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@Svyat_3027 32 минут бұрын
i bought myself an i9 11900kf instead of an i5 10400f and faced many problems. Overheating, throttling and the like, but thanks to this video I was able to adjust the processor, now instead of 300+ watts it consumes 230-240 watts and the purity in games has increased (where AVX is not used) from 4.7 to 4.9-5.1 . Thanks for this video
@TasneemAnwar-yf8kv 19 сағат бұрын
Interesting 🥶
@deucalion_winchester4554 Күн бұрын
Can I copy in Asus rog Maximus z790 apex Encore and i714700k + arctic III 360mm ? I’ll take tomorrow new cpu and will my first time start system and after download Windows try OC. Can I just copy everything on my system? Or better no?
@deucalion_winchester4554 Күн бұрын
I just had speak English and understand not everything, and translate subtitles a little bad
@SkatterBencher 13 сағат бұрын
I would never suggest to just copy settings from the internet. However, you will be able to set similar settings for your system. I can suggest watching the longer skatterbencher video on the 14700K since it covers the various overclocking strategies in a lot more detail kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5y0aaqXfa6dd9k
@markwelle5636 Күн бұрын
But why?
@LikelyLagging Күн бұрын
I know the likelihood of you actually doing this is slim to none but is there any chance you could make a video going over the majority of bios settings for maybe the z390/z590 or newer boards and make it easy to understand?
@SkatterBencher 13 сағат бұрын
I have a bunch of guides up with Z490 and Z590 motherboards. Just look for the Comet Lake and Rocket Lake CPUs in my video catalog
@ericmartinez5633 2 күн бұрын
is any of this stable tho?
@SkatterBencher Күн бұрын
I include stability stress tests in all overclocking strategies
@infinitywaves 2 күн бұрын
but if you look closely, you can immediately see the error (incomprehensible) on the human side, it was enough to use any cooler with a large contact surface, I don't understand this hype, this is primary school physics. Moreover, the result obtained by AI can be easily improved using the same method = increasing the contact area of the cooling fluid with the solid material. eot.
@ICANHAZKILLZ Күн бұрын
There's much more to this, like the pathing of channels with such a low visc fluid, the least amount of exposed LN2 to air while still having it reach channels equally, the ability for hot gas to exit without harming the flow of cool liquid in, the ratio of thickness to surface area without harming heat transfer, stability of the copper under contraction. Ect. If you don't understand something don't hate on it, let people enjoy science.
@lolmao500 3 күн бұрын
7.1Ghz and ``only`` 370W? Not that bad.
@matheushenrique1152 3 күн бұрын
Can I overclock my b660 phantom 4?
@inui747 3 күн бұрын
Медные губки для посуды подорожают. 🎉🎉🎉 И при чем тут старая мочалка? 😆👹😆
@1288832 3 күн бұрын
Самая бесполезная дич.
@SwedishRunner 3 күн бұрын
What max OC should i go for if i run a, Be Quiet Dark rock pro for CPU cooling? Or before OC should i get a effective water cooler?
@Luckyn00bOC 4 күн бұрын
Whoa the cooldown time is seriously FAST!
@ovenxxxx 3 күн бұрын
Lhaa ketemu legend 😅
@jannemann_17g90 4 күн бұрын
Anybody here that opened this Card already and tell me what the Fan Name is? Mine is really loud and before opening the Card i wanted to Check if there is even a spare Part for it.
@10mixas 4 күн бұрын
I tried it with same hardware and now my Windows is running automatic repair.
@PauldenBoef 4 күн бұрын
Maybe about 1% of 14700k chips can OC like this, most can't OC much at all.
@ZombieLincoln666 4 күн бұрын
I wish you would say what the max temps are on your cinebench etc runs
@benzed1618 4 күн бұрын
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@kekitech 5 күн бұрын
don't you have to disclose paid ads?
@Tiiroj 5 күн бұрын
So how are you calling this oc? Am I crazy ignorant or it's normal to have 100c cpu temp with this 'overclock'??
@jannemann_17g90 5 күн бұрын
Nice Video, also watched the longer Version of it. Sadly its not possible for me to set my A770 Power Limit higher then 276. I got a A770 Sparkle Titan. I guess its only working on A770 LE?
@iamdmc 6 күн бұрын
IMHO this could have been achieved using traditional manufacturing or 3D SLS printing with a much simpler design of thin cylindrical processes (or really just copper wire soldered to a copper base and tensioned using an open lid at the top where the wires would be anchored). Performance hierarchy would probably be 3D-printed > milled > soldered cylinders > soldered wires (depending on the number of wires). However, the cost hierarchy would also probably be the same. The key difference between your "AI" design and Elmorlabs design is surface area. Assuming an equal mass of copper in both solutions, increased surface area would naturally speed up cool down or heat up. I don't think this would translate into much additional performance or overclocking headroom as once they are both cooled down they are at equal temperatures and the heat load from the CPU would be similarly equal. Still an interesting idea and interesting video... however one that seems to be a proof of concept rather than having any practical real-world benefit
@Diabatix 5 күн бұрын
If physics was as simple as maximizing contact area for heat transfer... we would be out of business quickly ;-) The reason why the AI design (let's leave out the " " shall we) outperforms the Elmorlabs design is neither mass, nor contact area (both are actually pretty similar), but it is the combination of the effectiveness of the heat transport through the copper structures (e.g. wider base, smaller tips) together with the highly efficient vapor bubble transport within the LN2.
@iamdmc 5 күн бұрын
@@Diabatix try the copper wire idea - which is likely to provide the maximum amount of surface area
@Diabatix 5 күн бұрын
@@iamdmc Having more contact area won't help because it is not the bottleneck in the heat transfer. The way the cooling structures are structured, maximizes the transfer from the copper to the LN2 to such an extent that the conduction inside the copper has become the bottleneck. Using (thinner) copper wires will make this even worse. Using a copper wire like you describe will therefore be far less effective than the current design.
@iamdmc 5 күн бұрын
@@Diabatix if that were true I imagine that you'd have seen a performance difference (improvement) with your design compared to the Elmorlabs design... at least according to the numbers in this video there was no performance difference at all
@Diabatix 5 күн бұрын
@@iamdmc For sake of discussion, let's indeed ignore all tests that demonstrated a dramatic improvement over the Volcano and focus on the one where performance was seamingly similar. It is easy explainable though: the temperature difference that is reported, is the temperature difference over the heat spreader, not the containers, so this test is actually measuring the performance of the heat spreader. Since in both cases the same heat spreader is used and the power is the same, the difference can only come from probe placement or thermal interface material variations. Another way to interpret the 2nd real life test is that the AI container only needs 9°C (=-196 - -187) to evacuate the 600W of power from base to LN2 while the Vocano requires 19°C achieve the same. This brings the performance gain perfectly in line with all other tests. That's also why a next step will be testing the container at a much higher power because these tests show we are still far from the limit it can handle.
@theluggage7131 6 күн бұрын
Feed the CNC constraints into the AI as well and get an optimized pot that can be relatively easily manufactured?
@Diabatix Күн бұрын
Yes, that's perfectly possible to do! 🙂
@Diabatix Күн бұрын
But performance will be less than what you can achieve with 3D printing. The goal here was really to see how far we can go with the performance. The answer you can see from te video: it becomes so performant that the heat spreader and the thermal interfaces actually become the major bottleneck in the system.
@FlanK3rCZ 6 күн бұрын
this is very interesting
@yo1nk4 6 күн бұрын
My pc just blue screens, I have a RTX 4070 Super. No liquid cooling
@LawrenceTimme 6 күн бұрын
With many heat cycles at extreme temperature I'd be worried the 3d printed part would fail or break down as the grain structure on a 3d printed part will be terrible. It is extremely cool though to see.
@SkatterBencher 6 күн бұрын
Interesting thought. Do you have any references that show 3D printed copper falls apart faster than regular copper?
@iamdmc 6 күн бұрын
@@SkatterBencher he's just referring to temperature-related metal fatigue. It makes sense that the 3D printed version would have worse fatigue tolerance because of the way the crystal structure of the copper would be aligned in the 3D printed version vs a milled block of solid copper
@RsLays 5 күн бұрын
Dad?????
@iamdmc 5 күн бұрын
@@RsLays Yes, son?
@Mickulty 6 күн бұрын
"You had a great idea Elmor, but my pot is more advanced in every way" "How'd you solve the icing problem?" "...Icing problem?" with apologies to Iron Man (2008)
@zacharykarr 6 күн бұрын
What is the mass difference between the two containers?
@SkatterBencher 6 күн бұрын
It's identical, both about 1.7kg
@iamdmc 6 күн бұрын
@@SkatterBencher so it's just increasing the surface are. A laudable improvement in cool down/heat up, but does this translate to increased headroom for overclocking and performance?
@SparkysAdventure 6 күн бұрын
Interesting, how about a pot designed specifically for helium?
@SkatterBencher 6 күн бұрын
Love the idea, but hard to execute given how rare and expensive helium sessions are. How would we test the performance? :D
@BaBaNaNaBa 6 күн бұрын
so we are talking about the differences between aluminum and purified copper... well let's see if oney day there will be 3D diamond printing
@VraccasVII 6 күн бұрын
The relevant parts of the Volcano pot are copper, the only aluminium part is the extension to keep LN2 to make pouring easier and keep liquid from just spilling out.
@iamdmc 6 күн бұрын
microdiamond impregnated pure metal dust for SLS 3D printing is a possibility, but it would likely increase costs 10-fold for a 1.1x performance improvement otherwise, unless you can weld diamonds together or melt them (both physical impossibilities AFAIK) you're not looking at any kind of 3D printing with diamonds. The best you could do is CVD (i.e. how most lab grown diamonds are made), and trying to grow specific shapes or cut the larger diamond crystal instead... long story short, graphene is still better
@handendaer 6 күн бұрын
Lol get scammed. Reminds me about audiophiles. U should just compare a block of wood and any metal. Feel free to chose any type of carcus as well.
@Dipa_OC 6 күн бұрын
It's not black magic. This isnt going to scam anyone but cost a lot for sure. The Ai container is basically a "technology demonstrator" it is not meant to be the perfect pot but definetly gives you an idea of what you can reach if you use the laws of physics and chemistry and push them to their limit. Obviously it would be the best if you gave AI much more liberty on the shape of the container, height limit and mounting; all in an "ideal' scenario which is very unlikely because in real life applications there are many external variables than can prevent you from getting the expected "ideal" result.
@ICANHAZKILLZ Күн бұрын
What the hell are you on about
@JustinAlexanderBell 6 күн бұрын
bare copper with huge surface area
@danielc.5954 6 күн бұрын
Quality video but for a simple user that likes plug and play its a bit complex! It seems that u have no problem running the system with the average temp of 80-100 degrees! I was hoping to see how to drop it at 70 degrees! Great effort for the community!
@NotThatGuyJD 6 күн бұрын
Wow, been waiting for these results since it showed up at Computex. Great performance there. Have you tried for longer sessions on it? As one potential issue that was raised was that there were some small channels which could become obstructed during long sessions. Otherwise the performance was really amazing.
@SkatterBencher 6 күн бұрын
We're tried it in a multi-hour session with the Raptor Lake system. We did see ice formation but so far didn't see any impact on performance. So the next step will be to try it in a "competitive" session to see how it stacks up when performance really matters. Maybe with the next gen chips
@NotThatGuyJD 6 күн бұрын
@SkatterBencher that's great. Now to find a way to make it cost effective somehow, so we can all be blessed with such amazing performance.
@Mickulty 6 күн бұрын
@@SkatterBencher One quick and easy way to test the effect of ice would be to simply repeat the pull down and heat up experiments, perhaps with a max temp of -30C so you're not melting the ice and as a realistic CBB temp. If ice is a problem, the -30C to -196C pulldowns will get worse and worse compared to the Volcano as you repeat. If it's not a problem they should both get a bit slower every time, but by similar amounts.
@SkatterBencher 5 күн бұрын
That's a great suggestion. I'll try it next time there's access to LN2.
@cer1nak 6 күн бұрын
Finally :D
@HopletSplayserovich 6 күн бұрын
Вау, это сарказм)) Ясное дело что ячейки где их до хрена и они мелкие будут быстрее передавать чем блямбы в правом углу экрана ))))
@Dipa_OC 6 күн бұрын
Sort of because the design also minimizes the amount of LN2 exposed to air so it doesnt let it evaporate as fast as the Volcano which can be considered an almost "open" design. Yeah more surface area is going to transfer heat better but traditional pots built like that are also very fast and it's hard to control temperatures. In my opinion this is a very fast pot that is also good at retaining the ln2 inside of it.
@Lazarqy 7 күн бұрын
That’s my whole ass pc in the cpu power
@The_Eldest_Millenial 7 күн бұрын
5:50 - this is not what the bios looks like for the z790. there are no such options.
@Mr11ESSE111 7 күн бұрын
you must tell to peoples that this cpu have basically r7 5800x performance in games and that means it is slower then 12th gen intel cpus as 12600k or 12700k in gaming !1 8700f are too much cutted in less cache and less frequency and that will cost you with lower performance
@Mr11ESSE111 7 күн бұрын
8700f are stupid cpu unless it would cost 150-180$ at most and it wont!! it would cost same as r7 7700/x and it is slower then it so again this cpu are for fools probably
@ZixGeeSu 7 күн бұрын
264W now called undervolt? 7950X makes 38000 cinebench R23 with just 132W
@alex-desroches 8 күн бұрын
bro made sure it was super complicated to follow along
@SkatterBencher 8 күн бұрын
I also have a longer version of this guide with more details kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3Paf6dshalgZpI
@senpai78s 8 күн бұрын
My 600 watt psu🧟😵⚰️☠️
@user-zm5fp7ij1r 8 күн бұрын
14th gen please
@SkatterBencher 8 күн бұрын
14th gen overclocking process should be identical to 13th gen
@andrey6009 9 күн бұрын
600W hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Explosion- 9 күн бұрын
The freaking electric bill 📈
@arhanr9202 9 күн бұрын
wow, good thing now i can play sudoku, snake and pinball with ray tracing 300x native 4k.
@MrEdioss 10 күн бұрын
Everyone asks, how high can intel power consumption go, but never how low.
@SkatterBencher 10 күн бұрын
Intel Raptor Lake' near-zero idle power consumption is very impressive!
@fendysusanto876 9 күн бұрын
@@SkatterBencher My broken Pentium 4 also draw 0 Watt
@do.xuantung 10 күн бұрын
I'm quite confused, on Intel websites, it says this chip can only go up to 4.8 which mine also does. When I went to BIOS, I can only input 49 for the Performance Core Ratio, I can't input 55 to get it to overclock at 5.5GHz
@IndeecFOX 2 күн бұрын
You need Z-series motherboard
@MythaliPeek 10 күн бұрын
hey Skatte i wish you had asus z790 f gaming and 13990k