Coraline Theory - Part 1 - Dolls, Soul Sand, & Helping the Beldam - The Fangirl

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The Fangirl

The Fangirl

7 жыл бұрын

This is part 1 of my theory and it covers Coraline theories on the soul sand, the doll used to lure people into the Other world, and tries answering who might be helping the Beldam in the real world.
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@donhitemusic
@donhitemusic 7 жыл бұрын
I never saw Wybie blowing off his hand as a sign that the magic wouldn't work in the real world. I think he was showing coraline that like everything else in the other world he is fake, an illusion. She wants him to come with her back to the real world and he's showing her that there's no need because he's not real.
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
That is a very, very good point! The only thing I can't figure out then would be why Wybie looks so upset and/or afraid of the Beldam then. If he knows he's not real, and he can't feel actual emotions or sensations, like pain, then why act like it to Coraline?
@brunswick14w
@brunswick14w 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe he can feel, only in the other world. Pain, emotions, and sensations enters the body through the mind. If the button wybie is a soul or just a made up entity, he can feel things and be punished by his creator in that other world. Only certain characters seem to exist in the other world, only if the other mother allows them to exist. Just like the other mother allows the mice to go back and forth and even her hand. Without the creators permission, he can't leave or will cease to exist in the real world. The only issue i have with my own theory, is the cat, who seems to break all of the rules.
@rollerbladingskatingfun9892
@rollerbladingskatingfun9892 7 жыл бұрын
theclarinetist true
@jordy13xoxo17
@jordy13xoxo17 7 жыл бұрын
theclarinetist My theory is the real wybee was actually evil. I have this theory because everything in the other world was the opposite than the dream world. Wybee was sorta a good guy in the real world... then more things my theory? I may make a video
@kellygoodman6167
@kellygoodman6167 7 жыл бұрын
theclarinetist I thought that too
@marlonsmith5409
@marlonsmith5409 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline is more terrifying than like 90% of the adult movies.
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 6 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I was screaming watching it with my daughter because I forgot how bad it was!
@marlonsmith5409
@marlonsmith5409 6 жыл бұрын
The Fangirl Absolutely understandable!
@huggieben8876
@huggieben8876 6 жыл бұрын
The Fangirl I whached it when was 5 years old I was so scared
@onlywatermelon2917
@onlywatermelon2917 6 жыл бұрын
At the begining.. Me: This is like a regular kid movie, no problem. Later.. Me: AHH!!! THIS IS SO CREEPY!!! STOP JUST STOP!
@Vegasboy1038
@Vegasboy1038 5 жыл бұрын
Waaaaaaaaay scarier than movies like the nun
@arrowmcdowell5316
@arrowmcdowell5316 7 жыл бұрын
Coraline said " she will hurt you again " or something like that , I think he blows away his hand to show that he isn't real, he can't be harmed
@scarlettsatterfield6312
@scarlettsatterfield6312 6 жыл бұрын
Arrow Mcdowell true true but how did he get his hand back at the end of the movie??? Exspane that. Also she did harm him, she sowed his miutb into a smile.
@rebecca-yr8cm
@rebecca-yr8cm 6 жыл бұрын
Scarlett Satterfield no but when his mouth gets sewn it’s not harming him or hurting him because he’s not real. he’s just one of the beldam’s puppets.
@AvalillysamAvasamson
@AvalillysamAvasamson 5 жыл бұрын
Arrow mcdowell good theory however he can because she controls everything and everyone so she kills him
@abyd6738
@abyd6738 5 жыл бұрын
Then how did the other mother stick up his face
@danielasaffran3408
@danielasaffran3408 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was to show that he can't survive in the normal world, that if he went to the normal world that's what would happen?
@hxsokie5174
@hxsokie5174 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments are making mind blowing theories and here I am just realizing that Coraline's mum looks like Disgust from Inside out and her dad looks like Fear from inside out, lmao
@rats29
@rats29 6 жыл бұрын
ChogiBaek and Suga Kookies with Tae lmfao
@weirdowithnobeirdo2.o533
@weirdowithnobeirdo2.o533 6 жыл бұрын
ChogiBaek and Suga Kookies with Tae, Lol you are not alone.
@ashiuha
@ashiuha 6 жыл бұрын
ChogiBaek and Suga Kookies with Tae OMG IKR
@user-dv9wq5mt8r
@user-dv9wq5mt8r 6 жыл бұрын
What is imao
@claravaz7817
@claravaz7817 5 жыл бұрын
@@miangelinaortiz-marcano875 .... A kid with the same colours as Joy.
@katie19zap
@katie19zap 7 жыл бұрын
well coraline said "I almost fell down a well yesterday YESERDAY mom" and that means a day has passed
@pjslay
@pjslay 7 жыл бұрын
Kate Kidwell ya that's what I thought, I don't really think wybee is on it but I think he might be his grandmothers pawn
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Kate, in a later video I made the correction that I was taking notes and didn't catch the "yesterday" part the first time through. I said it makes my theory still possible that the doll was dropped off first, but less likely now.
@alyssiawolford8977
@alyssiawolford8977 7 жыл бұрын
The Fangirl you're kinda driving me crazy with the lovet thing it's lovat
@LuckLady1991
@LuckLady1991 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe she kept the doll because the doll was her former twin and wanted to keep it so her twins soul would be safe but something happened that changed everything. Maybe the doll was a way to keep keep an eye on her so when she got a grandson who constantly kept going to the Pink Palace for some reason made grandma worried. Maybe her grandson got stuck with the Beldam and she had to find another kid to take her grandson place because the doll was connect by family being a twin and all.
@CatLover-dr4um
@CatLover-dr4um 6 жыл бұрын
*OHHHH*
@jeebweez
@jeebweez 7 жыл бұрын
coraline: i think i heard someone calling u, wybie. wybie: oh, i didn't hear anything coraline: oh i heard something. Whywereyouborn who else caught that?
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
I think Coraline was making fun of him because he said his name was "Wyborn" shortly before that. She's definitely not a fan of his, which makes an arguable point as to why the Beldam made a copy of Wybee instead of creating copies of Coraline's friends from Michigan.
@joanmartinez7994
@joanmartinez7994 7 жыл бұрын
CoolGoat95
@joanmartinez7994
@joanmartinez7994 7 жыл бұрын
CoolGoat95
@joanmartinez7994
@joanmartinez7994 7 жыл бұрын
nvm
@alyssiawolford8977
@alyssiawolford8977 7 жыл бұрын
CoolGoat95 me I love it
@beatrizmorgado5841
@beatrizmorgado5841 7 жыл бұрын
beldam prepared the world for the twin not for grandma so when thee twin takes grandma to the other world, grandma see's the real beldam and the truth about the other world and escapes but the twin stays because she see's the wonderful and magical world not the truth and when the twin doesn't show up anymore grandma knows why so she protects wybie because she knows about beldam
@stephanielagares4817
@stephanielagares4817 4 жыл бұрын
You're theory makes sense under the assumption that the Grandma actually does enter the other world. They never say weather the grandma enters the other world. They just mentioned Grandma's missing sister, and that Grandma doesn't want kids living in the Pink Palace. Coraline tried to show her Mom the portal to the other world but it was bricked up. Another assumption can be made that the twin tried to show Grandma the portal just like Coraline tried to show her mom. But when the twin sister opened the door opened the door it was bricked up, Grandma didn't believe her, than the twin goes missing and Grandma is scared, because even though she doesn't know what happened, she doesn't want kids living there because loosing her sister gave her PTSD.
@pianolytunes9010
@pianolytunes9010 4 жыл бұрын
I think they both went through the tunnel every night and the beldam asked them to see the button one of them let her and the other one of them escaped and the other twin didnt
@jaydenking6185
@jaydenking6185 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@TheTheorizer
@TheTheorizer 7 жыл бұрын
huh
@rat4sale254
@rat4sale254 7 жыл бұрын
Same
@Duriiam
@Duriiam 7 жыл бұрын
Somebody is subbed to somebody xD
@ofdolce
@ofdolce 7 жыл бұрын
The Theorizer ikr
@TheJman252
@TheJman252 7 жыл бұрын
The Theorizer wow it is you I'm a big fan
@shelbyshoulders7042
@shelbyshoulders7042 7 жыл бұрын
once you watch all videos she presents many points that you have not ststed i recomend that you do it makes me watch the whole movie with new eyes maybe even button ones haha
@tylesialanders3501
@tylesialanders3501 7 жыл бұрын
I just got done watching Coraline and I noticed that you never mentioned when bobinski told coraline that the mice told him to tell her not to go though the little door.
@hopesy12u4
@hopesy12u4 6 жыл бұрын
Lele Landers yeah... what's with that?
@randomuser1227
@randomuser1227 6 жыл бұрын
john smith yeah how did he know?
@ArthurMorgan-zq8ut
@ArthurMorgan-zq8ut 6 жыл бұрын
Asuna489 because he's nuts and he can talk to Them
@jodiejhoward
@jodiejhoward 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@lakehodges5789
@lakehodges5789 6 жыл бұрын
Lele Landers ok
@evettenicole6466
@evettenicole6466 7 жыл бұрын
about the parents being captured by the beldam.... wasn't there a scene where the doll was half the mom and half the dad?
@QueenOfPrankstersXD
@QueenOfPrankstersXD 7 жыл бұрын
JustRonnie K Yes there was. If you noticed in the scene before that when Coraline escaped to the real world, the beldam was descending down the stairs which meant that she was making the doll for her parents in the room that was seen in the beginning of the movie. That's why the dolls act like spies for the beldam and when the parents woke they probably woke up in the other world where she trapped them in the snowglobe
@weirdowithnobeirdo2.o533
@weirdowithnobeirdo2.o533 6 жыл бұрын
JustRonnie K, Yeah to me it looks like the Bedlam made two dolls of the parents ( Because it's pretty hard to make one half of two dolls them sow them together.) then ripped the two dolls in half then sowed them back together. But yeah that happened in the movie.
@cadycorn
@cadycorn 5 жыл бұрын
JustRonnie K, Yes, I think that the doll is how the Beldam captured the mom and dad.
@julianap661
@julianap661 5 жыл бұрын
JustRonnie K yes
@hopepapernacky
@hopepapernacky 5 жыл бұрын
JustRonnie K Yep
@shxnyst
@shxnyst 6 жыл бұрын
Actually , wybie didnt drop the doll before meeting Coraline . When she asked her mom if she could go out . She said " i almost fell in a well YESTERDAY, mom . So he could drop it after meeting her
@honeynstrawberrys6960
@honeynstrawberrys6960 6 жыл бұрын
They should make coralline 2
@scardycat8355
@scardycat8355 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline 2 with the storyline that coraline is still actually stuck in the pink palace limbo! It would be amazing!
@honeynstrawberrys6960
@honeynstrawberrys6960 6 жыл бұрын
ScardyCat 83 OMG yes and she has to find clues with the grandma and go through faces and if she doesn't do it right she has to start from the grading party
@AlexisLopez-xm1rr
@AlexisLopez-xm1rr 6 жыл бұрын
yeah
@lorayjay7125
@lorayjay7125 6 жыл бұрын
they should, but it took like 12 months to make the first one
@joaoleite7353
@joaoleite7353 6 жыл бұрын
Laika never makes sequels
@Sunflower_17
@Sunflower_17 6 жыл бұрын
The well leads to the Beldam's creation room. If you look through the window in the beginning, you see "a sky full of stars." Also notice how we never see this room anywhere in the pink palace. The well is a portal to her room. That's how she gets the doll.
@kaitlynmcallister4487
@kaitlynmcallister4487 4 жыл бұрын
So when they threw the key down they gave it back to the other mother??
@blufishy1355
@blufishy1355 4 жыл бұрын
Kaitlyn McAllister yes
@momokoasuka7930
@momokoasuka7930 4 жыл бұрын
​@@blufishy1355 but coraline said let's hide the key somewhere she (the beldam) can never find.. if they gave back the key then another kid could fall into this trap right?
@drewaw8314
@drewaw8314 3 жыл бұрын
AND THIS IS WHERE CORALINE 2 COMES IN JDVKKRJVIFOFKDMCKFID F FJFDKMDKREOKDFNF F YASSSSSSSS
@Sunflower_17
@Sunflower_17 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewaw8314 EXACTLY!! WHERE DO WE START THE PETITION!!
@queendawson3071
@queendawson3071 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline is hands down the best movie and these theories make in even better
@uzipinkyring
@uzipinkyring 6 жыл бұрын
internet nerd |-/
@hibakais
@hibakais 5 жыл бұрын
facts
@jamessunderland8360
@jamessunderland8360 5 жыл бұрын
it's my second favourite, as i adore heathers (1989).
@andyanderson7149
@andyanderson7149 6 жыл бұрын
ok but in the doll its not sand it's saw dust. the symbolism is in the "stuffing" the twin sister was probably soft and easy to manipulate while corline was saw dust a much tougher materal
@selobee4831
@selobee4831 6 жыл бұрын
That actually could make a lot of sense, good thoughts!
@stoyanpetkov3853
@stoyanpetkov3853 7 жыл бұрын
The doll and the mice contain very little of the Beldam's soul sand which is why they can survive in the real world. But people like the Other Father and the Other Wybie contain a lot of it and cannot survive outside the Other World. And her hand made it because it is not a biological part of her. It is metallic.
@charlottedew2162
@charlottedew2162 7 жыл бұрын
i think the beldam is (or was) a whitch and the cat used to be her cat.
@vlogs-gh3rg
@vlogs-gh3rg 7 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Dew I think the cat is really a boy who was killed by her
@perfectcats3256
@perfectcats3256 7 жыл бұрын
100%vlogs ! Wouldn't he be a soul though?
@lindsaybrillon
@lindsaybrillon 7 жыл бұрын
✍🏼️✍🏼️✍🏼️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽☠️☠️☠️☠️💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼
@ashiuha
@ashiuha 6 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Dew I think that the cat used to be the “ one boring blue boy” that Coraline called the boy
@wubblebubbleban
@wubblebubbleban 6 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Dew *witch
@frostbite7520
@frostbite7520 7 жыл бұрын
two words: The cat.......maybe ,hear me out on this, its the cat considering that Wybie (however its spelled) kept the cat. Grandma gives the doll to the cat to deliver and uses the boy as a distraction, keeping in mind the cat does move pretty fast and has some magical value (how he disappeared behind the Pink Palace sign at the end of the movie ) it would be easy for him to make the delivery and still be able to catch up with said children by the well. Like the cat and grandma could both work for the Beldam and she could be pretending to hate cats only because she like to play "games" and deceive people. I Know I'm late and this might be already covered but just in case it might shed some sort of light on the subject of the doll getting to Coraline issue.
@yomama2695
@yomama2695 4 жыл бұрын
Kp
@sophiehale1171
@sophiehale1171 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@kimberlysnowyowl7871
@kimberlysnowyowl7871 7 жыл бұрын
Cool theories, but there are a few things that I wanted to say. Your theory says that Wybie's grandma has some kind of a deal with the Beldam. Ok, so far, so good. But I don't think what you said makes really much sense. You asked why there would be only one twin sister who got lured into the other world. My personal thought here is that one of the twins was unhappy, maybe because she didn't feel loved and her parents would prefer her sister (Grandma). Maybe it is also important to know that Wybie doesn't exist in the novel. He was invented by the producers because they didn't know how to picture Coralines thoughts without making her look like always talking to herself. So, there is actually no grandma in the story to begin with, the side infos are told by a narrator. I hope this helps understanding why I don't agree with you in this grandma point, but nevertheless, this is actually a good video and I like your theories. Have a nice day. :)
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Love the comment! I have been working my way through the Coraline book. I've already finished the graphic novel, and I did note that the doll and the Lovat family are all missing there. But, films and books often change, so the film can be taken as a separate work from the book. If not, we need to question where the creature in the corridor is in the film and why the Beldam has a spider form. But the fact that they took the time to animate Mrs. Lovat may be a clue at her unspoken importance. After all, animation is difficult and time consuming, so why not let Mrs. Lovat stay a voice in the distance over designing a body for her? Her appearance wasn't important to thr plot. The Beldam vanishes after her hand is vanquished, and suddenly Mrs. Lovat enters for the happy ending, moments before the cat uses a portal again. Seems off to me. Why not show Grandma in the beginning instead? Why didn't she warn Coraline about the little door? Why did she leave the key in that apartment to begin with? I will say in later theories I've started focusing on the cat as being more involved with the Beldam than Grandma Lovat, but I still think there is some connection since Mrs. Lovat never explained why she let Coraline move into the Pink Palace after having a strict "no kids" policy for decades.
@joanmartinez7994
@joanmartinez7994 7 жыл бұрын
The Fangirl oh
@melodyyoung1996
@melodyyoung1996 7 жыл бұрын
Kimberly SnowyOwl I agree. And the one with Wybie bringing the doll to Coraline was a bit false when The Fangirl said at the same day. Coraline said to her mom that she almost fell down the well "yesterday." Meaning that would give Wybie enough time to find the doll, rap it up in newspaper, write the note, and put on the front porch. And maybe the doll was in grandmas trunk at the time and the other mother was able to go between worlds to get it, change it, and put it back. It could be that Wybie was just poking his nose around grandmas things one day and just found it randomly. Which would mean that when grandma wanted the doll back, she might have not known that the doll changed to look like Coraline. In fact, she may not have known much (if not anything at all) about the other world, and wanted the doll back because it's the last thing that was left of her missing sister.
@AwesomeGirl86
@AwesomeGirl86 7 жыл бұрын
+The Fangirl Very interesting theories! :) Perhaps the reason why Coraline and her family were allowed to go to live in the Pink Palace is because that Mrs. Lovat's son, (Wybie's father), probably ignored his mother's "no kids" policy and decided to let them in anyways. Sure, there's no mention of Mrs. Lovat's son, but it's still interesting to think about it. Even the Theorizer came up with a theory maybe Mrs. Lovat was sick for a little while and her son took over temporarily and decided to have Coraline's family live in the Pink Palace apartments despite Mrs. Lovat's "no kids" policy.
@emilyoplinger8046
@emilyoplinger8046 7 жыл бұрын
I think you got something there
@misunderstoodducklings5069
@misunderstoodducklings5069 7 жыл бұрын
My theory for Wybie: the buttoned eyed one was created by the other mother and when the other mother was chasing Coraline, the other mother's world was disappearing. And because that buttoned eyed Wybie was created by the other mother, he was starting to disappear too. When his hand blew away- he was proving to Coraline that he didn't have control over himself. In the comic book, it's showed that the father was created my the other mother- and that she created this world. Does that make sense?? Idk if my theory works😅
@TolerateDaMilk
@TolerateDaMilk 7 жыл бұрын
Misunderstood Ducklings it makes sense because during the movie the dad seemed nice, and he even said while chasing coraline "so sorry, mother making me do this" and then gave her the child eye before he fell through. when he was playing piano he almost told her what mother was doing but the piano hands stopped him
@GabyGibson
@GabyGibson 6 жыл бұрын
Misunderstood Ducklings You have an excellent point
@vanessajenna7450
@vanessajenna7450 6 жыл бұрын
I think that’s actually really good. Her theories make me sad because they don’t have happy endings like the movie looks like, so I’ll consider anything to give Coraline a happy ending. Like I don’t want to believe that ever since she went through the door, she was stuck in the Beldams lair like forever.
@peterfraser8797
@peterfraser8797 6 жыл бұрын
Misunderstood Ducklings in
@its_umella
@its_umella 6 жыл бұрын
Misunderstood Ducklings Well yes the other mother created the other world. While Coraline tries to run away and ends up walking towards where the old well should be she's talking with the cat who states that it's a small world created to what would make the child happy or what would seem appealing enough for them to stay
@ellashae3402
@ellashae3402 7 жыл бұрын
the whole Wybie leaving the doll on the porch before seeing Coraline at the well most likely isn't true. when she get the doll from her mum (mom) it is the next day as she says "i could have fell down a well yesterday mom" or something similar) it implies that a whole day or so had passed. Wybie could have easily found the doll in the trunk then, wrapped it up and in the morning left it on the porch. p.s i love these videos
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
I actually caugh that mistake and made the correction in a later video. I said I could still be right about Wybie dropping off the doll first, but it was less likely since Coraline did reference seeing the well yesterday.
@ellashae3402
@ellashae3402 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply! you are truely one of my favourite channels. i must have missed it in the other video but ill have another look :)
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
I'm one of your favorites? Aww, thank you! I have no idea where you live or how old you are, but I have the desire to adopt you now lol
@ellashae3402
@ellashae3402 7 жыл бұрын
awwwww hahaha I live in Australia so that not work. but know you have a fan from the other side of the world :D
@alyssiawolford8977
@alyssiawolford8977 7 жыл бұрын
RadioactiveElla my daughters name is Ella😀
@honeynightcorestudios339
@honeynightcorestudios339 6 жыл бұрын
I agree they should make a Coraline 2
@huggieben8876
@huggieben8876 6 жыл бұрын
Cynthia Dalton me to
@Autism__Man
@Autism__Man 5 жыл бұрын
They probably won’t because the original movie was made in 2009 and they sold all their puppets
@ellagrace5761
@ellagrace5761 5 жыл бұрын
Actually before coralines mum gives her the doll coraline says ”i almost fall down a well YESTERDAY mom” so it would have had to be a day that had past, giving wybie time to drop it off👌
@foreveralone1560
@foreveralone1560 6 жыл бұрын
4:45 maybe one twin went though the door when the other was asleep and the one asleep stayed alive for this reason
@donhitemusic
@donhitemusic 7 жыл бұрын
I think the Mrs. Lovatt (sp?) being in cahoots with the beldam is a bit of a stretch. anything is possible, but I think it's a pretty complicated way to explain some of these things. My view on the doll is: Mrs. Lovatt kept the doll after her sister's disappearance not realizing it was evil or magical (she just wanted something to remember her sister by). I don't necessarily think the doll had to return to the other world to be transformed either. I've always viewed the opening sequence as more figurative (I think it's more meant to show that there is some mysterious force "creating" the dolls, and that Coraline isn't the first, not to imply that she is actually physically sewing them). I don't think the beldam has to actually physical sew the doll into Coraline any more than she had to physically build the other house with a hammer and nails. It could easily just be done by magic. Things in the other world transform (and deconstruct) magically without any physically interaction from the beldam, like when the room transforms into a spider web. Maybe the doll is in the trunk, and the other mother transforms it magically knowing Wybie will find it and give it to coraline. The transformation, assuming it is magical and instantaneous, could happen at anytime. When Mrs. lovatt wants the doll back, I assume she doesn't even know it has been transformed. SHe probably thinks it's the doll that looks like her sister (perhaps Wybie told her he gave that old doll she had to the new girl...)
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
I could see Mrs. Lovat keeping the doll for sentimental reasons. But, why would the Beldam allow it if she needs the doll? Now, if the cat is working for the Beldam, like I sort of learn more towards in Part 4, then Mrs. Lovat might be blameless. Or she might not have known that the doll changed. But somebody had to give and take the doll. It is possible that the intro scene was metaphorical, but it's unlikely. If you're going to make a paranormal movie where we are supposed to believe that the magic and danger is real in the plot, then you can't mix in symbolic gestures or it becomes too convoluted. If you've seen Dawn of Justice, there's a scene in the beginning where a young Bruce Wayne is physically being lifted up by a bat vortex, and that is supposed to be a symbolic moment BUT it doesn't work with the film, because a few minutes later I'm supposed to believe that another character can really fly and use laser vision and all that. So, you either have to make these movies all symbolism or you have to commit to a fully paranormal world. But, even going back to the cat being the main Beldam accomplice, there are some things that don't make sense about Mrs. Lovat's actions. 1) Why does she suddenly decide to rent to a family with a child after years of refusing to do so? 2) Why did she leave the key to the Other World in that apartment? Even a little bit of cement in the key hole before they wallpapered over it would have prevented anyone else from returning to the Other World. 3) Why let Wybie constantly go up anywhere near that house? I'd lock that boy inside or move completely if I were afraid of the Other World and the Beldam. She even sends Wybie to the Pink Palace to retrieve the doll instead of calling her tenants or going by there herself, so she has to know that there is no danger for him.
@donhitemusic
@donhitemusic 7 жыл бұрын
The only problem with the all symbolic or all literal thing is the bedlam is shown releasing the doll into the void (or outer space)... if we are to take the scene as entirely literal, then she didn't need anyone to deliver the doll to the real world. This is further reason I think the opening sequence is symbolic... Plus I think since it's during the opening credits, we have more liberty to interpret it figuratively. Thanks!
@tazmainiac0817
@tazmainiac0817 6 жыл бұрын
The Wybie thing was a day later! "I almost fell down a well yesterday!"
@lanacharara9631
@lanacharara9631 6 жыл бұрын
I like your theories but one thing bugs me. You pointed out how alot of the stuff we saw and that happened where Coraline could see it was an act planned by the witch. But when other Whybe (? not sure how to spell his name) started to look sad and other mom told him to smile 1) he looked sad and Coraline never saw it so what was the point of that if he's controlled by the witch and 2) Why did other mom have to instruct him to smile? Also when Coraline wasn't even looking what is the point of that?? If he's a puppet under her control and everything he did that made coraline trust his actions, was meant to help trick and trap carline what is the point of him looking sad (without being seen) and other mom telling him to smile?? She could just make him smile and not have to tell him to smile know what i mean?
@snatchingcareers4681
@snatchingcareers4681 4 жыл бұрын
Lana Charara plus she had to sew his mouth to smile, why would she do that if she can control him
@spitzkopflarry4728
@spitzkopflarry4728 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the other mother wants coraline to believe that whybe? isnt controlled by her and she can trust him
@willow3611
@willow3611 6 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a marathon of this
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 6 жыл бұрын
*virtual high five!*
@siriuslymentalthatone2528
@siriuslymentalthatone2528 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Beldam lives in the well . I remember Wybie saying that the well was so deep you could see stars even though it's in the day. That kinda explains the opening scene, or maybe Wybie's grandma's trunk is some sort of portal to the other word since she made a deal with the beldam so she can get the doll when a kid lives in the pink palace and changes it . Anyway these as somethings I thought about, even though they have some gaps that aren't so clear
@MillieBlackRose
@MillieBlackRose 6 жыл бұрын
I saw Wybie doing that to show Coraline he was already deteriorating like everything else.
@UserY2k3
@UserY2k3 7 жыл бұрын
your wrong wybie had the entire day to leave the doll because after Coraline drops the pepple in the well and shows her putting vegetable packets on the window she tells her mom "I almost fell down a well yesterday mom." and then gets the doll wybie left at her front door the day before.
@HeartGamer26
@HeartGamer26 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@rae3429
@rae3429 7 жыл бұрын
Josh_ #23 it was a glob of mud. not a pebble.
@UserY2k3
@UserY2k3 7 жыл бұрын
Raegan Vereen It doesn't matter so stfu
@gilbunny9069
@gilbunny9069 7 жыл бұрын
Josh_ #23 oof
@gilbunny9069
@gilbunny9069 7 жыл бұрын
Josh_ #23 ok wow I actually liked ur comments, now my feelings are hurt
@Mrsqtfactory
@Mrsqtfactory 7 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the movie, I took Wybie blowing off his hand as a sign that he was taking away the last bit of magical control the beldam had on him to fully commit himself to helping Coraline, as if he had to stay in the beldam's world to try and destroy her or something. Your theories are changing my perspective. Very interesting!
@genuinetrash8449
@genuinetrash8449 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen or thought about coraline since i was 6! Now i feel the urge to watch it
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Do it! Netflix recently listed it again! :)
@lemonit8958
@lemonit8958 3 жыл бұрын
It is shown at the end of the movie that Coraline never escaped the other mothers world. Its hidden in plain sight. Basically it is shown when the cat disappears behind the sign
@miceky222
@miceky222 6 жыл бұрын
I like how in the description it says part 1 of 3 when there happens to be 14
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 6 жыл бұрын
After Part 4 I gave up on trying to limit myself.
@DarkWolper
@DarkWolper 7 жыл бұрын
If the Beldam created the other world why was Wybie even helping Coraline? If she created a trap for Coraline there would also be no need to get the key back because she can have it anytime
@lilyrosedepplover
@lilyrosedepplover 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but I think it’s to make us infer that the only way for the Beldam to truly have power over the key is if Coraline gives it up willingly.
@stepani8059
@stepani8059 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilyrosedepplover yea to make coraline give up the beldam even kidnapped her parents right
@cookiesquadandvuxganggirla6844
@cookiesquadandvuxganggirla6844 5 жыл бұрын
Who wants Coraline 2... *AND AT LEAST LET ALL THE CORLINE DALLS IN NEW YORK MORE UMMM...CHEAPER??!!!!*
@Autism__Man
@Autism__Man 5 жыл бұрын
On Amazon, they have them for $40.98 which is the collectors version but if you want a cheap and easy cosplay, search up on amazon “Coraline pop figures” and they’re kinda cheap but worth it
@nightwolfxoxo5534
@nightwolfxoxo5534 7 жыл бұрын
Unless it wasn't Wibby who left it there....
@sftbagels2816
@sftbagels2816 4 жыл бұрын
Your profile😱🤤😨
@-pippa-4124
@-pippa-4124 6 жыл бұрын
I think Bobinski has a bigger part than we think. He's definitely linked to it all seeing as he actually warned Coraline about the little door and just his behaviour in general. Bobinski is a very interesting character
@brianna-sr9mi
@brianna-sr9mi 3 жыл бұрын
All this made me think. When I heard your ideas I start thinking and saying “that’s a good point”. Thanks I love this and I would not think of Coralline the same! ❤️❤️
@cmNorwood
@cmNorwood 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is REALLY late.. BUT I have a theory that when Coraline first got to the house, she entered the other world by pushing that button that said "do not push"; which makes sense because that would be why Coraline's mom knew which key to use. After that, she met Wyborne, which could've been a distraction so that the Beldam could leave the doll at her door. this lines up with her meeting her neighbors for the first time, which didn't happen until after she found the doll if I'm not mistaken. And that's why Spink and Forcible read her tea leaves and told her there was danger, and Mr. B telling her that the mice said to stay away from the little door. They were trying to deter her from going back through the portal so she would be stuck in the other world forever.
@Ashfullstop12
@Ashfullstop12 5 жыл бұрын
That actually makes a LOT of sense! Amazing theory!
@lemonyanimations6238
@lemonyanimations6238 5 жыл бұрын
Adult movies 76% scary Coralline 100% scary
@Duriiam
@Duriiam 7 жыл бұрын
+The Fangirl I’d love it if you did a young justice theory!
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
I flippin' LOVE Young Justice! My name's pronounces like M'gann M'orzz, so I kind of bonded with it right away.
@messymamac8996
@messymamac8996 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we get to hear a bit about your process going back to these vids!
@Darkomare
@Darkomare 7 жыл бұрын
What if the doll (before the beldam puts her on the table) was wybie's grandmother's twin sister
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Like, the twin's soul was trapped in there?
@Darkomare
@Darkomare 7 жыл бұрын
Probably
@isaliesantiago7705
@isaliesantiago7705 6 жыл бұрын
the picture Wybie’s grandma gave him contained her and her twin sister and if you look closely you can see the doll from the very beginning. IM VERY late and you probably already saw it but I’m just gonna put it out there just in case you didn’t
@spagttiwackmelen9382
@spagttiwackmelen9382 6 жыл бұрын
Also rember in the movie when u saw wybies jacket and gloves? That's what she made the outher button eye whybie out of
@ariannafrancine284
@ariannafrancine284 7 жыл бұрын
I love how you explained everything, it makes the movie more interesting
@ellamun-lai9676
@ellamun-lai9676 5 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite movie, it’s so amazing! I’ve seen some of your other Coraline videos but I want to watch them all in order. So this is the start of my binge, I’m about to spend so much time on my phone😂
@abi-hv1cu
@abi-hv1cu 6 жыл бұрын
the doll that flys in is the same as wibeys grammas sister!
@karenblanco4466
@karenblanco4466 7 жыл бұрын
me: *hears the word "miraculously"* *starts singing Miraculous Ladybug theme song like crazy*
@et4949
@et4949 6 жыл бұрын
Jimin Donut Care ._.
@hiraya8283
@hiraya8283 6 жыл бұрын
Its simply the best show ever
@niloflorentino4089
@niloflorentino4089 6 жыл бұрын
Jimin Donut Care i
@stinker9240
@stinker9240 6 жыл бұрын
Jimin Donut Care Miraculous something something something something... (I am a bad fan)
@gickles8830
@gickles8830 6 жыл бұрын
Everytime
@melissarodriguez6034
@melissarodriguez6034 4 жыл бұрын
Girl!!! You hit all the right places that I’ve been itching about!!!
@jordanjohnson7289
@jordanjohnson7289 5 жыл бұрын
When I was 7 I watched like 5 mins of this movie and had nightmares for a week I’m 12 now and the name still brings shivers down my spine
@alexismaldonado6396
@alexismaldonado6396 6 жыл бұрын
there MAY be cotton because whoever dies, the "soulsand" turns into cotton as to represent the ghost....(sorry, IK that my theory is dumb)
@queendsheena1
@queendsheena1 6 жыл бұрын
I am liking this theory so far. So glad I rewatched Coraline yesterday so my mind is fresh and ready. Never suspected Whyborn before but in the other world the people are opposite. If the Whyorn doll guy is nice and quiet then what is his flesh version? Something to consider though personally I don't suspect him. The grandmother however is another question. She has a grandson then suddenly this monster has returned and a kid happens to move into The Pink Palace? Me thinks when her grandson reached a certain age that someone came calling and when the grandmother realized he was being tempted, she made a deal. After all the cat was hanging around him and then went to Coraline alot once she visited the other place. Plus Whyborn came to believe her pretty quick towards the end. This show is indeed rich with theories and I'm excited to see your next one in party 2.
@tamagotchi7989
@tamagotchi7989 6 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is why the grandma had an exact replica doll of Coraline. Like isn't that weird??
@chaos_lolz
@chaos_lolz 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to watch all the colorline theories non stop
@giannax3653
@giannax3653 6 жыл бұрын
Mrs Lovett....... Mrs Lovett? Mrs Lovett?! MRS LOVETT?! SHE CAME BACK TO LIFE FROM SWEENEY TODD?!
@bloom1044
@bloom1044 6 жыл бұрын
But not only The Dolls and the Mice are made up of Soul Sand! Have you forgotten that even the other Wybie was made of Soul Sand also? I mean Cmon its even shown in the Movie at the Part where he shows it Coraline to make her see and understand that he is not real and just a Slave Product made up of the crazy Mind and magical Soulsand of this dark Witch and only the Witch herself and her Man if you can call him that are not made of Soulsand because they are Originals! You yourself said the other Wybie couldnt last in the other World :Yeah,because he is made up of this Soulsand like a living Voodoo Doll that is being scared and forced by his Creator (The dark Witch) It is obvious that hes scared of her and upset because it is shown in the Movie
@guybricker6303
@guybricker6303 6 жыл бұрын
Irma Schneider she literally explained why that’s WRONG
@aquarikizz3034
@aquarikizz3034 6 жыл бұрын
My god i have so many questions.....your videos are amazing!!! I just found them yesterday so im quite late, but my god im addicted already!
@emilydickey96
@emilydickey96 5 жыл бұрын
Really good point about the timeline of Wybie and dropping off the doll + note, didn't even think of it in that way!
@ava4120
@ava4120 7 жыл бұрын
OMG U SCARE ME WHEN U HAVE PICS OF THE BELDAM AH
@audreymccallion125
@audreymccallion125 7 жыл бұрын
WAIT!!!! Coraline says "I almost fell down a well YESTERDAY, mom"
@hannahdanielle4302
@hannahdanielle4302 3 жыл бұрын
People may say this movie isnt scary because it has a happy ending and the creatures arent scary... But when you think about the concept of the movie, and you think about theories and what happens, you realize how damn creepy it is
@emilysoldaccount3644
@emilysoldaccount3644 6 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely mind-blowing but I 100% agree with all of it.
@galaxyeyes9879
@galaxyeyes9879 6 жыл бұрын
anyone else scared of this movie?
@l6i6l47
@l6i6l47 6 жыл бұрын
Galaxy Eyes me!!!!
@dorkausaurasrex6285
@dorkausaurasrex6285 7 жыл бұрын
at least she didn't take all the credit also the hand is robotic
@machiavelliandichotomy
@machiavelliandichotomy 7 жыл бұрын
Actually love your videos ❤️
@jessicagates4054
@jessicagates4054 7 жыл бұрын
I love your theories so much! One day this channel will definitely have > 1mil
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Time will tell where this channel goes, but I'd be happy with even 100,000!
@ellerbesamayah
@ellerbesamayah 6 жыл бұрын
Theory add on #2- very short but means a lot.. The beldam is the twin sister..
@ellerbesamayah
@ellerbesamayah 6 жыл бұрын
Chloë M 👀
@tinafarra1144
@tinafarra1144 6 жыл бұрын
I watched Coraline when I was around 7, and it gave me nightmares. So, no offense, but WHAT KIND OF PARENT ARE YOU?!?!?
@Keyco234
@Keyco234 6 жыл бұрын
Tina Farra a fantastic one I'll say
@NyanCrush
@NyanCrush 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ashIesha
@ashIesha 6 жыл бұрын
Anthena Lee this movie isn’t even twelve years old
@michellekunze524
@michellekunze524 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@tinafarra1144
@tinafarra1144 6 жыл бұрын
Anthena Lee excuse you! I will not tolerate anyone insulting me in such a manner! I will have you know that I was about 6 years old!
@jordy13xoxo17
@jordy13xoxo17 7 жыл бұрын
I love the theory about the grandmother. puts my wybee theory a wee bit further
@AnimeLover-iq5sj
@AnimeLover-iq5sj 7 жыл бұрын
Love the channel you mentioned I've seen a lot of his videos
@oldaccount8116
@oldaccount8116 6 жыл бұрын
Wybie was not guided to bring the doll to Coraline here is why: Coraline’s Mom gave her the doll after Coraline met Wybie Wybie May have just looked in the trunk and noticed that the doll looked like Coraline so he sent it to her How the doll was sent there: Her mom may have forgotten to give the doll to Coraline when she walked in and Wybie May have found it when he came into his house so he may have Took a short cut to get to her house faster
@court_eh
@court_eh 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Belldam is the grandma's sister?
@crunchlps6292
@crunchlps6292 6 жыл бұрын
Streamlily yeah.
@maddybelle857
@maddybelle857 6 жыл бұрын
if they were sisters then why did she steal the grandmas twin? and the beldam is really old so i doubt they could be related
@bellqa
@bellqa 6 жыл бұрын
I am obsessed with this movie!
@fawkesmoons7436
@fawkesmoons7436 7 жыл бұрын
i just saw ur channel today and if any of ur other vids are good as the Coraline vids then I'm sold on ur channel.
@spagttiwackmelen9382
@spagttiwackmelen9382 6 жыл бұрын
Who moved the doll? The outher mother. (Yw)
@jordankelly9398
@jordankelly9398 2 жыл бұрын
5 years late but when you talked about the doll and how mrs lovatt recieves them you reference to the opening screen of the other mother making the dolls and floating it out to a starry night sky. Like you've said before we believe the well to be a portal from the limbo palace; and during the scene which wybie and coraline meet for the first time at the well moments before she gets home to see the doll he says "It's supposed to be so deep, if you fell to the bottom and looked up, you'd see a sky full of stars." crazy shit.love this film.
@jamespitts8068
@jamespitts8068 6 жыл бұрын
I remember...something very similar to coralline...when I was younger it was a movie...and I can't find any trace of its existence anywhere...even though I can remember each thing in it with clear vision, it was so weird and so real, this was before coralline was even announced...I'm gonna do more research on it to see if it was real.
@triplecoasta333
@triplecoasta333 6 жыл бұрын
Janimations Pans Labyrinth maybe?
@lillypeters3759
@lillypeters3759 6 жыл бұрын
i know this was made a year ago, but when whybie blew his hand off, he was showering her that only she needed to go because the beldam couldn’t hurt him because she said “come or she’ll hurt you too” but he shook his head and blew away the sand. also, the beldam made the people out of natural things. like the other father being made out of a pumpkin. they needed something to fuel it and make it come alive therefore the beldam could have used soulsand. (sorry if that didn’t make sense)
@annaproteau9785
@annaproteau9785 7 жыл бұрын
I always assumed that the stuffing of the doll represented the child's personality. The stuffing was for a sweet fluffy child while sand is for a more rough-around-the-edges rocky kind of child. I dunno
@s4ndr14
@s4ndr14 6 жыл бұрын
when i was 3 i wached this move.... i cried at the end because i was scared shitless
@SuperLetsplayfan
@SuperLetsplayfan 6 жыл бұрын
When it came to the Cotton in the Doll I thought it depended on the person. Like the last girl was sweet and soft where she'd want a softer huggable doll, where Coraline is a bit.. rougher yknow? The sand would weigh a bit more and in general fit her personality more
@chinennya1524
@chinennya1524 7 жыл бұрын
my family watches this movie just right now and i'm watching this theories right now Cx
@itsmeleigh640
@itsmeleigh640 5 жыл бұрын
One explination for how the doll got to the Beldam in the beginning is multiple portals. I think The Theriozer talked about this in his videos too and it wouldn't be too far of a stretch because we know there's more than one way to get to the other world. For example the little door in the pink palace, the well and at the end of the video we see the cat disapper into the sign. Also did anyone else notice that Wybie's grandmother looks like she could possibly be blind? Theories on that would be cool.
@LuLu-Sil
@LuLu-Sil 5 жыл бұрын
On Mrs. Lovat and Wybie (?) working with the Beldam, Coraline says to her mother "I almost fell down a well YESTERDAY." So it's the next day when the doll appears on their doorstep. Plus when the Other Mother / Beldam makes the Coraline doll it looks new but when she sees it for the first time it looks a little worn and aged. Plus Wybie says that it had been in the attic for YEARS. Just a thought.
@cassiec9222
@cassiec9222 6 жыл бұрын
Binge watching this whole series tonight
@eyeofra4059
@eyeofra4059 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching theories it’s so addicting and coralline is my daughter and I all time favorite movie
@sandrixhozart7838
@sandrixhozart7838 5 жыл бұрын
Wow so much I remember it came out around my bday years even though I am curious about more Coraline
@thatARTISTICguy
@thatARTISTICguy 7 жыл бұрын
@The Fangirl I'm LOVING these videos! i just have one thing to point out... in the scene where Coraline's mother gives her the doll that Wybie left on the porch, Coraline was wearing completely different clothes in this scene than in the previous scene. in the previous scene, she's seen wearing a skirt and striped tights but in the next scene, she is wearing jeans. the only same thing that she is wearing is the raincoat and rain boots. i believe its a different day altogether, which would've given the poison from the poison oak to affect the skin on her hands as well as enough time for Wybie to find the doll in his grandmas trunk. as for the raincoat and boots, i believe that Coraline put those on expecting her mother to let her play in the rain. I don't think that its the same day because i doubt that Coraline would change her outfit in the same day for no reason. just a little food for thought.
@yulestghoul
@yulestghoul 6 жыл бұрын
When other wybie blew his hand away he wasn't trying to say the sand would stop working if he left the other world, he was simply showing coraline that he was coming undone and couldn't help her anymore than he already had.
@ava4120
@ava4120 7 жыл бұрын
really good theories btw
@TheFangirlWatches
@TheFangirlWatches 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@animetraps5310
@animetraps5310 5 жыл бұрын
an old caroline theory I had was that wybi's grandma is actually his grandma's twin sister and his real grandma is stuck in the pink palace limbo in place of her sister
@donnaalexander4420
@donnaalexander4420 6 жыл бұрын
Btw. When she gets home and sees the doll, earlier in that scene Coraline is found saying " I almost fell down a well YESTERDAY mom" and when was she found exploring near the well??? Yesterday, with Wybie. So, he didn't do it when she got home. He dropped it off probably in the morning or later that afternoon.
@delaneycohenn
@delaneycohenn 6 жыл бұрын
Y'all, what if his Grandma was the only happy twin? Keep in mind the Beldam only takes those that are unhappy so it's probable that she was happy and had no clue what exactly happened to her sister.
@pashinooo
@pashinooo 3 жыл бұрын
im watching his 4 years later and its still good
@pashinooo
@pashinooo 3 жыл бұрын
this
@mr.vivachious1855
@mr.vivachious1855 5 жыл бұрын
This theory is perfect
@LeoHikari
@LeoHikari 5 жыл бұрын
I think I need to rewatch this movie.
@sarimevilla3047
@sarimevilla3047 7 жыл бұрын
Okay idk if you've noticed this (you probably have) but in the opening when the other mother makes the doll she sends it through a portal with stars, they say if you fall to the bottom of the well you can see stars in the middle of the day
@Catherine-zr2tc
@Catherine-zr2tc 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the reason the Beldam only aims for children, even though it is shown that she can get parents, is mainly because children offer more nutritional value to her than an adult would. Think of it like this. The beldam needs her pray (children or adults) as food. But she can only feast on their souls until they go rotten, (which would be until the age they would die). So the reason she goes after children is because the adults would go rotten (or die) quicker than the children would. and I know you all will probably think "doesn't the beldam kill them as soon as the buttons are on?" but if we are going with the idea that Coraline never left the other world, then doesn't that just prove that maybe she doesn't need the buttons, and that all the children would just stay in the other world, and the beldam feasts on their souls slowly until they die, without them even knowing.
@Catherine-zr2tc
@Catherine-zr2tc 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I think that it is likely that Mrs. Lovett's twin sister, also said no to the button eyes, went back to the 'real world' and it took her the 50 years to die, before the beldam needed more food. which would also explain why the beldam was fine for 50 years after getting Mrs. Lovett's twin sister, but then only a few days after Coraline finds the other world, when she tries to escape, it is a whole 'DON'T LEAVE! I'LL DIE WITHOUT YOU!!!!'. i can think of no other reason why the beldam would be fine for 50 years, but couldn't wait another few years.
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