Very common question I’m seeing here, and indeed honestly a very common question students have in my classes about statistics, is what if one of the oldest civilizations applied this reasoning - wouldn’t they get a totally different and wrong answer? Yes they would, but that’s how statistics works! Not everyone is guaranteed to be right every time. The oldest civilizations in this scenario would be the rarest and thus although they would arrive at the wrong answer, the majority of the sample would arrive at the correct answer. Think of it like this - if you state there’s a 90% chance of an event occurring, you will predict the wrong answer 10% of the time. That’s not a failure of statistics, it’s intrinsic to how it works as everything has uncertainty. All we can do in statistics is make *probabilistic* statements e.g. this is the most likely outcome, or this happens 90% of the time. Challenging to explain this in a single comment, it takes students a long time to grasp this concept usually but I hope that helps!
@ErikRoar4 жыл бұрын
Intriguing and valuable data, sir. However, considering that I, and many others, have personally observed the levitating crafts of extraterrestrial civilizations here on Earth, one might suggest that it is not necessary to seek them out at this juncture, for they are here. Instead, I think that we should focus on elevating our civilization's practices, proving ourselves worthy of contact and communication.
@thutomoof4 жыл бұрын
However, these much older civilisations would not use the stats/info we do, but have much better maths and tech to inform their analysis.
@mladenpopovicphoto4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it more convenient to use the age (stone, bronze, iron) in relation to civilizations? Are we currently in American, Chinese, or perhaps Russian civilization now, or in, say, the information age preceded by the industrial age? I believe that the duration of human life is more related to, for example, the Iron Age than Roman or Ottoman civilization?
@dandeeteeyem21704 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.. Seriously it's been one of the most thought provoking and inspirational channels I've come across. On top of that, being in lock down I've found this channel so therapeutic- it's a little easier staying positive about the world whenever I see you guys have uploaded a new video. They always reminding me to focus on the big picture.. to remain hopeful, and stay curious.
@robertlipka95414 жыл бұрын
I am wondering how this thesis accounts for a couple of points: 1. it assumes a constant "rate of threat" which leads to an exponential distribution, and this is almost certainly false. You can make arguments that as a civilization ages, it both creates ways to survive better as well as new threats (similar in animal kingdom to being more likely to live to old age once you survive childhood). 2. I do not see how this proposed model accounts for lifetime of a civilization that spreads beyond its original planet, with each colony facing its own threats and being described by a different exponential. To me the lifetime of the civilization is a blend of whatever distributions the colonies have. This point is probably a case of my first point, the civilization increases its chances of survival through colonies (if rate of colonization is much greater than its lifetime), but decreases them due to potential conflict with colonies.
@SuperLibertarianMan2 жыл бұрын
Since I was a kid, I've found astronomy and the possibility of life outside of our solar system to be fascinating. From an auto mechanic in southern Indiana, I thank you for your content. I am making my way through your library, and just cannot get enough, it keeps my dreams of the stars alive.
@NewsThatMatterUsa2 жыл бұрын
Love your name and I can relate lol 😂 let’s go Brandon!!!!
@siroswaldfortitude53462 жыл бұрын
@@NewsThatMatterUsa Am with you both...roll on 2024
@therealCamoron2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Trump cultists can comprehend the existence of a planet beyond one where a game show host conned 70 million people into supporting him and believing his lies no matter what.
@aldejesus71952 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice! Everyone needs a car and that rock salt will eat right through those vehicles! I left that ice and snow for Florida! You have no clue how fast these cars down here!
@gonzothecat59012 жыл бұрын
love your comment
@EVILJAMARR4 жыл бұрын
He said, “grab a cup of tea” so I paused the video and did just that! This channel is vital for great ideas.
@youngimperialistmkii4 жыл бұрын
I grabbed a beer😉
@dechubasco8304 жыл бұрын
I had already prepared a cup of tea before I started watching this video . When he said that, I just smirked to myself . It's always fun to watch his videos when I am calm and cozy .
@erickerr38234 жыл бұрын
Youngimperialist Mk II I grabbed 2 after you lol.
@avishalom2000lm4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Battersby And I immediately thought of Isaac Arthur's advice to "grab a drink and a snack" for his videos.
@deltoid77-nick4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up now I can make some in advance before the video starts
@kennarajora65324 жыл бұрын
Legend has it he's still out there liking comments.
@FatCat7152 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing. I randomly found this channel one day ago and I am hooked. Your ability to merge the technical aspect of science with the romance and beauty of the universe. Well done!
@smeer0013 жыл бұрын
I know that Cool Worlds would rather be studying a catalog of discovered exo-moons, but the time being put into this channel is a great gift to all of us viewers. Thanks for the awesome content.
@CoolWorldsLab3 жыл бұрын
Haha well we enjoy both research and communicating science, so these videos are a joy to make for us too
@illasm2 жыл бұрын
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@Deeveeaar4 жыл бұрын
What a refreshing documentary on this subject!
@MICKEYISLOWD4 жыл бұрын
I love the pace and how these ideas are presented. I am staying home and binge watching them all:)
@daphne49834 жыл бұрын
All we can do is extrapolate. Time will tell, hopefully.
@anonamuss16044 жыл бұрын
Awesome doc
@DarkLight-sz1vp4 жыл бұрын
Hey I watch your videos
@RokSlana3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@fullmetaltheorist4 жыл бұрын
Aliens probably lock their doors when they fly near Earth.
@JAGzilla-ur3lh4 жыл бұрын
They make sure the kids are looking out the windows, though, so they can witness all the plight we Earthlings have down here.
@222Lightning4 жыл бұрын
one of my alien friends visiting Earth telepathically in my head wanted me to reply to your comment w a "LOL". So here's its response ...."LOL".
@tripzville75694 жыл бұрын
We would indeed be the neighbours from hell. Join us as do our little bit using our music and messages to shine some light in these challenging times. TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER.
@MiddleIrvington4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, or strengthen their forcefields. I'd have to guess that most stay far away as we seek to avoid bad neighborhoods.
@SEJay-gj2cv4 жыл бұрын
Yeah we’re not exactly a friendly bunch. Superpowers tend to shoot first and ask questions later.. sigh smh. Look up Sentinel Island... that’s basically us in a nutshell.
@xXx_Regulus_xXx10 ай бұрын
worth mentioning regarding the lifetime of civilizations on Earth: the end of a civilization didn't always mean the death of a group of people; sometimes it just meant the same group of people scattered or were under new management. Maybe the data ought to be revised to account for actual extinctions of groups of people
@kestrel59224 ай бұрын
Yeah, citing a 'Fall of Rome' that ignores the Eastern Roman "Byzantine" Empire always makes me skeptical of data on 'lifetime of civilizations.'
@CoolWorldsLab4 жыл бұрын
Wondering about the T-shirt? We now have a TeeSpring store! (For some the KZbin integration is having some hiccups but should be on soon). Link is teespring.com/stores/cool-worlds-store
@angryyoungman664 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel afraid after watching your videos
@jimalbi4 жыл бұрын
This might not take into account potential waves of colonisation within a system that can provide some «renaissances» opportunities for a technological species.
@radbug4 жыл бұрын
the only problem is this model doesnt hold up if you simply change your perspective to any other of those random dots. in other words, you keep saying "us" and comparing us to those around us, but if you change the "us" to one of the red dots, all of a sudden the model is broken. the distribution doesnt remain the same if you change perspectives, and obviously reality is not happening in a vacuum, and in this model the vacuum is represented by the "us". in otherwords, any model that actually functions, will also continue to function if you change the perspective to another dot. Once you learn how to tweak the distribution along these lines, youll have a better understanding of the reality, and it will meet more closely with the distribution we see in ages of living creatures, where in any given moment, the younger are more plentiful than the older, and that holds throughout the last billion years of evolution. speaking of... I think you could develop more significant models of "galactic distribution" if you use the model of evolution on this planet as a foundation. Consider that we already have million of examples of "civilizations" ages, if you replace the word civilization with "species". (indeed when you speak of humanity in space, you are talking about a single species anyway, and the contribution of that entire species, and its comparison to singular ET species in your data points.) in other words, if you study the statistical longevity of all of the species historically present on earth over the course of evolution, you may see a reasonably accurate representation in geographic distribution of those species, and most importantly: how much geographic location matters in comparison to the competition. ie, you will discover that any species that has longevity, necessarily displaces all other species in their local space. what you discover is that the majority of "locations" maintain a competitive level that prevents older species from thriving, such that the majority of locations have a large diversity of primarily young species. but that in a minority but still extant number of locations, an old species thrives, and essentially prevents younger species from rising to competition. often simply by monopolizing the local resource supply. and these species do require a rather large area in order to remain dominant. its extremely rare to find an extant ancient species holding a monopoly of resources in only a tiny territory. This is my conclusion: most large sectors of most galaxies will likely remain competitive, and thus most species will be young species. then a few large sectors will develop "ancestor monopolies" that stagnate further competition, and young species numbers diminish significantly. and given enough time, the size of these sectors grow, until an entire galaxy will stagnate under the monopoly of one super civilization. but this is why time is so important. and we can say with regards to our own galaxy, it is likely still too young to have developed more than a handful of significant ancestor monopolies. this because it took 3 billion years to create our species on a rapid evolution planet (a planet that suffers more natural turmoil than the average, due to small size, and active star, creating over-active plate tectonics which cause rapid natural shifts in the geological environment, thus forcing species to evolve more quickly. Darwin recognized this as "the island effect".) 3 billion years, out of only 14 billion years since the big bang, and a full 4 billion years of Stellar evolution to even create our galaxy, and a further 5 billion years of galactic evolution to create our solar system (and thus any solar system with similar chemical components.) this time period considered from the perspective of a distant future "history" of our universe is essentially still the beginning. The number of species is likely very low. but 30 to 40 billion years from now, the distribution will stabilize increasingly towards the majority of locations becoming stagnated by ancestor monopolies.
@californyaeh4 жыл бұрын
Pause @ 1:10 I'd love to listen and learn, but already the Foreground music drives me Nuts... I Know I won't be able to stay on 30 minutes, with my poor little brain, trying to make sense of the Scientific explanations And try to tune Out the battling loud..Loud....LOUD..violins, cellos, etc..!! I'm not that Smart..!
@pbot65934 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your channel is amazing. I feel like I must be missing something obvious, so maybe this is an irrelevant question, but: If this hypothesis is accurate, and posing hypothetically that every civilization came to this same conclusion, what percentage of them would be wrong? Or, if this is better, What chance is there that the distribution relative to us is, let's say, 90/10 in either direction?
@runalongnowhoney3 жыл бұрын
"Hunter-gatherer society floating a message to us down the river on a piece of wood" Isn't that similar to what we attemped to do with the Voyager probe?
@gregor-samsa3 жыл бұрын
Assume the bottle was found then short after we would a. ("look things up in old data") check Sattellite images b.) start a silent, high flying plane to map their village (aka collect more data) with a lidar through the forest leaves and have a study on them.... but c.) others would jump on the next speed boat and go and "visit" them to become famous (aka direct ruthless encounter). These three possible actions highlight the important problem of -for a civilisation- acting as one! Assume this was not and still is not the case on earth. Therefore it is crutial to the whole meet and greet thing ... asume as well for aliens and almost for sure for us!
@MagikarpMan3 жыл бұрын
Exactly we see ourselves as the advanced species looking for a primitive species when we could be the primitive species ourselves
@KaoKacique3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, from what I read the Voyager Messag was meant to be more symbolic than anything. They didn't really expect that someone would find it
@runalongnowhoney3 жыл бұрын
@@KaoKacique pretty much the same as that primitive tribe floating a message down the river....
@dougfile66443 жыл бұрын
Any aliens who find Voyager will discover that we basically sent them nudes and directions to our 'house'
@LiveMasterXxX4 жыл бұрын
This is what my math teacher expects me to do when she says find x.
@lucyluck95644 жыл бұрын
Me and My maths Teacher had sex twice
@AksamRafiz4 жыл бұрын
@@lucyluck9564 your teacher and I need to introduction.
@lucyluck95644 жыл бұрын
@@AksamRafiz he's a man 👨 👏
@AksamRafiz4 жыл бұрын
@@lucyluck9564 oh no
@mickelodiansurname95784 жыл бұрын
Found it.... its right between W and Y
@LeDank2 жыл бұрын
This is extremely smart content that you’ve put into easy to understand terms. You have a talent for explaining this stuff. That’s a good sign that you really know what you are talking about. Thanks for making these videos!
@highway6ix214 жыл бұрын
Narrator : Sit back, have A cup of tea with me. Me : LETS DO THIS... *While having a beer & smoking a joint*
4 жыл бұрын
Thats my man, i like That 😂♥️
@DickDickstein4 жыл бұрын
Giant resin ball and a whiskey.
@Myiata19794 жыл бұрын
Relaxing after work 🌿🍺
@deviantaffinity16263 жыл бұрын
Shatter & scotch.
@PafMedic3 жыл бұрын
Full Moon Fever and a Corona😂Yeah,Been Drinking Longer Than The Virus Has Been Around
@justincase.63174 жыл бұрын
I’ve been following this channel for about a year and this dude are so underrated. You should have millions of subscribers. Share people.
@semugenyilatif87084 жыл бұрын
Indeed.. This channel is mind blowing..
@knight22554 жыл бұрын
Production value is right up there with the best PBS/BBC doc's
@jessedover61754 жыл бұрын
This dude "IS" so underrated. ....Not "ARE" !!!!!🙄
@UnknownMoses4 жыл бұрын
English might be a second or third language them or they could be very tired. Either way it’s a KZbin comet
@tazcaddy4 жыл бұрын
@Jesse Dover "everything is vibration" Einstein...why would proper English be in the equation?
@jmmahony4 жыл бұрын
The effect of time causing older civilizations to be more common could be even more extreme when you phrase the question specifically as "which type of civilization are we most likely to find" because older civilizations also are most likely to have spread out among the stars to multiple planets and star systems. Obviously, if they have more territory, we're more likely to run across them (or vice-versa).
@EdricLysharae4 жыл бұрын
I agree. We have barely turned the first page on the history of the universe. The great barrier is not space, but time.
@Le-rh1fi4 жыл бұрын
@@EdricLysharae Not time. But; WILL.
@EdricLysharae4 жыл бұрын
@@Le-rh1fi, can't argue with that. It takes courage and resolve to leave the cradle.
@Le-rh1fi4 жыл бұрын
@@EdricLysharae Right On Brother and you also @jmmahony.
@JoJoRogain10 сағат бұрын
@@EdricLysharae proxima B is 4 light years away ready for terraforming, in the Centaurus constellation same as Przybilski’s Star (anamolous axtraterrestrial megaproject?)
@stonksmcmeme2 жыл бұрын
This content is truly amazing. Having a professor/researcher making videos explaining the incredible complexities of our universe is truly astounding. Whenever he speaks, it's like a cascade of knowledge so well-worded and passionately delivered which is admirably poetic. Honestly, this is an honor. I'm quite passionate for astronomy and this is incredible to me. Probably the greatest channel on KZbin.
@Laurencemardon2 жыл бұрын
OUR universe?? 🌝🐣👬👨🏻🦯🤦🏻♂️
@rakzur8266 Жыл бұрын
@@Laurencemardon yes, the Universe we currently reside in, it is reasonable to call it "ours" since it's our home.
@WhiteBoy-mq9nt Жыл бұрын
Im just an infantryman in the Army on deployment. On my off time i like to watch these videos. However I have to force focus on every word he says because it hurts my grunt brain lmao
@WhiteBoy-mq9nt Жыл бұрын
Im sjust an infantryman in the Army on deployment. On my off time i like to watch these videos. However I have to force focus on every word he says because it hurts my grunt brain lmao
@r0cketplumber4 жыл бұрын
Searching for alien civilizations via radio is like a drunk looking for his keys under the streetlamp. It's where we can see.
@Veldtian14 жыл бұрын
Looolz..
@shardsofcontent48294 жыл бұрын
... or the keys are obscured by our drunken shadow
@ThomasLee1234 жыл бұрын
I have to laugh because of a recent post of Facebook. There was a sign on a highway that said, "beware of crossing deer", very common in the northeast. One reader was very angry about this. She posted, "This really pisses me off. Are these people crazy? Why don't they just move that sign down the road where there is less traffic." Tell us why there are so many Socialists in the world. They're just dumb!
@chefgiovanni4 жыл бұрын
If you eyes are working, then you also saw some unnatural elements here .
@tsamuel62244 жыл бұрын
Assuming all intelligent species communicate by mental telepathy, we are in the dark to them and them to us. The streetlamp simply isn't even in the same town.
@ryanhampson6733 жыл бұрын
The "Dark Forest" theory could be a reason we haven't heard from anyone...Maybe everyone stays quite because they fear the other "hunters in the forest"...It's safe to say in order to become the dominate species on a planet one would have to be a super predator like us. I'm not saying aliens will be the war mongering invaders we see in movies, but they might also not be like the trope of the highly evolved above using violence type either. They may be just like us, an interesting mix of beautiful dreams and horrible nightmares.
@magicalsimmy Жыл бұрын
@@chandler2I hope you’re right, though with the sheer number of conspiracy theorists that exist, they would find a reason to disbelieve it.
@lgolem09l Жыл бұрын
I find the dark forest Analogie kind of weird, because it likens it to the beginning of our civilization, and we obviously overcame this phase, and not just once, but all over the world.
@Nick-zp8wk Жыл бұрын
Do not answer! Do not answer!! Do not answer!!!
@ryanhampson673 Жыл бұрын
@@chandler2 I’d hope you’d be right, but if the alien species didn’t see us as equals it could go very badly. How guilty do you feel wiping out an anthill? We could just be insects to them.
@oceantree5000 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Liu Cixin fan as well. I believe he coined the term.
@stevechapman74103 жыл бұрын
I would simply like to say thank you for taking the time to make such fascinating and entertaining videos. Wonderful stuff!
@bobwallace32952 жыл бұрын
I've just found your channel and watched 4 videos in a row. Thought provoking, informative, non-judgemental ... by any standard, you have a winner. And a new subscriber. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, keen insight and interesting presentations.
@JonnoPlays3 жыл бұрын
This was very pleasant to watch. The narrator's voice is nice. Good job on the production overall. I subscribed
@DeepUndaInAmsterdam3 жыл бұрын
Eheh the Narrator is professor David Kipping. University of London, Cambridge, Harvard... he's a current professor at Columbia University, where he runs the Cool World Lab. So he's not just a narrator. And yes his voice is incredible!
@b4zs13 жыл бұрын
@@DeepUndaInAmsterdam soundd really good until you hear Sagan talk :)
@loturzelrestaurant3 жыл бұрын
@@DeepUndaInAmsterdam I have the hobby to recommend sci-youtuber to science-fans. I'm often called random or even robot for that, but whatever. I keep going for those few that say 'Yes thanks'.
@DeepUndaInAmsterdam3 жыл бұрын
@@b4zs1 pale blue dot is arguably the best speech ever conceived by humanity. And also yes!! His voice is amazing too!
@HammerDunc3 жыл бұрын
@@DeepUndaInAmsterdam sounds similar to Prof Brian Cox!
@johnfyten33924 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved hearing Carl Sagan's voice again. As a young boy, he sparked a true love of astronomy, and the philosophical pondering of many deep ideas. Hearing his voice again, really brings me back in time....
@johnfyten33924 жыл бұрын
@@ChineduOpara Agreed! Something about his voice and presentation, really allows people to feel the same childlike wonder that I believe Carl Sagan felt his whole life. This channel, and professor Kipping's voice, also convey the same intelligence and intense love of learning, and always wanting to know more.
@johnfyten33924 жыл бұрын
@Julian Watson Ha! I can definitely see your point. Still love the memories of watching Cosmos and entering a whole new world that I never knew before as a kid though.
@maddogtannen69844 жыл бұрын
Did you also have sexual desires for Mr Sagan ?
@maddogtannen69844 жыл бұрын
@@johnfyten3392 okay thank you for clarifying, I was just concerned.
@donaldjohnson2574 жыл бұрын
@Julian Watson.....Wtf is a boomer-centric cosmos?...can't wait to hear this one!!
@alexjeffries52764 жыл бұрын
The most obvious reason we haven’t contacted another civilization should be obvious - the universe is unimaginably large, and our understanding of physics only allows us to reach a fraction of a fraction of our cosmic neighbors let alone the Milky Way let alone the rest of the universe
@user-sh4ug2fk5c4 жыл бұрын
Then why haven’t they contacted us? I would say that the most obvious reason is time. It is likely that we aren’t alone but it is unlikely that we will find aliens in the same time as we exist with the same technological progress we have so we are able to communicate. Classical Fermi paradox talk here.
@BazIrvine4 жыл бұрын
I think they are here. Remember we are only just down from the trees we aren't very advanced we might think we are but it wasn't long ago we invented flight let alone interstellar travel. It's like "Here sit down Alien have a beer and watch the game" and he goes "Is that what you call entertainment right hold said beer we are going for a ride".
@Codeyx184 жыл бұрын
Or maybe because only 10% of the population of the world is involved. Imagine humans clean up there acts, educate the world, and see how far humans can rise
@QueenlySweetpea4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile that is not even the title of this video ( we haven’t contacted another civilization ) .. we are surrounded by an alien civilization is the title, and the thumb-nail shows Easter Island .. so when are we getting on topic ?? hmmmmmm
@alexjeffries52764 жыл бұрын
@@QueenlySweetpea - I mean if your intention is to be painfully literal... but I think the purpose of the video is to stoke imagination; so imagine we haven’t contacted aliens because the universe is big and our technological development relative to the age of the universe is unbelievably minuscule. And if your intention is to be so blandly literal you can’t appreciate the argument I raise based on what was said during the video, I want nothing to do with your kind 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@roberthogue5138 Жыл бұрын
Among all the crappy channels, you stand out as something very different. no ufos , and ancient alien nonsense. Thank you for intelligent content
@rdaws73 Жыл бұрын
So a channel that doesn't challenge your world view. Wow, amazing.
@diegotravieso894711 ай бұрын
lol I get what you mean but aliens have been here wanted or not
@jameshall130010 ай бұрын
@@rdaws73 "challenging your worldview" is generally code for conspiracy theorist nonsense masquerading as science
@derekelliott60989 ай бұрын
@@diegotravieso8947 Few and far between. I do like The Why Files too. That channel is a good listen for interesting stories.
@Ali1961-b9s9 ай бұрын
Surprisingly unintelligent responses here. Just accept that there is no concrete evidence of aliens. Yet. All else is speculation at the moment.
@ryanmcnair34514 жыл бұрын
Love your calming vibe as you present mind boggling themes and concepts.
@Djr673 жыл бұрын
You are my favourite narrator Professor Kipping. What a wonderful calming voice you have.
@revmatchtv4 жыл бұрын
Love the editing of this one! Thanks for the inspiring content you give us so often. Your channel is one of my favorites.
@icarus26782 жыл бұрын
I'm working my way through your library. This was amazing, and has started conversations with people around me that have not even considered these questions. Thank you for your time and effort.
@0xNameless4 жыл бұрын
I rarely watch videos over 10 min on KZbin, except for this channel! Amazing content!
@blitzmotorscooters16353 жыл бұрын
I think the concept of a Prime Directive (in some form) makes sense for an older civilization to take. The idea of non-interference seems inevitable to me, not because I fantasize about them being morally anthropomorphic, but because the act of not making contact creates less risk potential for drama, war, manipulation, boringness etc... If 'they' are likely to be far more advanced, then their indifference to us and their disinterest in us is somewhat expected. We may even be able to see their worlds, and happen upon some of their ships up close and still be 'cold shouldered' and never communicated with. They might not care unless we were interfering with their interests. I once jotted down an idea for a sci fi story plot. The idea was that a genuinely alien species came from a near-by star say 10-15 lightyears away. This star-faring species was very much hominid looking in appearance, in that they were bipedal, breathed the same gases and tolerated similar gravity/air pressure. They also made audible sounds to communicate, basically a pretty anthropomorphic species. They came to our system and basically started loitering around our moon and even taking up space on two continents in remote areas albeit in small numbers and lightweight ships. Their weapons were not catastrophic but they were continuously being violent. Our attempts to communicate with them and to understand them kept meeting with massacres and human leaders were trying to figure out what to do, considering that the alien's technology was several millennia ahead of humanity and the aliens were showing no signs of wanting to share tech, trade, or even study us. Out of nowhere, a ton more of them show up and begin obliterating satellites, 1st world air bases/missile installations and also killing the inhabitants of a few small South American cities/villages with toxic gas in an effort to annex that geography for themselves. But this is where it gets interesting. Another alien species, completely non-anthropomorphic in appearance and supremely more advanced than both humans and those invaders from Tau Ceti, comes in from Titan (moon of Saturn) and they start whipping the invading aliens butts. The non-anthropomorphic aliens are terrifying in appearance but are protecting humanity. They stand about 9-12 feet tall and are bipedal but they certainly arent anything like a mammal. Their heads resemble an eagle because they have dark beady eyes that dart around and a large ominous beak. They dont speak or make noise beyond the sounds of their devices and tech-suits. They have feather-like skin but mostly theyre covered by the bioengineered suits they wear. Normally you cant make out their face/head because they not only wear helmets but they all have personalized force-fields around them. Later it is found that the force field which distorts light, also disrupts spacetime. The field around their person dilates gravity/time among other things like noble gases, airpressure and temperature. The field enables them to move abruptly and even disappear. Its apparent they like it COLD and must be quite comfortable in conditions that are absolutely inhospitable to humans, "deep cold well below the line" as Ash would say. These Bird Aliens as I call them, wipe out the invading aliens completely. They literally smoke every last one of them in a matter of days. But not only that, they commandeer ALL the invaders' Gen Ships/space vessels/shuttle craft and hand them over to humans as an obvious leg up. We're talking about 6 LARGE Gen ships in orbit, 3 dozen mid-size starships capable of planetary re-entry and a few hundred smaller craft including some land assault vehicles. All the invaders are deceased and all their tech essentially gift wrapped for human reverse engineering. Towards the end, the super Bird Aliens leave as fast as they arrived. Except a dozen of them on one of their ships stays for a few months in northern Russia. The world's best scientists and xeno biologists make slight progress in trying to communicate with the _Berds_ but ultimately not much can be learned because they are so far evolved and superior. The Berds' own offerings, presentations and gestures dont make much sense to us. It is learned though, that they dwell on Titan but are not native to this system although theyve been in the Sol system since well before homo Ergaster roamed Earth 3 million years ago. They presented a crud diagram of Earth when the continents were shifted in the past. We deduced some of their symbols to be an Earth Calendar but the days were off compared to our modern timekeeping. It became evident that they had intervened once (perhaps more) in human affairs following the eruption of a volcano 80,000 years prior on the island of Sumatra. (TOBA ERUPTION). Although its not exactly known from the data we translated, its looks like the Berds relocated some surviving humans during that ancient crisis. Its not known whether they uplifted our genetics at any point but arguments on the topic never seem to end. And then like that, they were gone. The closing of the book reveals an astronomer reviewing James Webb Telescope data, watching a large Berd fleet appearing to leave Titan headed further out towards Neptune but we lost sight of them. No one saw any flashes or evidence of spacetime disruption (as if a wormhole or some fanciful FTL tech was being used) ... they just disappeared. Many Nations are now conglomerating on a mission to explore Titan.
@xptaco22983 жыл бұрын
So what I got from this is that there is a observation post on or near titan?
@NyoomMonster3 жыл бұрын
I want to read this book Please make it
@samr.england6133 жыл бұрын
Wow! That has to be the longest KZbin post I've never read. 🤔
@smoker6969693 жыл бұрын
Mate, that sounds really cool. Try and write it, I'd be interested
@lennym12733 жыл бұрын
One problem they find out we eat birds and they wipe us all out...
@finnilrebna3483 жыл бұрын
“You get the point, you’ve lived through 2020.” I like this guy, a lot. He’s sharp, and keeps my interest. Subscribed!
@neoxenia70142 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest channels I've seen in quite a while, I love the format of your videos.
@martintufte4 жыл бұрын
Such an insightful video, I really enjoy the curious mindset you induce to the audience!
@siyandamagubane87113 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to the channel - you make astronomy really palatable for curious minds! Thank you and keep up the good work!
@gabrielkripalani16812 жыл бұрын
Thank you VERY much for producing this video. This was prime, I really love when I leave KZbin smarter!
@Critical_mtb4 жыл бұрын
"You get the idea...you lived through 2020" lmao
@xceddy12324 жыл бұрын
@Odinson Warrior if 2021 isn't worse lol
@Arthur_CNW4 жыл бұрын
Mark my words; 2020 is not over yet.
@kylekyle18054 жыл бұрын
2020 is a speeding car on the sidewalk driven by a drunk driver and we arent out of gas yet.
@donaldjohnson2574 жыл бұрын
@@therainbow5562.....don't need no stinking bonus!
@artemi74 жыл бұрын
I feel so called out right now lol
@danielowarren3 жыл бұрын
It took a little long to get there, but I’m so glad to finally see a temporal view to other civilizations. I’ve always thought the question of IF there is intelligent life was the wrong question. We should be asking WHEN is the intelligent life, and what is the chance any life could survive long enough to be able to find another life form or be found.
@rustusandroid2 жыл бұрын
It's bad science to skip the initial question on life. It's far from settled.
@Nunyabis12 Жыл бұрын
Also that, if life does exist, is it so rare that it - probability wise - occurs once in a galaxy? Once in a local group? Ones in a super cluster?
@johnburke568 Жыл бұрын
Good thought
@danielwarren8850 Жыл бұрын
@@rustusandroidI think that the only way to look for life is to start with the assumption that it may be rare but no matter how rare it may be the practically infinite universe makes it almost a certainty. Using the temporal view helps us also see how it’s nearly impossible to ever even find an answer to this question even if it is “common”, it’s practically and nearly statistically impossible to ever interact with another intelligent life form.
@rustusandroid11 ай бұрын
@@danielwarren8850 There are 10 to the 95th atom particles in the ENTIRE universe. The different that ways carbon molucules can form is 10 to the 95 BILLIONTH... Only ONE way can support life. THis is an unlikely statistic by chance, and it is ony ONE statistic out of thousands that are similarily unlikely.... So NO, I think you have no idea what you really think you know.
@naomisherred1664 жыл бұрын
Wow! Where have you been all my KZbin life lol?! Only found your channel today and so glad I did! All the videos are beautifully presented and very clearly and easily explained so a big thanks from me 😊😊
@777dexx3 жыл бұрын
@@jg1174 John I was just going to say that, well said...
@keithfernandez89652 жыл бұрын
Totally AMAZING....and AWESOME !! HAPPY NEW YEAR
@riteshyeddu3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that you acknowledged the Indus Valley civilization, almost everybody seems to overlook it!
@deedunn19892 жыл бұрын
Good ole Eurocentricism for ya
@reptilianai59644 жыл бұрын
He said grab a cup of tea, "Explains the powerful truth behind Temporal Bias" one bottle of spirit later & a DMT trip and it turns out that i was already watching this 100 years ago...
@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz4 жыл бұрын
Turns out you've been watching it for eternity.
@dradexx4 жыл бұрын
@@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz spot on. you follow actualized.org?
@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz4 жыл бұрын
@@dradexx Nah, idk what that is.
@nikmacfarlane61174 жыл бұрын
@@dradexx nah, but that first one. Guided exercise for realizing you're God. 😉
@dradexx4 жыл бұрын
@@nikmacfarlane6117 the answers to the universe in one podcast
@ISILENTNINJAI4 жыл бұрын
I could fall asleep 😴 listening to this man. Not because he is boring because he is very good at presenting vivid imagery through his explanations. Plus his voice is soothing .
@lukesanchez99618 ай бұрын
Thumbnail: 🗿
@YoghurtEquity6 ай бұрын
Brilliant comment, you're a genius.
@lukesanchez99616 ай бұрын
@@YoghurtEquity no need to thank me
@KangMiichael4 ай бұрын
🍷🗿
@suitestheband3 ай бұрын
this guy has eyes. either that or the captions read it to him. either way, he's got perception. and that's what you need to detect aliens. Luke Sanchez, you're our only hope.
@lukesanchez99613 ай бұрын
@@suitestheband real
@vyncinther16914 жыл бұрын
That interstellar music should be used every time in your videos. It makes it sound so epic and interesting!!
@LIGHTandPEACE4 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment and appreciate how he can put amazing background music. I love your voice your channel all the way from Ethiopia.
@johnfyten33924 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best channels I've found on KZbin. He takes his time, and produces beautifully produced videos.
@availanila4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is such high quality work.
@johnfyten33924 жыл бұрын
@@availanila I don't know if you've heard of the channel, but if you're interested in astronomy, search Parallax Nick on KZbin sometime. He has a more amateur, yet still very well done channel about astronomy with far too few subscribers for the content he provides.
@LIGHTandPEACE4 жыл бұрын
@@johnfyten3392 I love space stuff. Thank you for your recommendation to this beautiful channel. I already subscribed.
@johnfyten33924 жыл бұрын
@@LIGHTandPEACE That's great! I never had a chance to go to college, as I had a family of my own to support, while very young and broke, lol, but it's great to learn about astronomy and the universe nonetheless. It gives me a chance to get away from the stress of life when I listen to this at night whenever possible.
@petetomasko71503 жыл бұрын
Great video. I will not pretend to understand everything covered but I am glad there are people in the world like you who try to explain it.
@iSuperVamp2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@Alister222222 Жыл бұрын
A bit of an odd consequence of this approach, is that the older we get, the older we should assume other civilizations should be on average. I guess that makes sense, since if we are observing our own civilization survive for longer and longer periods, it would be the safest bet (but of course, only a bet) to guess that other civilizations would be tend to survive for that kind of timespan. Here's hoping for a long-lived humanity, so other aliens out there can enjoy similarly long lives!
@lyktfxc7 ай бұрын
This is the problem of having only one data point...
@celestialceilagor38025 ай бұрын
the way i see it, earth is the only planet proven to have life on it, and as far as we know this has been a continuous streak, not off and on - 3.8 billion years of uninterrupted life. using this we can see that for life on other planets to exist at the same time as ours it should've existed at least 3.8 billion years before earths life began, or started in the present and has at least 3.8 billion years for us to meet it before its continuation is not most likely or has started somewhere around 1.5 billion years after us and we have only half the time to find em, or we are exactly the same age, meaning that they could go extinct tomorrow and we wouldnt know they were there in the first place, but everything outside of that 7 billion year gap is probably long gone or being in the future doesnt exist yet. this narrows it down quite alot and considering its take so long to even achieve space travel and radio, we probably will not meet any aliens - even if its likely that there are an inquanitfyable number of them out there.
@celestialceilagor38025 ай бұрын
over time and technological advancement it becomes more and more likely that we will find other aliens, around the time that we are able to explore different systems then we could safely assume that some aliens could, but note that as we get older and more advanced coming across civilisations much younger and less advanced than us is more likely - though it is very likely that theyd have an equal amount of life to live as our mean longevities say 6 billlion and 2 billion = 4 billion meaning theyd have 2 billion more, it also becomes more likely for the opposite to happen and for us to meet a much more long lived alien civilisation first, but one thats future was entirely uncertain. lets also remember that time =/= advancement the older civilisation could be much much older but also be made up of tiny photosynthesising insects that are so small or are so well camoflaged we dont even notice them before weve already brutalised and crushed hundreds. they could be entirely gone within a week of first contact, but a much younger civilisation of hyper intelligent six armed monkeys may meet us first and use their advancement and guaranteed longevity as leverage.
@JoJoRogain10 сағат бұрын
The Meek Shall Inherit the Worlds
@jcejka20114 жыл бұрын
Dr. Kipping - i know ExoMoons are your jam but just want to say you have a presence, voice and introspection about astronomy at large that rivals anyone since Sagan. You are very engaging and champion of the science.
@elysecrawford47904 жыл бұрын
I just love and appreciate your videos so much. They are always so well done! Thank you
@cebas74 жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on videos but I loved this one! from my point of view: older civilizations would only observe us without interact.
@JeepRoad4 жыл бұрын
When our civilization was newer, we would capture animals and put them in cages, and show them in traveling circus. Now we are trending to larger zoo enclosures approximating their habitat, or preserves, or just observing them in the wild. I think an older advanced civilization would know how to observe us without being detected if they wanted to; whereas a civ that recently developed interstellar travel would be more likely to abduct someone or be noticed, at least.
@spinfrost4 жыл бұрын
Question is are there so many civilizations that saving this one is not a priority or do they go around grabbing samples for preservation of biological data but not culture.
@josecarlosavendano54313 жыл бұрын
Looking at how beligerent we are to practice violence upon others I would think that a more advanced civilization would choose not to interact with us, unless there was a fundamental gain for them such as having an ally in a interstellar war, gain access to an odd resource or a need to satisfy the curiosity of their scholars to study our planet´s incredible biodiversity
@bloodwolf26093 жыл бұрын
He pointed out in the video that if a civilisation was younger than us we would probably be more likely to contact them given the low risk, so I naturally would assume that another more advanced civilisation would arrive at the same conclusion. But after watching that kurg video about magnitudes of civilisations it convinced me that there actually is never going to be any overlap of extraterrestrial civilisations sadly.
@JoJoRogain10 сағат бұрын
@@josecarlosavendano5431 bioengineering may be the highest form of art. They may let us be the artists ourselves, knowing their own journeys
@markcasey25172 жыл бұрын
This man, has one of the most layered and probing minds, of my life time. An incredible orator.
@dknadeau09124 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing better than seeing a new Cool Worlds video being released.
@therover97034 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dknadeau09124 жыл бұрын
@Brad Viviviyal Good one
@filippo81893 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel. Such high-quality, careful, insightful content. This is what all pop science should be like.
@patfase3 жыл бұрын
This is my new favourite channel. I think I've watched about 4 hours of your channel in the last few days. I can't believe how good the content you're making is. It's like the best aspects of Kurzgesagt, PBS Spacetime, and Vsauce crammed into one. I am looking forward to exploring more of your videos.
@GavinJGallagher2 жыл бұрын
I just love this video, its one of the few vids on KZbin that I go back to again and again, probably watched it 6-7 times already...
@andywehre79124 жыл бұрын
11:52 "You get it, you lived through 2020." Best line of the vid!
@UnknownMoses4 жыл бұрын
Have not made it yet
@shoam21034 жыл бұрын
In the future: what happened in 2020?
@TristanArmes4 жыл бұрын
Great video once again. Me and my long distance girlfriend watch your videos together as soon as I get the notification about them. We both have spoken about many of the topics you cover on your channel and your videos spark even more intrigue and curiosity for us. We spend lots of time discussing and speculating on your videos and thinking even further into the what ifs and hows. Truly inspiring videos, and we genuinely look forward to every new one you create, especially with covid keeping us apart for even longer. Keep up the good work :)
@CoolWorldsLab4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! So glad our videos help give you guys something to chat about!
@prototropo4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Tristan-that’s a really sweet thing for a couple to do together.
@stevesalkas91282 жыл бұрын
How far away is she 50 100 thousand years
@lorenzonotarianni16674 жыл бұрын
I have a next door neighbour that is an elderly spinster and she reminds me of early alien civilisations. Greetings from Italy.
@francisfischer76202 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Wonderful voice and articulation! Bless you from a retired voice teacher, Francis
@wolfie67274 жыл бұрын
I am not a physics students but I develop some real appreciation of statistics by watching your videos
@theCodyReeder4 жыл бұрын
Ok I’m sorry but the people grinding wheat in the beginning. Grinding the whole tassel?! That’s not how you process wheat! Ok mini rant over, probably not your fault, proceed. 😆
@CoolWorldsLab4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see you here Cody! Big fan! I grabbed that from Andrew Marr’s History of the World show so actually that’s really interesting to hear that they got that wrong
@donaldjohnson2574 жыл бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab....Actually, in those days, everything on the wheat plant was ground...they wasted nothing!
@aidanmcferris93484 жыл бұрын
THAT is actually used as an analogy in the Bible by Yahweh!
@scottjohnstone62044 жыл бұрын
You elwheatist Cody! 😂👍🏻
@scottjohnstone62044 жыл бұрын
@kenneth dinning - Wild Raccoon's But what about the Jews!? Won't somebody think of the Jews!? 😉👍🏻
@vcuheel14644 жыл бұрын
One assumption made in this discussion seems to be that technological advancement of civilizations depends on the age of the civilization. I realize that this point doesn’t invalidate the math in this, but I feel like it does play a part in how we envision older/younger civilizations and it certainly would affect our ability to detect them. It’s possible that some intelligent species develop on planets that don’t have the resources (fossil fuels) to become an industrial civilization or to develop the technology to destroy themselves. We could be surrounded by low-tech/no-tech civilizations that are similar to pre-industrial human civilizations but are much, much older than us. This is one of my preferred solutions to the Fermi paradox. We seem to assume that fossil fuels are abundant in the galaxy, but their availability depends on certain conditions occurring and the timing of those events being just right.
@totalermist4 жыл бұрын
We even have a data point that backs this hypothesis: human civilisation basically started thousands of years ago, yet the industrial revolution started only 200 years ago and not even globally. Even on our own planet industrialisation was a historical fluke resulting from very specific circumstances and neither an obvious nor logical consequence of our development.
@djmace90294 жыл бұрын
@@totalermist Which means that civilisations like us who can become a space farming species could be extremely rare.
@casadosdebates4 жыл бұрын
One of the branches of this hypothesis is that most cases of intelligence emergency could happen in places like moons with subsurface oceans of liquid water as Europa and Enceladus, then we could have plenty of civilizations that rarely discover fire and rarely develop high tecnology and they could be trapped inside those moons without even knowing of the universe outside. Another case is that civilizations could emerge in planets like superearths where the gravity is higher than earth's, and that would get costs of sending satelites and individuals to space higher or even not viable. How would that impact the development of high technology? In both scenarios we could have plenty of older civilizations with less technology than us.
@newdefsys4 жыл бұрын
Let me add the old adage 'necessity is the mother of invention'. A general systems collapse (societal collapse) occurs partly when established resources run out, leading to advancements in technology. A civilization on a planet with abundant resources which are easily gathered, distributed and consumed by the population is not going to advance as quickly because there is no perceived need to do so.
@casadosdebates4 жыл бұрын
@@newdefsys Excellent point.
@Valisk1312 жыл бұрын
This channel is brain food. I've always sucked at and been intimidated by mathematics but here I get the "gist" of what is discussed. This channel is one of my favourites, thanks.
@PRMBACN4 ай бұрын
I strongly agree. I somehow made it through precalculus in high school, though struggling quite a bit, and it still boggles my brain. In the video they casually drop some calculus and I'm nodding along like that makes sense. Fun to work my brain in a way I haven't for a long time.
@tonyk46154 жыл бұрын
Well, grabbed a pint instead. I really enjoy how well thought out your videos are and I’ve always found the topic of extraterrestrial life fascinating.
@WilliamJSSequeira4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, I was opening my mouth for a rebuttal at 14:00 when He cut me off to address it lol. Love this.
@wickedpissa254 жыл бұрын
The channel is the greatest series since Cosmos. You are the best person since the late Dr Sagan to be able to explain such complex scientific concepts into easily-understood language. Keep up the good work!
@CaseyW4915 ай бұрын
Such a huge fan of Kipping's. These videos are so well done, and well edited also.
@Avarn_4 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video. They always spark my curiosity and wonder. It's amazing to think of the number of possibly short lived civilisations that could have come and gone in the just the short blip of time we have existed at all.
@CoolWorldsLab4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I thought that too. How much diversity and experiments took place that we will never know about...
@Mister_Kourkoutas3 жыл бұрын
“ORGANIC CIVILISATIONS RISE, EVOLVE, ADVANCE AND AT THE APEX OF THEIR GLORY, THEY ARE EXTINGUISHED.” - Sovereign
@fcuk_x3 жыл бұрын
You are nothing.
@RaduP33 жыл бұрын
hehe i got that reference
@JonnoPlays3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of data here to support cyclicle societies here on earth. Very interesting!
@extrememiami3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Strawb misspelling one word or going out of your way to be a dick to someone in the comment section of a video to show your superiority. Maybe societies end because everyone eventually acts like that in time.
@extrememiami3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsarchus6036 he said "here on earth" he's saying earth societies. Lots of data on that. Alien no, earth yes. If you mean that doesn't necessarily mean they have any correlation, then yes that would be a good point.
@drewg43233 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsarchus6036 If you think assumptions are what was presented here then you are not nearly as smart as you think you are.
@xxtravdamanxx3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsarchus6036 YOU'RE SPECIAL ED!!
@benjamintherogue24213 жыл бұрын
And it seems we're at the end of ours.
@joegordon51176 ай бұрын
Another fascinating piece, thank you. And always delghted to see Carl Sagan being mentioned. When I was growing up we had Sagan with Cosmos, Attenborough's Life on Earth and films from Jacques Cousteau. They all fed my mind, and created a lifelong fascination that continues today, hence why I enjoy watching and thinking about series like Cool Worlds
@tahzwalker4 жыл бұрын
Glad I held off on that blunt before watching this, I would have been lost...
@mickelodiansurname95784 жыл бұрын
Damn... so thats why my basic math failed me... Advice welcome... but far too late!
@pillarheights11304 жыл бұрын
or found even a deeper meaning
@j.b.gruberiiiesq65823 жыл бұрын
I’m too late lol
@j.b.gruberiiiesq65823 жыл бұрын
Scott Steiner math makes more sense
@just.wing.it883 жыл бұрын
Wish I did 🥺
@AndieBlack134 жыл бұрын
"You're still half savage, but there is hope. We will contact you when we are ready", A "Metrone", Star Trek 1966. The concepts of empathy, mercy, forgiveness, compassion are an ethereal hazy thought processes we find being "right", noble, correct....but we don't know them fully. It may be that we are fully known by more advanced species, but a specific "hands-off" policy may be in place, so we are not aware of their presence.
@AndieBlack134 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone Such a "policy" adhered to by higher beings may only apply to "conscious" aware, intelligent beings...and we are in that particular classification....as crude as we may be.
@AndieBlack134 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAlcyone Well, we currently think of an advanced lifeform as coming from a biological beginning, an entity evolving from a lower form. Its initial senses could remain in a more "un-needed" form, sight, sound, touch...much as ourselves, with our not-so-needed keen sense of smell. The key would be awareness with thought & those remaining senses...Within these senses, AND our devices & inventions, our awareness has increased. Take vision for example, our sight is abysmally limited, but we can detect, manipulate a whole host of energies well outside of our visual detections of the EM spectrum. Our ancient evolutionary needs did not include detecting RF "signals" nor creations of such. The manipulations of our environments has been profound & lasting, molding our world exactly into want we want, desire or need. Just as I type this at 3"48 PM Tuesday afternoon, , from Mar del Plata Argentina, a sunny warm day outside, yes indeed I'm aware of much, my fellow man walking up the street, dogs barking outside this very moment..yes, I am aware, as you are when you read these very words & process my train of thought.
@AndieBlack133 жыл бұрын
@Speedbird I understand, (feel me)...Lightspeed travel within interstellar travel would seem key to an advanced species. Just obtaining lightspeed would still be very limiting & would have "visits" very few & far between...Almost as if these sailors of space traveling some 7 KPH along the seas, take a very long time to get somewhere....jet airliner travel still thousands of years in their future.
@LukeA12233 жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that we may have been put in a planetary "playpen", when we evolve into something more advanced we will leave on our own to join up with those higher life forms (so far beyond us now) that have left behind the traces of their evolutionary processes we call "Wonders".
@adram3lech3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Your take on cloak planets took my interest. I've always thought of Sagan's voyager as a giant security breach. They were simply too optimistic. We are fine by ourselves, looking for contact at the expense of information asymmetry only offers danger, in my opinion. A strong flaw in many SETI people's minds is this: An alien may not be formed as "civilization". It seems there are many scales of life from the analogies we can make on earth (my cells, my organs, myself, my family, the human race, my planet): these are scaled and distinguished so clearly only to US. Let alone making contact with another civilization, the alien life that we find might not even have a notion of "communication". These thoughts have me dreaded over the possibility that we can just be erased in a blink out of existence by something out there. It doesn't need to be an epic story of World Warz. Evolution is the only mode of life we know, it doesn't mean it is the only mode of sentience or anything that can be a danger. On the matter of homogeneity: Do not forget the fact that we are trying to determine whether earth is flat or sphere based on our little, small patch of land. We can never fully trust our observations of homogeneity. It is highly biased in many ways. We have evolved based on what Earth had to offer, and what we needed to survive. We have 0 about the extent of things we do not or cannot know. Hell, calculating might be a very primitive way of acquiring information. Knowing might be a very primitive way of understanding. We all know that our minds are not built to understand the universe, but to survive our local environment. We can count because we had to distinguish the number of intruders, preys, predators. We can see an apple seperate from its background because we need that kind of recognition for everything we do. This means "seperation of things" might be just a mode of understanding or bias, or just something peculiar to us (earthlings). I know these are extreme examples but how else can we perceive the vast vagueness of scenarios? Who is to say if an alien sentient being arrives, it will perceive us as something different than earth; just like we unconsciously perceive plants as background stuff of earth? Who is to say that if an alien sentient being arrives it will acknowledge my body as one single sentient being? Who is to say we know what types of sentience there are in our home planet, maybe we are just the cellular formation in a much radically different being that we formed? Who is to say our notion of causality is native to the fabric of the universe? I also want to thank you for bringing statistical insight to these topics, something youtube content is missing altogether and something vital to proper understanding in many subjects. Your point of universe adopting exponential distributions makes me think that, just like matter strives to create heavier and heavier elements through novae, it also strives to create a sentient being that can survive the most dreadful scenarios it can offer. Perhaps, we can even think of it as the ultimate mission of the universe (a nice fantasy to think of): to create a sentient being that can survive the impending doom and break the ultimate cycle of spacetime. Something that can survive the big rip, or the heat death, or the cyclical nature of it all. Sorry for the disoriented text, I like to write as a listen.
@jakubjaszczyk29083 жыл бұрын
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@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ3 жыл бұрын
This made me thinking that maybe aliens may be so advanced that they no longer even need civilization. Every individual of their race could be perfectly self sufficient in every environment without any dependence on things produced by others. And so that might hinder our attempts to discover them even more.
@BeastnHarlotDFO3 жыл бұрын
Seeing us as background information akin to earth, similar to how we see plants as a part of the earth, was insightful. Had never considered that before.
@johannes74343 жыл бұрын
This was a great comment. Had a lot of these thoughts here and there as well but it's hard to put them in language/writing since they are so abstract and probably not even nearly abstract enough. What if the entire solar system/galaxy/universe is the equivalent to what one of the trillions of cells in my body is to me? Or I am to the entirety of humanity (1/7.9B) or even life on earth in general? I think the universe tends to work in analogies and self-symmetrie.
@beimsteiner3 жыл бұрын
Very true. Our mental filters define our reality and worldview. We're basically ants on the surface of the Earth, and imagine other beings to be our mirror image.
@srmxe4174 ай бұрын
What a great channel and narrator! One datapoint teaches you a guess for the mean, but teaches you nothing about the variance or uncertainty in lifetimes..
@exoplanets4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I hope they are friendly too :S
@gibber19444 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry. We have nothing a star-spanning species would need.
@IchigoKurosakicool4 жыл бұрын
pretty sure it's them who need to worry about that, just a guess though.
@philipeanthonybattung38604 жыл бұрын
@@gibber1944 unless they need us.
@Brainstorm43004 жыл бұрын
They have no reason to be friendly towards us. Foreigners have consistently taken advantage of natives and replaced the demography. We just have to look at our history to see that. It is not only limited to humans but most species as there are many invasive species of plants and animals. If they find us first, we are doomed and if we find them first, they are doomed.
@creationfied4 жыл бұрын
@@Brainstorm4300 yeah perhaps, but that's a very human interpretation of what aliens possibly millions of years ahead of us would be. if I were an alien species with advanced technologies then I would find more efficient ways of doing things, they wouldnt say invade us or exploit us because we probably wont even be produce a hair of what they are capable of producing
@andreassk3 жыл бұрын
I believe they would rather leave us be until we "grow up" some more.
@leeriches88413 жыл бұрын
Well they'll be waiting a hell of a long time 😂
@jayb2933 жыл бұрын
don't forget that it's easier to step down than step up your game. so by definition, they have more interest of engaging us than the other way around. because we couldn't figure out how/what to say to them. when they could easily learn our language to come down at our level of communication. faster and easier way IMO. after that we could learn from them. and step up our game.
@annedrieck73163 жыл бұрын
Those untapped oil reserves, damn those alines😡😡😡
@GINNERMAN4 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos and an amazing channel. Thought provoking content, really great job
@danielm39762 жыл бұрын
At first I thought that you are one of those people that like to hear themselves speak. But then I actually watched your videos about aliens. I think you are inspiring a lot of people , like me, that look up and wonder “how the hell are we alone?”. Thank you sir.
@earlparker18004 ай бұрын
The guy is really not that hard on the ears either. He is as well one of the smart and most interesting auditor I've ever found on these subjects. Glad you came in. All ideas are worth hearing.
@MarijnvdSterre4 жыл бұрын
20:35 I have no idea why we should be at the halfway value. Sounds like an assumption to me. Further I am curious how many civilizations did really end, aren't most either being destroyed by an other civilization or collapsed but being the basis for a new civilization? Both would mean they aren't really gone as it is used in the data. A planet with a civilization who faces 1 of those two things would still be there and go on. It is also assumed that there isn't a point where a civilization basically has no more treats to worry about.
@drivewayhero3 жыл бұрын
Write a paper
@rdooski4 жыл бұрын
Great work! I only subscribe to approximately 0.5% of channels after seeing only 1 video:) I always thought most alien civilizations out there would be older than us. Pretty much just based on the fact of how incredibly young we are compared to everything else. I actually would guess its more like 80% older.
@CoolWorldsLab4 жыл бұрын
Well we get 75% so we’re in close agreement! Thanks for joining us
@rdooski4 жыл бұрын
@@CoolWorldsLab Ha thanks for the reply! I was just listening to the audio while in the car so I could have easily missed some parts, but I thought I heard 60%. Cool to know my slightly educated guess/intuition was pretty close:)
@rukhsanamakhdoom78444 жыл бұрын
Very interesting documentary.
@LarsAwesome-co4np Жыл бұрын
There is also another variable to consider with the longer-lived civilizations. If they lived long enough to create the technology to transcend the planetary boundaries and spread to other planets, then they would no longer be susceptible to the vagaries of a planetary catastrophe. Thus, the longer a civilization exists, the more it has the potential to continue existing after that point. That would mean that some of the red dots would never fade out and push the probability of a civilization being older even higher..
@waltuh-y2m2 ай бұрын
but here another important question arises: will this civilization, distributed across different systems, still be considered one civilization, given the climatic and biological differences of the environments and, thus, the different courses of evolution?
@garyschasteen94403 жыл бұрын
I think our biggest issue would be the question of whether a common disease in one or both of the civilizations could wipe out the other. We would probably want to keep physical distance for that reason. It turns out that's one of the reasons why we don't go down and try to make contact with some remaining societies that have been geographically separated from ours for a long time. This was a very interesting and fun video to watch. Thank you for creating and sharing!
@denisemcdougal6445 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dannels93604 жыл бұрын
I'm one of your frenetic fans,thank you for your inspiring video!I love science!
@eowendyl4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Statistically sound for sure, but once a civilization becomes multiplanetary their chances of survival probably go up quite a bit because so many of the extinction events no longer wipe them out entirely. This would create an interesting curve.
@liusam6514 жыл бұрын
Yep a lot of limitations, as expected for such theoretical discussions
@richard--s4 жыл бұрын
Istaria, yes, but our past civilizations died out because of us humans ourselves, not because of an asteroid impact, etc. Being multiplanetary does not stop us from fighting against each other like in many places on earth or like in every past civilization. This might be a war between countries or it might be because of unsatisfied people in some countries. And that is not limited to countries, to continents or to neighboring planets.
@dootersnooter53434 жыл бұрын
Might be similar to human lifestyle expectancy when adding medicine etc
@eowendyl4 жыл бұрын
@@richard--s Definitely, but like the video states, eventually "something will hit the fan" if you stick around too long - it's just a matter of when. It's a good idea to not to stick around until this happens. Of course it's not the only way a species/civilization could fail but you can only resist the RNG gods for so long.
@richard--s4 жыл бұрын
@@eowendyl yes, you are true. Good points!
@ShamballaStyles2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this mans voice forever…. Not only is he giving the most interesting information. His voice is so calming and joyful to listen to I am hooked the minute he starts talking. I fall asleep listening to all his videos … every night. I can’t get enough. Please keep uploading content.
@robdetuinman2 Жыл бұрын
Same here lol. My go to sleep inducer. I love the voice, words everything! It's poetry! I don't think I need more than 10 mnutes and I'm gone lol. Of course I've seen all by daytime too. What's your favorite? Mine is "Why going FTL leads to time paradoxes"
@RosariaDewi4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they already visit us when we are still in younger age like summerian civ.
@enlightenmentiskey35124 жыл бұрын
maybe
@Chris-adams-rc-journey4 жыл бұрын
We are probably an award winning national geographic/reality TV show to them.
@Chris-adams-rc-journey4 жыл бұрын
Hope it's not the final season😬
@smallstudiodesign4 жыл бұрын
I just came from a Fall of Civilizations podcast about Sumerians ...
@mickelodiansurname95784 жыл бұрын
As opposed to the other 4.5 billion years the planet has been here right? Theres that one tiny sliver of time thats in the 'maybe'.... yeah sure maybe that happened... maybe I'll win the lottery, maybe I'll find those socks that went missing after xmas? Who knows...?
@willtruthteller46944 жыл бұрын
Finally. Wish you did this full time. Look forward to every video you release.
@MG-er6dm4 жыл бұрын
In this isolation l once again have my "Cool Worlds" best friend (and Prof) with me. What peaceful tones! 😍
@MG-er6dm3 жыл бұрын
@Kenneth's - God & Nature Thanks Kenneth for your comment. I was truly blessed. PS With my time nearing its earthly end, l note how God's peace does transcend it all. Please pray for my dear wife and now grown up children. Particularly think of my youngest daughter. All these walk with Christ and yet it is more difficult for them than it is for me. 😃
@davidrhee65952 жыл бұрын
I have just discovered this KZbin page. The probabilities for that were great to begin with due to my interest in astrophysics. Still, I love it and will watch all the videos when I can. Thank you for this.
@theinnerpalacemind38253 жыл бұрын
Always so inspiring, so intriguing and so mind expanding! Civilizations and their longevity. When I hear David narrating I literally can feel my brain activating and thinking. Now concerning the ages of civilizations, extraterrestrial civilizations, I think that we project our human experience a bit too much on those extraterrestrial civilizations. Who says that they actually reside in civilizations? Perhaps they have a completely different take on that. Plus, concerning technological developments, perhaps they just don't need technology or use technology to thrive and expand. Anyway, I always enjoy listening to David indescribable much. Thank you!
@Bluffmaster1794 жыл бұрын
I m glad that i found ur channel
@winter-survivor4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating subject. Thanks for the thoughts.
@matous8957 ай бұрын
How have I not discovered this channel sooner?! :D I love space, but really often the videos are not scientific at all. I love this! Thank you, sir!
@jjp69704 жыл бұрын
Advanced civilizations have discovered immortality!
@TheSkyGuy774 жыл бұрын
or they blew themselves up and there's no trace of them anywhere anymore.
@rexred95523 жыл бұрын
If your predictions are correct and we’re approaching the theoretical mean with in a century or two, then what do you think could be a plausible interpretation of the Great Filter theory? Also is there a video coming up on the topic, I would love to see it. Keep up the great work!!
@simonroberts83034 жыл бұрын
An interesting concept, can you take this further. If we did discover another more advance life or vice versa, would we be able to communicate with them or based or would they have already become extinct (making an assumption we can't travel faster than light) and in effect we will only be interstellar archaeologist examining the data available through astronomical technologies of civilisations that have died out before the light even gets to us.
@haroldburrows47704 жыл бұрын
I'm glad some else understands what vast distances were talking about
@EdricLysharae4 жыл бұрын
The great challenge is not distance, but time.
@haroldburrows47704 жыл бұрын
@@EdricLysharae , very true, I don't think theirs any shielding that could handle even 5% the speed of light. Who knows what the future brings but the laws of physics r what they r
@EdricLysharae4 жыл бұрын
@@haroldburrows4770, yeah 5% c with our existing understanding sounds right. What I like about scientists, though, is when they see something new or unexpected, they go, "Cool!" I really hope we haven't already written the last chapters in our understanding of space-time. Press on!
@AndiDuck4 жыл бұрын
Alien life is likely, but there is none that we can see. Therefore, it could be the case that somewhere along the trajectory of life's development, there is a massive and common challenge that ends alien life before it becomes intelligent enough and widespread enough for us to see- A Great Filter. Possibilities assume that the Great Filter is behind us-that humanity is a lucky species that overcame a hurdle almost all other life fails to pass. But What if the filter is ahead of us? It's a very deep rabbit hole
@wasimshaikh1665 Жыл бұрын
I would like to believe that we are the black sheep of the galaxy and everyone avoids us deliberately. Just like my relatives avoid visiting my house because of my wacky grandmother.