Core i5-13600K Overclocked to 6200 MHz With ROG Strix Z790-A D4 | SkatterBencher #51

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In today's video, I overclock the Intel Core i5-13600K Raptor Lake CPU up to 6.2 GHz with the ASUS ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WiFi D4 motherboard and EK-Quantum water cooling.
As everyone knows by now, Raptor Lake processors provide a lot of room for performance tuning and overclocking, especially when paired with water cooling. By pairing the Core i5 with a Z790 DDR4 motherboard, I hope to illustrate that you don't need high-performance DDR5 memory to squeeze significantly more performance out of your Raptor Lake CPU.
I hope you enjoy the video.
00:00 Intro
03:54 Stock Performance
06:04 OC Strategy #1: Unleashed Turbo Boost 2.0 + XMP 2.0
11:08 OC Strategy #2: ASUS AI Overclocking
16:18 OC Strategy #3: Manual Overclock
39:15 OC Strategy #4: OCTVB
53:14 Let's Wrap Things Up
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@wraith6766
@wraith6766 Жыл бұрын
Top content, been overclocking for 20 years and this would have to be the highest quality of information i have come across. Thank you for your effort.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@sagerdood
@sagerdood Жыл бұрын
Oh no doubt... best anywhere... taught me so much even with 20 years experience
@aagm.
@aagm. Жыл бұрын
Lots of info to sink my teeth into here, many thanks for such a fantastic resource. Previous videos helped me to OC my 10th gen on z490 some years back, knew instinctively to revisit your channel after completing my new build. Cheers
@BlackSteelz1
@BlackSteelz1 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation and detail. Keep up the good work.
@mrmogelost6720
@mrmogelost6720 Жыл бұрын
Exceptional video for any enthusiast that wants to learn more about overclocking. Literally can't find anyone else with similar explanatory content. Great work
@lucafurna
@lucafurna Жыл бұрын
SkatterBencher's determination on providing precise details and his perseverance in following a strategy is making him the best OC KZbinr around! I'd be curious to see Core i7-13700K on the ROG Strix Z790 and the Core i5-13600K on the MAG Z690 Torpedo.
@vizushu
@vizushu Жыл бұрын
Im following this! I want to OC my Core i5-13600K on the MAG Z690 Torpedo
@danr97123
@danr97123 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation with impressive technical depth!
@pepe8196
@pepe8196 Жыл бұрын
Most thorough and explanatory video I've seen. I've been having trouble navigating the Asus Prime z790-a bios
@Nuwanv01
@Nuwanv01 Жыл бұрын
The explanations and theory behind some of the setting as very vell done. Really appriciate this video and thakyou for helping us get the most out of 13th gen Intel cups.
@JuanDiaz-jo1rw
@JuanDiaz-jo1rw Жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have found so far on the internet. Im picking up the i5 13600k. I just learned how to overclock, but this is a lot of detail. I'm glad to know the i5 will last a long time. And it's almost on par with higher CPUs.
@hryhorii24
@hryhorii24 7 ай бұрын
You did a great job with that overlocking explanation. Many thanks! ❤
@tech1m502
@tech1m502 11 ай бұрын
Skatterbencher is a true mastermind when it comes to overclocking!!
@LegionGamingTV
@LegionGamingTV Жыл бұрын
This is probably the best generation of Cpus I’ve seen in a long time. I switched from AMD because the have almost no headroom.. I had a 5800x that clocked to 4.95 all core for gaming, but that was really rare. This makes oc fun again
@MrMantenedor
@MrMantenedor Жыл бұрын
Good evening SkatterBencher, I've been following your videos for some time and I tried to adjust the BIOS of the Asus z690 x i5-13600k. Because I have the same setup, but the core of my stock cpu already remains at 1.27 volts. So at the time of adjusting the voltage that should be close to 1.17 volts was 10 volts above the setting of your setup. I tried running an undervolt but I couldn't keep the voltage below 1435 volts at 6.2 GHZ. Unhappy in the selection of silicon!
@ElvisKombic
@ElvisKombic Жыл бұрын
I don't know but you deserve more subscribers.. Cheers
@IIHydraII
@IIHydraII 2 ай бұрын
I'm impressed with how well AI OC has worked for me on my 13600k!
@pixelslayertv7140
@pixelslayertv7140 Жыл бұрын
i did the same thing. but my cpu voltage went up to 1.57V in the Bios. Befor chaning it was 1.315V in the Bios an 1.3 in Windows . I dont get why the voltage is soo high
@Nods.O
@Nods.O Жыл бұрын
Can anyone help my vcore is changing to gigabyte motherboard default after putting windows to sleep. After sleeping its putting up to 1.43 into my 13700k
@Charzboi10575
@Charzboi10575 10 ай бұрын
Hi, i can only get mine to 5.4 ghz max. I have a motherboard thats similar (16+1+1 vrms) and i can only get 5.4ghz (AIO). Do i need liquid meta to avhieve 6.2? Thanks
@errr9408
@errr9408 Жыл бұрын
13600k SP96 is a good bin? What vcore can I aim for with sp96 and pcore5.2/ecore4.0? Glacier 240 aio on this CPU
@Izzy-the-equestrian632
@Izzy-the-equestrian632 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the 13900k on ASU’s strix gaming Wi-Fi E. great guides, thank you for your great work
@mattchubb2505
@mattchubb2505 Жыл бұрын
What ram would you pair with this board for a 13700k and gaming, editing uses?
@Kemyo0
@Kemyo0 Жыл бұрын
Hello, First I'd like to thank you for this great guide, it was very detailed. Unfortunately I haven't been able to reproduce the advanced steps as I don't have the same setup : deepcoop ak620 and Asus prime z790m plus D4. I am currently able to have xmp 2 remove all limits mce and 5600 on p cores 3900 e cores , with oc tuner 2 However I am only trying to max the overclocl for a single game being very CPU intensive and mostly single core. Should I reduce the other p cores speed and have bigger speed on one p core? I use process lasso to define CPU affinity for the game but I'm not sure if it does anything Thanks for everything !
@oz2451
@oz2451 Жыл бұрын
Can I use these settings on asus prime z790 - A motherboard? I have the same cpu i5 13600k? And also you averaged 100 degrees on full load, is that not insanely high temperature?
@fuchnorris6277
@fuchnorris6277 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@Rahul-fs4iq
@Rahul-fs4iq 7 ай бұрын
Would appreciate a similar video on 14600k ( i have a 240mm aio how far can i go?)
@ronmor8237
@ronmor8237 Жыл бұрын
I built a 13900k machine once the chip came out and for some reason it uses way more voltage than yours on stock setup. I can overclock it to 5.3 all cores at 1.325 volts.....however trying 5.5 or 5.6 at 1.4 volts will make it crash at r23
@sten32144
@sten32144 Жыл бұрын
Hi pal, what a great video! But i think i am missing 1 point here, if my memory is DDr4-3200, should i keep 100 bclk and make 56 (for example) or go 112 bclk with 50 ratio? Thanks!
@Nuwanv01
@Nuwanv01 Жыл бұрын
The reason that you get a K processor is to keep the BCLK locked 100 for stability and work with the multiplier
@Eurypsi
@Eurypsi 2 ай бұрын
I got 7000 mhz on my i5 13600kf with 6000 mhz ram is this normal? (DDR5)
@Wolfiecolada
@Wolfiecolada Жыл бұрын
i have a new system, i5 13600k, gskill 6400 16x2, kingston fury rampage m.2.....my cinebench is like 21k's. any reason this might be? i have an asus z790 rog board ddr5, a.i. oc crashes every time =( =( =( arctic 280 liquid cooler. A.I. oc always crashes =(
@user-gz6jb9zn5u
@user-gz6jb9zn5u Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Been trying to play around with mine (13600k + Z790 tomahawk ddr5). Even though I set Max Turbo Ratio for when 2 P-cores are active to 5.7ghz, in reality though, most of the time current usage in HWInfo shows 5.3-5.4ghz (Max Turbo boost when all 4-6 cores are active). So when does the CPU take advantage of the 2-Core-Active boost of 5.7ghz? games? And what's the point of the Per-Core-Clock settings if the active core ratio settings already have a clock down depending on core usage? Thanks!
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
There aren't that many applications that will use only 1 or 2 P-cores these days, so definitely in the real world you'll mostly see the frequency tied to 4-6c configuration. The point of Per Core Ratio Limit is that you can prevent the weak cores from hitting the high Turbo Ratios you've configured. Let's say you set 1/2-Active Core to 57X but only 3 out of the 6 P-Cores can hit 5.7G stably. If you don't set Per Core Ratio Limit for those unstable cores, the system will be unstable when the OS inevitably at one point sets 57X in a 1/2-Active core situation.
@AngeloNguyen
@AngeloNguyen Жыл бұрын
So I guess it's not considered extreme to run light single threaded loads at 1.499mv long term? I have my vcore maxed at 1.45v at idle, so my 13600k is limited to a single core at 6.0 ghz. (Although that lone pcore will do p95 6.0 ghz when it's the only active pcore, rest wouldnt load windows past 5.9). I'd like to try setting the adaptive vcore to 1.499v get but I don't know enough about voltage tolerance. Anyone have any thoughts?
@AngeloNguyen
@AngeloNguyen Жыл бұрын
Found the answer in the comments below: 1.45 to 1.525 as some i9's are pushing 58x at 1.5v+ under warranty out of the box. It seems the overclocking spread is a smidgen tighter between the i9 and i5 this generation. 🤔 could've sworn last generation the i5 wasn't this close to the 12900ks.
@revio000
@revio000 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend 13900k over 13700k in terms of overclock performance? Or is the 13700k capable of achieving same sort of speeds but with less cores? Or is it purely down to bin luck?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Generally speaking, Intel is very good at binning their chips. So you can assume i9 > i7 > i5 in terms of maximum stable P-core frequency. That said, a golden i5 will clock better than a poor i9. So there's still an element of luck associated with it. As for overclocking fun: I'd say the i7 and i5 was more fun to overclock because there's so much P-core headroom compared to the i9 which is pushed quite hard out of the box.
@aliniordan1166
@aliniordan1166 Жыл бұрын
Any undervolting guides for this cpu?
@kspense
@kspense Жыл бұрын
I have a 13600K and a B660-I. I think Asus nerfed this BIOS because I can't find any of the same options to input a negative voltage offset. I'm dealing with throttling and high temps in a SFF build and I want reduce the voltage. Do you have any knowledge of the B660? Why would the BIOS settings related to global things like power limit and CPU/Cache Core voltage be so different?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I don't have much experience with the B660, so I can't give you an exact answer. But it kind of sounds like the B660 motherboard locks the OC Mailbox which is used for configuring your CPU. I would suggest this video to get a better sense of what it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGeriHyrhqqVj5Y Without access to the OC Mailbox, you can't set a lot of the voltage/frequency tuning (although some items are still available). I'm not sure which are available and which not but that might be why you're seeing fewer options.
@mam630
@mam630 6 ай бұрын
My head is spinning 🤯
@mattskiiau
@mattskiiau Жыл бұрын
Does the Z790-A Gaming WiFi D4 use DIE SENSE? The Z690 version of this board only had socket sense
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
All Strix use die sense except ITX
@tqracing
@tqracing Жыл бұрын
How do you get such low voltages? Doesn't make sense to me. You even set the adaptive voltage to 1.475, but get an average voltage ~1.2V... yet temperatures would indicate a significantly higher voltage. Is HWInfo reading the sensors correctly?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
The adaptive voltage maps to the "OC Ratio" which is the highest configured ratio for my CPU. In the final OC Strategy that's 62X. The voltages for 52X to 61X are interpolated between the "OC Ratio" and the next V/F point which is 51X. So, the 1.475V only applies to 62X; for any ratio lower than 62X the voltage will never be 1.475V. For my Prime95, since it's a really heavy workload the limitation is the "TjMax" or maximum temperature. The CPU will automatically adjust the CPU frequency and associated voltage such that it does not exceed TjMax. In my OCs I use 90C or 100C for TjMax.
@rodrigopina2546
@rodrigopina2546 Жыл бұрын
Let's see if my chip is any good, I was unaware how stuff worked before, so I was just running a static 5.4GHz on all P cores and 4.3GHz on all E cores @ 1.26V. The E core frequencies are bonkers already, but I wanna see how far I can get the P cores to with V/F curves and per core usage ratios.
@rodrigopina2546
@rodrigopina2546 Жыл бұрын
Update #1: I tried the Manual OC strategy (because my TUF Z690 doesn't have AI OC :\) and I was able to dial Skatter's settings while being stable, but my cooling isn't enough to maintain it, scoring a lower multi-core score then my static manual OC. Time for more tweaking!
@frostraven23
@frostraven23 Жыл бұрын
Ooh nice. I'm on 5.2Ghz on P Cores and 4.0Ghz E cores at 1.14v static for all. Highest I've managed so far without pushing was 5.4(+1 to 2 cores) GHz for P Cores and 4.2Ghz for E Cores all static at 1.18v.
@TurboD16z6
@TurboD16z6 Жыл бұрын
So 13600 can go higher than 13700 or was it because of heat limitations. Also we don't have Asus ai oc. So there for it's over?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
This particular 13600K was pretty good while I think the 13700K was just regular. Furthermore, I used OCTVB to achieve slightly higher frequency for the 13600K while I didn't for the 13700K.
@AR-ke8wg
@AR-ke8wg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed video. What was your conclusion about Asus AiOC ? Acceptable temps etc?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
For 13th gen, I find AI OC surprisingly good. I particularly like that it incorporates OCTVB settings so you get extra performance in lighter workloads as well. As for temperature: when you enable AI OC, it also enables Package Temperature Threshold which limits the maximum temperature to 90 degrees. If that's still too high, you can also set a custom temperature.
@AR-ke8wg
@AR-ke8wg Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher thanks for the info. A good follow up video topic is Aioc vs more complex manual OC. Temps, performance differences. Thx
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
That comparison is in this video :) I have one OC Strategy with AI OC and two OC Strategies with increasingly complex manual overclocks.
@AR-ke8wg
@AR-ke8wg Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher yes but a final conclusion comparing all the strategies with results.... for example a quick ai OC got me 85% of the gains that I got from complex manual OC with these temps etc. Then Make a final recommendation. I did appreciate all the detail, very informative. Thx
@TheShepherdsPath
@TheShepherdsPath Жыл бұрын
Hey I highly appreciate your videos! Do you think you could do a video on 6700xt overclocking? No matter what I cant find a way to do 2870-2900mhz stabily even tho it is completely stable I haft to set my max freq to 2950mhz which in most games makes the gpu core spike up to 2950 which always crashes. The stable method I can do is at best 2800-2830mhz with max freq at 2905mhz. I am also having issues where my monitor will start flashing every other minute while watching youtube, people online said its a driver thing where your memory clock goes to idle and thats where it starts to flash. I see nothing on how to disable idle memory frequencys.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I'm not planning to return to RX 6000 series any time soon, but I did a video on the 6500XT a while back that should be similar to the 6700xt kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIXHp5l-fKh3h7c. I found that to get stability at higher frequency it was also necessary to tune the minimum frequency. Not sure about the memory flashing, it's not an issue I'm familiar with.
@oktc68
@oktc68 Жыл бұрын
How much difference if any would the mobo make? Could similar results be had using a similar spec Z690? Thanks
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Main difference between motherboards are (1) the VRM and (2) BIOS support. Good overclocking motherboards will have a decent VRM to deliver the power to the CPU. I think most Z690 will be able to handle the 13600K, but not all will handle a fully overclocked 13900K. BIOS is a different story as there's two aspects to this. The first aspect is that you need the BIOS team to implement all the overclocking tools that are available from Intel. That's not always the case and missing BIOS items might make tuning more difficult. Then there's also the BIOS auto-rules which help make overclocking easy. Some motherboards have easy rules which make overclocking very easy and some boards have almost no rules which makes overclocking tricky.
@AngeloNguyen
@AngeloNguyen Жыл бұрын
Hey Pieter, I have spent another 5-6 days researching, and have ended up with a cinebench R23 score of 2385 SC/ 27009 MC! 6.0, 5.9, 6.0, 6.0, 6.1, 6.1 @ 1.472vcore peak Get... 5.8/4.3 all core in CB r23 (when I have the thermal headroom... 5.7/4.3 typically :D)... Thanks for all the help. Let's hope our theory about voltages over 1.45 hold up and I can finally be done with this over clock until I replace this computer! Also, next time, I may just pay the Asus tax, for AI overclock, SP rating, etc.... My MSI z790 Tomahawk's original bios set the voltage for OC ratios to static... Everything 5.1x to 6.1x same voltage... Why? I'm glad they fixed it, but whew.... That's what I get for going against my fan boy nature! Thanks for all the work that you do, and all the headaches you save us from. Your V/F curves and charts were absolutely helpful. Good luck to everyone else in their OC adventure.
@AngeloNguyen
@AngeloNguyen Жыл бұрын
Also, this is just a theory, but I would venture a guess that the reason we only get 2 points of control for our V/F curve (OC ratio, and 5.1x) is that Intel wants enthusiasts to pay for the CPU's that have those points fused... Why give us a CPU with as much headroom as the 13600k, and make it easy to overclock? Make it so complicated that people resign themselves to 13900ks's just to get 6.0Ghz easy peasy. Make us spend all day playing with AC/DC/LLC just to get the voltages just right, lmao!
@metromelvin
@metromelvin Жыл бұрын
@josephscarborough23
@josephscarborough23 6 ай бұрын
I’ve seen 6.2ghz with ai oc but can’t manage a stable manual oc any ideas
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher 6 ай бұрын
AI OC leverages OCTVB to increase the frequency when the temperature is significantly below the maximum temperature. If you don't take that into account when trying to set up a similar manual overclock, it will likely be unstable. You can check the configuration by first loading AI OC, save and reboot, then go into the BIOS and check the TVB menu. There you'll see what the AI OC frequency is at higher temperatures.
@aavavertu229
@aavavertu229 Жыл бұрын
What seems to be the concensus on maximum safe voltages for a 13600k?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Under all-core load - whatever your thermal solution can cope with. for light workload boost - 1.45 to 1.525 (there are Core i9s with 1.5V+ VID for 58X), or whatever you're comfortable with.
@aavavertu229
@aavavertu229 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will have to do some thermal testing.
@Topuzzz
@Topuzzz Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher How confident are you about this? There have been several reports of 13900Ks degrading in a matter of several days running heavy all core workloads with voltages as low as 1.3V. I've followed your guide and successfully overclocked my 13600K to 60/60/59/59/58/58 but I'm worried the chip could die very quickly.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Pretty confident since the V/F curve of the Core i9 doesn't lie. I've seen several i9s with VID for 58X at 1.5V+ and the E-core V/F point for 43X (max ratio) above 1.35V. Running those voltages for VccIA within the thermal budget is warranted specification.
@dimka11ggg
@dimka11ggg Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get 6.2 GHz at all cores under avx load?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Depends on your cooling :)
@MrFarshig
@MrFarshig Жыл бұрын
no
@dimka11ggg
@dimka11ggg Жыл бұрын
@@MrFarshig why? Thermal conductivity reason?
@oynamalan
@oynamalan Жыл бұрын
SP98 is a good score for 13600k . I have only SP77 on my 13600KF :/
@srenlarsen3148
@srenlarsen3148 8 ай бұрын
11 month later and 14 th gen is going for volt 1.35 and XMP not 2.0 but 3.0 now. And not DDR4 but DDR5 and 7800-8000 mhz but in real world max 6400-7200 mhz overclocking.
@toysars
@toysars 6 ай бұрын
Why are you not adjusting "Actual VROM Core Voltage" instead of the "Global Core SVID Voltage" for offset?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher 6 ай бұрын
Actual VRM Core Voltage sets the voltage on the voltage controller whereas Global Core SVID Voltage programs the voltage for the CPU. The issue with using the former is that it's a static voltage. Using the latter means we can use a dynamic voltage.
@toysars
@toysars 6 ай бұрын
I see, thanks. How about "Cache SVID Voltage"? Should that be offset to match "Global Core SVID"? @@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher 6 ай бұрын
Cache SVID Voltage configures the adaptive voltage for the Ring. It doesn't need to match the Core SVID since the Ring has its own V/F curve. It's only really useful if you're trying to increase the Ring frequency.
@toysars
@toysars 6 ай бұрын
@@SkatterBencher thank you, I'm learning. Few other guides recommend adjusting both Svid and Cache to the same number. Sounds like it might not be necessary.
@xeon_one
@xeon_one Жыл бұрын
Can you please do the same setup 13600K with a MSI 790 setting because there very different setting then ROG If you can Thank You ! I have the msi mag z790 tomahawk ddr5 and I can't follow along with you it's SAD! Thank You again for your hard work.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
No plans for now, but maybe in the future I will also try MSI Z790 :)
@xeon_one
@xeon_one Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Thank You
@frostraven23
@frostraven23 Жыл бұрын
I've done a manual VCore to 1.14v with all P core @ 5.2 and all E Core @ 4.0 with the setting st Disabled - Enforce All Limits. I noticed with HWmonitor my CPU only fluctuates between max at 5.2 GHz clock and idle 800 Mhz. I'm wondering what setting could help allow it to freely fluctuate and make the voltage adapt depending on load as to not always stress the CPU to do those clocks, but limiting the max clock for P Cores and E Cores to be observed at 5.2 and 4.0 respectively. Is this possible?
@user-xx8tn4kx4l
@user-xx8tn4kx4l Жыл бұрын
well, as i saw, fast 2x16gig ddr4 kits still not so cheap this days, i could get single ranked 4x8, saving couple cents on an icecream, but they not will reach same speeds, especially on low end mb, so...thinkin that ddr5 is kinda ok, especially on amd, overpriced for intel cpus, and if someone needs a capacity instead over 9000mt/s...than ddr5 is becoming a valuable choice for today and nearby future
@junclj
@junclj 11 ай бұрын
I can’t even get pass the cinebench r23 stress test with my 13600k, 5.7ghz@1.35v. My maximum speed only can reach to 5.6GHz@1.29v override mode. Maximum temp 83’c with Thermalright Frozen Magic 360 aio. My motherboard is msi z790 mpg carbon wifi with 2x16GB G.Skill tridentz rgb 7200mhz. I can run games without problem as long as the game don’t makes my CPU fully loaded.
@ibashyougood
@ibashyougood 7 ай бұрын
So i was about to try my first overclock and it did not start good xD I have no AI OC Guide in my bios... I Have the AI Overclock Icon switch to the right in EZ mode but that won´t activate... ASUS Z790-I, And yes the processor is a K. i5 13600K... Read the manual for both the motherboard and the bios.. It even comes with a Strix Hive that has dedicated AI OC button.. still nothing.. I know there is a small CPU overvolt jumper on the motherboard, do i need to activate this first? any help is worth gold! Can trade info for a patreon sub :D
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher 7 ай бұрын
Can you go into the advanced mode, Ai Tweaker menu, and change CPU ratio to AI Optimized?
@branchprediction9923
@branchprediction9923 Жыл бұрын
Is 1.475vcore safe tho for daily?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
For Raptor Lake, I'm comfortable up to 1.5V. Bear in mind that some 13900K CPUs have a default voltage of 1.45V or higher to achieve the 5.8GHz TVB spec.
@BoredErica
@BoredErica Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Maybe something to consider. 13900k might have spec up to 5.8ghz and 1.45v, but that's for light loads. It is worlds apart from all core with unlocked power limit. Current draw and heat will be way up. Intel spec sheet for 13900k says 307A for power virus load and 245A for regular use. So I think 'daily' depends on how often heavy loads are and how high power limit is.
@dimka11ggg
@dimka11ggg Жыл бұрын
@@BoredErica what's power virus?
@BoredErica
@BoredErica Жыл бұрын
@@dimka11ggg Basically stress test, generally not software you run doing day to day activties.
@Kyanzes
@Kyanzes Жыл бұрын
Beats a 5950 in Cine23 Multi. Noice!
@BoredErica
@BoredErica Жыл бұрын
6ghz all core?! I'm capping out at 5.82ghz 1.45v w/ power limit at very low 150w to stabilize all core workloads and 80C temp limit. Trying per core ratio limit right now. I think TVB down bins is promising since I can dictate how much CPU throttles when hitting a temp target. I set every core to x54 except 1 core at x55 to see voltage to pass a stress test. 1.3/1.31/1.31/1.32/1.3/1.3v, so cores seem roughly similar. One day if we get many cores and I'm still playing old games that can't use so many cores, I could disable the worst core and raise all core freq to hit the higher freq all the time rather than some of the time w/ per core OC. Also, Windows doesn't understand per core max multiplier right? If core 1-5 are x57 max and core 0 at x56, Windows won't try to prioritize work on the faster cores? Since this is an i5 and doesn't have TB Max 3.0. Thanks for the guide, I will try to learn from it in the coming days... adaptive voltage always confuses me. :^)
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Adaptive Mode gets pretty complex when you starting using all the available tools like Per Core Ratio Limit, OCTVB, V/F Points etc, that's for sure! And I haven't even touched on the latest Per Core Adaptive Voltage option which allows you to program different V/F curves for each core :). As for your question related to Windows: you're right that Windows doesn't automatically adjust the core priority based on max ratio. However, it is possible to do this via BIOS, and I think some vendors do this (i.e. ROG). However, some don't and so you can have the situation where your favored core has the lowest overclock but highest priority ... so certain benchmarks will show lower than optimal performance.
@BoredErica
@BoredErica Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Crazy discovery. I could run chess or Cinebench, but instant fail to start Minecraft. I turn off HT, turn on E cores, Minecraft starts fine now. I think HT puts extra strain on P cores and it doesn't downclock enough in spite of aggressive power limiting. I needed 1.35v to stabilize gaming but Minecraft startup required 1.39v @ 140w power limit so I had to raise vcore to 1.39v just for that. Now I can do 1.35v @ 160w limit for everything. All core perf gets nice boost. Looking forward to seeing how you test which cores are better than others on a CPU.
@Tpecep
@Tpecep Жыл бұрын
This guys chip is prolly the best silicon, I also cant go above 5.5ghz (4.2 e-cores) and its on 1.37v with very cool arctic freezer 280mm watercooler which destroys most of the 360mm aio's and I get 80-83c in linpack 220-230w consumption
@Dimastiy5565
@Dimastiy5565 Жыл бұрын
Hello, how you testing the stability ?
@SamLoki
@SamLoki Жыл бұрын
If he's passing Prime95 small fft AVX I'd call it stable than most people's alderlake/raptorlake OCs...
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
1) Must pass all benchmarks I'm using to measure performance back-to-back (incl. Cinebench R23 10min stress test) 2) Must pass 30min all-core Prime95 Small FFTs non-AVX and AVX
@syzce6311
@syzce6311 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again! Would it be smart to copy your OC settings, maybe lowering them a tiny bit because I have a arctic freezer II 360.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I would never recommend to just copy settings from the internet :). Every system is different and requires different settings. However, you can follow my process and use the different OC Strategies on your system to see what works best for you.
@syzce6311
@syzce6311 Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher thank you for the fast reply! I will definitely watch this video a couple more times.
@rsm4541
@rsm4541 Жыл бұрын
Where hynix a die and ddr5 8400 cl34 ? Ddr4 - and raptor, realy lol
@Tpecep
@Tpecep Жыл бұрын
Ddr4 is better still, lol
@VitaMix_Bliss
@VitaMix_Bliss 6 ай бұрын
Core i5-13600K on the MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk
@Tpecep
@Tpecep Жыл бұрын
Wow. 1.1v? Mine runs on 1.23, you got lucky binned chip or review sample? Bruh 5.8ghz with AI, definetly a review sample or super binned chip. Mine works on 5.5ghz with 1.37v stable
@zk2022
@zk2022 Жыл бұрын
now iam sure, Z790 prime D4 + 13600K and my "old" C15 corsair 32GB DDR 3000 enough for gaming... no need to buy the Rog Hero what i loved my early life...
@bboytyby
@bboytyby Жыл бұрын
You overclocked to 6ghz al cores
@armannasr3681
@armannasr3681 Жыл бұрын
13900k plz
@tony_bauer
@tony_bauer Жыл бұрын
This ^
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Next video is 13900K + Z790 Aorus Master :)
@armannasr3681
@armannasr3681 Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher amazing
@MRgemmu
@MRgemmu Жыл бұрын
I hate asus auto overclocking, even when i set barrier to 1.450v it was still able to cross it
@nivea878
@nivea878 Жыл бұрын
top content but to complicated for me
@sensationsuperthrust
@sensationsuperthrust Жыл бұрын
i think this video creates unrealistic expectation about what you get from buysing a 13600k
@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs
@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs 9 ай бұрын
I think it shows what is possible for a great 13600k sample. It's not a tutorial for everyone to follow to the letter. It's a demonstration of technologies and methods.
@ibashyougood
@ibashyougood 7 ай бұрын
I think this video answered and explained about 500 questions I have hade as a hobby pc builder that is just getting in to overclockimg/tweaking systems. Calm clear explanations.. what more can you demand!
@antonioneves9247
@antonioneves9247 7 ай бұрын
Dont think so. I was able to hit 61-60-57p and 43e on a kf which allegedly is a lower quality bin. At exactly 1.475. Motherboard vrms will also play a factor. Im lucky with a mid-range z790 aorus elite ax being able to handle voltage so well. His mb is much better than mine. 55p 42e all core its a walk in the park at default auto settings. Not even using adaptative. Just loaded bios defaults. Max vcore reading at 1.28v
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