The Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb Vs. My Vintage 1967 Princeton!

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Corey Congilio

Corey Congilio

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@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
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@tszegvary
@tszegvary Жыл бұрын
Corey, this was the most honest review of this amp I’ve seen. Kudos. Thank you so much for doing this!
@johowohoj
@johowohoj 9 ай бұрын
I have the blonde tonemaster deluxe, it lives in my bands rehearsal room so I just ordered one of these tonemaster Princetons to use at home in my music room… should be in in a week or so… I gave my home built brown Princeton to my grandson as he can carry that sucker better than me… Gave him a nice surf green strat to go along with it… At our band rehearsal, we all wear in ear monitors so my speaker is turned off most times and at home, I’ll use the attenuator on the Princeton to control the volume while my wife watches tv… I had a Boss Katana 50 but found myself involved in endless tweaking… Having been a fender amp user since the mid 60’s, in glad to be back in my comfort zone… Cheers and thanks for the great video!!!👍
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 8 ай бұрын
Looking at the price point..it's clear Fender do not want to run down their tube amp market
@2GroundControl
@2GroundControl 2 ай бұрын
As an electronics IC design engineer with over 40 years in the industry and a more recent design experience for the last 5 years in class D audio IC design as well as being a trained guitarist for over 50 years I am amazed how folks are still enamoured with tubes. I own a Mesa Boogie 5:25 from 20 years ago and love it. But hauling it to gigs or weekly practice gets really old. I use a Strymon Irridium and FRFR loudspeakers most of the time. I am almost totally sold on Fender's approach that they have taken with these new amps. Rather than a focus on very slight bordering on insignificant tone differences between a tube version and the ToneMaster version my concern is longevity. How will these new nearly $1000 amps hold up over 3 decades. The promise of solid state reliability has been challenged by constant corner shaving to reduce cost. My hope is that Fender has also emphasized reliability. If so in 20 years since an active guitarist will replace a tube set at least every 2 years spending nearly $100 for a set, the ToneMaster will pay for itself. If Fender on the other hand has cut too many reliability corners and things start failing in 5 years time.... that will not be good. I plan to hold on to my repairable tube amp but give the class D ToneMaster a try. I'm hoping for the best. My shoulder cuff likes the idea. And once the sax player, bassist, keyboardist and drummer are also playing those subtle tone differences requiring an ever so slight EQ tweak, just don't matter as much as a sore arm or back🤣
@Geetarhed
@Geetarhed Ай бұрын
Same, using a Boogie 5.25, great reliable amp
@jeffrininger4075
@jeffrininger4075 Жыл бұрын
Learned a lot: not just about old vs. new (amps that is!), but also a bit of "ear training" regarding what to listen for when dialing in amplifiers. Thank you CC and I wish you the best in 2023!
@BrewerShettles
@BrewerShettles Жыл бұрын
Playing is great!!! 2:18 - 3:38 - 3:52 - 4:08 - 7:36 - 12:21 - 12:40 - 13:03 - TM 15:14 - 67 15:33 - TM / 67 - 15:51
@dmjazz
@dmjazz Жыл бұрын
Good video. I have 3 vintage blackface Fenders, and a tonemaster deluxe reverb. I love the old tube amps and they sound better than the tonemaster to my ears, but playing some of the country dive bars I end up playing, it feels better taking a less valuable, modern amp that still sounds around 90% close to what I'm used to. The folks on the dancefloor don't seem to mind.
@bcinbergen9097
@bcinbergen9097 Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@richardfredrick8838
@richardfredrick8838 Жыл бұрын
And you can sometimes get the wrong guy behind the mixer who will make you sound bad matter what rig you brought that night.
@voyxu143
@voyxu143 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the audience won't be able to tell the difference for sure.
@davidcudlip6587
@davidcudlip6587 Жыл бұрын
@@voyxu143 A couple of beers in them and a Fender sounds the same as a Marshall stack or Tone Master. The average listener/dancer is clueless. Only gear geeks stay up at night contemplating this crap. Used to be me. Now I sleep great. Plug in and play and carry on.
@saintmaryscatholicchurchma2509
@saintmaryscatholicchurchma2509 Жыл бұрын
18:28 I also have vintage Princeton amp. An all original 68. I prefer those amps but would never take them out on the road
@jwilder2251
@jwilder2251 Жыл бұрын
This is the best Tonemaster review on KZbin, bar none. No shtick, no BS, packed with knowledge and great playing - just the facts!
@nooneelseguy
@nooneelseguy Жыл бұрын
They both sounded great to me. Perhaps a guitarists ear could hear slight variations, but no audience will. Your playing brought out great sounds with each amp. Thanks for the comparison.
@jzf128
@jzf128 7 ай бұрын
Yeah also my thought. Pretty good amp
@paulsharp6559
@paulsharp6559 Жыл бұрын
I love my Fender twin tone master. Especially for pedal steel guitar. You can’t go wrong with any of them.
@stephendixon3597
@stephendixon3597 Жыл бұрын
what is the difference between Volume on 1 and Volume on 2 on the Tonemaster amps? My current amp is almost inaudible on 1 and has no tone.... On 2, it's way too loud but the tone is there. But, being too loud is a bad thing on stage.
@richard66754
@richard66754 Жыл бұрын
I bought a twin reverb tone master off the used rack at the local music store and absolutely love it. It will do everything my real twin does, but only weighs just a little over 30 pounds. I do own real Marshall’s and Fender amps, but I just like this one and all it offers for live shows.
@chrisdurham6517
@chrisdurham6517 Жыл бұрын
What a great review. I'm just an old, bedroom player and I'd love to have both. At this time of my life though, I'm looking at the "one more things" to buy before I retire, and that Tone Master might just be perfect - not better than the vintage, but flexible and priced right for the amateur recorder that doesn't want to wake the wife and dogs; I can always get another pedal on a fixed income. Thanks!
@DaveGVideo
@DaveGVideo Жыл бұрын
Nice video Corey. Excellent test, presentation, and analysis. Thanks for providing the straight scoop. This will be very valuable to someone considering the tonemaster series. Here's to a happy 2023 and continuing good health for you.
@rickr7115
@rickr7115 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for using a room mic to blend with amp mics! I can't believe how many amp reviewers skip over this important mix.
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
Thx for noticing!
@mikeoxley4458
@mikeoxley4458 Жыл бұрын
Great demo, Cory! I was looking at Tube Princeton’s, but they were over $1K. I ended up with a Supro Delta King 12, which I love! It takes pedals extremely well with it’s neutral clean tone - I love that it has a Treble, Middle & Bass EQ! Adding some mid’s really helps with overdrive pedals. The only thing it lacks is that Fender “sparkle” I grew up with while using a Fender Blackface Deluxe, and Super Reverb. I may consider getting the Tone Master Princeton for a backup/alternate. Sounds very good.
@cemsarioglu5947
@cemsarioglu5947 Жыл бұрын
Logistics wise, Tone Master is the go to amp for me. There is a significant difference to my ears but in a band mix,I think no one can tell the difference. Great review by the way.
@guitrr
@guitrr Жыл бұрын
Good point; in a live gig situation, 99% of the audience won’t have any clue.
@ThomasD66
@ThomasD66 Жыл бұрын
Just recognize that the solid state amp has a much shorter operating lifespan. But for a working musician this is simply an operating expense.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasD66 It's laughable that people think this is something new. It's 60-year-old technology and ideas.
@aardvarkusrex
@aardvarkusrex Жыл бұрын
Great demo. I'm in love with my ToneMaster Deluxe Reverb. Easy to lug around and, tonally, it's immediately identifiable as a Fender amp. Takes pedals very well, just like the Princeton.
@gixerjas
@gixerjas Жыл бұрын
An interesting comparison, it would be great to see how you would dial in a blues jr. with single coils and humbuckers and how well that stacks up against the Princeton. Keep up the great work!
@stratolestele7611
@stratolestele7611 Жыл бұрын
I've had my Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb for a few years - whenever it was when they came out. Extremely happy with it. Definitely a grab and go amp. That being said, I've got several nice tube amps, including my '68 drip-edge Super Reverb that I use on its own, and to power my Leslie model 16. Definitely not a grab and go rig! Depending on the setting, I'm probably going to take one of my other amps, because, why wouldn't I? That's why I have them! However, I could see using on a gig. My experience with it, and the way I use it, is a little different than yours. I get your point about using it at full, or higher power settings, but what I want is that "tube breakup" tone as a base tone (drop the bass down!), and then add my overdrives at just slightly above unity gain for solos. At the same time, I'm constantly riding my guitar's volume too. Worst case, for a different few songs, or set, it's very simple to rotate the power selector to taste. Also, I never use clean boosts to push the amp to drive it. If you want the same result, just reduce the power, increase the amp's volume and get that grind from the amp,then add OD to taste for solos or more aggressive rhythm tones. It doesn't seem to like a hot boosted signal coming into it. At the end of the day, I can just say that I play it daily. It's EXTREMELY versatile, and more so than any other amp I own.
@olewisloff7657
@olewisloff7657 3 ай бұрын
I`ve got my Fender Tone Master Princeton for a week ago. I is a incredible good, solid state amp. I think, one of the best on the marked .When I start playing, I won`t stop. More than, good enought for home and small gigs!
@0riole11
@0riole11 8 ай бұрын
So was the difference the amp or the speaker? I would have been interesting to hear them using the same speaker or IR.
@wayne387
@wayne387 Жыл бұрын
Had an old Fender tube combo it was a beast.
@CargoShorts7
@CargoShorts7 Жыл бұрын
I'm a fellow tube amp lover and nerd for vintage amps as well. Have an original 65 Deluxe Reverb, brown 62 Princeton and a 67 Duper Reverb in my humble collection, but I must say I've been surprised by these tone masters. I think in isolation, they sounds pretty good and are certainly serviceable for a gig or home practice. It's only when they're side by side with the real deal or even the modern tube reissues that they show their limitations. To me, to tone masters sound solid on their own, but I think they are too stiff and pristine sounding compared to the originals. The old amps they're modeling have more give and nuanced characteristics that the digital amps haven't been able to nail quite yet. I think you summed it up perfectly, "they sound more like the image of what we think a black panel amp should sound like." Fully agree. Still interesting and cool to see how far digital amps have come nonetheless. That said, I'd still love to add an old Princeton to my collection one day before they're completely out of this world in price lol. Great video mate, cheers!
@frankadams4586
@frankadams4586 Жыл бұрын
I'm a diehard Blackface guy - '64 Vibrolux, '66 Super Reverb, '66 Deluxe Reverb and a '65 Champ. I love them all and they each do wonderful things. Your demo is great and informative......the digital Fender sounds much better than I imagined. The missing element for me here is how the digital Fender sounds in a live setting. I know the Princeton is on the smaller side and might not stand up to a loud drummer, but I would like to hear the amp in the context of other instruments. I've been in a few situations where I have had to use a digital amp - Line 6, etc. and they just disappeared on stage. I like the idea of a no-maintenance Blackface amp but I need to hear how it sits in a mix and in relation to live instruments.
@rodolphep0nthus555
@rodolphep0nthus555 Жыл бұрын
Great demo, really good playing. I'm sold on this Tonemaster. Ordered this day
@CEB7832
@CEB7832 Жыл бұрын
Corey, I find your reviews and instructional videos to be among the very best! You (unlike too many reviewers who automatically set « knobs the same » when doing comparos) correctly assessed that knob values mean nothing. It would have been interesting that you also note and investigate the effect of the two vastly different speakers in each amp, and attempt to route them through the same speaker to mitigate. This arguably makes more difference than the amps themselves.
@arottie4097
@arottie4097 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the break down! The head to head comparison really highlighted the Big differences!!
@ericbarnes7748
@ericbarnes7748 Жыл бұрын
Best Tone Master series review yet. Great work. Thank you.
@roww10
@roww10 23 күн бұрын
Tone Master sounds like what the vintage will sound like after the engineer hit it with EQ. Engineers always say mids are your friend, so that they can determine how much mid is present at any given time in the mix. Mids = Meat Treble, Bass and Presence = Seasonings
@tylerwillison4962
@tylerwillison4962 Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to hear the regular production Princeton against the ‘67. Great review!
@garyfox8
@garyfox8 Жыл бұрын
They both sound great. More proof that the player and instrument can get good sounds out of (most) anything. The new one provides a great tone and some useful features that 60's players would have been happy to have back in the day. I could see a studio application where you plugged into both and hard panned the two so that you get a great stereo image for a rhythm track. Thanks for the video, excellent comparison, with a fair balance of objective and subjective thoughts.
@what1864
@what1864 8 ай бұрын
the vintage sounded more open , more presence , more clarity , more alive , the advice about using ear not numbers on knobs to equate amps is something everyone should follow ..
@frankm496
@frankm496 Жыл бұрын
It's nice if you could find and afford an original 67. Age does affect its tone and varies from amp to amp. You would have to adjust to find your sound that you are looking for. You can't expect with the same settings on the Tone Master to match the 67. With tinkering like you demonstrated you could achieve a similar sound. The modeling amps have come a long. The Tone Master really has so many more things going for it that make it a great choice as a substitute to that 67. Will always will have a soft heart for tube amps, but on the other hand this amp is hard to ignore. Nice demonstration thanks for posting.
@davidt9841
@davidt9841 Жыл бұрын
Hey Corey, it looks like you’re healthier than from several weeks ago, so I hope that’s the case! Last day of 2022, my friend.. looking forward to what you’ll be sharing for 2023! Keep Up the Great Work! 👍🎸✌️😎
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
Thx so much, David!
@GraniteSoundtrack
@GraniteSoundtrack Жыл бұрын
I think your take on vintage tone vs. our image of that tone is spot on. I'm a Marshall guy and that's the story of Marshall amps up and down. Also, bedroom tone versus pro tone. A lot of misconceptions in there too. Thanks Corey.
@marketingTUNEUP
@marketingTUNEUP Жыл бұрын
Best fender demo I've found and 100% for the TM. Thank you for starting a demo with a Strat Neck. Even more impressive, you went right to the sweet spot at five and showed a bit higher again with the neck with very fine chops covering neck. OD pedal sounding good to me. Bonus pts - You showed the power settings using Strat neck and not just max and min. All your edu pts were relevant. Great Demo! Now would I buy the amp at $900. Tuff call. $699? Contender. Update - Comparison. Yeah the Princeton Tube has a 3D Quality esp crunch tone and low strings. TM a little thinner, brighter SS sounding? The DI sounded good. Really like the duke pedal in beg.
@frederickthompson8686
@frederickthompson8686 Жыл бұрын
Corey's the real deal. Expert insights, easy to follow instruction.
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
Thx so much!
@Wermode
@Wermode Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honesty and expertise, Corey. I looked at this amp, but decided my Blues Junior covers much of that ground. Happy New Year, my dude! Cheers! 🎸
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
HNY, Stosh! Can't beat a Blues Jr!
@JimKerstetter
@JimKerstetter Жыл бұрын
Good report. A better comparison since most people do not own a 67 that is well broken in would be to compare the TM with a brand new tube Princeton Reverb - new vs new!
@marksvideochannel3592
@marksvideochannel3592 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@jimbo169
@jimbo169 Жыл бұрын
I love Corey's review but agree new tube vs TM is more relevant to most. Here is one from Andertons: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omG2gpaofrCSgpo
@stevenprebeg
@stevenprebeg Жыл бұрын
I have the tone master deluxe reverb , it works for me cuz i just play for fun in a bedroom and the direct output is convenient for recording. Not having to turn it up and still get nice sounds without peeling paint off the walls is nice 😂
@taloujazz9504
@taloujazz9504 Жыл бұрын
I love my Deluxe Reverb Tone Master for gigs and at home. Lightweight no tubes replacement , perfect !
@napotronix
@napotronix Жыл бұрын
Great and honest review. The old one really sounds a lot better (and no, I'm not a vintage snob)
@lordvader6512
@lordvader6512 Жыл бұрын
The old tube amps just have a playing dynamic that isn't replicated digitally.
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 Жыл бұрын
@@lordvader6512 perhaps that does not come across on You Tube?
@rhendrickson886
@rhendrickson886 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Tonemaster, which really surprises me. This amp is really affected by the speaker you use, too. With a 12" cone, it's also a whole different animal. One of the best amps out there, regardless.
@paulwatson9217
@paulwatson9217 Жыл бұрын
So have you put a 12” speaker into the Princeton Tone Master? If you have tell me more about the advantages
@steveo44
@steveo44 3 ай бұрын
Sounds great to me ears. I've tried the deluxe reverb one and was really impressed with that
@stevep7657
@stevep7657 Жыл бұрын
Great review of these amps. I have a blond Deluxe Reverb TM, and honestly, after a lot of gigs of gigs, I no longer think about tube vs digital, and being an older guy, the light weight wins the contest.
@Dang...
@Dang... Жыл бұрын
Both sound good. Of course: Corey will always make any amp sound great. The ToneMaster sounded a bit congested in the low mids, the '67 sounded more open. I'll take the '67 anyday.
@CastlesMadeOf...
@CastlesMadeOf... Жыл бұрын
14:30 this is often overlooked in comparison videos. Match the tone not the knob settings! Would be good if they were both played through the same vintage speaker. A new speaker will never sound like an "old" one.
@davidcudlip6587
@davidcudlip6587 Жыл бұрын
I have the Tone Master Super Reverb and love it. I would never own the tube version because of the weight and volume, but with the Tone Master version of that amp the built in attenuator and light weight make it perfect for me. I am looking at getting this Tone Master Princeton tomorrow for a grab and go amp.
@Guitaural.
@Guitaural. Жыл бұрын
Top shelf as always Corey! Sweetwater is _very_ wise to play a part of anything you're doing. A great company. Glad you're doing well!!
@RoadToCairo
@RoadToCairo Жыл бұрын
The vintage amp immediately sounds and feels like coming home.
@krillr_prawn
@krillr_prawn 9 ай бұрын
grandad and grandchild- such a pleasure to hear them both!
@leurnefpv4490
@leurnefpv4490 Жыл бұрын
keep doing the hard work and the video! it's paying back! Sub is increasing and you really deserve much more sub!
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@pickeringpick
@pickeringpick Жыл бұрын
3:37 Volume at 7 on my all-tube Princeton 65RI, single coils, is much more grungey. A tube Princeton will generally break up at 5 with a strat/tele. Great video - keep wondering if I need one of the Tonemasters. Not sure I do, really...
@stewartperry7797
@stewartperry7797 Жыл бұрын
67! All day! Liked the comparison very much and good vid.
@steverusso1517
@steverusso1517 Жыл бұрын
I've been using a tonemaster deluxe for 2 years. It's definitely not a perfect simulation, but it's ok. The convenience of the direct out and the attenuator make it a good tool for the bars and restaurants I play in. My tube deluxe would have people asking me to turn down after 2 notes, but the attenuator allows the tonemaster to be set at 5 or 6 without complaints.
@yjmsrv
@yjmsrv Жыл бұрын
Can't believe it- but during the shootout I MUCH preferred the Tone Master- much more mid-scooped blackface sound that I expect with a full rich bass and chime on the high end- the vintage amp was far too focused (as you mentioned) for my taste- it sounded like it was missing most of the character I go to blackface amps for- which is weird since it's a real blackface amp! Super good video here Corey- thanks for showcasing it! I have the new Princeton Reverb 1x12 in a tweed- excellent amp- all tubes- but it does a weird thing between 5-7 on the volume and goes from a clean blackface to a really overdriven amp in a very short sweep of the dial- and it has a huge volume jump there too- which makes it difficult to dial in at gigs sometimes. I didn't understand why Fender would build a Tone Master for the Princeton since it's already a low wattage amp- but after watching this- I think I get it! The real one is still heavier then I like too- even though it's a tiny amp. Transformers are like dwarf stars ;-)
@rodolphep0nthus555
@rodolphep0nthus555 Жыл бұрын
I think that the Tonemaster Princeton has his place. Today people don't crank their amps at home, or even at gigs. I had the Princeton Reverb 65, and it was way too loud for home use. Most players today play in their little home studio or living room. The attenuator is a very clever add, even on the Princeton that is considered low wattage I had the 5w Champ reverb, it was just too loud for home use if you wanted to atteign the sweet spot where the power tube is cooking..
@thehumblepundit9790
@thehumblepundit9790 Жыл бұрын
As much as I like how companies are trying to emulate vintage sounds with digital combo amps and heads, if you really want to get as close as possible to those vintage sounds, you really need a full digital solution. I've been a Fractal user for over a decade, and once you get past the learning curve, you can make that vintage sound happen. Yes, it takes time and patience, but for $1K, the FM3 can do it for you. Especially if you are like me, and don't use a myriad of wonky time based effects. Boost, Amp, Delay, Chorus. Golden. Nice video!!
@gregoire8376
@gregoire8376 8 ай бұрын
It's like buying a color TV. In the store we know the LG is better than the Samsung - side by side, in the store, you can see it. At home, by itself, the Samsung TV is pretty darn good and you saved $600 in the process. So long as you don't think about the LG, you should be happy. Replace Samsung above with Tonemaster and LG with '67. Life is too short to not be happy
@johnmeeks9308
@johnmeeks9308 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best demo video I have watched and I know all the other guys who do this stuff Corey I tip my hat to you because you did it for real life usage not someone time recording deal for a specific song or tone and you showed how you can use it on multiple gigs I got a tip my hat to that
@HR2635
@HR2635 Жыл бұрын
well.. im a drummer, and a mix engineer.. and its actually simple: the magic is in the midrange. And that's how I choose gear, not matter if its drums, guitars, preamps, whatever. Id choose the vintage one for that one reason. Even though the digital one is cool and Id use that for rehearsels and small gigs for sure. For recording: the vintage one any day.
@eolden7749
@eolden7749 Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but if you lined up five tube amps they could all sound different depending on which "Grove Tube" is weak or going bad. Great review.
@yaniv-nos-tubes
@yaniv-nos-tubes Жыл бұрын
many parts in a guitar amp have a few % variation and it affects the tone,so even if you put the exact same tubes they will sound different(i have a tube tester) ,handwired amps even more but all better than a digital excuse ,if you play 5 strats from 1964 they will sound different but all better than a modern strat, with the good stuff the sound is better but it's not consistent with digital all the units sound exactly the same but it doesn't sound as good.
@georgegkourlias7
@georgegkourlias7 Жыл бұрын
so i like both amps . but the fact remains.....you are one of the best players i ve ever heard!!
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you
@mrsoul4231
@mrsoul4231 Жыл бұрын
Just to concur with the people commenting on the honesty of your review.It-unlike a lot of reviews-was also really easy to follow in terms of tones.Subscribed.
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated.
@picker63028
@picker63028 Жыл бұрын
Got a TM Twin Reverb. Yes the direct out is great, but I bought it to play out of the front. Dive bars and the animal clubs. The speakers need break in and it's an ok amp but I found the need use a boss EQ in front to get my bass and mids, especially for pedal steel guitar. The Reverb is too hot even after the upgrade software. Use a pedal here too. 2 extra things and cables. Otherwise it's not too bad, but can't match my old Fender Twins. YMMV.
@silverwings1843
@silverwings1843 Жыл бұрын
It is so amazing to see the Fender Princeton become such a sought after amp. First: It was meant to be no more than a student amp that had reverb and tremolo. Thats it!!! You could pick one up on sale for $125 in the 60s. Then when the recording industry caught on the amp became a staple simple for its portability and the evolution of then sound engineers to paint sound. That's all !!! It was never considered a stage amp. No one mic'd amps back then. Now look it it. All Marketing!!!
@johnkosh1555
@johnkosh1555 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen input 2 used for les Pauls, the dB are dropped
@johnmac8084
@johnmac8084 Жыл бұрын
I love that 67 Corey, I'm glad you bought it when they were more affordable! Hang on to it.
@jessejamesburnitt
@jessejamesburnitt Жыл бұрын
This is a great video and really nice presentation of the Tone Master! That '67 sounds magnificent, and like everything you would want from a Fender amp, but it was awesome to hear these two side-by-side. I think for most players the Tone Master is a good little workhorse amp, and super easy to record with, not to mention budget-friendly.
@JoeCardilino
@JoeCardilino Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Corey, all right now, back to 7th Avenue...
@bobbyfields7359
@bobbyfields7359 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Side by side there was difference but I like that highs and lows, scoped sounds of the TM.
@tjnugent62
@tjnugent62 Жыл бұрын
I have the Tone Master Deluxe and it is different than the amp, they have the same basic DNA. It hits the cleans brilliantly. Adding a reverb and drive makes it happen. I like the Prince Tone Master. from what I hear.
@xtc1957
@xtc1957 Жыл бұрын
We are moving steadily closer to "that sound" in a solid state amp, but it still comes up short. Until that magical moment won't be achieved unless there is a proper hand-wired tube amp in the line, or at the very least, a GREAT overdrive pedal. In my case, the OKKO Diablo GH Signature Overdrive. I prefer this pedal and/or the Barber Electronics 1/2 Gainer. Both are wonderful sounding, transparent, and are crafted to last for eons.
@kiritsi100
@kiritsi100 Жыл бұрын
Great demo Corey! I like the vintage better as well. More mids in that happy zone. I do like the digital for the money as you say and could make that work. One thing that would bring those mids in there is the JHS Double Barrel set to a small amount of break up from the Morning Glory side. Would give it more dynamics too. Amazing pedal! Thanks for the great work!
@ke4uyp
@ke4uyp Жыл бұрын
The Royer R 10 microphone being a ribbon style Mic doesn't warm the sound at all. It is a flat frequency response microphone. It doesn't add anything or subtract anything.
@ShinyShinyBlack
@ShinyShinyBlack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. The biggest (and kind of frustrating) difference I heard was that the reverb was turned up louder on the Tonemaster. I would also tend to attribute at least 50% of the tonal differences to the age of the speaker, and a lot of the other differences to age/tolerance drift of the components in the '67. Does it sound better? Yes. Would they sound a LOT closer if the could play through the same speaker. Probably. That all said - something is still definitely not quite right, and you can really see it at the end of the Anderton's video when they first got ahold of the Princeton TM and ran a fuzz through it. I really do wish Fender had worked with UAFX to do these. UAFX is KILLING it on the Fender emulations, and one thing I think most people would agree on is that UAD has done a much better job on the spring reverbs.
@peterszakal
@peterszakal Жыл бұрын
Wow, it sounds really nice with the Duke of Tone. I recently ordered the TM version and can't wait to try it out with my favorite Marshall Bluesbreaker 2 and Guv'nor 2 pedals.
@LowdenOs
@LowdenOs Жыл бұрын
Wow!! What an honest review - rarely to be seen these days. Thanks!!!!
@swaffy101
@swaffy101 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the speaker plays into there sound. I bet the tone master would sound better if you would have used the speaker that the 68 had. That would have been a good comparison. Same cab and speaker. Great work!
@ekkuapo62
@ekkuapo62 Жыл бұрын
I have Blonde Twin TM and Princeton TM and I love both🙏
@MontyPMarshall_Music
@MontyPMarshall_Music 6 ай бұрын
Very nice comparison, well presented. I decided to purchase on of these!
@TomerSevilya
@TomerSevilya Жыл бұрын
Intersting what will happen if you connect the Tonemaster to the 1967 speaker cab
@robertfair1770
@robertfair1770 3 ай бұрын
Great review.. I like you, have a vintage Princeton and play threw it a lot but I also have the Tonemaster ... Love them both.
@buddhamus
@buddhamus Жыл бұрын
Nice shootout. I thought the vintage Princeton sounded a little warmer than the Tone Master in the side-by-side comparison, but overall they both sounded good. I had a silver-panel Princeton that I paid $300 for back when they were affordable. I regret having to sell it. The Tone Master might be an affordable way of getting back into the Princeton amp. Vintage ones are now way more than $300.
@jjmatashi
@jjmatashi Жыл бұрын
One of the best shootouts ever. Nuff said.
@rjherb5895
@rjherb5895 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, very well done! For my needs and wants I choose the 67. If I HAD to choose a Fender Tone Master amp, I would go for the Deluxe Reverb. The weight and the price of the Tone Master Princeton and the Tone Master Deluxe are so close, for the money I think the Tone Master Deluxe would be a better deal.
@johnkosh1555
@johnkosh1555 Жыл бұрын
Oooo I genuinely got chills when you kicked in the 67.
@musicspeaks1074
@musicspeaks1074 Жыл бұрын
Cool gear booth sounds great, at the end for me comes down to the player, an awesome guitarist like you will make all sound beautiful. Cheers 🙌🏻🎸
@joelmccreight
@joelmccreight 10 ай бұрын
Trigger Warnjng: I think the Tone Master sounded better than the tune Princeton by far. I think they more often sound better. I think the Katana sounds better than my Mesa Boogie, Marshall or tube Fender amps. Sorry to disappoint the tone snobs.
@lumberpilot
@lumberpilot Жыл бұрын
I used to have the Fender Pro Reverb and for some reason, it could pick up the Rush Limbaugh show when I turned it on in my garage.
@Worklikeyoushouldbe
@Worklikeyoushouldbe 7 ай бұрын
I liked the tone master through my headphones. Great review, thanks bud
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 8 ай бұрын
Many players don't really need tubes..BUT, will John Mayer or Eric Johnson step out on stage with a Tonemaster?? somehow I doubt it
@johnsmith-bk4ps
@johnsmith-bk4ps 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if SR Vaughn were around which amp he would grab? His tube super reverbs or a tonemaster? Which twin would eric johnson choose? His old tube twin or a tonemaster? I think i know which way id bet
@bassyey
@bassyey Жыл бұрын
How's the repairability on Tone Master though? I don't mind tube vs digital vs solid state (I honestly think, recorded-wise I can make a REAL BLIND TEST, and no would pass it 100%) but what's important is which one would last more, and even more important is that if a component fails (which they'll do eventually) which amp offers good accessibility of parts and components.
@cooghoublaga7555
@cooghoublaga7555 Жыл бұрын
Hi, on the 67 princeton i-phone video you play a funk rhythm standing up, would love to have a quick lesson on that very rhythm if possible, all the best.
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing a funk rhythm course this year. I'll try to add this stuff. Also, I have a course on Instagram clips coming out. I'll add this eventually too. Thanks!
@michaelholmes5150
@michaelholmes5150 9 ай бұрын
There is usually a thinness to solid state tone vs tubes which I can detect in your demo. But what makes the Tonemaster is the attenuation. Without it you could not approximate the 67 Princeton.
@jjboogie1
@jjboogie1 Жыл бұрын
Funny how you started playing funk type stuff immediately on the Les Paul as opposed to the Strat. Interesting. Love it.
@daveclinton4945
@daveclinton4945 3 ай бұрын
You're a great player! The Tonemaster sounds pretty good, when you make allowances for the modern comforts- weight, attenuator, etc. Nice job!
@coreycongilio
@coreycongilio 3 ай бұрын
hey thanks!
@mrmoa
@mrmoa Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this. I have an original ‘68 deluxe and have tried out several tonemasters. I’m thinking of picking one up, mainly for the weight. But there is something about the tube amp that isn’t there with the TM … sounds a little more 3D somehow. One thing is that to me all the tonemaster units sound the same - which is a tribute to their quality control. But I like the fact that my ‘68 deluxe sounds different than someone else’s ‘68
@moitoieuxnous1648
@moitoieuxnous1648 Жыл бұрын
Its true.. but also the tube amp are fucking noisy to record compare to zero noise with the solid state.
@mattiv1
@mattiv1 Жыл бұрын
@@moitoieuxnous1648 have you checked if your guitar heroes used quiet instead of noisy amps?
@Oxmyx01
@Oxmyx01 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've been thinking about the Tone Master as a substitute for my real '68 when gigging. Looks like it will do well and provide some weight relief.
@TheSloopOrion
@TheSloopOrion Жыл бұрын
You are so right! They are not the same thing. I tried to get used to the Twin Reverb TM. It just wasn't the same, but it really sounded great at home. For me, on stage it just a different feel to it.
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