Cops Breakdown LA Fires With Firefighter (NOT Shown In Media)

Kyle and Mark sit down with Firefighter, Derek Sweet, and discuss the horrific LA fires. The three share behind the scene knowledge the media does not talk about.
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[@shotsfiredpodcast50]

Would you stay and defend your home? Let us know your thoughts on all of this in the comments.

[@modernserf2020]

I guess it depends on the situation.

[@pedroscigar2906]

@@shotsfiredpodcast50 Hard decision. I feel like many homes are saved by owners staying and managing embers. However, I understand civilians are not educated on fire behavior and I don’t know if they know when too much is too much. I heard a retired FF comment that when he saved his home in Malibu there was a point he had to go inside and wait for a certain part of the fire to pass over. Then he went and put out what was burning. I wouldn’t have the of that. I know it wouldn’t happen b/c they don’t want to encourage it but information on how to defend your home would probably be a good thing.

[@numbthumbs9220]

i stayed and defended my home and my neighborhood (about 15 homes burned in my area) had a bunch of spot fires started by embers had a bunch of plants catch fire if i didnt stay and put them out i would of lost my home. put out at least 10 spot fires. some hoses in my area did run dry. i had to sneak back up into my area just to put them out. had to climb up a side of a hill just to get into my area. i left once i saw active firefighters in my area patrolling.

[@PowderMill]

@@shotsfiredpodcast50 I owe Los Angeles a great debt. My parents were lefties back before the Blow-J Simpson Memorial Tribute *RIOTS* back in the 1990’s. They had gone through the Newark, NJ “peaceful protests” (aka *RACE* *RIOTS*) in the 1960’s and saw their parents lose all they had in this world. Their small shops, their homes, the entire city became virtually uninhabitable when I was just a small kid. My folks respected the “Rooftop Koreans” and became 2A first time buyers. Great video, thanks!

[@jeanie8831]

​@@pedroscigar2906There should be requirements in that area.

[@brc113]

A lot of respect for those firefighters who jumped into action down in LA. Almost no resources given to them. I saw a video of firefighters filling a purse with hose water at someone’s house in LA.

[@ralphpetry1745]

That maybe what it looked like at first glance, but they are, in fact, collapsible buckets and you will find them on every firetruck and come in handy for spot fires, flying embers etc where you don't want to pull hoses from the main fire.

[@kennethpadgettflightparame3548]

Thank you! As a former firefighter & chief officer I have been banging my head trying to explain this to people who just want to think it’s only politics. There is NO Fire Department in the U.S. or world that could’ve stopped that fire the night it started. I was listening to the radio that night. The IC called for 20 engine strike teams at the start of the incident. That’s 100 engine companies. It was a perfect storm of weather conditions.

[@nighthawksim6675]

i will rebuttal with the fact that i have heard people say that the mayor of la knew of high winds coming and that resources should have been pre staged. i also heard of when the next shift was goanna take over they sent home the current shift cause they didn't want to pay for over time. mother nature will do mother nature but also at the same time there are things that could have and should have been done better. why cut a fire departments budget in the nations state that usually burns the most every year? and i heard that the mayor was goanna cut another 40 million dollars. all in all common sense says if you have no water to fight the fire you cant really stop fire. and since Cali doesn't like to manage there forests well enough said. and i am not saying that they could have stopped the fire. but they could have maybe not had as much damage done to as much property. if a family can prevent there own home from burning down using there pool water and a pump with sprinkler the LA fire department should have been able to do better.

[@TheImmoralities]

@@nighthawksim6675 there were strike teams prepo'd as there always are during santa ana wind events. the issue with the water is if you have god knows how many engines using hydrants you lose pressure.

[@nighthawksim6675]

@TheImmoralities all I know is that in my mind there are allot of people who are suffering that could have been allot less. And having people like Mel Gibson and Denise Quaid calling out leadership in L.A. and the Governor. Ya not good. I don't know much about hydrants but if you have no water to fight fire that's not good. Plus part of the budget cuts meant that they couldn't adequately check the hydrants and test them like they should have. It was all a perfect storm. And people have suffered because of allot of mismanagement and woke mindsets.

[@nighthawksim6675]

@TheImmoralities if there were resources pre positioned how come it took 45 mintues for any kind of fire personal to go to the palisades fire. And it was a helicopter not a fire truck.

[@TheImmoralities]

@@nighthawksim6675 listened to the scanner because i didn't believe this. sounds units were on another large off of sunset as the palisade started. units were dispatched at 10:32ish. light force 69 called for additional air resources and 10 additional engines 2 minutes after before they were on scene. that was changed to 20 engines. at 10:42 e29 was coming up palisade drive. they were on scene at 1050 but probably for a bit before that. was hard to hear and i couldnt care enough to listen through more archives.

[@NYyankeeboi]

Yet somehow an 80+ y/o couple saved their home with a garden hose. Many other homeowners saved their home using a pool pump and a garden hose. Also private fire fighters saved an entire shopping complex. All of them had water, something the fire fighters did not. Not having water in that reservoir is borderline criminal negligence.

[@kennethpadgettflightparame3548]

@@NYyankeeboi they had water tankers. Also they are private firefighters and paid to fight one specific area. The LACFD & LAFD had to fight an entire geological area. There is no perfect firefight. Mistakes are made all the time. But there’s no FD in this country that could’ve fought that fire and held it on the first night. No matter what political parties trying to score cheap points are saying.

[@brucemorrison8357]

@@kennethpadgettflightparame3548 Amen to that!

[@davidmc8475]

The government and many homeowners were not prepared. One gentleman a Veteran prepared by spraying down the sides of his house with fire retardant and having sprinklers on the roof of his house. He did evacuate when he came back he said you could see a demarkation line of how close the fire was to his house and where the sprinklers did their job.

[@michaelklarman5710]

As a retired New England firefighter I have no training or experience in wind driven wildfires. The firefighter, Derek, that appeared here was clearly very well trained and knew his business extremely well. The only thing I could relate to was the water supply issues. Thanks for the education and I pray for my West Coast brothers and sisters as well as the police officers, National Guard and all the others fighting this inferno. Please, be careful and stay safe.

[@Brian-rj5rl]

Many residents stay and fight spot fires before FD arrives and even after firefighters determine they can't stay and fight. I wish the city/state would train and allow volunteers.

[@JerryHughes-u2f]

Thanks Derek for the informed explanation about mutual aide response Flex Time. Unfortunately it’s the response flex time that sinks the ship in the WUI scenario in LA. Retired brother Chicago FD.

[@cantorsteve]

I live on Manhattan Island. It has been illegal to build with combustible materials here since the Great Fire of 1835. Since the Blizzard of '88 (1888!) when they all came crashing down, all utilities have been underground. What is your problem out there???

[@jeanie8831]

Hell yeah. I'm an 80 yr. old woman. If I had had a home there at the first report of any fire, near me or not, I would have started spraying. And since that area is known for fires, I would have already prepared my home way before that. I would have prob. lived in that home for 30-40 yrs. as I do now, so not going down without a fight.

[@AprilGay]

Smart Meters... You'll notice older houses didn't burn down. Smart meters take lithium batteries, when overheated they go from 0 to 6,000° F in less than 10 seconds...then 💥

[@brucemorrison8357]

As a retired water engineer (and former volunteer firefighter), I'll give your fireman an A+ for his discussion about how you don't have an infinite supply of water in such an exceptional emergency. Too bad so few pundits, politicians, and numerous internet "experts" don't realize that.

[@larchman4327]

I'm not an expert. But when I installed a fuel oil furnace in the house there is a thermal valve that will automatically close if valve reaches a certain temperature. That sounds like something that can be used on residential water lines to limit water pressure loss. I have seen videos in the palisades of water coming out of the pipes house after destroyed house.

[@PrincessPanamaFelange]

This gentleman had the knowledge so many of us wanted. It's a damn shame he wasn't given the time to share it . 😶.

[@andrewweldy7508]

The problem is that not everyone is physically able to evacuate a fire. My town experienced a couple of wildfires and the worst one by far had elderly people who lived alone and did not have any means to escape and some of them somehow survived but there were others who were not so lucky. That incident was the 2007 Rice Canyon Fire. My town is Fallbrook.

[@ruthsimmons8620]

We appreciate all your help. My kids went to Pali High and to church there. All our friends are in shock. They just have the clothes on their back. The other thing we have been going through is the amount of arsonists who are all over the city. I mean the citizen app always have flames every night but with the winds we can't be safe.

[@SherryCGR]

Thank you for sharing fact from people who know what they're talking about.

[@DesignRhythm]

Sure helps to have a 117 million gallon reservoir full. No water pressure.

[@rp1645]

Thank you ( shots Fired) for having wonderful guest professional FF 😊 to talk about this very High WINDS wildland/ urban terrible property losses. I did NOT know the ( High/Low Tone ) on siren was for getting public attention to property owners.

[@TheImmoralities]

yeah CHP has attempted to make it known but its not known enough. san diego county sherriff has a good campaign of "High/Low - time to go" as far as I'm aware it's only legal to use it for evacuation notices in CA.

[@skc-wg2yq]

Great analysis!

[@cyulikeme2]

Great breakdown of information. Sharing with family to help them understand.

[@AprilGay]

Thank you Gentlemen.. ❤

[@dwightsornberger8916]

I'm sure there are a few firefighters who loot. Anyone who covers that up is as bad as the looter IMO

[@teenieteenez]

As a Nor Cal girl, this is super interesting info that I didn't know. Thanks for the episode.

[@bryanfrombuffalo7685]

No problem 😂

[@GrdDog]

I live in FL (but it is the same process) and I was taught at a young age to have a "go bag" with the important stuff in it in case of an emergency like a Hurricane or fire; my father was in the Army so I got to learn the 7 P's and that never left my mind "prevention, proportion, preparation, portability, proximity, protection, and projection", something that appears not to have been taught to many people. I was also taught to write out a check list with the important stuff on it and check each off as it went into the bag, this makes exfil much, much easier.

[@IanSDaniels]

Firefighters are paid to sleep? They are paid to wake up! Why anyone would say different is beyond me.

[@CPR12345]

Can you stay awake for 24 hours straight? 🤡

[@drgLACity]

911 call came in at 10:30am, the first arriving five man engine/ladder company was 10:46am all by themselves, with NO pre-deployed strike teams near by. The fire grew from 10 acres to 200 acres in under 40 minutes …

[@bryanfrombuffalo7685]

Thats why ppl dont leave...cuz they cant get back in...not saying its smart .but ppl are attached to ish u cant take w you when u burn

[@Charlie-lq4bq]

Derek is awesome, love you + your family❤️

[@meyer7312]

except there was no pre-planning

[@happyrick8730]

Thank you for your service

[@cindylopez5599]

😢 Many people have lost their jobs. The landscapers and the pool people. You're maids, Your dog walkers. So many people pray for all of them because They are not rich and Don't have another home to go to. I still feel for the people that are rich Or are famous It's their home their Safe place. And holds many memories for them with family.

[@mattschultzy671]

Whew! Listen to him just rattling off those ICS buzzwords!

[@JerryHughes-u2f]

LAFD needs to learn how to use their Class A foam to fight fires and protect exposure buildings. The Engineers need to take a pump operator class on wetting agent foam use and applications so Firefighters can stop these fires with tank water (500 gallons of water mixed with 1% foam concentrate (PFAS free). Did you know that an onboard air compressor can expand foam 20:1 making a shaving cream like consistency? It’s called CAFs (Compressed Air Foam system) and it turns 500 gallons of water into 10,000 gallons of compressed air foam. Each gallon of compressed air foam is 10 x more effective at extinguishing fires as compared to plain, untreated water. So basically that’s equal to 1 million gallons of water from an efficiency standpoint. That’s just Crazy Bones right?

[@pedroscigar2906]

@@JerryHughes-u2f awesome info!

[@michaelklarman5710]

Retired fire fighter here, questions for the cops, you asked Derek if we read bed time stories to each other? My question for them is what do you do about the waffle pattern in your hair from resting your head back against the cage while you sleep🤣?

[@Letgo_letlive]

How does he not have more subs and views . I get it hasn’t been 24 hours but still

[@jessieb5505]

There’s flammable materials on most houses… so, that’s why houses do catch fire, even if they look like they wouldn’t.

[@robswan4170]

Rogan needs to have a firefighter on to educate him

[@StandAlonewildfire]

I was there IA on the Camp fires rescuing people on person rd. And was burned over in are engine with civilian traped in are engine. We had to have a dozer push burning cars out of the way. One of my big push before i retired was that when evacuation route are clogged with vehicles is to get people into A TRA temporary refuge area, and ride it out and let the fire front go bye.

[@pedroscigar2906]

@@StandAlonewildfire I listened to the radio traffic that night. Horrific. Thank you for helping.

[@StandAlonewildfire]

It was the hardest fire emotionally in my carrier

[@travelamazon]

Structure Firefighting and Wildland Firefighting, have different skill sets. The Palisades Fire was the worst-case scenario that the Wildland Firefighting community has always known would happen, like we all know there will be a Big Earthquake. My fire gear stayed in my truck for the last 15 years of my career. Dry Brush (Fuel), terrain, narrow roads, insufficient clearance, EMBERS EMBERS EMBERS EMBERS pushed by 90 mph Santa Ana Winds. Speaking to firefighters, the Palisade fire behavior was beyond bizarre, burning back into the winds. I patrolled the boundaries of the Palisades fire for 25 years as a LE Park Ranger/Wildland Firefighter. During the Woosley Fire in 2018, my responsibility was to patrol the areas not affected by the fire. When a Santa Ana event was predicted we went into a 24-hour fire patrol of our properties and checked known areas in the open space where the homeless were attracted to. Some Ranger trucks had fire pumps installed for fire season. I am heartbroken for the residents of the Pacific Palisades.

[@agarnierable]

Wowww... This host.. something going on with the repeated rudeness toward the person in the middle. I had to stop watching after the awkward and cringe "fortunate in different ways" zinger... And it all started with him telling the guy "you're beating around the bush" , then arguing about the palisade fire when indeed the first one exactly what he was talking about... Yikes, just, whew, way to make it awkward for folks who are trying to do y'all a service... Prayers for the guy who was insulted in public three times and for the skills or anger or whatever, of the host.

[@Charlie-lq4bq]

They are both the hosts; the Firefighter, Derek was their guest. The hosts banter back and forth. There was no rudeness, he was just telling a story.

[@pedroscigar2906]

Great show! Just curious. Could the fire dept tap into the pools? I would think only many streets there would be just about be one for every house. 20,000-40,000 gallons.

[@TheDsweet81]

The short answer is yes, we do have the capability to utilize alternative water supplies like a pool in certain situations that fire conditions dictate. Those operations entail a small portable pump with minimal GPM output and multiple personnel for setup. With nearly all on scene fire personnel engaged in life saving operations and the fire conditions at hand, this would not have been a viable operation.

[@KaileyB616]

They can use the ocean water, this dude is misinformed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2KxY3WtmKaHY9U

[@pedroscigar2906]

@@TheDsweet81 I see. Thank you. Would it help if homeowners had a gas pump and hose ready by the pool? I think a lot of home owners would be happy to do that. Or have some simple tools around like shovels and reg hose, but they would not want to impede efforts of FF or endanger themselves by ignoring evac notices and trying to manage things themselves.

[@Brian-rj5rl]

We were under evac for over 3 days, never saw a sheriff or FF after first hours. There aren't enough FF to even be in their way. Yes water and hand tools are very helpful to put out spot fires.

[@glennmitchell9107]

What does it matter if a reservoir is full or not if it is not near the neighborhood on fire? Wouldn't it be more useful to store water for neighborhood fire response in water towers in those neighborhoods?

[@Brian-rj5rl]

It was just above the neighborhood, almost like a water tower

[@glennmitchell9107]

@@Brian-rj5rl The closest I see on the map is the Hollywood reservoir. I wouldn't say it is near Palisades. If there is a water tower nearby, is it dedicated for fire hydrants or does it also feed the domestic water lines?

[@brucemorrison8357]

Good luck getting the zoning approval for that! NIMBYs: "It's too ugly! Put it in someone else's neighborhood!"

[@Brian-rj5rl]

@glennmitchell9107 you can see on a map it's less than 2 miles North of PCH toward the top of the hill and 1/2 mile west of Topanga Canyon. It's smaller for a reservoir at 117 million gallons, with a giant pool cover as it was intended for potable water and is not runoff. So it's like a giant water tower stored above the city on a tall hill.

[@FutureCivilWarHero]

Even if his math was accurate, that's still almost a full day of battling that fire, using the reservoir next to Palisades. There's still no excuse! We're talking about domino's 7 & 8 when we should be talking about domino's 1 & 2 - Proper forest maintenance, adequate water supply & the funding to fight them. Everything else is further down the line of problematic domino's. I.e. wind (that we knew was coming), water pressure, dei hires, above ground cables, the homeless starting them, etc etc etc. The bottom line is leadership wasn't prepared, wind or no wind. Highest respect to the fireFIGHTERS tho!! ZERO blame is on them in any of this!!!!!

[@FreddyD177]

Red ❤️ and Blue 💙 is always here to save you

[@Carrington-ju1nb]

Let the guest speak 🗣️ a bit

[@chiloncrawley5439]

Idgaf about messing up equipment when ppls homes are f*ckin burning. Why even bring that up

[@briandavidsuder8319]

Let’s open up more questions. Rick Caruso is a developer. Developers’s know Developers. It is the same game. Rick knew this was a planned event. He had his paid fire team ready to save his Palisades development. Gavin Gruesome, The Real American Psycho, was preparing for The Olympics and the development of a smart city. Developers will most likely be building comercial properties in the Palisades. Another consideration, I would have scientists test what chemicals were in the environment prior to the fire.

[@DesignRhythm]

If the existing conditions were so bad, why didn't horrific fires start all over LA? 🤔

[@KrazyMCGaming]

need brush to have a fire like that. Most of LA is urban and with no brush my hillsides

[@drivelikejoewho]

Uh, they did. There were multiple fires. There were also three major fires at the same time back in September in LA, OC and IE when there were high winds. Do you live in so cal? I turned on the news the morning the fires started fully expecting a fire to start and shockingly i was right. If you want to learn a bit about fires in so cal watch the KZbin video "every 20 years". I watched that video when the weekend before the fire in Azusa in September and it fulfilled a prophecy the video stated.

[@DesignRhythm]

@@drivelikejoewho No, all 3 fires were near each other on one side of the city.. why weren't they in all areas of the city?

[@drivelikejoewho]

@@DesignRhythm no they weren't. They were all roughly 30+ miles apart the way the way the crow flies. Altadena isn't even a part of the city of los angeles. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but clearly geography isn't your strong suit. I'll assume you're not from the area but google maps can assist you with this data. What point are you trying to make with your question?

[@DesignRhythm]

@@drivelikejoewho LoL..the Santa Ana winds & dry conditions exist all over the LA county - correct? So why were the fires only in certain areas? Wouldn't they be everywhere?

[@nellyberchman6612]

I you live in fire prone area, you should be aware of what kinds of weather in your area might make a fire to spread quickly and be prepared. Have important papers, photos, jewelry, clothing ready packed. Small appliances, dishes, and etc that you can use while you're in hotels or shelter. Your medications, medical equipments, kids favorite toys and blankets. Those are all should be on your evacuation list. Make arrangements for the pets.

[@drgLACity]

LAFD used have the manpower and equipment to augment staffing x2 and staff a robust fleet of ready reserve fire engines and pre-deploy a DOZEN in-house strike teams to the palisades, west San Fernando Valley, and north east Los Angeles (Eaglerock/Glendale area). That was how those extreme wind event days were dealt with in Los Angeles before the 2011 budget cuts.

[@Rangersfan381]

The water supply is not good enough when every reservoir is online. Palisades would need some redundant water feed.

[@Rangersfan381]

If the reservoir was online during the fire there would be a feed into the reservoir why would it not continue to refill the reservoir? I know it has to be pumped up the hill but it should be constant to the reservoir when its in use

[@DougWalton21]

If only Mark and Kyle scored another 10 points on the test...!! EDIT: order early, order big! California only allows wail and yelp for siren tones; what youre talking about is known as hi-lo, alternating between two pitched tones.

[@TheDsweet81]

Or you could take 1 min and google “Hi Lo Evacuation Tones CA” and learn about the Hi Lo Time to Go campaign regarding the hi lo evacuation tones established back in 2017 after the Tubbs Fire in Santa Rosa ca.

[@6strings899]

i read a news article jan16th "San Bernardino Californis is set to construct more than 100 new electric vehicle charging stations after it received a federal grant, the city announced"

[@IanSDaniels]

Tons of info weeks in advance, pre-positioning, and Mayor Bass left for Ghana, the first water drop in Palisades took 45 full minutes, no clue how long it took Fire Fighters to get on the ground… what am I missing here?!?

[@NYyankeeboi]

It is what it is. Your not missing anything. Don't forget Bass promised voters before being elected that she would not travel abroad.

[@tankprohp]

I have been living in California for 40 years, this is all due to neglect and no one wanting to clean up the problem they rather pocket the money just like they're doing with the homeless problem, and the people of the state keep voting the same fucking way expecting different results isn't that the definition of insanity, every freeway you drive down Brown Hill sides everywhere, everyone's talking about the water aspect it's been known for a fact that they have not built a new reservoir since the fucking 60s, so technically it's longer than 40 years but the stuff that I can see can be solved by letting dumbasses that get community service clean the hillside prep work of every homeowner should be required by the state people need to own up their own fucking problems

[@terrycrosby11]

No they didn’t. They didn’t preposition any fire trucks. Nor did they turn off power.

[@terrypauloregon]

I think if they made the lots 20 feet wider for defensible space with no vegetation would that even help. With those kinds of winds and the flying embers? What types of roofing are they using that is flame retardant? I have so many questions about this kinda fire storm.

[@drivelikejoewho]

People keep talking about forest management. Do some research on the chaparral ecosystem. Prescribed burns do happen in so cal but they aren't particularly effective and also can be hazardous. Chaparral burns hot and fast and regrows fast. You also need conditions safe enough to do it. It hasn't rained in so cal since last spring. There is also a massive amount of this area in so cal making it an incredibly laborious task. It's really easy to point out government failure but it's much more challenging to come up with real solutions that are effective.

[@DesignRhythm]

A state with a history of wildfire problems cut the budget for wildfires & the fire dept. yet we're supposed to believe this wasn't preventable. 😂

[@johnthomas8731]

They monitor the weather, turn off power and pre stage fire teams… what about WATER? does anyone check to see if there is WATER?

[@havoc391]

30 year retired police officer. A mattress back how hard up for content officers? Just kidding as usual good content and good to hear his point of view. Keep up the shows.

[@wadecurtis8108]

You pay taxes, they pay you with excuses.

[@corrinnajordan2749]

How do the looters get into the evacuation zones when there are cops there blocking people coming in?

[@nrakma]

High Winds and a Red Flag Wildfire Warning were Forecast for Maui by the NWS, HWS, and Maui Fire Department four days prior to the Maui Fires. Lahaina fit the exact description of the area to be most affected. On Tuesday, August 8, 2023, at 2:30 pm, the Lahaina fire started. The fire started minutes after a small Fire Crew that had been fighting finally extinguished it and monitored the area for almost 8 hours, left without relief to get food. By the time they were called back, the fire had rekindled and was out of control. One Hundred and four lives were lost. Our Lahaina Town burned to the ground. People lost family members, their homes, their businesses, their cars, everything. One week prior on Tuesday, August 1, 2023, the Staffing Level for the Maui Fire and Maui Police Departments was “exactly the same numbers of Firefighters, Cops, Communication Operators and Contract Private Water Tankers as the day of the fires.” Fire Chief Brad Ventura and Police Chief John Pelletier did not see any need to plan and prepare. Chief Ventura’s department was also received the largest Fine by the Hawaii OSHA’s for the preventable Death of a Rookie Firefighter before the fires. Since the fires, both have Chiefs received Excellent Performance Evaluations from the Maui Public Safety Commission for the year, 2023.

[@neldadavis2793]

What water they had was not used by homeless to take baths. Sad but true. No water means clean homeless

[@lukerobson489]

Only way to clean up the governments mess

[@Brian-rj5rl]

It was 8% RH, 80 degree temps and 80+ gust every couple minutes

[@cachebar1599]

Santa rosa got decimated by fires too

[@corrinnajordan2749]

Ok, 20 hours more is still 20 hours. Beyond that, though, what about the Phos-Chek drops?

[@davidmcintyre6513]

I thought most tanks and hoses are not made out of materials that rust or get destroyed from salt water. And if they were dumping salt water for hours as they say why is it all the sudden bad to use salt water from hoses but planes are cool😏 and check out San Francisco’s redundancy in water hookups. It’s totally possible to get ocean water up to the hills. They have regular hydrants hooked into the city supply then they have some hooked into surrounding reservoirs and then they have another set of pumps and pipes dedicated to pulling unlimited water from the ocean as well as the boats which could both run lines to tenders and boost pressure into existing lines which would have all been very useful right now

[@drivelikejoewho]

How is that possible when san francisco is a bunch of whiny liberals?

[@TruthHurtsAJP]

The Eaton fire was like 30 miles from palisades...

[@Letgo_letlive]

Water disappearing is caused by evaporation…. Duh

[@sandiegoeve1]

One word-Investors just like hawaii

[@drivelikejoewho]

One word... lunatic.

[@selena___]

looters dressed as firefighters... despicable. excellent albeit sobering behind the scenes info.

[@Mark..ShotsFiredPodcast]

Thanks for droppin' by Derek, and for sharing some really interesting facts.

[@RogerGraves-s1c]

The LA mayor & CA governor should be held accountable for their failure of banning control burning, not building any new water reservoirs for decades, & failure of doing proven land management. Also the LA mayor taking at least $150M from the LAFD budget to use for homeless & illegals. Also the LA mayor shutting down the water reservoir for "repairs" which is why fire fighters didn't have enough water & water pressure. Just like the Maui fire that killed over 110 people, it wasn't caused by "global warming". The fire fighters there were refused water to fight the Maui fire by the water management director.

[@drivelikejoewho]

They are prescribed burns and they aren't banned. If you have to lie to make a point you're not in a good position. Did you bother to listen to what the firefighter in the video said?

[@mattschultzy671]

Yeah, not fun when the dimensions of the wildland-urban interface start changing rapidly...

[@JimRogers-i4z]

They probably lose job😢

[@johnrusselman1364]

Let's hear this BS

[@HighwayLand]

No city could have stopped it, but the civilian side will always think otherwise.

[@nrakma]

I do not agree. Typical FD response times to small fires means that they are often big fires by the time a crew arrives. When time means everything, sleeping firefighters in their cozy beds in their station that might be no where near the vulnerable areas, means that their main goal is to leave the station within one minute. A awake Fire Watch Crew, prepositioned high up for views and providing for a quick response driving down hill means fighting the fire in one minute, not just pulling out of the barn. Fire departments are fighting today’s wildfires with 1980’s methods. Other than night flying aircraft, what has changed? The same number of firefighters at twice as many Fire Houses would be a great place to start for FD’s to join 21st Century Firefighting.

[@davidhage2943]

You guys sound like arrogant fools.

[@Letgo_letlive]

You can do that when you have a podcast as a source of income

[@Charlie-lq4bq]

Conversation with real life experiences is arrogant & foolish? I think not.

[@wadecurtis8108]

Bottom line: you were better off with about 4 garden hoses, a couple of rain birds, and a full face 3M respirator. 300$ Amazon investment. 1970’s John Holmes porno style handle bar mustache is optional.💁‍♂️

[@happyrick8730]

“Wildland urban interface” Do ya mean the idiots who aren’t supposed to be living in the hills because of Fire Danger?🤔

[@BrianMaxey-m8c]

Has the Hollywood sing burned

[@drgLACity]

LAFD used have the manpower and equipment to augment staffing x2 and staff a robust fleet of ready reserve fire engines and pre-deploy a DOZEN in-house strike teams to the palisades, west San Fernando Valley, and north east Los Angeles (Eaglerock/Glendale area). That was how those extreme wind event days were dealt with in Los Angeles before the 2011 budget cuts.