Core i7-13700K Undervolt & Overclock to 6000 MHz With MAG Z690 Torpedo EK X | SkatterBencher #50

In today's video, I overclock the Intel Core i7-13700K Raptor Lake CPU up to 6 GHz with the EK-Mana MSI MAG Z690 Torpedo EK X motherboard and EK-Pro water cooling.
Raptor Lake processors provide a lot of room for performance tuning and overclocking, especially when paired with water cooling. By using a low-end Z690 motherboard, I hope to illustrate that this previous-generation platform can still push Raptor Lake to its limits.
That said, tuning Raptor Lake doesn't come without its own challenges. I will do my best to explain how it works, and I hope you enjoy the video.
00:00 Intro
05:44 Stock Performance
07:10 OC Strategy #1: Unleashed Turbo + XMP 3.0
14:16 OC Strategy #2: MSI Game Boost
18:20 OC Strategy #3: Turbo Ratio Offset
37:43 OC Strategy #4: Manual Finetuning
55:52 Let's Wrap Things Up
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Any questions on our overclocking, ask in the comments! If you wish to help us add subtitles to this video, please contact us via twitter @skatterbencher

[@PatRock1983]

Been waiting for this video! Kudos!

[@eclipticsight]

This is great. Probably one of the only MSI motherboard overclocking guides for 13th gen which I need because I just switched from Asus Z490 to MSI Z790. Subcribed.

[@borderreaper2833]

Nice been waiting for this one, thanks! 😊

[@AnelorGalor]

Great and comprehensive tutorial almost :) thank you !

[@Pabula]

Damn such great videos you make bro, I have learned a lot with them, thanks for sharing.

[@denios36]

An amazing video, thanks so much!

[@lucafurna]

As an Intel and MSI enthusiast I find this video superb!

[@ejectnolook6543]

Dude. You are AWESOME! You explain things very thoroughly and I greatly appreciate that.

[@ArkenShromAbuser]

Hi ! Awsome video very helpful . Can you do a undervolt video on the 13700K? 😊

[@lilytheghost7608]

Please do more of these with different motherboards. I just got the i7-13700k and would love more content regarding this cpu.❤

[@SkatterBencher]

I will try in the future but I'm doing this as a hobby so my time is pretty limited. Thanks for the kind words!

[@Foss3]

@@SkatterBencher I agree with the comment above, I would love to see overclocking informational videos that are not so bound to the motherboard. Great videos by the way!

[@soulbytes]

​@@SkatterBencher thanks for the Vid Man

[@avi8tor330]

Thank you so much for taking all the time and effort to make this video. Learned hell of a lot about my new CPU.

[@tech1m502]

best tech channel on YT

[@yosixxx]

I was having trouble getting all my pcores to boost to 5.6 with the ecores enabled even though I could manually get 5.8 all core going with static voltage and no ecores. Using VF points helped alot, thanks man!

[@branchprediction9923]

At what vcore can u run 5.8ghz all core? Mine is soo mediocre, cant run 5.7ghz all core at 1.45vcore.

[@yosixxx]

@@branchprediction9923 Pretty high, 1.51v at LLC 7 which is like 1.4v under load

[@StalwartMan]

Thank you 🥳👏

[@DustedMike]

What a great guide! Very comprehensive, professionally composed, very very informative. Just like a fast course. Thank you! Subscribed and looking forward to your future videos.

[@STEELFOX2000]

OMG .. This is the only place in the world that I found some useful information to overclock + under-volt my 14600k whit my MSi z690. Will be a mess to find the find right offset voltages.

[@benchosei9878]

My man 🙌

[@EvL--_--]

Very good video, first time here, kinda bad "talking head" production but the graphs and explanations are quite good, detailed enough for casual OC and not too indepth/nerdy for extreme OC stuff. Good job, keep it up! Here's for the algorithm! :D

[@lassekristensen385]

Trust me ! Watch a few more of his videos- even those where he says OC in 5 min... I am telling you that you will learn more than ever and anywhere else. I just took my 13900K to new heights and records by seeing a couple of his videos. Very in depth and detailed with explanation. And walktrough of BIOS settings etc. I knew a lot in advance over the 30 years- but the last few days I catch up and learned more than the last years! By seeing his videos. I dont know ANY other YT explaining it like that and actually know what they talk about! :) I am not saying your knowledge are low or anything- I dont know you- but try to check out some of the recent videos. like 13900K @ 6 ghz or KS @ 6200 .... the techniques and approach was faily unknown for me and I feel I have expert knowledge now with the latest generation of modern CPUSs :) Also my 13900K are now running 6 x x60 and 8 x x58 cores now.. something that previously was impossible (I thought! also low bin). I even today had it up and running with 8 x all core @ 6 ghz.... something I was not able to make it do two days ago! ;) haha.. That setup was pretty hot though but stable! But this was due to watching 3-4 of his videos. I am a subscriber now! :D

[@user-jq1ee6yd9x]

@@lassekristensen385can you please share your settings?

[@brandonchappell1535]

perfect !! just finished same build (although mines a KF)

[@brandonchappell1535]

Seriously the BEST guide ive ever seen in some 16yrs building PCs!! definitely my new goto !! 😉

[@iammrdoge]

Hats off to you man. Well structured, comprehensive and engaging video 🙏

[@SkatterBencher]

Thanks!

[@Sho_1337]

I always got the best using msi motherboards. Back during haswell and devil's canyon, I bought like over 20 different i7 processors. Usually got an overclock around 4.8ghz. Then I upgraded again for an i7 8700k, and got 5.2ghz on all cores. Then I went away for five years. Now I'm ready to get the new one and get back to overclockin.

[@DrMcnugget1]

I have this processor and Asrock Z690 Extreme Wifi 6e motherboard, I can't figure out the OC settings for this board. Any help would be appreciated 🙏

[@Erniebern06]

Sticking with a modest 5.7 using strategy 3. So informative and well covered. Thanks!

[@joeheath6413]

Love your videos! Question: is it possible to overclock the iGPU and maintain scenario #4 overclock? Thanks

[@SkatterBencher]

Yes, absolutely. Apart from the BCLK, the IGP and Core clocking and voltage is completely independent.

[@SIrIvanErection]

I am still quite new to all of this but can you explain why you use OverClocking Thermal Velocity Boost with the 13600k and 13900k but not this 13700k?

[@MacA60230]

Damn that's impressive! Do you think there's any perf to be squeezed out of a 13700K on a NHD15? My case has great airflow etc. but it's still just air cooling

[@SkatterBencher]

I think so yes. There's quite a bit of overclocking headroom even at the normal V/F curve, plus you can always use the V/F Point negative offset to get higher boost in all-core loads

[@tndking3921]

Just got my i7-13700k and I have a Asus ROG STRIX Z790-A MB and the Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT for my cooling solution I will be doing a custom loop once I save up enough for the i9 but I wanted to ask how far do you think I should over clock with these specs? I don't think my AIO will handle 6mhz very happily lol. I dont usually overclock so I am not super experienced into this but have done slight so I wanted to hear your opinions on what maybe I should do to get more performance outa my i7. I would like a bit more as I dont only game but also do 3d modeling adobe illustrator and am a tab horder with over 80 tabs open lol.

[@tbodziosguma5191]

Hi. Very clear guide. Can I please such guide for MSI MAG z690 Tomahawk Wifi DDR + i9 13900k?

[@refinedzero]

Hi there, I have a modest OC to 5.5ghz all P cores and 4.4ghz all E cores, I can achieve this at 1.21v, 32000 Cinebench R23 results and after OCCT stability testing and Prime over night. I don't want to increase by much more due to already being happy with the results so far, my question though is what is considered on average a safe 24/7 voltage for raptor lake? Or more specifically the 13700k Many thanks and happy new year!

[@jankees4037]

Anything till 1.32v is very fine if fixed voltage. Variable voltage (for less cores higher clocks) only go beyond that for limited time.

[@jankees4037]

Still contemplating, but I really want to change my current 5800X to a 13700K setup. So much fun to overclock Intel. And very fast.

[@armannasr3681]

how close can I follow same procedure for 13900k? Are you doing a video on that?

[@syzce6311]

Great video friend! Do you know how one could tell what the favored cores are on a 13600k? Would love to see you OC that chip as well.

[@SkatterBencher]

There are no "favored cores" on the 13600K since it doesn't have Turbo Boost Max 3.0 technology. To find the "best" cores is pretty much just manual testing. My Core i5-13600K video will be up on 29/11

[@tntgdh]

the easy way for me (in my 13700k) was setting all the voltagens as in the video, then allowing all the cores to boost to 6 ghz. downloaded OCCT and run stress test in one core a time. for me cores 0, 1 and 4 can´t handle 6ghz. the other five are all good.

[@revolutionking1614]

Hi i would love to know if you recomend this oc for gaming only and does it make sense to only do this oc most on the p cores and less on e cores for less heat? Because if i dont do multithreaded workloads only game there is not that many games that use 16 cores? Your vids are amazing to learn Thanks congrats on the worldrecord

[@jameselrick6698]

At 6ghz it would not be necessary as the performance for most games would be minimal at best. But not enough for the constant power draw that would be needed for your cpu. Best undervolting your cpu instead for lower power pull, then OC your gpu for more drastic results in games.

[@dardo1201]

If you want to oc your processor, i’d advise going for the third strategy (or use an auto oc and then try tweaking the settings manually).

[@3LbR]

Hola! tengo el mismo CPU, pero con una Z790 Aorus Master, me sirve la guía?

[@J4N3K__]

im a bit confused but where u get to 6ghz??? i see the end result at 5.3-5.4ghz... isnt that whats its supposed to run on stock?

[@SkatterBencher]

My overclock will run 6 GHz up to 4 active P-cores and up to 5.7 GHz with all P-cores active, as long as the CPU temperature is below 100C (TjMax). If the temperature is above TjMax, then the frequency will be further reduced automatically by the CPU.

[@alsteooaai]

hi, can you recommend the most reliable magazine/reviewer for motherboard reviews? (if possible I would need reviews very focused on ram overclocking with precise tests)

[@SkatterBencher]

I don't read that many reviews, so I don't feel comfortable making a recommendation. However, I would say that Buildzoid has been doing a pretty solid job lately detailing the challenges (and solutions) for memory tuning. I often check his content for memory overclocking information.

[@alsteooaai]

@@SkatterBencher ok thanks, last thing, if i overclock the gpu, will the compression/encoding performance increase?

[@Wam7]

@@alsteooaai It depends what you are using for that compression encoding as you can either use CPU or GPU depending on the encoder. If using GPU then overclocking the GPU will improve things but not massively so.

[@alsteooaai]

@@Wam7 okay, and are there other things besides OC that can improve compression and decompression? I am interested in this on the iGPU of the laptop because I run the desktop PC on screen (which processes and sends the video signal to the laptop, such as streaming or Cloud gaming) and I would prefer to have an iGPU that processes that video better (also because having a good GPU on the Fixed PC I often also play on the laptop in 2800x1900 at 160/200 fps, so not really a little)

[@FLAMINeu]

I am new into OC and I've got a 13700k and a Z690 MSI Tomahawk, but if I use the same configuration you just used the system just goes in BSOD loop before even loading Windows... does it mean my CPU is broken? Cooled with an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360

[@SkatterBencher]

No, it likely means that your CPU is not capable of the same overclock as the one I showed here. Which OC Strategy are you following?

[@vlad.andriienko]

Hello, could you please answer me on one question? Do I have to care about hwinfo's package throttle or core throttle when the temps are below 95 in Prime95 small ffts?

[@SkatterBencher]

There are many throttling mechanisms inside your CPU, so it's possible the CPU throttles for another reason than over-temperature. I think HWiNFO has more detailed information on what is causing the performance throttling, so you can check that.

[@vlad.andriienko]

@@SkatterBencher Thank you. Could you please give an advice how to make 13700k work stable (undervolt)? I don’t need any overclock, I just need this work good without throttle and crashes. I have 360 aio. It’s just not okay to have crashes in stock CPU. What’s the best way to do that? Thank you for your job.

[@SkatterBencher]

OC Strategy #4 of this video includes undervolting. It starts from here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDTgqWugJqSpLc

[@Toddak]

Would be appreciated if you could do video overclocking a 7950x on an ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero, See if I can get the same results as you. Appreciate your videos 😁

[@AdmrlSpeedy]

When you do the turbo ratio offset, I don't understand why your average AVX clock is only 4900 MHz when you didn't set an AVX offset. Should it not be trying to run at 5800 MHz (which I know would be impossible to get stable). Also, why you always recommend turning off TVB for the 13700K? Out of the box it doesn't even use TVB, the temp table is all 0s and it only actually does anything if you configure it yourself.

[@takemyname4363]

Very good video. How do you find out which p core is better or worse than others?

[@SkatterBencher]

Manual testing is the only way

[@takemyname4363]

@@SkatterBencher Okay, by increasing the frequency of all cores and then checking which one gets the hottest?

[@SkatterBencher]

No, increasing the frequency and checking which gets unstable :)

[@ashryver3605]

holy moly there are so many more options to control nowadays vs. z97 devils canyon..

[@copylepht]

How to you determine which cores can clock higher than others? Also what do you consider stable? Just completing your benchmark suite?

[@SkatterBencher]

Determining which cores can clock higher: set Turbo Ratios from 1- to 8-Active Cores to the same (e.g. 60X), set Per Core Ratio Limit for each core to 60X, set adaptive voltage, go in OS and run either CoreCycler or Prime95 non-AVX with affinity to 1 core. Then check which are stable and which aren't. Finally decision on stability is (1) pass entire benchmark suite back-to-back, (2) pass 30min Prime95 small FTTs non-AVX, and (3) pass 30min Prime95 small FFTs AVX. Usually it's one of the benchmarks that is proving most difficult to pass, like AI Benchmark.

[@copylepht]

@@SkatterBencher Thanks for the info!

[@tntgdh]

the easy way for me (in my 13700k) was setting all the voltagens as in the video, then allowing all the cores to boost to 6 ghz. downloaded OCCT and run stress test in one core a time. for me cores 0, 1 and 4 can´t handle 6ghz. the other five are all good.

[@joeheath6413]

Awesome videos!! Would you be inclined to make a video on the 13700(non K model)? Thanks

[@SkatterBencher]

I tend to stick with overclockable hardware, which for Intel means K-SKUs. So highly unlikely I will check out the non-K. The only time I checked out non-K was with Alder Lake when there was non-K BCLK overclocking :)

[@tylersk8s_bama]

Maybe a dumb question but im new to this. Will this work with a mpg z790 edge wifi ddr5 ? For gaming

[@SkatterBencher]

The overclocking process will be very similar but of course your results may differ since every chip clocks differently.

[@tylersk8s_bama]

@@SkatterBencher I'm building with an i7-13700k also

[@evanwarren3021]

Should we be worried about temps on the 13700K / KF getting to about 105 C consistently?

[@brodymiller9299]

105 C is above what intel rates them for. There is probably something wrong though, since it should start throttling to stay at or below 100C if you haven't changed that setting.

[@omkazn]

I set the turbo offsite ratio to +5 but when I check hwinfo it shows I am only boosting to 5.8ghz in my pcore but machine runs stable, any idea why it’s not going to 5.9? Did everything else in OC#3!

[@SkatterBencher]

59X will only apply when up to 2 P-cores are active. You can try running a benchmark like SuperPI with affinity to a specific core and check if it boosts up to 5.9G then

[@marcosimone5500]

Hi, how long You tested CPU in Prime95?

[@SkatterBencher]

The standard length of Prime95 stability test in my guides is 30 minutes.

[@williamhubel]

Can I use the same settings on a strix motherboard?

[@SkatterBencher]

The overclocking process will be similar across most Z690/Z790 motherboards, however the optimal settings for each system will be different. I usually don't recommend copying the settings from a video and applying directly to your system.

[@DeeboDeeJay]

isnt it better to have a higher all core under load frequency? than worry about turbo boosting to 6ghz for desktop scenarios? if your locked in at say 5.6 under load at a good temperature and reasonably voltage, and stable, isnt that better for nearly all scenarios when the system is working hard? ie any rendering or gaming...? all of his scenarios have the cpu cores dropping to waht 5.1 or 5.2ghz max under load? ]

[@SkatterBencher]

With Turbo Ratio configuration, you can tune for all scenarios and your CPU will adapt performance accordingly. For example: Light few-core workload? 6G @ 70C Light multi-core workload? 5.8G @ 80C Heavy multi-core workload? 5.6G @ 95C Extreme multi-core workload? 5.3G @ 100C Instead of: Light few-core workload? 5.6G @ 70C Light multi-core workload? 5.6G @ 80C Heavy multi-core workload? 5.6G @ 95C Extreme multi-core workload? 5.3G @ 100C

[@yosixxx]

I used your VF voltage offsets and boosted two active cores to 6ghz and the rest to 5.7 for all values using LLC7 and cpu lite load 1 on an MSI pro-a and it pulls like 1.38v during load and the voltage allowed me to bring the cache up to 5.0 in total getting me 5% better gaming performance in the low percentiles and averages than my previous overclock/ram tuning, probably 10-20% better than stock in total.

[@ItsThicc]

This is great, I just wish you used a gigabyte z790 board for this.

[@SkatterBencher]

I have also used a GIGABYTE Z790 board, but with the 13900K instead of the 13700K kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5THo36QZayJqJo

[@masterwayne9790]

I'm trying to build a 13600K build with MSI Pro Z690-A Wifi motherboard as it supports both DDR4 & DDR5. But the MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk Wifi has better VRM than this but lacks DDR5 support Which one should I pick? Is DDR5 going to be a main thing in future?

[@SkatterBencher]

I'm a technology enthusiasts, so I'd go DDR5. I think it also makes more sense now than it did a year ago for non-enthusiasts to prefer DDR5

[@Wam7]

You either have it wrong or have written it wrong. The MSI Z690 Pro-A has two variants, one DDR4 the other DDR5. The same motherboard can not support both DDR4 and DDR5 at the same time. The same is true for the MSI MAG Z690, there are two variants, the one that supports DDR4 and the DDR5 one.

[@masterwayne9790]

@@Wam7 later found it & chose DDR4

[@leoh3319]

when will 13900k OC video come out ?? I'm so excited

[@SkatterBencher]

I'm still working on the script, so not sooner than a week but (hopefully) not later than two weeks

[@leoh3319]

@@SkatterBencher awesome, looking forward to it! While I have you, can I have your thoughts on ai mobo overclocking?

[@SkatterBencher]

I've used AI OC as an OC Strategy since SkatterBencher #10 with 10900K and always found it to be a legitimate way for quick overclocking. For Raptor Lake, I've only tried it with 13600K. As I said my friends at ROG, I was extremely impressed with this generation's automatic tuning and performance uplift.

[@seanchu9139]

@52:03 should follow the configurations you name, instead of the ones illustrated right? @54:21 my MSI Z790 edge states x59 instead of x54 or x60. Does that mean that i can only configure x59 as max? because BIOS wouldn't know what voltage to give x60, correct?

[@seanchu9139]

oh I see I understand 52:03 now, it means the same thing I also got my Advanced offset to show x60

[@warzone_clout]

did you get a fix for this? I am having the same issue. I set all of mine to 60 and then when I go to "set voltage offset when running CPU Ratio 59" (as I do not have a "...CPU Ratio 60")

[@warzone_clout]

I ended up setting the settings that you told us to set (not what was shown on the screen, and it seems stable)...however it did not raise my performance in Timespy Ext at all

[@talessin]

how you manage what core is best to set at 6ghz?

[@SkatterBencher]

Manual testing

[@talessin]

@@SkatterBencher I mean what tool. I can't test all cores in same time with small FFT in OCCT/prime cause thermals. Trying found what case problem using only 4 cores in same time to avoid throttling but maybe there is another way?

[@BoredErica]

For i5, my understanding is Intel does not mark best cores. I assume you'll talk about how to quickly find the best/worst cores in future? Sorry if I missed it and it's in the video already. Thanks for the guide. Oh yeah, also: As Buildzoid says (and also in my experience), any load on each core no matter how light triggers all core freq. So even in a game dominated by single core perf, 1/2/3/4 core boosts seem to rarely kick in... I got 5.72ghz on my 13600kf and what crashed me was opening Minecraft because it hits all cores very hard for few seconds. I had to decreased power limit and increase voltage when my primary concern is single core perf.

[@SkatterBencher]

I do this so often that I forget checking which cores clocks the best is not a trivial part of the overclocking process. I'll try to find a way to include it in the future. As for your 13600KF, what I suspect is happening is that Minecraft may be using AVX. If yes, that makes tuning a little more complicated on Raptor Lake. While there is an AVX negative ratio offset option available, the offset is not always triggered. If it's not triggered, then the only way to finetune is increase voltage (enerally, AVX requires slightly higher voltages than SSE for the same frequency) or drop the ratio.

[@BoredErica]

@@SkatterBencher Thanks for the reply. I think it does use AVX, but does not trip AVX offset. Makes it tricky to OC for.

[@SkatterBencher]

A similar workload that does this is Cinebench R23. Does your OC pass the 10/30-minute stress test?

[@BoredErica]

@@SkatterBencher 5.65-5.6ghz is stable at 1.35v @ 130w limit. 5.7-5.72ghz stable at 1.39v @ 140w limit w/ 13600kf. Temp limit at 80C. I tried to use temps/power limit to downclock more aggressively on all core so I can get more single thread. I do need to find best cores, because merely setting 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 p core active core ratio doesn't work for me (crashes).

[@toonnut1]

Where can you find the favourite p core's?

[@SkatterBencher]

It's indicated in most BIOSes and you can also seem them marked with a star in Intel XTU. Alternatively, in HWiNFO you can just look for the cores that boost higher than the others.

[@toonnut1]

@SkatterBencher thanks very much my friend

[@robsamp]

The issue is that the VF point is not working as it should... LOL

[@serkan4370]

will there be 5 minutes overclock video guide?😊

[@SkatterBencher]

Yes, those are already scheduled to release sometime this month

[@serkan4370]

@@SkatterBencher thank you so much

[@gin21zkato]

I dont have in Z790 BCLK 100MHZ Lock ON there is something else and cant be disabled :)

[@user-pb2uo4gn6y]

Can't convince my Gigabyte gaming X to work with v/f offset for 13700k on 58x2 56x4 55x8 I put it into selection offset mode (v/f curve) and see stock 1-9 fused points and 10, 11 additional points if I put any offset on points 9, 10 or 11 it applies it to the entire curve For example, without offset my mb defaults to 1.330v, I put +100mv offset on point 11 and on any load (5.0, 5.2, 5.7 ghz or higher) i get ~1.3-1.4v. If I put negative offset on corresponding points, it doen't work. still 1.3-1.4v Tried leaving other v/f points in auto, tried setting them on 0 offset. Tried leaving vcore on auto, putting it on normal, setting specific voltage... no difference... What do I do wrong here?

[@SkatterBencher]

It sounds like there are motherboard auto-rules that are interfering with your V/F configuration. Did you check if the AC LL, DC LL, or VRM LLC change when you make manual adjustments in the BIOS?

[@user-pb2uo4gn6y]

​@@SkatterBencher To be honest, I don't really know how to check. All LL stuff on auto, and board doesn't show numbers behind it. I only changed LLC, put it on medium... Another thing I found out: in "adaptive voltage" board makes you choose between "legacy" (offset) and "select" (v/f curve) but for some reason applies both to the core voltage... Maybe I shoud wait for the next bios version?

[@MasterGGG]

Can you please do the 13900K Asus Ai OC, your videos are the best for OCers.

[@SkatterBencher]

Next up is the 13600K + ROG Strix, and I'm about to commence 13900K + Delta TEC + Apex :)

[@MasterGGG]

@@SkatterBencher Awesome, cant wait!

[@FlanK3rCZ]

Again great video Massman, what I only not understand, why here is not CPU boosting to 5700 MHz by BIOS VF inputs kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDTgqWugJqSpLc (AVX disabled)

[@SkatterBencher]

Due to TjMax thermal throttling. I point out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDTgqWugJqSpLc that on this BIOS, VF9/10/11 are all programmed the same even though VF9 and VF11 should be different. The result is that for ratios 54X to 60X the voltage configured is the same (+100mV, or 1.426V). When Prime95 loads 57X at 1.426V ... it will immediately throttle.

[@ferenclippai1059]

what a golden chip, runs 6ghz@1.425... Mine runs 5.9 on 1.425 but doesn't even run 6ghz@1.71v ... :/

[@andnukem]

That water temp delta over ambient is way too high. Yikes.

[@SkatterBencher]

What makes you say that? (genuinely curious, I never thought of it as a problem)

[@MsFearco]

Again, AVG freq is 5.3k, you haven't reached 6k anytime during the tests. Minimum frequency is 4.6k, man thats very low... all core 5.5k is much better than this.

[@toonnut1]

I'm not comfortable letting my 13900kf go to 100°

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

Me neither. That's why I use Prime 95 small FFT AVX for initial stability screening only. Prime 95 blend non-AVX is more realistic. I let this grind for hours. Many other realistic tests are available: Cinebench, Blender, et al. And of course your own application software. For me, it's Photoshop, LAME, and 7zip.

[@ArkenShromAbuser]

Undervolting is the key 😊👌

[@SkatterBencher]

The TjMax is user-configurable, so you can limit the maximum temperature to your preference with 1 setting in the BIOS :)

[@APARAT79]

Your stock performances are very bad. I get aloth better results with my i7 13700k with stock settings in all those benchmarks. For example, your Cinebench R23 multicore results with stock settings are 29,853. I get over 30,900 points with stock settings and my friend who also has i7 13700k gets around 30,800 points.

[@SkatterBencher]

I presume your motherboard is unleashing the Turbo Boost 2.0 power limits by default? My stock results are with default turbo boot parameters. In OC Strategy #1, I unleash turbo and then the score is ~30.5K

[@APARAT79]

@@SkatterBencher I have ASUS motherboard. And i have set ASUS Multicore Enhancement to DISABLED (by default is on AUTO) so that limits power draw to 253W. I quess that DRR5 RAM makes that difference? I have DDR5 6000MT/s RAM.

[@SkatterBencher]

that could very well be!

[@stevensv4864]

bullshit, if you cant run cinebench with that oc is bullshit

[@impuls60]

Fake 2 cores oc'ing is useless and misleading for most people. I'd like to see ALL core oc for daily usage instead. E cores and cache speed oc is also interesting and has some practical benefits for real world usage. Max cache speed without e-cores is also very useful for FPS games. Ecores makes hitregs in FPS games highly unreliable and the TTK feels longer. This is because the physical ringbus is longer with the ecores on so the latency is worse. This has a huge effect on how the FPS games feel.

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

It's a single-threaded world. The vast majority of interactive computer use scenarios are single active thread.

[@techsshadow3929]

@@MrKentaroMotoPI I'd agree with you a few years back but this is frankly no longer the case.

[@SlimedogNumbaSixty9]

Did you not watch video? That's a 5.7ghz all-core OC with 6.0ghz in burst workload, probably 5.8ghz in most games!

[@SixDasher]

Uses a $600-800 mobo and then says "you don't need an expensive board".

[@SkatterBencher]

The MAG Z690 Torpedo EK X is $276 now www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-mana-msi-mag-z690-torpedo-ek-x-d-rgb

[@seanchu9139]

I tried offset +5 on my 13700k with 1.40 to 1.40V (adaptive) cannot run Cinebench r23 at all🥲

[@cptnsx]

He has a good chip and is on water cooling. Most all 13700K can do 5.7 with that voltage - try that offset +3. Then try 5.8.