_Reese]

​@@blue-lu3izYep, I think these fans should outlast the cheaper Arctic fans.

[@obliviondust2719]

it's morbin time

[@MichaelBertolino]

🐐

[@ILKTTRZ]

My favorite part of this review is when he said it's morbin time

[@HardwareCanucks]

The memes are strong with this one. ;)

[@GuyX2013]

Morbin Zord !

[@progenitor_amborella]

Clicked the vid just for this

[@arfmf]

Hats off guys simply the most relevant dataset for enthusiasts looking for a quiet, powerful and cost conscious build.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks. We spent and still spend a long time trying to present all the results we get in a meaningful and understandable, user friendly way.

[@benb2464]

Not enough fan vids out there, appreciated.

[@Dylan-et2yz]

Cool video, Mike. I’m a fan of your work and always blown away by how thorough you are. Keep it up (no pressure)!

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks!

[@jenk1938]

Haha! I see what you did there. Such fan behavior!

[@dare2liv_nlove]

Me too, big fan! I rely on Mike's reviews for filtering through all the "hot wind" of marketing claims! 😁

[@IamMotionMedia]

anyone whos been around PC building for a long while will know these are basically the classic Gentle Typhoons (just modernised). A fan that has gone through various brands over many years. A grail fan of the ages

[@progste]

The old GT were great, but do these have good motors on them? Some of these GT re-issues by other brands have had issues with reliability and motor noise.

[@CapaNoisyCapa]

TL;DR: the XPG branded Gentle Typhoons has an almost 100% chance of catastrophic failure on at least one batch (S/N 4M13xxxxxxx). I'd never thought I'd recommend a Cooler Master product over a Gentle Typhoon, but the CM Mobius 120 vanilla at $9 trounces everything unless you're fine with fan noise above 40dB and need every little bit of performance. I have a lot of GTs from three different iterations (og Servo, Scythe and the new XPG) and the old ones (10+ years) are capped at ~1800rpm, DC controlled and can be too noisy if installed stock. Silicone or rubber fixers are a must, at least for me. They're built like a tank because the original fan was designed for enterprise applications. Never had a single failure or noise coming from the motor or unbalanced blades from a sample of around ~20 units, with some approaching 15 years of use. I.e. the good, old Gentle Typhoon everybody knows. The XPG Vento Pro is made by Nidec as in every other versions, comes with passable silicone dampers on each corner, PWM control, extension sleeved cables, and it's capped at ~2250rpm. I bought five XPG units last August, two of which had a severe blade plastic stretching issue, causing frame striking and several blades cracked near the base/motor housing. Apart from me, some other people had the same problem, and it's very likely caused by a faulty batch with the S/N starting with 4M13xxxxxxx; all reports are from faulty fans with this SN. All others with S/N 4L4xxxxxxxx are fine but I'm keeping a close eye on them. All XPG units were bought from the same e-tailer here in Brazil, FWIW. It was a steal for approx. $10, though. That said, I bought two CM Mobius 120 vanilla and two Mobius 120P ARGB for testing after some hush hush on various OC forums. The vanilla one is still on sale for ~$9 and the 120P ARGB is going for ~$12. I would never test a Cooler Master fan if the price wasn't so cheap. Anyway, I mounted them on a Noctua D-15 cooling a 5950X OCed to ~250W package power. The Mobius vanilla slightly outperformed all my Noctua A12x25 for a third of the price and was within margin of error from the XPG GTs but way quieter. Like Michael and Igor's Lab found out, the ARGB version is worse in every way. I run a custom loop with 3x 360 Magicool G2 45mm thick rads on my gaming PC with a 5800X3d and a 3090 shunt modded, so about 600W of heat. In this configuration, any half-decent fan will do the job, so pick the cheaper, quieter ones.

[@denisnatera3633]

Hands down the best youtube channel for cpu coolers/fans love your work and enthusiasm Mike!!

[@HardwareCanucks]

I appreciate that!

[@mateofantasma]

Indeed! You are doing great work. Appreciated!

[@Benjamin_Reese]

I like this content, it's so hard to compete in this sector it's fun to see anyone do so well at low noise levels.

[@robertoRocco671]

I hope the OC 140 will be out soon so I can replace my old bequiet ;). However, I also wanted to commend you on your attention to detail in filming, editing, music selection, and the clarity of the charts. They were easy to read and understand. When I watch other's video, I need to pause several times to be able to understand what is going on. Kudos to you Mike and your team for producing such high-quality work!

[@PepeTheFroggg]

always happy to see the aircooler guy!

[@4ku70]

Hey Mike! Would you consider doing the best 120mm slim fan round up? Great content BTW. Realy useful. Keep it up!

[@HardwareCanucks]

There are several coming out later this year so maybe in early 2024.

[@MCstrickG6]

Thank you for making these, helps a lot.

[@echos4240]

So can I just swap the stock fans that came with my Corsair H100i Elite Capellix from two of the Mobius 120 OC and just plug it into the fan hub it came with? Or should I just keep what came with it

[@roberthelcher2884]

I appreciate your amazing content. I would love to see more fan round ups. Currently planning my next system.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks! Right now we're looking into 140mm through a completely updated methodology.

[@A_z_z_y]

Why there is no Noctua A12x25 on the final temperature tests (AIO and Air cooler) but it exists on the air-flow comparison?

[@kian8382]

Hi Mike, it seems there's no Noctua A12x25 in the real-world comparisons, any idea how they'd compare?

[@hladnomi9974]

I love your fans videos, is there any chance to make some compairson video between 140mm fans? Which 140mm fans would you choose? I see a plenty of good options in 120mm category which simply doesn't exist in 140mm.

[@cruzslns769]

Is there a way you guys can start focusing on the 140mm versions as well they’re always left out

[@tsken13]

Would love to see a Mobius oc 140

[@HardwareCanucks]

You and a lot of other people. ;)

[@GianBrugola]

Excellent work, as always! It would be nice to see a comparison between the 200mm fans on the market.

[@RideTheSkies]

Would replacing my stock thermalright assassin king mini fan that only hits 1500 rpm be very noticeable improvement under high loads? It maxes at 95c on prime95 in around 8 minutes. It gets to high 80s and low 90s during gaming session on games that have a CPU load of around 90%+. Or at the price of fan ($30 currently), I may as well switch to a peerless assassin mini? Another questions, does my tower being 5 millimeters or so from the glass hurt performance?

[@flyinhawaiian9174]

Love all your content. You're the reason I subbed to the channel.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Oh thanks!

[@saitvprintandcut1222]

help me out t30 phantek or this mobius oc?

[@Cthu1hu]

Looking to add some more fans to my Corsair 5000D case. Looks like I'll grab a couple of these! Thanks for the informative video!

[@HCGonzalezJr87]

Looking forward to your Alphacool Apex Stealth Fan review. Cool and quiet. Bring it.

[@user-um4ey7hi3e]

Thank you, Mike. You are the best. 👍

[@xnvaznx]

I hope to see a best 140mm fan roundup soon

[@JiajuChen]

Why is a12x25 not on aio test?

[@bonanzabrandon6877]

Interested in seeing more content with that fan with the metal frame that was at Computex.

[@Apersonfarfaraway]

Can you review the Thermalright TL-B12? Seems to have a similar design to the Noctua NF-A12 and Nidec GT and it’s only $12 in the US, which is like a third of the Noctua.

[@blacksama_]

How they compare with the Sikcleflow or master fan. I have 7 sickle flows argb of different size in my case and want to know how they compare to them.

[@HardwareCanucks]

The Sickleflow is below the Mobius series in CM's lineup. Very different fans.

[@LedNe0nDevil]

CM always knocking it out of the park!

[@petermilian4455]

Could you update your Air Cooler testing to standardize on a heatsink with a denser fin array configuration more representative of current gen air coolers? That is to say not the U12S since it has a relatively low fin density specifically to make it work well with lower speed / lower static pressure fans in a way that prevents the next gen higher static pressure fans from really standing out from the crowd like they would on something with higher fin density like say the Scythe Fuma 3?

[@michaelthompson9798]

Great work here once again Mike 💪🥰👍! Tbh thou, unless you generally spend a lot, you get better results which is he norm. CM did an amazing job here and when you getting about 10c> cooling compared to the opposition, then I feel it’s worth spending extra for these fans. When you’re getting a few 0c here and there …. Get the cheapest around.

[@febinjohny7331]

Which one is good to buy from ebay's Grand Rapids Liquidators Razer Barracuda X vs razer Barracuda Pro comment your Thanks in Advance

[@BloodmoonPyke]

Got some Alpenföhn Wingboost 3 in my system and I can tell ya, my PC has never been this cool and whisper quiet before. Absolutely amazing fans!

[@michaelg9188]

was wondering if you were going to look at the new Cooler Master MA824 air cooler. Would love to see how it stacks up with the Deepcool assassin IV

[@HardwareCanucks]

Hasn't the MA824 been out for like 3 years now? I believe its just been updated with an all-black version.

[@fullmetalt-shirt8355]

I have a question I hope you can help me with. I'm not exactly sure how you do your testing, whether you are using real CPU's or some kind of heat generating device similar to Gamers Nexus so I don't know what software you use to measure temperatures. On my Ryzen 5 5600, most software records multiple CPU temperatures such as CCD, Tctl/Tdie, CPU package and individual cores. Which temperature do you use when telling us the performance of these coolers? Thanks! Reply

[@HardwareCanucks]

We always use real CPUs. Not static heat loads. For Ryzen CPUs we use Tctl/Tdie since that's what the CPU reports for fan speed control.

[@fullmetalt-shirt8355]

@@HardwareCanucks Thank you so much! Looking forward to your next cooler comparison video, always a great watch.

[@Kathdath]

Why do various Noctua option get included and then removed between your various charts in this video?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Because the Noctua fan wasn't tested in the same continual conditions as some of the others so it would be disingenuous to include its results. The same goes for others like the Pro 4, Wonder Snail, etc.

[@nvdss4454]

What would you rather pick for the same price : 2x of these (120mm) bad boys, or 1x Fractal Design Prisma AL-18 PWM (180mm) ?

[@currentcolt3655]

the mobius oc dropped my itx builds peak cpu temps by 25 degrees F. couldnt be happier

[@AutodidactEngineer]

With Arctic P12-Max-s being cheaper and better in every way, it's hard to choose something different!

[@Gruntsworth]

They're not better in every way, but they are so close that it's hard to recommend anything else really unless you absolutely need super high end performance like with the T30 screaming at 3k RPM. Spending an extra $20-$30 a fan to gain 1 or maybe 2C seems a little silly imo.

[@polelix1023]

@@Gruntsworth But this one has lifetime warranty?

[@AutodidactEngineer]

@@Gruntsworth Numbers don't lie fam!

[@JABelms]

@@polelix1023 Lifetime warranty doesn't matter, especially iif you know how to fix fans yourself

[@polelix1023]

@@JABelms How?

[@McMaxW]

Great video!

[@riba2233]

hope you will test that metal fan that was announced recently :)

[@brzrkrborbas1103]

What is lubrification?

[@PrincessZoey]

What controller do I buy to control mobius ARGB 120mm

[@HardwareCanucks]

Control from your motherboard if it has ARGB

[@lande.r1]

Hopefully we can get a similar database for 140mm fans soon, I’d love to replace my old bequiets

[@HardwareCanucks]

We are working on it but don't expect the methodology to be in place until sometime in 2024.

[@dare2liv_nlove]

@@HardwareCanucks Ugh, and here i was hoping to upgrade my system by the end of 2023! Will probably go with a Be Quiet Pure Base case, with wholly 140mm ARGN fans. But i'm reluctant to buy anything without Mike's endorsement haha! 😅

[@lande.r1]

@@HardwareCanucksThank you for your hard work by the way!

[@itsdeonlol]

I love how you guys do testing on your fans.

[@HanmaHeiro]

Tell me you guys are chomping at the bit to get the Alphacool Apex Stealth Metal fans in october or november. I'm saving on upgrading my PC fans until that's out. Otherwise I might've been buying these Mobius OC fans

[@wjajr84]

There a more to case airflow than cfm. What is the airflow pattern? But good info to think about.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's exactly what I said. Hence why we have other tests.

[@wjajr84]

@@HardwareCanucks I'm not sure you know what I meant. Like does the fan create a focused air flow behind it or is it a wide pattern. Fan blade design and frame design can dictate how the air is dispersed when it exits the fan and determines how effective it is at traveling thru a case. For example a wide pattern wont really travel well thru a case but a focused flow will. Just missing information like this. If its in the video I must have missed it. But the Rad and heatsink testing is great stuff.

[@PranayMadaviTech]

What desktop speakers are those in the background?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Edifier R1280T

[@DYrahcaz91]

Any word on a 140mm Mobius OC? Currently CM's website only lists the 140mm ARGB variant.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Not yet. Designing a 140mm version of a high performance is very, very hard due to a number of factors we discussed in our Noctua interview at Computex.

[@DYrahcaz91]

@@HardwareCanucks Thanks for the reply! I'll check out that interview.

[@squatch545]

Hope they make a 140mm version.

[@Diavire]

Am I crazy to think that 25 bucks for a fan is stupid expensive? A rebate in some regions really isn't a plus here.

[@GrizzAxxemann]

I remember buying P12s for $5 CAD regular price. I still have those fans running in my case after several years. I think my oldest fans are 10 years old.

[@lennard9331]

Idk, it's probably specifically my hearing profile, but CM's fans universally emit a wheezing sound to my ear that I can't stand. It's always good to have more competitors in the market, though. Thanks for continuing this fan testing series. Stay awesome!

[@BOXabaca]

Annoying sound profiles in other fans is why I am forever stuck with A12x25's. Nothing else sounds "unannoying".

[@polelix1023]

@@BOXabaca Really? How about arctic?

[@lennard9331]

@@BOXabaca I'm also cursed by those fans, the motor hum they emit makes them unbearable at about 1000 RPM, which is supposed to be their sweet spot. The only fans I've had that don't annoy me are the case fans of the O11 Air Mini, for some obscure reason. They're extremely basic, yet they have the least offensive sound profile. Very weird

[@round3ye442]

i have 2 of these on my Hyper 212... and my 12600k on gaming load hovers around 45c with these running nearly silent. and the RGB on the models i got looks so good too

[@sza8999]

how about icegale xtra ?

[@Khemotherapy]

Would be nice if you could do a video comparing fan controllers (and their software, as well as compatibility with 3rd party software like fan control and argus) from NZXT, Phanteks, Aquacomputer and so on.

[@yensteel]

That would be a great idea! I'm using "fan control" to control my case fans by a mixture of GPU and CPU temps. It also can decrease the increments so the fan wouldn't spike up so suddenly.

[@on99kfc]

can't wait to see the alphacool one in computex

[@elteacher0223]

I tested this fan, at 1350rpm -10%pwm-, keeps the cpu temps, cooler than all.the other fans I own (a12x25, gt2150, t30, p12max, sw pro4, etc), but the sound frequency drove me crazy. I dont know if maybe I got a defective sample. On a heatsink the sound is lower but as a case fan its even worse.

[@muinarc0]

I just got one and the bearing noise from the motor is terrible 🥲

[@wherearemytesticles]

Have you looked at the Alphacool metal fans?

[@HardwareCanucks]

We've asked but waiting a response. I'm guessing they didn't appreciate our takedown of the Aurora series....

[@poorNOOB]

There's also Silverstone's Shark Force 120 argb that I want to see getting tested. SilverStone claims this fan has 100cfm of airflow and 4.66mmH2O of static pressure at 2500rpm, which if it is true, it's gonna be argb performance king.

[@Gruntsworth]

Silverstone has historically had very poor airflow/static pressure to noise ratio fans from comparisons I've seen over the years. I'd say the exception would be the air penetrators. Would be nice to see if some of the newer models were improving. I believe they may actually have an ARGB air pen now.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's what they CLAIM. There's a lot of claims in the industry and testing doesn't back it up. The SharkForce looks interesting though.

[@omargonzalez2936]

Would love to see a review of corsair’s af elite fans…

[@matteo4413]

Mike, you should check out the new Scyth Grand Tornado. Up to 3000 RPM, Full LCP material.

[@BenjaminWagener]

Unfortunately the Mobius 120 OC is in Germany hardly available at all and if it is available it is very expensive.

[@elteacher0223]

both on unrestricted and cpu cooler, the regular Mobius 120 is the only one I can compare with the XPG Ventro Pro -GT2150-, for us who prefer silence.

[@mk45232]

I might be MOEBING out for my new build

[@kylegeldmaker]

I love these fans, I was able to snag 4 140P RGBs and 2 120P RGBs for $20 each, albeit in 6 different transactions. I had to buy one at a time to clip the coupon.

[@elteacher0223]

Thanks for sharing, I appriciate all the effort and time you invest on it. Also your language is so easy to understand.... These fans are not for me, because of the motor sound at low speeds... But it's great for those who use a closed case.

[@cameronwood9385]

I hope you have some of the new AlphaCool fans coming. I'd love to see your review.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Their RGB fans were absolute trash in our roundup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5nJZGasgNmAiq8

[@greggreg2458]

@@HardwareCanucks The new fan should be really something else they say.

[@polelix1023]

Cooler Master: it's morbin time.

[@vivekvs1992]

I have a doubt.. Theoretically, aren't maglev bearings the best for durability in the fans? I though ball bearings and fluid bearings had wear issues over time?

[@KarolusTemplareV]

Ball bearings are what is used industrially for longevity, the only issue they MIGHT develop is a bit of mechanical noise with a shitton of use, but it doesnt necessary mean they will.

[@vivekvs1992]

@@KarolusTemplareV hmm.. so the corsair ml fans are just a gimmick?

[@HardwareCanucks]

The problem with "maglev" isn't necessarily longevity....its the noise they produce. Corsair's ML series are LOUD relative to their performance output.

[@vivekvs1992]

@@HardwareCanucks I see... So the name is actually misleading

[@elteacher0223]

Out of curiosity, I tested the Cooler Master mobius oc impeler on the XPG VENTO PRO, and I got less noise and vibration; higher cfm and static pressure... I was surprised to see the have the same mechanism and ball bearings! 😊

[@danteraisaina9020]

Which fan bro?

[@elteacher0223]

@@danteraisaina9020 XPG Vento Pro or GT2150

[@Black-Eye]

I would love to purchase the ARGB ones in white, but in Germany they`re almost out of stock everywhere and the pricing is horrible. Even a Lian Li Uni Fan is cheaper then the white Mobius ARGB. 😐

[@MichaelBertolino]

When the world morb'd the most, he morbin'd

[@ragtop63]

The fact that the Arctic P12 can be had for $7 (when bought in a 5-pack) and the Pccooler 120 Halo can be had for $10 (when bought in a 3-pack) pretty much makes any bigger brands irrelevant. Even on sale.

[@Donchikiman]

It's Mobin' time!

[@nated5355]

Haven't been a fan of Cooler Master since they made cheap garbage in the early/mid 2000's. Even though it appears they've greatly improved the company R&D and product quality, I still don't feel as though I'm missing out on much. Been using Noctua since 2007 and I'll stick with their SSO/SSO2 bearing design for the time being. My first set lasted 9 years, no failures. Switched to their Redux line for a different color. Those are 7 years old, no failures. Everyone seems to be trying to mimic Noctua's designs - whether blades, tolerances or introducing fluid bearings. Suddenly everyone want's to be the fan king, which is fine...it helps drive innovation and competitive prices.

[@krazyfrog]

Would like to see Fractal and Thermalright fans being tested.

[@LuisDiaz-qg3eg]

The thermalright C12 ARGB was a champion but capped at 40db, you can see it in the other ARGB video

[@krazyfrog]

@@LuisDiaz-qg3eg I saw that but that's just one model. They have like a dozen different fans especially in the non-ARGB range.

[@ssonansyah]

btw please review for the new Air Cooler from deepcool DEEPCOOL ASSASSIN IV

[@esaef91]

Just bought 5 p12 max for €30 total and is still the value king for me. But this fan came as a surprise to me.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's a crazy deal man. Do you have any issues with them at lower speeds?

[@Goochigoop]

Lub dynamic bearing - thats marketing jargon. W

[@metallurgico]

Brown NF-Axx Noctuas are simply the best.. I don't have time to check which model from which brand is not a scam

[@TeoTH80]

I hope they come up with a slim version.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yup! We covered it in the Computex video. For the time being it will be used on some of their low profile coolers though.

[@SabinTV-NP]

I guess they'll go back up in prices now 😂

[@jakebloodworth1815]

Curious of the actual "sound" as I have found a few brands that test well but I cannot stand the sound profile. Noctuas have always been great in that department.

[@gchyll2]

Arctic p12 max has very good reviews for db measurements but I cannot stand them when they go beyond 1800 rpm. Noctua actual noise profile is very tolerable or really silent throughout the rpm range. (Referring to A12x25)

[@cezarnebun9607]

The P12 Max sound awesome

[@HardwareCanucks]

You shouldn't be running fans at high RPM anyways unless you have a very specific use case scenario. ;)

[@cezarnebun9607]

@@HardwareCanucks I run mine at around 1500 rpm, but when I manually change them to max speed the are awesome and move a lot of air through my Corsair x7 rad…

[@greggreg2458]

@@cezarnebun9607 If yoi spend less on fans you can afford larger/more rads. 1x 360mm (Corsair) + 3x Noctua A12x25 = 177€ 2x 360mm (Corsair) + 6 Arctic P12 =195€, that's 18€ more for double the rad surface. I have 2x 480mm XR7 and 2 360mm XR7, push pull, all Arctic P12 running at 500/550rpm max, a single Noctua A12x25 at 1200rpm stands out if placed inside my system when gaming. (I tried, you can clearly hear when the fan it's on or off over the other 30+ fans spinning at 500rpm) I know my case is extreme but rad surface is king.

[@_Wake_Up_If_U_Can]

Appreciate your detailed fan videos! Did your team test these new Mobius fans or do the charts reflect provided data by Coolermaster? If it is provided data, I would consider the accuracy the same as swap meet amps for $50 that claim 50,000 Watts while pulling only 20 Amps (meaning marketing hype not real world).

[@HardwareCanucks]

Of course we tested them. If it was Cooler Master provided data, we'd have the OC running at 88.1 at just 39 decibels. Which is impossible.

[@Tagiau]

Blades can't expand if they're fully encased in a plastic pipe. I'd love to see someone do an extremely in depth comparison between linked blades and the new plastic that doesn't expand that noctua is using. See which is better, because we know which is cheaper.

[@dalebob9364]

Do you actually need an answer? If you don't know that Noctua is the absolute best of the best of the best, I highly doubt you've been building very long. I have one of the original 140 mm fan with 120 mm mounting, that's still running in the system from 2010! If that answers you that was their first attempt at the glass fiber reinforcing. It's a big fan with very little support for how much it spins and weighs!

[@Tagiau]

@@dalebob9364 They(noctua) obviously don't think it was the best. So kinda a moot point there mate.

[@Gruntsworth]

@@blue-lu3iz Noctua historically was the best back in the 2010s, but other manufacturers have improved by leaps and bounds the last few years while Noctua has remained mostly stagnant. They can't afford to have silly 8 year development cycles for just ONE fan or they're going to be left in the dust. I'd say more progress has been made in the last 5 years in cooling than in the previous 15.

[@metallurgico]

@@blue-lu3iz Noctua just don't sell shitty products. Corsair and Cooler Master do.

[@polelix1023]

@@blue-lu3iz I bought ised Noctua ans they're great.

[@varmastiko2908]

Shame that Noctua NF-A12 wasn't included. Otherwise looking very good.

[@azkaban3000]

For PR purpose they must exclude the best competitor out of picture haha

[@animefreak4453]

It was included. Look at the charts.

[@varmastiko2908]

@@animefreak4453 Only appears in two charts.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Noctua is a solid middle of the pack fan. Its in the bar charts but not everywhere since it wasn't tested in certain instances and in the same environment which means we couldn't directly compare it in some cases.

[@HardwareCanucks]

The A12 isn't a good competitor. At least not anymore with the new crop of fans. Its good, just not great.

[@chekote]

I assume they don’t make a low profile version?

[@phildavis8732]

I think there is a 120mm slim...heard that somewhere. Coming out soon is my guess.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Its going to be used in their low profile coolers but not sure if its coming as an individual model.

[@MarioGoatse]

3:45 “Lubrification”. Mans is just making up words 💀

[@HardwareCanucks]

Its my French showing through.

[@Bass_therapy_]

Why blue ? Like are they trying not sell them.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Why NOT? ;) Most cases are pretty dark anyways. To be honest though its the manufacturing process. What you're looking at is the raw material sorta like Noctua's Sterox.

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

Still waiting for a fan roundup of 140mm fans.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Methodologies take us months and months to put together, not to mention test and validate our testing procedures / equipment / systems. Don't expect 140mm before 2024. Its being worked on though.

[@AfterDark62]

Does the OC have the same annoying sound that the arctic p12 max make?

[@Tealc2323]

Worse. That's why they don't include sound samples.

[@HardwareCanucks]

No, it doesn't. By the way, the annoying sound on the P12 Max seems to only be from certain batches and even then only audible at certain decibel levels, not through the whole range.

[@MarioGoatse]

Secret Airflow Monster is my wife’s name every morning. I can hear the exact minute she wakes up! 💨

[@JJ-gk5tn]

Just wait for the Alphacool metal fan That's a whole another dimension

[@HardwareCanucks]

Not sure about that at all. We've already seen Alphacool make some outlandish claims with their Aurora series and then have them fall completely flat.

[@riba2233]

@@HardwareCanucks that is why we have some very fine folks like you to bust those claims :)

[@Madhatterni]

120mm is a hard sale as many diy is 140mm and the niche passive cooling. Then you think of noctua for fans or even bequiet.. then again corsair overprice link ones

[@Globodyne]

Thanks for your fan testing, completely thorough and usable real world data. Didn't even need to buy a $100,000 fan tester and brag about it without actually ever producing any content like some other channel, you just plain delivered.

[@HardwareCanucks]

We prefer real world analysis and bragging isn't our thing anyways. As a matter of fact, in our recent conversation with Noctua, they mentioned "fan testers" actually end up giving a lot of results that'll never be translated to real world, in-system realities: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHKtcn1pgLCZiKM

[@CapaNoisyCapa]

TL;DR: the XPG branded Gentle Typhoons has an almost 100% chance of catastrophic failure on at least one batch (S/N 4M13xxxxxxx). I'd never thought I'd recommend a Cooler Master product over a Gentle Typhoon, but the CM Mobius 120 vanilla at $9 trounces everything for dual-tower air or AIOs unless you're fine with fan noise well past 40dB and need every little bit of performance. I have a lot of GTs from three different iterations (og Servo, Scythe and the new XPG) and the old ones (10+ years) are capped at ~1800rpm, DC controlled and can be too noisy if installed stock. Silicone or rubber fixers are a must, at least for me. They're built like a tank because the original fan was designed for enterprise applications. Never had a single failure or noise coming from the motor or unbalanced blades from a sample of around ~20 units, with some approaching 15 years of use. I.e. the good, old Gentle Typhoon everybody knows. The XPG Vento Pro is made by Nidec as in every other versions, comes with passable silicone dampers on each corner, PWM control, extension sleeved cables, and it's capped at ~2250rpm. I bought five XPG units last August, two of which had a severe blade plastic stretching issue, causing frame striking and several blades cracked near the base/motor housing. Apart from me, some other people had the same problem, and it's very likely caused by a faulty batch with the S/N starting with 4M13xxxxxxx; all reports are from faulty fans with this SN. All others with S/N 4L4xxxxxxxx are fine but I'm keeping a close eye on them. All XPG units were bought from the same e-tailer here in Brazil, FWIW. It was a steal for approx. $10, though. That said, I bought two CM Mobius 120 vanilla and two Mobius 120P ARGB for testing after some hush hush on various OC forums. The vanilla one is still on sale for ~$9 and the 120P ARGB is going for ~$12. I would never test a Cooler Master fan if the price wasn't so cheap. Anyway, I mounted them on a Noctua D-15 cooling a 5950X OCed to ~250W package power. The Mobius vanilla slightly outperformed all my Noctua A12x25 for a third of the price and was within margin of error from the XPG GTs but way quieter. Like Michael and Igor's Lab found out, the ARGB version is worse in every way. I run a custom loop with 3x 360 Magicool G2 45mm thick rads on my gaming PC with a 5800X3d and a 3090 shunt modded, so about 600W of heat. In this configuration, any half-decent fan will do the job, so pick the cheaper, quieter ones. Edit: I'm currently running 9x Mobius 120 vanilla on all my three 45mm rads all exhaust, one Mobius 120 rear and two NF-A15 front mesh intake on a O11D Evo, all paired with liquid temperature. Loop is cooling a 5800X3D and a shunt modded 3090, approx. 600W on full load. You can check my bench runs and temps on Hwbot.

[@HardwareCanucks]

That's interesting since I've personally been running 6x XPG GT's on my girlfriend's PC for about 4 years now without any issues but none of them are from that serial number you mentioned. Either way the Mobius is amazing, the OC even more so if you can find it for a decent price and the ARGB...there's better fans out there. - Mike

[@KarolusTemplareV]

Man, those Gentle Typhoon I buyed ten years ago or more are a bargain at this point.

[@GrizzAxxemann]

Same with my P12s that I bought for $4.99 CAD.