(EP. 6) Wrong About The Liners & Why I Won't Get A Par-Kan Easy Dump (Starting A Trash Business)

My wife and I started a trash pickup company when Waste Management left our county. These videos will serve as an in-depth playlist that covers the growth and operations of the business.
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Copper Creek Cuts is a lawn care and landscaping business in Florida with a goal to entertain and educate.
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[@SS_Lord_of_Meme]

Having realistic goals is a very smart thing when accomplishing anything, not just in growing your business. It looks like hard work and your dedication to accomplishing the goals is admirable.

[@Lobonova]

Realistic goals. Key word.

[@Sawyermclaren13]

Bro why are you bullying everyones comments

[@Lobonova]

@@Sawyermclaren13 sorry bro, i just said one thing to you and this dude.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the kind words and for watching/commenting!

[@tylerfernandez1413]

Have you thought about moving the cut out all the way to the front of the trailer, and then lifting the bed periodically to slide the trash to the back. Loading at the front would also let you use a drop hitch to lower the tongue, and get that rail as low as possible.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Kinda do this in the upcoming episodes, let me know your thoughts!

[@MrLangDog]

I watch every update. I freakin' love the toucans !! Makes me chuckle every time. Fingers crossed for more clients this week!!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you kindly! Will try to keep the toucans coming as well!

[@terrylutke]

As I see it the dump trailer is presently the correct 'tool' for you, and probably will be for the near/medium term future. The next hurdle with the trailer will be lack of cubic foot capacity. To that end I would be putting some thought into methods of load compaction. This might require a trailer 'roof' of some sort (solid or strong mesh), and a mechanical compacter chute feeding trash bags into the front trailer wall. The 'packer' mechanism can be a simple ram (think horizontal log splitter), a large slow moving screw or an aggressive paddle pusher (look up silage bagger). You will not need hard compressive compaction, but achieving 50% more cubic feet capacity seems very doable.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good tips! Playing around with tipping the trailer in EP 7 and focusing on slinging to the back more in EP 8. Both together will probably help moving foward.

[@MermaidSystem]

One thing that came to my mind, a movable Tipperarm, that rides on a rail along the side of your trailer. At least, it would solve the problem of the trash in one spot. But it would need a modification of the trailer. About the hydraulics, there are electris hydraulic pumps available with 100% duty cycle but an electrical pump does not need to run constantly. With an pressure accumulator and pressureswitch, its possible to have a low dutycycle and runs only when needed.

[@MrLangDog]

I made that exact suggestion a cpl videos ago. That would require quite a bit of custom engineering and fabrication. (Moveable arm on a rail)

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Not possible. The wheels/fenders/steps/spare tire bracket/wood board brackets, etc all block anything that would ride on rails.

[@GarrettWorcester]

Your first "rainy day hurricane" pickup run will be an exciting video. I'm not wishing you any bad luck, but it'll be a unique perspective! Also, kudos to the county for grooming the older section of the landfill to make it look like it was never a landfill; forward thinking for the win!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I've got the foul weather gear for it, I am certain it will happen any week now! :D

[@mugbee1]

Love how you are letting your community of followers come along for this ride and help you out with their ideas along the way. 💖

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You are too sweet!

[@joevez77]

Hey Brad. I hope this is a realistic idea. How about changing the sides so you have some type of sliding door so you can move where you put the trash in. Or a way so you can move some boards to have a different opening. I hope that makes sense

[@FishFind3000]

I recommended that before and it would solve the trash flying out the side. Even some hinges and a piece of plywood would help.

[@joevez77]

@@FishFind3000 hinges would be smart and fast. No sliding panels.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I don't think it is needed at this point. I believe I have solved the blowout issue and slinging the trash is putting it more towards the back. You can give your feedback over the next few episodes.

[@emungai]

I've watched all your garbage pickup videos, and I wanted to share some thoughts from an outsider's perspective. I typically set your videos in the background while working, like a podcast. I enjoy them and look forward to each week's video. Thank you! First off, I think the trash bags are a good temporary solution and are generally effective. And, I agree that you're not quite ready for recycling yet. This is the first time I've heard you mention a once-per-year fee. Honestly, I find that surprising. Most Americans struggle to cover a $1,000 emergency, so expecting them to pay a $400 fee upfront for a service might be unrealistic. I think switching to a monthly or quarterly pricing model could help you grow much faster. The $14K you spent on the cans is a lot of capital just sitting there. Every day those 170-ish cans aren't on the curb, you're losing money. With a monthly or quarterly fee, you could generate enough cash flow to afford a non-CDL garbage truck. These are easier to drive than a trailer, and I remember you mentioning your wife's hesitation about driving the truck and trailer. A smaller garbage truck would likely be more manageable for her, especially in areas with lots of stops. Please keep the videos coming!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

First of all, thank you so much for the thanks! I really appreciate it! (You helped cover a few liners! :P ) I think you are 100% right about the annual fee. Quarterly rate is the next advertising method, and then monthly rate. I think you may also be right about the nonCDL truck. Something I didn't think about until yesterday (and I am ashamed I haven't) is that if I do place all 200 cans, that is $150 in liners per week or $600 per month. That might be much better spent put towards a rear load that isn't my end goal but makes me much more efficient (and like you said, my wife COULD drive that, I don't think the truck and trailer is something she will be able to tackle). Thank you again for the generosity and the comment!

[@PennsylvaniaRefuseTrucks]

Rear loaders do not require two people. All the driver has to do is use the parking brake, get out, dump the can and then get back in the truck. Also I feel that you might not realize that garbage trucks can last up to one million miles and even over in some cases.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Fair enough and valid point. I should have said they are most efficient with two. I still have the conundrum of if I want to invest that much into a rearload when the side load is the end goal. I don't think I have enough data yet to make a decision.

[@phoenix-rising-86]

Naw. That's not practical for his routes, don't get me wrong I've done it when we had too and he'd only need a short single axle side loader for the 200 customers he's talking about. He'll have to bite the bullet and get a cdl, their might be a small business grant or something he's unaware of that might offset the cost. 🤷‍♂️

[@SHOE53]

Yep just like he doing now and a good use small garbage truck will out last that pick up, but he in some $$$ on his trailer also I can understand him not wanting to spend the money until the business grow a little more.

[@mattsFlordia]

I think I might have to agree with you I think a rear load might be better it would be more versatile than a side load

[@BrightsTrainsNTrucks2023]

Under CDL Garbage trucks do exist

[@mattsharkey311]

Hey Brad, have you considered a Texas pushoff trailer? If you were too, have a hole in the side like you do with your current dump trailer and cycle, the pushoff arm with the rear gate locked it would sweep the trash further back and so you can continue loading in one location, and it would be significantly the cheapest option that has been discussed. Great work!

[@Bmoney-gr3ee]

I agree, might be the best current option for you

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Have seen those, they are too neat!

[@SuzanneHustad]

Hi Brad, I have a good recommendation for a trash truck. When you get more clients: a leach mini rear, a Heil ph100, a new way viper and a new way diamondback. From Fenton.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tips!

[@trinketsandtrucksyt]

I have a good suggestion: the Heil Retriever. It is a small yet powerful refuse body that can be mounted with tipper arms. The chassis can vary depending on how you want it. They don't cost too much. Based on my love for the refuse industry, I think it might work.

[@Omaharefuseshorts]

Very true but they aren’t made anymore. And it’s very big.

[@trinketsandtrucksyt]

@@Omaharefuseshorts buying a used one would be better

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Keith.Zielinski]

Really enjoying this series! Suggestion, cut a rear access door, a cheap gate hinge with an easy to open latch that a carabinier can lock it closed, could alleviate the slinging and keep debris in a little better. If you're interested in more details let me know, have a wonderful day!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good tip! May not be needed now but will see about it later.

[@DumpsterMarcus]

enjoyed the video...i do junk removal and scrap metal and its great part time money...good to see how you are going to grow this and see what else you do

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks 👍

[@FishFind3000]

Could you try to add a telescoping cylinder and plate that is powered by the hydronic pump. That way it could push the trash back and compact some of it for more space and opening the window up for more trash?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yes, but I don't want to spend the time or money to figure that on my own or have someone do it, plus I don't trust the back gate could actually withstand any type of hydraulic forces.

[@funnyent]

Really enjoying the series. Thanks for sharing

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for watching!

[@zenontrainstrucks9433]

Awesome video! Keep it up! Ik you are not doing recycling, but would you do yard waste in the future since you have both a lawn care service and trash pick up and could start by just putting out small buckets in your truck bed and have little compost bins to pick up. Keep up the great work and videos!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Possible, but don't want to expand into anything until my cans get all placed.

[@zenontrainstrucks9433]

@@CopperCreekCuts Oh okay that is a smart idea since you should just focus on just trash for right now.

[@thekiller1090000]

i love this series

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks!

[@phoenix-rising-86]

You can hoard cardboard from customers, when you collect a trailers worth drive it down to the recycer directly and you'll get a return in the investment. You said you don't have the space/ time to run two routes and I know there's money here. ✌️

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Sounds doable, but not something I am interested in at this time. I believe a better return would be placing the 170 remaining trash cans and generate revenue that way.

[@cup_and_cone]

Why don't you have your tow mirrors extended out with that big trailer?

[@mikemiller756]

I thought same thing from his other videos... Maybe he doesn't know they extend?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I don't really need them out to safely perform our functions and there are quite a few sketchy stops where I am right next to a busy road and don't want another 4 inches of truck sticking out.

[@jimmyssnowremoval1075]

Should start a second channel just for the garbage disposal business. Could see it helping with advertising and company’s sponsors related to garbage disposal company.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Very true, but I covered this in a previous video. I don't have the time/energy/desire to start and grow a second channel.

[@jimmyssnowremoval1075]

@@CopperCreekCuts my apologies must if missed that.

[@Doggio_]

One thing that could work in terms of expansion is a Curbtender Pup, they come in trailer form in case you didn’t want to buy a whole new truck

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Will look into it!

[@stellarproductions8888]

One of the things that I love that you do, is you go over the comments. I think the best suggestion you ever got, is going to be the most expensive one. Once you have done trash pickup service for a long time, and you have built up the business enough to have made a hefty profit, it will be time to get a real garbage truck, which will sold your problems. Around here, trash pickup service is 100 dollars per month, but were paying on a bi-weekly schedule, of 50 dollars. I totally understand if trash pickup service is more expensive, especially for weekly pickup. It is clear to me that those can's are filling quickly in a week, so you may not be able to get people on a bi-weekly schedule.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the tip and for commenting!

[@ludus5781]

There are a few non-cdl automated side load truck models out there, like the New Way Wolverine.

[@Ethanguerin45]

If he got a fully automated truck he could be so efficient possibly even being able to do the whole county!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

The Wolverine priced out a big higher than I liked. Something like that is the end goal though!

[@EtwasMartin]

The toucans are back! And I am, as so many times before, amazed by the way you point out your own mistakes. I wish more creators would do that. As for questions: I don't mind you talking about anything really. But maybe things like profit margin per can/pickup, route planning and route density, marketing and branding could be interesting :)

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the suggestions! Always trying to put in toucans when I can for you! :D

[@FormerWMDriver]

I really like that you have well thought out, realistic goals. Don't feel bad about NOT picking up recycling - many places in Florida are limiting or stopping recycling all together - Polk County in central Florida for example, will no longer offer recycling when the contract changes later this year. Building on your comment about the rear loader in the video (and another comment you listed somewhere in the comments section)... while rear loaders are most efficient with two people, when you compare your current setup to a "one-man" rear load setup, it could be quite effective with you being the driver and loading at every stop with a smaller under CDL truck. A rear loader is a good "do everything" type truck. Think of the uses - a spare to the front line truck, clean-ups/junk removal, maybe assist the lawn business (internally billing B2B for removal of excessive brush), special events, and so on. Don't get me wrong, this is definitely an "in the future" move, but when it when it comes to growing your business, I'm fairly sure you'll be happy with investment in a rear load truck. That and rear loaders under CDL are much easier to find when compared to finding an under CDL side loader. If the goal is to eventually get automated side loaders, I would still get a rear loader first so it can eventually be a spare (in the future) to the side load. Rear loaders are fairly simple vehicles and have a relatively long life cycle when compared to other garbage trucks - remember manual labor is doing most of the work so the packer body only operates when you cycle the blade or use the cart tipper. When you get a side loader - especially an automated side loader, the dynamic will shift - the truck will be doing most of the work and because of that - automated side loaders (generally speaking) have the shortest life-cycle of any type of garbage truck. With the truck doing all the work, the arm and packer/floor wear out much faster on the automated side loaders and your maintenance costs will grow notably when compared to a rear loader. Hope that helps. Keep up the great work - I'm rooting for you!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the time you spent on this comment. Your thoughts on a rear loader are very fair and I can't find any flaw in them. An Isuzu with a rear loader is also something my wife could drive. I don't think she will be able to get comfortable enough with the truck trailer, so with that I could really unlock the efficiency of the rear load. Another thing I am ashamed I never thought of until yesterday was if I do get all 200 cans out I could be spending $150 a week or $600/mo on liners. Probably would make more sense to put that money towards the payment on a cheaper (compared to side load) rear load. While it isn't the end goal, I am learning it may be the best path foward. AND if I determine 'hey, actually this rear load isn't too bad and running as a two man crew is fine', then I can make that the plan moving forward. Good points on the side loader. Thank you again!

[@davida5907]

Love the idea ! I don’t know why everyone thinks it’s a bad idea. I think you could possibly add like a slide pusher or some sort plate inside the trailer . I could help move the trash to one end of the trailer

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Could be, thank you for the tip!

[@justinschuster4993]

I suggest you find a contraption like that easy dump that is hydraulic. Mount it on the back of your dump trailer on 1 side of the opening to the back so you can still swing it open. I’m sure someone can build something similar to the one in the video for pretty cheap.

[@TheCuriousBat]

You’re not compacting the trash that why it’s a lot to you on your trailer… I drive for trash company for 7 years… the 6 yards is small those trucks are to pick up some and then meet the front loader to off load it and then go back and grab more trash…

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Correct!

[@Joshuagiddeon]

You should make sure the liners don’t cover the logo on the trash bin so that way people driving by can see them. You should also try making posts about your company on local Facebook groups, next door, and ring neighbors for advertising.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good tips, thank you!

[@TruckinDavo]

The Par Kan is.. pretty sweet set up but yeah definitely to small for your operation. 3+ trips to the dump. Be a good setup for small neighborhoods & Trailer parks and or clients with 2+ bins.

[@darrenford5357]

Hope you see this; When running the numbers, can you use red or green to reflect the positive or negative impacts from the past week? Ie. Revenue was 150$ (+26$) in green? This would be nice to see overtime as the company grows. The one pitfall is the reflection of business progress to competitors, but if I were a competitor I’d probably just watch each video and do the math myself, which achieves the same result. As a viewer, it helps us week to week understand the progression of your work and see how you plan/account as it grows. As always, great stuff. Keep working hard. Hard work pays in reward as reward is earned from hard work.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You bet! I did that in some of the earlier ones but forgot in more recent ones.

[@AHomelessDorito]

I would say it’s better to save for the truck you want. There’s always going. To be a used garbage truck market the perfect one will be found eventually. Loving this series and the learning process!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the comment!

[@Ethanguerin45]

Brad ask customers that pay for recycling to put recycling in a blue tinted bag or purchase some recycling decals and put them on you’re extra existing orange cans. Simply tell people to put the blue bag full of recyclables on the top inside of the can or next to the can then when you load the trash throw the lite bag containing recycling towards the back of the trailer. When you dump it whould be easy to just pull them out. Or invest in doing one more day just for recycling either using blue or clear bags or using one of your containers that you add a recycling decal to. None of your competitors offer recycling this means you can jump on it and make more money think about it. Offering recycling might just be one of the best things you did for baker county trash. Good luck!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tips!

[@mattsharkey311]

Hey Brad, what are your thoughts on Pro pactor trash, compactor dump trailers? It might be a good next step if you could find something used, you would not be in the same price ballpark as an F600 dump truck and you could still pull it with your Chevy. Great work!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

$45K price tag new is not going to work and 16K GVWR means I need a CDL.

[@mattsharkey311]

@@CopperCreekCuts well technically you could make a 16,000 GWR trailer work just depending on your pick up truck and remain under 26,000 combined although your Chevy 2500 would be just out of that. The real problem is is in the state of Florida any over 10,000 GVWR requires a class a CDL so even the trailer are pulling right now technically requires one

[@famousamoso7]

Been watching all the updates and loving the content. Just wanted to point out a change in "attitude" this week. In previous weeks you "appeared" very much against suggestions and shot down many without any real consideration. This week you are more receptive of them and have much more professional responses to some of the ones that are repeats and or that youve tried and didnt work. It is nice to see a more positive/professional outlook from your responses. Others seeing that will allow them to freely ask/converse without worry of being immediately shot down. So thank you :)

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the kind words. Curious if you feel the same about today's video (ep 7), please provide feedback on that video if you are willing/able!

[@famousamoso7]

@@CopperCreekCuts watching it now.

[@famousamoso7]

@@CopperCreekCuts watched the video and yes you’re doing very well to answer questions professionally and respectfully no matter if it was a question you addressed in prior videos or far fetched suggestion. Keep up the work.

[@nickfiebrich4564]

Make doors for the sides so when one spot fills up you can open a rear door and drop trash in a cleaner area. You could close the doors for the drive to the dump

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tip!

[@BKnight7z]

Are you spraying out your trailer when you get home? Just curious

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I am pressure washing most of the exterior, but not the inside. I let the sun dry everything out and if there are oils that still remain I get a mop and simple green and spot clean those.

[@Cam_mak]

Hey man, I’ve heard lots of concern for the pushing of trash back into the trailer. Your right, pushing would be very difficult, but then it dawned on me that you could try to lift the bed of the trailer so the trash would all move to the back. Is that something you would want to try sometime?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yes! I test it in next week's video (ep 7)

[@BryanSearles]

Hey Brad. You already spent a good chunk of change on that tipper arm. Why not add larger/ heavier struts to actually lift the heavy cans and save your back. Harbor freight has a 3 ton strut for $60

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Covered why in EP 4

[@Reverseflash-ge7jp]

You should make the cutout in the front and also install the garbage can picker upper thing there and when there is too many bags in your way just put the dump trailer up a little and it will fall to the back

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Covered in episode 4. Won't work.

[@GoProJack16]

Is there any way to spread out the “upfront” cost of $400 over the first 12 months of service? Thinking that it would be much less cost prohibitive for new clients if payments were spread for switching over 12 months

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You are 100% right. I believe I have mined out all the annual pay customers. My next batches of advertising will focus on Quarterly pricing, and then a few months after that I will go down to the monthly pricing.

[@PruningPros]

make a two steph platform on the side of the trailer so you can lift the bags into the trailer easier

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tip!

[@JohnCarter-eq9ej]

Im not saying I would know how do this or if it would work. Could you make the wood rail Hinge down so you could have access to the whole side of the trailer or mount the can tiper on a rails so it could slide the trailer Just a thought Rooting for your success

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Could be but not sure if needed right now.

[@noahdziadyk3412]

not sure if you will even see this comment, but have you considered putting your whole side board on a hinge? that way you can fold down the side and spread the trash around better and not loose capacity

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Possible but not sure it is needed. Let me know after EP 7 and 8.

[@RedOliveIndustries]

You could potentially have the cutouts on the side be modular. This would let you move the opening from front to back and let you throw the trash to fill the whole dump trailer. This would help with having to sling as many bags to fill up the empty space.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Will keep that in mind for the future!

[@natewasylik1576]

I would love to hear more about your marketing in future videos.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Probably once I hit 50 so I have a nice even number to talk about.

[@michaelsnell4034]

Put a couple Nylox nuts on those threads of the studs from the tipper. A bit blunter if a thing in case you ever stumble near the trailer. A cheap, easy thing.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good tip! I got bolt covers from amazon but none fit and never did anything else. Nylocks will help for sure!

[@keltonfoster901]

I’m not sure the dedicated time you want to spend on this project, but until more cans are placed, have you thought about doing yard debris pickup? This may have already been covered, but I don’t recall hearing of it. It feels like you could bring in a larger chunk of money doing 2-3 large debris pickups every Sunday. I want to clarify, when I say yard debris, I mean debris that has been placed next to the road, ready to be loaded.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Maybe down the road, for now I just want to focus on the cans like you said.

[@GoProJack16]

Have you thought about doing doors for the gaps in the sides? Ones that open and clip into the wood on the side but close on the way to the dump?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I don't think I need them at this point as I believe I've figured out how to eliminate the blowout.

[@zachbloom144]

Have you given any thought to something like a Pro-Tainer Propactor trailer? Seems like a decent solution at face value.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yes but its $$$ $45K and 16K GVWR which puts me in CDL territory.

[@afvalboy]

in the future, a side loader is what you need

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Hoping we can get there one day!

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

This is how young men become old broken men!!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Here's hoping a few years of hard work will pay off in the long run!

[@x401]

Maybe a tipper mounted on rails so you can move it along the entire length of the trailer. Move it where room is left in the trailer. And the tipper should go over the wooden sideboards and thus dumps the trash from higher up for better spread in the trailer. To max this idea to the fullest have this setup on both sides of the trailer. I know this is most likely to expensive and would need custom manufacturing but I wanted to trow it out there. On another note, tipping the trailer to free up space in the front is maybe a bad idea. Shifting the weight to the back could unbalance the trailer truck combination. Driving with low or negative tongue weight is really dangerous! I am looking forward to see how you develop your business. Keep up the good work! Wishing you all the best!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

The tipper can move. Fenders and wheels prevent it from being mounted anywhere except where it was. Tipping the trailer back would only be done in the middle of routes where more trash could be placed up front.

[@illinoisgarbagetrucks]

Great video have you thought about a curotto can garbage truck when you do buy a truck

[@CopperCreekCuts]

No, I don't have a CDL.

[@mr.farmerboy9245]

Are you going to use the dump trailer for specific jobs in the lawn car business? In the past you talked about not wanting to rent one to make bigger jobs in stormwater management easier. Since you own one now, nothing really argues against using it for your other business as well.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Absolutely! If there is a lawn care job I need it I will have it to use.

[@Travokk]

To move the cover out of the way, why not try and add a fishing line weight to each of the eyelets. That way when you cover the trash, the front and back are weighted by the poles and the sides are weighted by the fishing weights.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I am just leaving the tarp installed for now.

[@JamesCameron1]

You could convert your trailer to a gas powered system using a small gas engine with a hydraulic pump and then you could have a hydraulic arm (custom built or off the shelf). Then just use the dump to slide the trash to the back so you wouldn't have to add a sweeper arm. Something to think about down the road I guess.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Way too much time, effort, and money for my tastes, but yes, it is an option.

[@jmgobeli]

Due to weight distribution and trailer stability, you must keep the most weight near the front of the trailer otherwise if the majority of the weight is near the back of the trailer you will cause the trailer to fishtail and become uncontrollable. I suggest reversing the boards on the trailer where the opening is near the back. That way you push the trash near the front of the trailer to keep the trailer stable.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good point! I am still only around 1000 pounds of trash so I don't think a 4.5K pound trailer will lose control over a few hundred pounds of rearward weight, but good to keep in mind.

[@jmgobeli]

@@CopperCreekCuts I can see that the trash and trailer weights are not a high stability problem now, but as you said, it is good to keep that in mind. I have seen too many KZbin videos about trailers becoming uncontrollable and crashing due to weight imbalance.

[@phoenix-rising-86]

I'll toss the top few bags into the corners of the hopper before tipping a heavy can into the truck and its a similar technique to throwing them into the trailer corners. 😅

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good tip, thank you!

[@UNTEMPTFULL]

Love the series!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you!

[@razzy5252]

already reusing trash bags, your making WM look good

[@CopperCreekCuts]

LOL if the client bags everything and the liner is clean, absolutely!

[@JarrodGarbo]

hey i have a idea and see if it would work or not try to use the tipper arm again but only use it if needed like if something is heavy or these no liners in the bins you can still dump it

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Covered why that won't work in EP 4

[@johnmays2798]

I would move the holes in the sides of the trailer towards the tongue. Then as you fill that area up all you have to do is lift the dump box and all the trash will slide towards the rear. This will open the front back uo to add more trash.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Too_Tall_Tom]

You should look into a brush truck. Here in polk many of the private compan6s use brush trucks for trash

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Not sure what that is, searching brush truck just brought up offroad fire trucks. Do you mean a grapple truck? That wouldn't work at all for bins.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

So 80 grand for 200 can pick up weekly for the year, huh? And 20 cans filling the trailer, is 10 dumps a day at no compaction?.... Hmmm. Seems you so still need a couple upgrades and likely a mechanism on both sides of the trailer, like a library ladder, that slides back and forth, and then can help tip a can in. And.... Some sort of compacter because man, 10 loads a day is rough. Good on you dude. You are progressing and have the right view for sure.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

We just did around 30 cans yesterday. Getting better at slinging the trash in the back means more even spreading. I have room for another 10-20 cans. Will also start tipping the trailer mid route to 'compact' and move as much trash from the front as possible to make more space. Hoping to be able to fit 50 cans in a trailer. Each dump run is an hour so most likely scenario will be 100 cans per day over two days (unless I just want an absolutely brutal 12 hour day or something. Start picking the first load in the dark and show up to the landfill at 7 when they open, get last load in at 3 when they close type deal. Still don't have enough data to know what is possible yet.

[@ramblingman8992]

Looks like the easy dump with sweeper actually compacts the waste, so a 6 yard capacity will, in reality, hold 18 yards. Depending on the strength of the latches on your trailer's tailgate, you might be able to add an internal hydrualic ram with a metal plate to squash the waste against the tailgate. This would increase trailer capacity to maybe 4x what it actually is. This could be worth doing a collab with a KZbinr who does such things. As for marketing, how about a reduced rate for those using their own cans?.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

It doesn't compact the waste. Their marketing makes that clear. I don't want to be responsible for damages to other's cans, so I only use my own.

[@juser0064]

The fact that you mentioned recycling reminds me of a question I ask myself about these videos. Is there only one type of garbage where you live? As a German, it really surprises me to see residual waste, dripping waste, drinks containers and Amazon boxes in the same bag. Is everything just taken to the landfill unsorted? What happens to it afterwards? Thank you.

[@milot1655]

Americans. Absolutely crazy to the. European mind

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yes, all gets dumped in the same place. I have no knowledge of where the local recycling options are or where they go after that.

[@railsandsignals9261]

Love this series! Why aren’t you interested in a CDL? Just curious.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

The time/expense needed to obtain it.

[@JeffreyJuanitaTaylor]

I think a great subject to talk about is: tell us the story about how you decided to do garbage? I know that one company moved out, but what made you aware of it? Also, tell us your process of setting up the business - how did you work out the cost, how long it would take you to get back to 0 and into a postive cash flow, maybe tips on starting up some kind of business for those that want to but just don't know the basics of how tos tart a busines.s

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Covered that in an early video on this playlist!

[@DeloLiveNews]

Enjoyed the video! Do the competitors offer recycling?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Not that I know of

[@agmiddles]

Would you consider building your own side dumper? I have a set of off the shelf parts in mind that might make that possible to do rather inexpensively and you could mount/weld it to the side of your trailer. You could do it with a compressed air piston basically. The electronics would probably pretty simply to make happen. Message me if you're interested.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the offer but I'm not looking to get that involved in the dump trailer. I'd rather put the time/effort into a truck.

[@richhubert1260]

are your stops next to each one? could you open rear door and lock 1 open 1 closed and then load it from the back? stack bags to front of trailer? enjoy the content.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I don't have that efficiency yet but keeping the doors open would make me too wide.

[@richhubert1260]

@@CopperCreekCuts ahh wasn't sure how far they stayed open. All the best

[@jermainewyatt1995]

Great video thanks for sharing

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you!

[@jermainewyatt1995]

@@CopperCreekCuts ur welcome

[@superfleet1954]

Hey I was wondering if you had considered commercial trash pickup? I’m not sure how shops work in your area, but maybe there would be a lot of trash to pick up from shops that you could charge for. Been loving the vids and have a good day!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

No, I am only focusing on residential.

[@anthonykilmer7668]

You can always build The walls Up more Or You Can maybe move the cut out. Part two to the front of the trailer and then Tillt the trailer back That way, you have more room.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Good tips, thank you!

[@NoahH_Railfan]

How about a Pro-Pactor Compactor Trailer. They hold 15 yards ( I don't know how that compares to your trailer), a compactor, and a dumper arm. The only thing I don't know about it is the price.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

$45K new and the other issue is the 16K GVWR means I need a CDL.

[@NoahH_Railfan]

@@CopperCreekCuts more expensive than I thought. That CDL thing seems hard to get around sometimes

[@bobbierthornton4498]

Could you get a table at a local fair or job fair or farmers market and advertise that way? Or get mini trash cans that are key chains or USB ports with your business information on it. Or go to people’s houses when they put out their trash cans that aren’t yours and ask them what they are missing from their current service. What if (since you have a trailer) you offered to drive up their driveway so they would not have to put the can at the side of the road? It would take a little longer but I bet you could get a lot more customers! You could say “Are you tired of having to bring your cans to the front curb? With my service, all you have to do is bring your garbage out of the house, I’ll do the rest!”

[@CopperCreekCuts]

The issue with advertising is I have VERY specific neighborhoods I want to get cans in. Broad marketing can lead to frustration if I have to tell a lot of folks 'I don't service your area'. I also don't want to start any practices (like bringing cans to the house) that I don't want to do long term.

[@gunther34567]

Could you add a sliding door to the wood sidings? That way you can keep filling your trailer in one spot and when that spot is full slide the door over and fill it there, might solve the problem with the heavy bags you can't throw to the back/front

[@ChalleKing]

And it would take away the risk of trash flying out if you could close the hole

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I could! I think I've solved blowout, you can let me know over the next two episodes.

[@jaseb3816]

Have you looked into leasing a garbage truck when you get to the 150-200 bin count and can afford that payment? I’m not exactly sure how that all works, or if you can with a garbage truck, but I feel it would allow you to get a truck faster than buying one either out right or putting 6 figures down.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

The time I looked at leasing/renting a garbage truck it was more than the monthly payment on owning.

[@colindavidson4832]

Have you thought about using a rewards system for fuel? Or an app like Upside? You may be able to cash in on a few extra bucks

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I use a CC with 4% back.

[@Valmtg]

What's going to be the plan if there's a natural disaster and the trash is increased or some cans are lost/damaged or roads are impossible to drive in? What about congestion at the dump site due to holidays? Also, what about the holiday season when the volume and/or weight increases for the trash? Would it be like a one time thing or will the customers just need to set aside and fill up until they're back to normal levels if they don't want regular two cans 🦜🦜?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I'll pick up unless it's physically unsafe for me to do so.

[@RiverlandJunkRemoval]

Great video again

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@luizfernandoasequeira8799]

why don't you look at state vehichel auctions. They have a lot of vehichel types and well maintained ones!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tip!

[@cameronhuckaby5098]

Actually a 8 yard trash compactor holds more than a 14 yard dump trailer. The compactor really compacts things down well. Trust me lol I use a dump trailer as well.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I never argued that. The easy dump isn't a compactor. The sweeper is just a sweeper and they make it very clear it is NOT a compactor in their marketing materials.

[@MiquIshere]

Check out Pro-Tainers Pro-pactor compactor trailer could be middle ground solution to save your body and wallet. There were some used ones sold for 20-30k .

[@CopperCreekCuts]

16K GVWR means I need a CDL.

[@dripzyy6510]

if you go to an old company getting newer bin trucks buy one then it would take the liner with not needing it and just faster in all

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Maybe! I don't really want to mess with a used truck though. We will see.

[@TheAwesomeSam]

are you a two-person crew (you and your wife), or do you have other people working for you for all your other businesses?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

No employees. My wife comes with me on trash runs.

[@Jaredorr27]

Can you describe in a video how you chose the size of garbage cans you chose.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I got the same size people were used to from Waste Management and so I could say our cans are the biggest. That is all.

[@Zraupp10]

What size dump trailer would you think would be MAX for moveability? 20' long ? what weight limit would you be looking at needing ? I was thinking of designing a dump trailer designed for trash to fix this problem

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I apologize, I don't know enough to answer those questions, but I do know the 14' already puts us in some tight spots.

[@bostonrailfanner471]

What about getting a gas powered truck with a compactor body?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Maybe!

[@fischerautoprops8931]

I was thinking that maybe you could haul two trailers at the same time, but your first trailer is a tow ball system and not a fifth wheel or gooseneck hookup that would be required. Also, you have tight turns and moving two trailers would be difficult. Using a lift system off a garbage truck would be useless. Using a lift system requires hydraulics. Buying a larger trailer would mean more costs. Buying a small garbage truck from Canada would be okay because of the u.s. dollar. But I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. It might be if you're going to be doing this for awhile. I'm not sure of what your long term business goals are. Getting more customers and trying to use your current trailer means more trips to the dump and more costs, so that's out. Unless the dump is close by to your pickups. That par can system is more for garbage pickup companies that missed one pickup or four and they would send a small truck using that system to pick them up. Or a university or school division. Maybe try crowdfunding to raise money for either a downpayment or possibly the entire cost of a garbage truck.

[@fischerautoprops8931]

I've been looking on a few websites for garbage trucks. I found a 2010 international 7400 garbage truck with 106,058 miles for $26,806 usd. Nice shape. 9.3 liter diesel. With the weight of 200 full garbage cans that you could pick up, it's only going to get heavier. A diesel truck hauls weight much easier than a gas engine. Maybe shopping for a garbage truck in Canada is an option. Hope this helps.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I don't think tandem trailers are allowed in Florida.

[@VanishDumpsterRental]

No dump fee?! Thats amazing! Love this series! Fuck competing on price! Compete on value, being the cheapest always boggles my mind. Why devalue your service?

[@Losomar]

You start cheap to gain market share. Once he gets a majority of the market he can begin raising prices

[@VanishDumpsterRental]

@@Losomar that’s the shittiest way to run a business in my opinion. most people hate that and will get pissed with the constant price raises yearly and just choose a cheaper option and drop you anyway lol. Any biz with $$$ can enter your market and bleed you out. Why not just price your services correctly to run a growing profitable business? Like I said competing on value over price makes way more sense to me.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

What value is there in trash pickup beyond the trash getting picked up when you put it out? Do you really care if the trash guy has a clean uniform or matching colors?

[@VanishDumpsterRental]

@@CopperCreekCuts I’m talking about the value your adding to your clients life. if you can differentiate yourself from the competition and add value customers generally will not be bothered by a higher price. Do you really want cheap clients that would drop you over a $10 difference anyway? If you yourself don’t see your value then that’s the issue right there. Clean uniforms and matching trucks and all that is more branding then anything, I think that does help but not the most important.

[@cissa95]

Interesting that recycling is not popular. Here in Norway you have to pay extra for a bigger bin for waste. And in my municipality you have paper, waste, foodscraps, and glass/metal at the door. So most people recycle since it is cheaper

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the insights! Always neat to hear how it's done elsewhere.

[@southaussiegarbo2054]

Note they are 6yard compacted load not uncompacted... Compacted is roughly half that of uncompacted.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

There is no compactor on the easy dump. The sweeper is very clearly stated NOT to be a compactor.

[@TheLootownpunx]

I think as you get more cans out if there was a way you could ride outside the cab somehow while she drives😅

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, maybe!

[@MIKE-p9i]

F750 gasoline 6speed will do u great you can put a tag axle on it if you need it would be under cdl

[@MIKE-p9i]

U hual and company's sell there old box trucks cheap gassers

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for the tip!

[@mugbee1]

Thanks!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

NOW I CAN RETIRE!!!! :P

[@TipsySniperYT]

Love these videos. But surely you can get better bags? I looked around near my area and I found a pack of 20 for $2.78

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Of 95 gallon liners? I doubt that but am happy to be proven wrong.

[@TipsySniperYT]

@@CopperCreekCuts 240 litres. Not sure how many gallons that is