Corene fingerboard review

[@stuarthossack7906]

It is cured Phenol-formaldehyde, which is the same as the original mass produced plastic known as Bakelite, the same material old phones (in the UK) were made of.

[@hankwangn]

Corene states that it is made of 'composite', which suggests that it is a reinforced mixture, not a pure polymer.

[@castingstorms]

I would be really worried if that is the case as when that substance started to get wet from sweat or humidity it emits an rather gross smell

[@edloki3057]

I have it on my carbon fiber violin (the cheapest mezzo-forte money can buy). Very good fingerboard if you take it to sea or live close to the ocean. Doesn't absorb moisture which is great, however if your fingers sweat a bit, the fingerboard gets rather oily and moist.

[@JohnSmith-ki2eq]

Interesting video but I was hoping to hear the instrument played after the repair.

[@gustavorosa9991]

Interesting video.Thanks Maestro. Please send a video about violin bow rehair and winding.

[@maestrokimon]

Thank you! Working on it!

[@DanCeres]

You are great. I really love your work. Greetings from Italy.

[@maestrokimon]

Grazie mille per il tuo commento gentile! Saluti!

[@DanCeres]

Posso chiederti di fare un video parlando delle differenze tra i violini Stradivari/Guarneri e quelli moderni? differenze nel legno, nelle misure,.... sarebbe molto interessante!!

[@markkulyas2418]

The first luthiers made every component for their violin themselves, fingerboards, pegs, and tailpieces. Why did luthiers start using manufactured pegs and tailpieces? Do you know what year this practice became acceptable? Are there some luthiers that make their own pegs, and tailpiece? When you went to luthier school did they teach you how to make pegs and tailpieces from scratch?

[@hankwangn]

The answer to the "why" is of course cost. Building a violin from scratch and by hand takes 200 hours of labor. Not many customers can afford that. For the quality of the sound and durability, it doesn't matter who made the pegs.

[@maestrokimon]

As also Han-Kwang Nienhuys says, it is a matter of costs and efficiency. There are a lot of things that have changed in the production of all kind of products. Once violin makers made also the cases. And there is no specific year that something like that changes, these things change slowly slowly.

[@AFAndreLeviLuthier]

Dear Mark please realize that Luthier / bowmaker have/had people/apprentice doing the less noble task and although it not documented it is reasonable to assume "from the start" as it is the case in all craftsmanship 2) yes occasionally some still do for the fun or for specific application (baroque etc). 3) yes we are thought in school. 4) to day nearly all setup are machine made and man finished. Regards

[@adelkharisov]

Planetary pegs are better than any conventional pegs.

[@AFAndreLeviLuthier]

@@adelkharisov depends what you mean by better, they are way more precise, on the other hand is experience serve.. in the long run micromechanical mechanism are they are less reliable.

[@castingstorms]

Awesome video very interesting

[@maestrokimon]

Thank you!

[@keyloo2167]

Hi, what do you think about chisels and planes from aliexpress. Im going to build my first instrument, should i buy it, or buy something better?

[@maestrokimon]

I have th say that I haven't used theme but don't expect to mush. If you can afford it spend a bit more (like $20 - $30) and buy a good one that will last your hole life!

[@castingstorms]

Maestro-Kimon is right im in school now and bought a cheap 4 plane and it took me 3 sharpening passes to get to the point where I hit usable steel

[@lucaalexandercurd3046]

Love the videos maestro Do u ever make your own fittings and fingerboard or just pre made ones

[@maestrokimon]

Hello Lucas. I use pre-made ones. It is so much work to make your own fittings, clients don't want to pay for it. And the premade fingerboard still have a loot of work to do but not the very beginning.

[@maxlever9196]

Did you notice a difference in "feel" when playing when compared to a different violin with a new ebony fingerboard?

[@maestrokimon]

No, I don't feel any difference at all.

[@derwinserrano6936]

Nice. Have you played the instrument and noticed any sound difference? Any feel difference when playing the instrument? Thanks!

[@maestrokimon]

I have to say that I didn't notice any significant change. When changing a fingerboard the is always some difference as you add some weight replacing a thin fingerboard with a thicker one. The playing expiriance is perfect.

[@hankwangn]

You didn't mention one of the main reasons to consider this material: ebony is not a sustainable type of wood. All ebony tree species are endangered, some of them close to extinction. I'd recommend any violinist who cares about the environment to use non-ebony violin parts (such as pegs, tailpiece, and chinrest) as much as possible. At €65 for a violin fingerboard, this corene material is quite expensive, though.

[@maestrokimon]

You are write Han. Unfortunately we have to take more care about the planet and the resources that we use.

[@AFAndreLeviLuthier]

Well Phenol formaldehyde resins is a petroleum byproduct so unfortunately I would not call this an ecofriendly solution either.

[@dannyvance4032]

I know that this is an old thread, so I'm leaving this here for new watchers, or Maestro Kimon to see. I have heard that hemp-crete, or hempstone, (a simple slurry of hemp fiber sprayed on a mold and dried) is described as carving similarly to ebony, and I would wonder if it could be used to make fingerboards. It's weakness is to moisture, but I wonder if there is a way to seal it, to still allow it to be used. Either way, it is rather renewable, as it is made from what would be a waste product from other textile processes. If I remember correctly, the gentleman at Canna Guitars makes his guitar bodies with hempstone.

[@bluehoo0]

Very interesting what did you polish it with?

[@maestrokimon]

Just linseed oil.

[@bluehoo0]

maestro-Kimon Thank you.

[@felixhesse4096]

very interesting

[@maestrokimon]

Thank you

[@WhiteDragon689]

Maestro, I would be concerned in handling that material. Could be toxic. I would not want to touch such a material on a daily basis. It was discontinued for a reason in the 40s.

[@maestrokimon]

The producer states on the website that the material is not toxic. They even provide a list with toxic materials that are NOT included. Have a look to their website for more information.

[@ghlscitel6714]

I did not find anything about Corene. Maybe this is "Swiss Ebony"? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZrcfoWcbciZpac

[@maestrokimon]

Did you look at the link in the description?

[@mccypr]

I wonder if the material affects the sound? With some people the material is assumed/thought to affect the sound in the guitar World. Brazilian Rosewood fingerboards would be the preference. My Magic Fluke Cricket has a synthetic fingerboard. Reference the comment below: Formaldehyde! I’ve heard nasty things about it. I believe it can’t be used on hardwood floors now. Thanks! Great info.

[@castingstorms]

Its mostly an weight and flexibility issue in terms of sound as i understand it the more weight the more you happer sound production also the density of the product as well

[@dannyvance4032]

I have changed the fingerboard on a VSO (violin shaped object) that was dyed maple, and replaced it with an ebony one. It made a significant positive difference, at least for that particular instrument.