Cooling The 14900K | Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame

[@Thesilentwolf7610]

Contact frame + proper thermal paste + undervolt = best results. I think undervolt is a must for recent intel cpus.

[@mikebaker2927]

Thanks for being the only person to show the installation process of the contact frame for 13/14th gen

[@PlanetKryos]

Well thank you. There are a couple other channels that showed it.

[@k-man5029]

disable the virtual settings in bios and set your pl2 and pl2 to 253 watts all your temp problems will go away that cpu was not met to pull 316 watts under load

[@azzazel_99]

Not even breaking 90c before the contact frame you have to be the luckiest 14900k owner alive. Almost every 14900k owner immediately spikes to 95-100c and thermal throttle within the first 3 seconds of benchmarking

[@PlanetKryos]

I have a suspicion that my MB was taming it.

[@dbryantm]

Actually just went through this whole process today and I got pretty good results with my 13900K which is cooled by a NH-D15S along with a -0.075v undervolt and I don't hit above 85C while scoring between 39500-39800 in R23. I will say that the biggest difference I saw was the reduction in variation of temperature from core to core. Most specifically the e-cores.

[@LEGIONART-]

Thank goodness the first to showchase the thermal grizzly thermal pad with a 14900k. Thank you so much for this content. Now I can build my PC without worrying if the thermal pad is enough for the 14900k. Also the installation was also a rare sight to find on this platform sadly considering everyone covers it without acutally showchasing how to use this product. Thank you for making this specific content :) Great work. Id wish this type of content was more covered but you can only find it in more niche content. Thank you so much. Keep up the good work man :)

[@RaptorFPV]

Thank You and congratulations! I get 100°C spikes with my 14900K on Cinebench Multi Core Test (MSI 360mm AIO). Ordered Kryosheet and Contact Frame, wish me luck! 😁👍

[@PlanetKryos]

Let is know how it works

[@AvGas502]

Very nice, This is what I plan on doing with my P.C, will use the contact frame and the Graphene KryoSheet together.

[@pifcudoidef]

Hi. In the future on Cinebench, click File and check Advanced. Then Minimum Test Duration at Off. And it will do just one run and give a score. I also got a contact frame on my 13700k and instead of 100c on stock now i have 58 58 58 58 57 56 55 55 on p cores ratios, and 46 all the way on e cores. and barely hit 90 in c bench. Great stuff this bracket.

[@otakarlojkasek488]

You are the best !!! The only person who shows how to change it and don´t remove everything from you pc. :D :) Thanks mate! :)

[@xtraOhrdiNAIR]

I would have used the same thermalpaste for a comparison instead of a "sheet" ;D Would be interesting to see

[@juhanimertanen3452]

Thanks for the tutorial. I'm going to test it on my 13500. Earlier 12th version was too much for me, but this new version looks a cake walk.

[@pcman222285]

The Maker Reborn. Like it, Great Video.

[@rickh8380]

I first saw the contact frame review on GN and was impressed by the thermaltake frame. A lot less expensive than the Thermal Grizzly frame and helped cool the CPU a little bit better. Bought that one for both of my 12th gen CPU's. I will only use contact frames on the 12th thru 15th? Gen Sockets. Intel dropped the ball on the LGA1700 processors by not adding another hold down clamp on the other side of the CPU for even pressure.

[@mehck-gk9yn]

Any instability in the system yet? If it's stable with an 8 month old default BIOS then you got a golden sample for sure

[@smokethatgameb9937]

I will be testing out thremalright contact frame/EK 360 LUX aio/ artic MX6 with my 14900k this weekend. I was thinking about using a push pull config in my lian li evo case. But I think i will stick with 10 fans I got already. I think the 3 SL140 I have in the bottom as intake do such a good job bringing in so much cold air, and plus my PC is in the Basement. But really curious to see what temps I get without doing any undervolting or using extreme utility AI :) Great video by the way

[@micketkeong]

If only I found your video first, I don't even need to buy the torque screwdriver just for tighten it.😂

[@boblienhart]

You don't show it so I have to ask, did you clean the old thermal paste off the bottom of the heatsink/pump before reinstalling it (at 15:30)?

[@PlanetKryos]

Yes anytime I remove the heatsink of any sort I will reapply

[@MarkGianotis]

Tightened my frame "snug" and got a no post CPU not detected, backed them off a bit and voila posted! They mean it when they say hand tight, so resist the urge to give it that little extra unless you have a NM torque driver.

[@PlanetKryos]

Yeah only finger tight. I think what happens is the pins on the MB move off the LGA

[@crestonburks2141]

I've always built my systems to push-pull the radiator from cooler exterior air from outside to inside (helps get the cpu cooler), rather than having the fan draw the already warmer interior case temps into the radiator and thru the radiator. Doesn't seem that it would be as efficient. I also have 3 fans on top ehausting the interior heat (since heat rises), and another single at the rear drawing out the warm inside heat.

[@arkade-]

Did you mess with Asus' multicore-enhancement to bring down the heat, Mine by default was set to auto, so my CPU was hitting 100c+. After disabling it, and setting intel guidelines it now runs way better.

[@PlanetKryos]

Nope, I didn't change anything. This is a gigabyte MB not Asus

[@Ravenx217]

also did a contact frame with the 14900k but i think i may have not tightened it enough, getting random shutdowns under load..

[@PlanetKryos]

You may have even tightened too much

[@aamonnefarious2288]

I think your parts list is outdated. That's a Gigabyte Auros board and of course you're putting in a 14900 not a 12900. Not sure if the other parts listed are updated. Going to take a shot at the thermal frame and the contact sheet. Thank you.

[@johnbaron3070]

Jeez I throttled almost immediately with my aio. I got some kryonaut extreme coming in next week along with some fans. Also can you runs these tests on cinebench 2024?

[@PlanetKryos]

Make sure you have your pump connected properly. That would result it over heating

[@PlanetKryos]

Yes you can run that test

[@BipolarBLKSheep]

I have an i9 14900k and with my MSI board and a 360mm AIO, with default settings, I was hitting 100c almost instantly during R23 multi-thread benchmark. It was crazy. I had to go into bios and set the cooler to a "box cooler" which sets the limits to intel spec (253w). I also had to disable "enhanced turbo". My temps are now down into the high 70's to mid 80's during benchmark, but I'm noticing that I'm barely pushing over 200w... I get a score of like 36k, when, even with it hitting 100c immediately and thermal throttling like crazy, I was hitting 39k... I have tried going back to default settings and just undervolting with XTU, but that didnt stop the frequent 100c spikes. Super frustrating. I'm not sure why I'm limited in wattage to 200 or less when setting everything to intel specs, and when even just setting it to the middle ground (tower cooler) in bios, which is something like 288w, it still spikes like crazy and goes over 300w. I just dont get it. What am I doing wrong? I'm getting the contact frame, and going to try using a different paste than the one that already came on my corsair h150i AIO, and hopefully that will make a difference? I see a lot of people fixing their temps on their 14900k's but they are using ASUS boards where they disable the "multi-thread enhancements" setting and its all better. I've been tweaking this for days now. I'm mentally frustrated as hell. I've just resorted to using it as I first described, and getting less than 200w of power just to keep them temps reasonable, but I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of potential with it running so limited. In XTU it says im almost constantly "current/edp limit throttling"... I'm assuming that's because the mobo is trying to limit the power sent to the cpu to keep it from spiking, but I just dont know. Sorry for the long comment, but I'm essentially throwing my hands up in frustration at this point.

[@PlanetKryos]

I have stock settings but found out that it is not keeping a constant cpu speed

[@VIPERGAMING4K]

After 30 days, i figured out myself and used intel xtu and lowered the p core and e core ratio down to 48x, i.e., 4800mhz. Now, the temps are 80 max on 100% load. But it's still a disappointment because i am not getting the actual value for money because i have lowered the speed of my brand new i9 14900k for the sake of temperature. Some say the h150 is not compatible for i9 14900k and upgrade to a 20 to 25k cpu aio cooler. Please suggest me what should i do, upgrade my cooler to a compatible one or just let my i9 to run at 4800mhz forever? Thanks

[@goldman12312]

Unfortunately, in my case, the frame installation on the i9-14900k failed. I attempted the installation twice, even with a different method of applying thermal paste. the first time I used the spreading spatula, the second time I used the X method. I used the original screws and followed the 90 degree rule. The cooler I use is nzxt kraken 360. After the installation process, the computer heats up to 100 degrees a moment after starting and causes a blue screen. :l

[@PlanetKryos]

It heats up to 100 just at an idle or when you do a stress test? If during an idle that is not normal but if during a stress test the is normal

[@serhatvural7838]

I have a 13900k and msi z690 tomahawk motherboard. I use it with a 360 mm cooler. After the undervolt process, I did not even see 65 degrees, except for instant increases in games (rare 80 degrees can see). I do not plan to change the system for 4 years. do you think I should use this product? or should I continue as stock.

[@PlanetKryos]

You don't need to undervolt unless a very heavy user

[@INFIN1TY-]

With what software can you make the rgb do that? Thanks.

[@_shxny]

Any reason to not do push/pull as intake bringing in cool air through the radiator? Nice vid & neat test w/ the sheet. Never saw that before.

[@PlanetKryos]

Great question. Some reasons you might not want to do it or can't do it. 1. More fans to go bad for fail 2. More cost 3. Case restrictions 4. Increased dB (noise) But with that said I like the extra help to cool it. This is not needed in the lower end CPUs at all.

[@MhillPlays]

I’m considering the ASUS Rog Ryujin III + Contact Frame for my upcoming 14900K build, but I’m in the fence whether to get Liquid Metal over conventional thermal paste. Most of the time it’s used on CPU’s that are direct die. You think using it would still achieve better results over say Artic Silver 5, even without a delid?

[@PlanetKryos]

Unless you know what you are doing go with normal paste

[@白超级-y3e]

Can the kyrosheet contact with the contact frame? default cut out for the sheet for LGA1700 is 38x38, since you measured 30mm across.

[@shadowarez1337]

I see where i went wrong i used the screes from the stock frame i should be using the ones provided by the tg frame.

[@PinayPicPeek]

What if you apply thermal paste to the contact frame area also?

[@PlanetKryos]

What do you mean? If it leaks over, it will not harm anything

[@ZomgZomg007]

I am surprised by your default state of the 14900k, because by default these things , especially the 2 favored cores always hit 100C.

[@PlanetKryos]

Lucky ;)

[@haies09]

Would you get better CPU temps if the AIO was set to intake? If so, I’d assume it would make the GPU and other components increase in temps. 😊

[@PlanetKryos]

If so it would be negligible

[@Xaltorez]

my 14700k... runs hot at 140watts :') easily hits 90°C (This is with a 360AIO, and thermal ILM) Sadly I do not know how to undervolt

[@abc123evoturbobonker]

You were power limiting at ~280w after a short boost period, that is why you didn't hit 100C or keep the cores @ 5700, using a tool like XTU may help you catch these states and understand what is going on. Your Bench Score is low for a 14900k due to the Power limit set by the motherboard. I would hazard a guess that your mobo thermal throttled you to 90C too as the boost should always hit 100 unless ur running LN

[@stefensmith9522]

I just got my own setup done, 14900k with the frame, kpx paste, full custom loop with 2 triple rads and 1 dual rad and running cinebench runs the temps up to 100 on two cores and between 90-95 for the others . Clocks show 5.4ghz running which all seems wrong but it scores 40633 ish so... I dunno ...

[@PlanetKryos]

Interesting

[@AngelOfDeathComplex]

Question, did you reuse the screws from the ILM or did you use the screws that came with the contact frame?

[@PlanetKryos]

You have to reuse the screws with Intel

[@furkanayaz3759]

Can we use together contact frame and kryosheet ? I mean contact frame share aio pump plates surface and helping to cooling. Doesn't the Kryosheet create a gap between contact frame and the plate? Thanx for the video btw

[@PlanetKryos]

You can use them together. I showed it in the video

[@snowbird319]

What AIO are you using? I couldn't find it anywhere. Where is you CPU AIO front or Top? You mentioned push pull, which fan locations are pushing / pulling and in what direction. Great video thanks

[@PlanetKryos]

Sorry it was in my build video. I added it to the description. Air being drawn from inside case to the outside. AIO installed vertically in front

[@DeadCat-42]

Contact frame helps but I can't undervolt at all. Even 0.015 will cause instability at 0.030 under it won't boot .. I'm still throttling at hit 100c at 253 200! Pl1 pl2...

[@EfekanKartal-y3k]

Hello, do you need a backplate for that contact frame?

[@PlanetKryos]

In the video I mentioned it uses the back plate that comes with it so it uses the factory back plate

[@kevinheriansa5810]

Do they also have the frame for am5 processor?

[@PlanetKryos]

Yes. amzn.to/3Udqocp

[@Creem16]

should i get the 14700k or wait a whole year for next gen?

[@PlanetKryos]

Personally I might want to wait for the new generation

[@cn-cz3nc]

never seen anyone use that graphite thing, i might test that out

[@PlanetKryos]

Expensive but I love the No Mess and reuseable

[@lovzarho2472]

Damn dude, how could you miss the back end. I have the same water cooling system, but I cannot install it due to the fact that the bolts from the grizzly cooling interfere. Please show me

[@Xearo101]

I am so frustrated with my 14700k. I installed a 420 arctic liquid cooler and still peg out as soon as I start cinebench 23.

[@PlanetKryos]

Maybe you don't have the pump hooked up? This would make it heat up fast. Double check that

[@twitchmoments7049]

Can the original mount bend my CPU so much that it stops working or works worse? Have 14700k and liquid freezer 2 360

[@PlanetKryos]

Not the original, no. The contact frame can push down too hard to where is stops working though

[@leif1274]

i don't have to remove the mainbaord for the frame to hold the backplate, do i? the backplate of the cooler holds the backplate, doesn't it?

[@PlanetKryos]

Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't it depends on the cooler bracket that you're using and depends on your PC case if you were to install it and then have nothing for it to back up to I would always recommend installing it outside of the case unless you know that way you know it fits properly

[@lulufolds]

I hit 100c like nothing on my 14700k stock, just ordered the piece. Did u undervolt?

[@PlanetKryos]

No I did not undervolt. Might be your MB doing it. It could be a difference between MBs.

[@thepopeofkeke]

If that plate falls your nightmare has begun it the board is out of the case hahaha

[@PlanetKryos]

I did it laying down now upright

[@Detroittruckdoctor55]

Should i put this on my virgin i9 14300k?

[@PlanetKryos]

Up to you. I've had it on mine for 9mo now

[@AB-80X]

You really need to run a 30 minute or longer test with that AIO. You don't get it into equilibrium in 10 minutes.

[@PlanetKryos]

Can you provide a link to support that?

[@Alex_Koski]

Doesn’t the water in the cooling system boil after 100 degC🤔

[@PlanetKryos]

The coolant never gets that high. This is the CPU temp

[@XIIGrEeNyXII]

Will the 12th gen contact frame work with 14series cpus?

[@PlanetKryos]

Yes you should have no issue doing that. However there maybe a refinement to a 13/14 gen one

[@catalinvasiliu3620]

This is definitely for professionals. I don't understand anything, except that I'll never-ever have 12 fans on a desktop chassis. Sorry about that, mate.

[@mortont1210]

Great review of the Contact Frame... I'm liking the new build and that front AIO fan setup and those fans really nice 💯 11/23/2023 2301

[@PlanetKryos]

Thanks!

[@ricklakes9405]

Great video

[@Mason_bluegrass]

the higest score i got with my i7 12700k overclocked was 25118 points.

[@PlanetKryos]

Yeah little lower cpu will see that

[@bobeyes3284]

I would have tried it apples for apples before using KryoSheet. You have no way of knowing of the contact frame's performance if you change the paste for a sheet.

[@Animax590]

How much u undervolted your cpu ?

[@PlanetKryos]

I didn't have to.

[@farzanmhm2731]

what is this black case name

[@PlanetKryos]

Corsair 5000D air flow

[@erbenton07]

What case is that?

[@PlanetKryos]

Corsair 5000D airflow

[@PlanetKryos]

I added it to the description in under the video.

[@hannesbauer1505]

My 14900k have an ceap actric cooling 420 aio (push config) in a lianli lancool iii and i never seen more than 70grad c in silent fan setting. I dont understand all this 14900k is to hot videos 😂

[@PlanetKryos]

Are you talking about bench mark testing or gaming or what? There is a difference. This video is to show and push the cpu harder than and game.

[@jserenity]

I am watching these cause of the recent intel oxidization scandals

[@once-over4243]

What kind of cooler do you use for this test I’m going to be running a 4090 & a 14900k so I’m just looking around to get the best set up via KZbin lol

[@PlanetKryos]

I used this cooler. amzn.to/3S2pn5o

[@nikoseen]

Instead of buying thermal sheets, buy PTM 7950 from Honeywell.

[@craigdowler5051]

It's in 480p.

[@PlanetKryos]

Yeah youtube issue. Thanks

[@Akgis32]

You arent thermal throttling on the baseline becuase your P-cores clocks are all over the place I saw as low as 5200mhz during the run, same thing for the contact frame and Kyroshit(too expensive for what it is) so you cant evaluate much seems your motherboard is setting temp limits to 90º and then downclocks the CPU to keep it that way, 39K is low for a 14900K it can go as 41k NOT OC with properly setup with tuned SVID AC_LL / DC_LL or a undervolt preferly both. Atlest you are using the 2nd gen contact frame from Grizzly the 1st one did more harm than good to stability of the system with its precise torking and overengeniering bullshit. They say the next version was revised for the 13th gen thats BS again since the dimension of 12th and 13th CPUs didnt changed.

[@mypeeps1965]

I hope you did not name your kids....lol

[@PlanetKryos]

Lol

[@0Tidus0989]

You should have put the same thermal paste you had before installing the contact frame. There is no way to properly compare performances with and without since you didn't... I'm sorry to say this is a close to useless video... Are the new temps because of the frame? Because of the thermal pad? Who knows!? :\

[@bari9988]

set power limits lol

[@monacocross4241]

Contact Frame not recommend Intel the owners , contact support , told no no .......... buy better cooler same save 4-6 C.

[@arenda_comp]

столько гемора ради 4х градусов.

[@tonywallow964]

Nice pk 🦃

[@TheKvs777]

just order the proper size..