Coriolanus: Universal Soldier - Summer of Shakespeare

"A Place Calling Itself Rome." Shakespeare goes to war.
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[@theBigBadBonobo]

"There is a huge gap between military life and civilian life, and ever soldier has known that since Homer first told a story about a man's impossibly long journey to come home from war." Congratulations, you've forced me to re-evaluate my entire understanding of the Odyssey. Props.

[@falloutghoul1]

That was my "Holy Shit" moment, too. The whole thing was an analogy.

[@inapickle806]

Yep. That's often used as the explanation for his 7 years with Circe in particular- he needed to be recivilized or work through his trauma.

[@graceskerp]

You might want to read Tennyson's Ulysses. An old swab at the end of his days remembering the heroic times. He was still sailing that wine dark sea.

[@potterj09]

Hahahaha. the best :)

[@Serraphyst1]

Another point is that the Balkans was for centuries one of the major parts of the Byzantine Empire, and its people considered themselves "Romans" long after the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the city of Rome itself. Thus, "A Place Calling Itself Rome".

[@sophiaro4593]

0 99 99

[@notdeadjustyet8136]

Not serbian people though. Serbia was never part of the byzantium 🙃 it was a separate kingdom ♥️

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Not only the Byzantines who have the most legal backing, Spain, Russia, France, the HRE and the Ottomans all Called themselves Romans. There is also the idea called Translatio Imperii the idea of history being a succession of Great Empires, its based on the Book of Daniel story about the Mesopotamian King being granted a dream. In his dream he saw a Statue made of 4 Materials, a later Christian Saint saw this as a metaphore for 4 great empires Golden Head = Mesopotamia Body of Silver = Persia Belly of Bronze = Macedonia Legs of Iron = Rome Rome is seen in this interpretation as "the Restrainer" the Empire that keeps the Anti-Christ from ending the world prematurely, this as you can probably now tell is the origin of the way people describe a powerful Country as a powerful Ancient Empire and in the West its usually Rome.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@notdeadjustyet8136 yeah but close enough and Serbia was Conquered by another State that Called itself Rome, The Ottomans. (The Ottomans saw themselves as Roman after they Conquered Byzantium.)

[@deviousalemanni4235]

​@@notdeadjustyet8136it was part of it for a long time. Even to this day it was longer part of rome than it ever was serbian.

[@godzillasaurbuttersworth3176]

Look man, it's a Shakespeare tragedy It's gotta be equal parts homoerotic and bloody

[@ddraigtribe8768]

fair play mate. I served in Afghanistan in 2010, finished in the Army in 2018 and after a career switch into performance I am near the end of my first run of shows at Shakespeare's Globe Theatre. I appreciate the level of research and sensitivity you put into this video, especially your comments on the effects of war that you say is something you haven't been involved in directly. Good work

[@JaesadaSrisuk]

On a side note, I would totally watch a romance movie about a couple played by Ralph Fiennes and Gerard Butler.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Justice J. Srisuk It would be incredible

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

A romance set in a place calling itself Brokeback Mountain.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

If you watched this movie, then you just did lol

[@sophiaro4593]

Wouldn't we all

[@L1701]

They're super-spies who are also loving family men. Would be a fun movie.

[@1987MartinT]

While he was certainly not a guiltless man I still consider Coriolanus to be a tragic figure. He returned from war ruined as a human, was granted honors he deserved, was destroyed by political enemies, was cast into exile only to be taken in by his former wartime enemies, sought vengeance against his traitorous home, brought peace to the warring nations and for his troubles was murdered by his allies.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

1987MartinT “Destroyed by political enemies”? You mean OTHER PEOPLE? He was such a violent, misanthropic, abrasive asshole that he couldn’t HELP himself but scream at crowds of people when he figured it was convenient.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@Randy Aniel Y’sure?

[@anon-il9qf]

Yep that is the point

[@FreedomSpirit108]

This movie/play helped me so much after my time in the Marines. The hallow gratefulness you receive for doing unspeakable things or the medals and honers that are utterly worthless. I miss the simplicity of war and fear idleness.

[@Persnikity-yv3nh]

I'm surprised you didn't punctuate the "they should kiss" joke with the moment Coriolanus and Aufidius actually DO kiss in the Donmar version :P

[@Uroshius]

Being from Belgrade, I can only say this: the war of the '90es never touched the city. Yes, we were "mercifully" bombed in '99, but the war itself never got here, so no, these streets haven't seen gunfire since WW2. That's just bad research.

[@daca8395]

Zgrada RTS-a?

[@LtHavoc1983]

The Combat Uniforms in this movie are NOT British, they are distinctly looking like current issue US Army ACUPAT, worn by the US Army in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Dress Uniforms seem to be a mix of British and (east)German in nature, specially the grey uniforms with the berets seem to look like German Officer uniforms, while the Rebel State fighters seem to be mostly based on the looks of various factions seen in the wars that followed the collapse of Yugoslavia.

[@falloutboy33]

***** Their equipment are also American. British have L85 as standard issued infantry rifles, not an AR15 variant. Although the ones in the movie is too short to be American standard issued M4s, but that might just be a slight oversight due to availability of props.

[@hedgehog3180]

@@falloutboy33 I mean it could also be on purpose, they didn't want it to clearly be the same weapon maybe.

[@hedgehog3180]

The dress uniforms also kinda look like Marine Corp dress uniforms.

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@hedgehog3180 The USMC dress blues share a lot of commonality with some British dress uniforms.

[@matthewfortuna4464]

You nailed it when you said big C isn't a fascist or a member of any party. He's simply a soldier who was so successful he worked his way up into leadership. It's not that simple but at the same time it is. The kind of person that becomes big C, simply can't relate to a non soldier.

[@ProfessorTomNook]

at 2:06 through 2:27, I was waiting for Kyle to riff "We'll do it live! Fuck it! We'll do it live!"

[@drewhara8953]

HAHA

[@MsDjessa]

I actually understand Coriolanus a little. For someone who hasn't actually been in a war. But my father was reserve Vääpeli (a Finnish military rank) with lots of guns in the house. He is also an alcoholic and couple of times did stupid things with the guns. I also was in the army for a while myself. And I got to say I don't really have a notion of life without fear and danger much like Coriolanus. At first this was crippling, hence I could not finish my service but recently I have embraced this side of me and feel like it suites me well. And much like Coriolanus I don't see another way to exist. Also I often have difficulties understanding and relating to those who haven't been trough the same. In fact one of my closest friends is from Iran. She and I both know what it is like to grow up fearing every move you make and every word you say. I because of a drunk gun nut and she because of theocracy.

[@MsDjessa]

***** Doesn't sound bad at all.

[@chazzwozzio]

Tom Jackson try his romantic comedies ^-^

[@trollking99]

Many German soldiers after WW1 felt something similar. Even though Germany had surrendered, the actual German armies had not been defeated. Thus what happened was a whole generation of German men, who had spent years fighting in the trenches, was suddenly thrust into a peaceful world to which they could not easily adapt. Men who only knew to be warriors, then went on to join the Freikorps, then eventually to WW2.

[@chazzwozzio]

Tom Jackson you... missed the point completly

[@trollking99]

***** Yes the warring continued in different forms, but as a result of the German vet who could not sit still in peace. Unlike the allies who considered themselves the victors and were glad to go home, the Germans had not been defeated, it was the government that had surrendered. This is where the whole stabbed in the back idea came from that was used to great effect by the National Socialists later.

[@revengeofthedrivein]

This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and definitely one of the best adaptations of Shakespeare.

[@ArinThemb0]

I do see "the place that calls itself Rome" as a statement on the repetition of history. The armor may change, the weapons may change, but the two struggling sides and the soldiers being forever changed amidst the turmoil of war do not and like it often is, we are condemned to repeat history until the very end

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

Mikołaj Czerbak War... War never changes

[@MakkalTK]

Great analysis. I really enjoyed this. I did a paper on Coriolanus at uni, and it quickly became one of my favorite Shakespeare plays - and a play that I find myself re-reading more often than the other great tragedies. (once you get over the hilarious fact that the play has the word "anus" in the title)

[@amandaholland7446]

that "irish peter capaldi" is james nesbitt, who played bofur in the hobbit! (and a bunch of other things, but that's the most pop-culture role he's played)

[@MyelinProductions]

GREAT Overview and Excellent Critique. As a production company we are always mindful & in tuned, or try to be, with the perceptions and suppositions of the audience, while still trying to portray accurate truthful drama. Well Done and very useful!

[@katedoes...9783]

Love seeing you on KZbin and loving Summer of Shakespeare.

[@Pratchettgaiman]

Your point about how in the West we're used to all-volunteer armies and fighting war on foreign soil makes me really want to see an Israeli version of Coriolanus, where neither of those things are true

[@EladLerner]

David Lev As an Israeli watching this, I raised an eyebrow over the whole "here in the West" bit. Am I not in the Western world? Regardless, if anything this review gave me was the will to seek how we deal with PTSD here. You'd think that being as war-torn as we are, we'd always hear stories about that. But nothing springs to mind right away. I know there was a great disillusionment after Yom Kippur War about horrors of war. I'd have to read up on that.

[@Popcultureguy3000]

elad lerner There's a rotoscoped animated film from Israel that specifically deals with this. It opens with a dream sequence in which a horde of ravenous rabid dogs are running the streets, gathering more and more dogs as they run through the streets. Does anyone know the name of this film?

[@Pratchettgaiman]

Popcultureguy3000 Waltz with Bashir, about the First Lebanon War (the one in the 80s)

[@Popcultureguy3000]

David Lev Thank you!

[@SilverFeet]

+David Lev interesting. It could also go into the question of whether Palestinian lands constitutes "foreign soil" for Israeli soldiers.

[@JakeJonRoberts]

I'm probably one of the only people who is anti-war but also liked American Sniper, and what you were saying about Coriolanus' inability to understand peace relates a lot to the film version of Chris Kyle. It's likely not accurate to real life, but in the film, Kyle's arc is all about getting away from conflict and reintegrating himself into society, and how the inability to do that, to deal with the life many soldiers have to live after serving, compels him to return to combat. It's only when he is very near death that he decides life outside of war is worth living, and thus, returns to his family for good, and fights a new fight: for the right for soldiers to live normal lives after war. But his life is tragically cut short by someone whose trauma prevented him from ever reaching the same epiphany that Kyle himself reached. For all the good that Kyle, in this film, tries to do for his fellow soldiers, there are some whom war irrevocably changes, and puts past a point of no return. In my eyes, it's a very chilling, sobering narrative about the psychology of a soldier, and while certainly there's issues pertaining to how honestly it portrays Chris Kyle, the actual person, I don't think those issues ultimately skew what Clint Eastwood was conveying. Regardless, really good video, Kyle. Thumbs up!

[@docdave15]

+Jake Roberts Yeah, I'm ultimately anti-war and I liked the film as well. I highly doubt Clint Eastwood would make a "'murica fuk ya!' movie that was about killing "brown men." I mean this is a guy who made a movie which featured the line, "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. This is also a guy who spoken up for minorities, especially guys like Native Americans. His movies very rarely have a "hero," Kyle was never portrayed as heroic in the film. Pretty much everytime he took a shot (especially at women and kids) there was some hesitation and it haunted him and effected his home life. Now, do I think it was a great movie? Not really. But I don't see it as this piece of racist propaganda some are claiming it as. And I would have nominated a different film for best picture at the Oscars instead of this film.

[@musicalDrebin]

I like you're points sir but I ask you what evidence is there that Chris Kyle is a psychopath? His work with vets at the VA is well known and backed up by first hand accounts. He had a wife and kids that loved him dearly. and there are hundreds of people in the military who will back up the fact that his sniping save untold numbers of American lives. and there is documented evidence of his involvement with the tracking down of AQI's leadership. I want to reiterate that this is not an angry comment, as I said I liked your analysis, but it just seems to me that a great number of people who call this guy's character into question have never even read his book, and seem to have a lack of understanding about the Iraq conflict, and the military in general. and just to clear one thing up (and I apologize for the longevity of this comment slash question) I assure you most people who enjoy the movie are anti war like most other civilized people

[@CplAnguadaEarth]

Chris Kyle certainly and verifiably was a soldier with 160 kills, a Silver star, and additional Bronze stars, but he also verifiably lied about many things, including that he had two Silver Stars and that he punched Jesse Ventura. He also claimed unverifiable things, which are more numerous than I can list, and he claimed these not just in person but in a book he published. Jesse Ventura's lawsuit and internal Navy documents confirm this. Regardless of your opinion of the Iraq War or the guy personally, Chris Kyle continued to lie about aspects of his service. The SEAL leadership allowed this because of his celebrity and because of the genuinely impressive parts of his record. Some people also find his worldview a little difficult to connect to, which I think is part of what the video is talking about. I can't really speak to what the other commenter thought, but just what I know about the facts.

[@petercahill6696]

I can't say I'm anti-war as much as I am vehemently critical of US imperialism, but I actually liked American Sniper as well. With that being said, I only watched it once while it was in theaters, so my opinion may change with a second viewing after a few years.

[@reddeathmonster]

Third time I watch this video. Very well made, great job Kyle!

[@AngryIrishBenjamin]

Oh hello King T'Chaka.

[@DwRockett]

Love this analysis. Both funny and insightful

[@summbuddie9120]

Coriolanus is my fathers favourite play, maybe even piece of literature ever. He has only seen it staged once and it stuck with him ever since.

[@skippertrey]

Hearing you mention The Hunger Games several times in this video got me thinking: would you consider doing a video on the literary and historical allusions in The Hunger Games in honor of its final movie?

[@HyaenusDominae]

+Trey Northcutt Dude, this series is called "Brows Held High". I don't think The Hunger Games is his MO.

[@KyleKallgrenBHH]

+HyaenusDominae Dude, did you see me spend eighteen minutes talking about The Avengers? Blockbusters are not even remotely off the table for me.

[@HyaenusDominae]

KyleKallgrenBHH My apologies. It seems I projected my snobbery onto you.

[@henshinplex]

+KyleKallgrenBHH what about watership down or metropolis (original or the anime or a comparison)

[@davidstumpfl5889]

YES!!!!! PLEASE!!!! I NEED MORE GERMAN EXPRESSIONISM!!!!! also Fritz Lang is just awesome!

[@steepertree]

James Newbitt (the Capaldi-like actor) was very good in Jekyll. He's rather wasted as one of the dwarves (Sneezy, I think) in The Hobbit.

[@Popcultureguy3000]

Stephen Persing I loved Jekyll. James Nesbitt made that show.

[@docdave15]

+Stephen Persing His dwarf had some sort of personality, compared to other who seemed to have personalities but Jackson didn't do anything with them.

[@Shadowman4710]

He was excellent in "Murphy's Law" as well.

[@steepertree]

Nesbitt, not Newbitt.

[@jdprettynails]

James Nesbitt is a highly underrated actor. Yet, I'll always remember him fondly as Incompetent Dad in the Yellow Pages adverts.

[@Low0rbit]

Looks like you're about to boil in that jacket! When I volunteered at a local access TV station it would get hot as hell and we gave the host an ice pack to sit on. You couldn't tell looking at him and your setup looks pretty similar, maybe give it a shot?

[@SoleMan117]

When this was first posted on the original Blip website, there was a very interesting comment about the nature of "surgical war," and how it affects military veterans. I watched this right after his video on "the forbidden room," about the nature of lost information, and I find it interesting that one of the most important aspects of the video has simply been lost in so short a time.

[@danjenkinson696]

Good vid, low key furious you called James Nesbitt “this actor”

[@ozlemdenli7763]

great video. thank you

[@joey_bag_a_donuts]

Ralph did such an amazing job in this film. I almost shed tears, the dialog was so personal. it kinda captures strong emotions that we have all felt and presents them to you in firey tragedy that could only be shakespear.

[@phillipschmidt6295]

You are amazing.

[@AlanCampbellFilm]

great episode.

[@marijakrigere9985]

Thank you, Kyle for reviewing Coriolanus. It’s one of mine personal Shakespeare favorites and I would love you to return later to this subject - there still are lots of unexplored motives. At first the play is sooooo ancient republican Roman that I squealed in delight while reading it for the first time and you shouldn’t view characters through the modern perspective. Coriolanus himself is a roman war aristocrat, too overidealistic for his own age and society. He has been born, raised and trained (Volumnia does not cease to proudly remind us about it) too serve Rome as a soldier, to gladly sacrifice his life for the good of the Great city. That’s what he’s been told and taught to do all his life, an excels at it. He’s highly demanding of himself and of the rest of Roman citizens (citizens only, the slaves and foreigners are on too low level to count with their views for such a proud and patriotic roman person) and it wounds ‎Gaius deep in the heart to know that they down wish to serve Rome, but only their personal goals and are much more inclined to do anything dishonorful to save their own asses or gain financial or political profit and being a general, he yells all of his thoughts at them with no respect, just like as he used to yell at the soldiers. And such a fanatical idealist is thrown by the ambitions of his mother in to the viper pit, which is the senate. Coriolanus doesn’t understand politics, nor diplomacy, only battle. That’s why he fails - its not his ground to fight. Seasoned politics ate him in how long? Three days time? The only reason why he even did this, despite his own will, is his mother, who’s character is in need of a deeper analysis (mine is just a brief one). Exiled out of Rome, he runs around feeling abandoned, like a watchdog thrown out for barking too loud biting an unexpected friend, and come to an only person out of Rome who actually has some relation to him. Caius Marcius betrays Rome, because he percepts himself betrayed. Volumnia is a Roman matron with all the restrictions of this status, but first of all she is a strong, passionate woman with leadership qualities and hunger for achievement but the only field society allows her to realize her potential is inside her own small family. As we can deduce from the play Gaius until the marriage to an appropriate, shy and obedient wife from a good faily, who will no doubtedly obey her husband and especially mother-in-law (yet another Roman ideal), was Volumnias only family. We got no mention of the father, he must have died a long time ago. Maybe he died serving the country? Society demands her to raise her only son to be strong and vigilant, and selfless, else how the a matron can earn respect in Rome? Only by presenting the country with deacenty raised and educated male offspring, best a hero. And that is what she dedicates her life for, to bathe in glory of her boy, because she can’t earn her own. Thats why when presented with an opportunity for Gauis, who had recently earned a great victory, to raise even higher, to gain more glory, more power, to become a senator, she uses all of her (gigantic) influence to make him do it, deliberately blind to the fact that he is comletely unfit for the task and protesting (he did well in military, she thinks, this must be so much easier, she might have sought). As the result of such parenting Volumnia gets the honor of being the mother of the hero, but is is satisfying to be a mother of a dead hero? It obviosly rips her heart out to sacrifice her only child’s life for the good of Rome. Will she live through this tragedy? Wills she continue to raise her grandson in the same fashion? Coriolanus is a tragedy not only of the title character, but of his mother too, a conflict that can be summariesed as idealists vs real society. I personally prefer Donmar theatrical version to Fiennes war movie, because they took the time to explore this side of the play too. And because of Hiddelstone’s immense talent (and eyes, and cheekbones, and muscles, and charisma of course…), and more Ancient Roman (but not enough authentic for my taste) atmosphere. It’s a question of individual perception, but Coriolanus and machine guns don’t mix well on the screen. We can only dream of an authentic Ancient Roman “Coriolanus the movie” with Tom as the lead… Actually, with a good script and directing in may be a financially successful project. Wish someone told this to Hollywood bosses.

[@marijakrigere9985]

Mary Kriger sorry must have revised this before posting, too many mistakes. Ups.

[@floraposteschild4184]

+Mary Kriger I've always thought of Coriolanus as the tragedy of a man formed to be an ideal of his society, which in Rome's case was an ideal killing machine. They worship him, and want him to lead him, but when reality sets in, no, they don't want someone so pure and uncompromising. And so, for peace, he has to die. And his son, who is being formed on the same ideal, will take his place.

[@doctorstrangelove8815]

You can't see what you don't know to look for.

[@DIAbycmgm]

I tried to click away but I could not. You are good sir, very good. Also, this is my second viewing as I try to unpack this.

[@BaroquerChick]

oooh but they've got Jon Snow on a pastiche of the BBC set, it's so uncomfortable.......

[@benmcfee]

11:15 No, Kyle, not "depending on your view of the war". Depending on your view of Chris Kyle through his own words. The man not only bragged about shooting civilians during Hurricane Katrina, but it turns out that the incident never even happened. Not sure which is worse. That's not to mention the smear he did against Jesse Ventura where Chris Kyle claimed he'd knocked Ventura out in a bar for claiming he was happy that American soldiers died in Iraq. Also an incident that never happened. You can loathe Chris Kyle, and the movie about him, without ever mentioning the Iraq war.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

benmcfee But the war certainly doesn’t help.

[@benmcfee]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick You're right. It definitely didn't help, and once you begin mentioning the war, it opens up a whole new can of worms.

[@jcaique]

He said he shot ARMED ROBBERS. To say you judge him through his own words only to then change what he said is beyond disingenuous.

[@potterj09]

The best part of this film is that knife fight at the end, which has alot of realism to it to be honest.

[@8523wsxc]

I love this movie to death.

[@Reticulosis]

I love this movie, I didn’t really know Shakespeare. I saw this movie and immediately identified where Coriolanus was coming from. He is a human that by his own sacrifice to serve his city state has become an alien to the same people he fought to protect. After getting out of the army I felt like this. I love the scene where he lashes out “You common cry of curs!” He lashes at the ungrateful people who he has protected, all the things he willingly sacrificed yet theses people can’t be bothered to forego the slighted comfort, they spit at him and turn their backs on him and don’t think that if it was not because of men like him they be sold as slaves. And then you point out he is protofascist… we shit, I didn’t see that coming. I have seen this movies dozens of times and I never saw it from that point. Wtf does that say about me.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

Kyle, your timing is uncanny.

[@GriffinPilgrim]

The cast for this movie was as impressive as actors of their experience should be but I have to say I was impressed with Jon Snow. I mean I knew the man could deliver real news with integrity like no-one else but who knew he could do Shakespeare?

[@meraakyaa]

Brilliant analysis. Thank you for sharing!

[@TheGuilkato]

I kind of want to watch this now.... Though totally thought based on your videos title that one of the many many universal soldier sci-fi/action films must have lifted a Shakespeare plot

[@jdprettynails]

"Dealing with food shortages, violence and constant belligerent neighbouring governments isn't something familiar to most Brits..." Oof. That line didn't age well....

[@Galvion1980]

ouch! *sending solidarity to the brexit-stricken isles*

[@chelseeez]

thanks for this! I was curious how Coriolanus Snow of The Hunger Games series was similar to Shakespeare’s Coriolanus. And the similarities are very interesting, such as the opposition to popular rule/democracy

[@theonemantrainwreck]

one observation id like to make about the film (witch im writing in an sa about corialanus) is that in this version i dont think he truly hates the people. i think that he has a somewhat noble intent. i think that he feels like Rome needs a leader of his military prowess to forge a stable foundation for the Roman nation in his opening monologue when he confronts the people he sound more questioning then accusatory. he makes the point (one minute you feel this way the nest minute the other) and the comments he makes about the people seem more seid out of pure frustration then legitimate contempt. he sounds more frustrated that the people dont understand what hes trying to do.

[@swagner15333]

Coriolanus is a dope ass play and movie.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

The "a Place Calling itself Rome" theme actually has a long history in itself. After the West fell the Eastern Half made up of Greek Speakers became the only Roman Empire but the capital was no longer Rome but instead Constantinople but the State and People still Called itself Roman. Later the Holy Roman Empire is formed they then Developed the Ideology of Translatio Imperii the Idea of histoey being a sucession of Great Empires, this developed based on the Biblical Story of Nebakanser, King of Mesopotamia having a dream, The dream had the King See a Statue made of 4 Metals. A later Christian Saint Interpreted this as 4 Great Empires which are as follows, Golden Head = Mesopotamia Body of Silver = Persia Abdomen of Bronze = Macedonia Legs of Iron = Rome It also says that Rome is the Restrainer preventing the Anti Christ from prematurely starting Armaggedon. (This in the HRE's eyes made them True Heirs to the Roman Legacy.) After the fall of Byzantium many States began laying Claim to the title of Roman Emperor, The Ottomans by Virtue of Conquest, The HRE bases on Translatio Imperii, (which later fell to Napoleonic France) Spain based on the Will of the Last Byzantine Emperor and Russia who based it on a Marriage to a Byzantine Princess. And from then On as new Grander Empires began to form People now still call them all "Rome"

[@daca8395]

9:20 Parlament! 9:22 No, he didn't. He worked 100 meters down the street! 9:25 there hasn't been a war on the streets of Belgrade since 1944 9:32 that is a flag of Serbian royalist army during WW2, so that is probubly real futige.

[@LtHavoc1983]

Also, cant wait to see what you think about "Forbidden Planet", its one of the classic sci-fi movies that would inspire Star Trek and many other sci-fi movies and series.

[@benjaminmcelroy6894]

This video is so old but I keep coming back to it lol. I would like to add Menenius to me seems very in love with Coriolanus (although In text he's supposed to be like a father figure) I played him younger and head over heels for Coriolanus when I did the show.

[@JaesadaSrisuk]

Bryce Dallas Howard WISHES she had Jessica Chastain’s talent, gravitas and career.

[@Sigmundfruit]

Godwin's law actually pisses me off, he didn't think of the law, he just arbitrarily declared it his. New rule, comparing something's obviousness to the color of the sky is now Robert's Law

[@paddingtonbrown6703]

Unless you think TS Eliot is an idiot; he regards Coriolanus as the best Shakespeare play whilst Hamlet is but a Mona Lisa of literature.

[@Wargoat6]

*applause*

[@swagner15333]

What most civilians miss about soldiers having trouble adjusting is that we actually enjoyed the war and come home not to understand our purpose or why anything matters. Not that war is a good thing, but being a soldier/warrior is a great thing.

[@Stew_Pid]

KISS!!!!!!

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Love Jason Nesbitt from his role as Jekyll in the BBC mini series.

[@animationfanatic2133]

9:03 if we only knew

[@ThePa1riot]

You know I wonder if General Patton saw something of himself in Coriolanus, or if he didn't, did others see Corialanus in him?

[@cheaplaffsarefree]

There are similarities, but that's reaching a bit, I think. Patton as portrayed by George C. Scott was obsessed with his public image. Coriolanus doesn't give a single solitary fuck.

[@steviegilliam5685]

I think it's even more of a tragedy knowing centuries later the people would offer Julius ceaser to be emperor

[@jeangove01]

Gaius Marcius Coriolanus was a famous Roman.

[@fatcoyote2]

I was prepared to make a big statement about how war alienates the people who participate in it, but really, that isn't even close. Choosing to serve in an armed service, anywhere, in anytime, where there are healthy, accessible options not to is to join another tribe, another trade, another family. In the US, soldiers are now likely to be the children of soldiers, and even if not, they can and often do see themselves as privileged. They abandon conventional ideas of safety, peace, and security for a more proactive versions of same. If they are currently at peace, safe, sound, it is only through the proper application of force. Combat vets who continue to live and work around other troops, but never again see combat, are WAY less likely to suffer from extreme PTSD.

[@cretansuperbos2121]

One of the strangest things about the army that I noticed was that most of the Infantry that participated in the most brutal fighting were mentally the most of sound, in contrast with the people with a support MOS. One of my best friends was at Fallujah and he's a-okay considering what he saw.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

@@cretansuperbos2121 friend was IED'd 3 times in Afghanistan and Iraq combined, he is otherwise fine but has the occasional "YOU FUCKING WHAT!?" moments

[@snorlax42]

Shakespeare in space! Get hype!!

[@MisterTTG]

CORIOLANUS DOWN THE ROAD THAT I MUST TRAVEL CORIOLANUS THROUGH THE DARKNESS OF THE N-I-IGHT

[@BlackSilver23]

Ralph Fiennes' adaptation of Coriolanus is good, one of the few modernizations of Shakespeare that actually works well. If you get a chance, though, check out the BBC Television Shakespeare version. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Television_Shakespeare#The_Tragedy_of_Coriolanus Aside from a single scene which had an obvious filming obstacle which was not successfully overcome (Act 1, Scene IV; Before Corioli) it is a superb performance featuring Alan Howard, Mike Gwilym, and Joss Ackland.

[@Ubermensch9240]

God I miss the sass in Kyle's videos.

[@kohinarec6580]

I realized I've seen this Coriolanus version. I've also seen Macbeth 2010. Remember the latter better.

[@Sigmundfruit]

you should've done this later on so you could've said "not Kronos, not Altair Ford, not The Pridelands......" would've been so cool

[@berettapaige]

I'm still waiting for Scotland, PA

[@musicalDrebin]

kyle should watch intimate enemies

[@isprobablyjobhunting]

God, those fascists still exist. Some of them are actually in power.

[@Kiezkollege]

Reminds me of Big Boss

[@graceskerp]

I've always thought someone should write a study of Shakespeare the Soldier or at least Shakespeare the Soldier's Voice. Ole Bill got it most of it down pat. Henry V: The way we fight speech, camo'ing that Hal and the aristoes want more land to wring money out of. Paraphrasing one of Patten's troops "His 'honor', our blood." Falstaff's "What is honor?" rant. An ole sarge who has seen one too many kids thrown into the shark tank before they even knew how to swim. Iago the careerist enraged and vengeful about this foreign upstart who got everything that he spent years selling his soul to have. Coriolanus: If you been there, you understand. If not, you never can.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Hey look Bofur

[@WoodstockProd]

Kyle makes a lot of good points here, but i just kind of noticed at the end how sweaty the guy was at the end. What was the AC in his apartment broken?

[@KyleKallgrenBHH]

WoodstockProd The AC in my apartment had to be turned off for sound reasons. :)

[@WoodstockProd]

KyleKallgrenBHH ah, that makes sense! well kudos to you for being committed enough to turn the darn thing off during filming!

[@MutaScale]

+WoodstockProd Know how that feels, summer in New York state sucks ass for filming indoors.

[@MortMe0430]

Revisiting this years later: I can't offer any definitive insight regarding the original Roman history or Shakespeare's interpretation of it, but reflecting on this film's modern reimagining... if it were true to reality, a bigger portion of the rightful blame would fall on the politicians (and specially the industries and lobbying groups that own them) for manufacturing "wars" in the name of economic western interests, the propaganda ruthlessly fed to the demographics recruited to fight those so-called wars, and not bothering to clean up the messes and care for those soldiers that survived being chewed up and spit out. The soldiers themselves do definitely bear some responsibility: in the US, by the UCMJ a service member has a right and a duty to refuse orders that are unlawful, unconstitutional, or lead to criminal acts -- something that all still in should definitely remember and internalize, no matter who is CIC.

[@MadaraUchiha55910]

This makes me think of Rambo’s speech in Rambo First Blood

[@miss1of2]

I HIGHLY recommend Robert Lepage's staging!!!

[@DanielAvelan]

Damn it, I thought you'd correlate Shakespeare to Van Damme's legacy.

[@FillmGeekOfDoom]

What the name of the sexy music at 2:36?

[@lamecasuelas2]

Oh shit! i totally see the sweat now! nah! just kiddin

[@Shafter]

wait wait wait wait wait wait. Is that Ian Rush at 1.09?

[@2071spike]

I can't help but think of the Metal Gear Solid and Gundam franchises when I"m watching this review.

[@overdressed]

A wonderful video, usually I detest spoilers but it is to interesting to stop the video!

[@bobbyshaddoe3004]

Dude, I'd love for you to examine the Scottish play, as done by Polanski and that one version with Patrick Stewart.

[@jbvader721]

What, Macbeth?

[@bobbyshaddoe3004]

@@jbvader721 yeah, that one.

[@jbvader721]

@@bobbyshaddoe3004 Aww, I feel cheated that you didn't respond with the chant from "Blackadder".

[@bobbyshaddoe3004]

@@jbvader721 I dont know the chant from Blackadder, I've never watched Blackadder... yet.

[@jbvader721]

@@bobbyshaddoe3004 You need to remedy that quickly. Look up Blackadder Macbeth on KZbin.

[@criticalhit009]

Something tells me you need an air conditioner ;P

[@notdeadjustyet8136]

Imo,every coriolanus is firs last & always a soldier, who honestly loves people but despises human nature. He's someone who offers deeds rather than words. To me, He's NOT a politician (a manipulative sophist) of any sort (left,right,centre),but he may be a christ stand in ,despised and betrayed by the very ppl he bled for, tricked by the leaders, whilst trying to make peace.(no,i'm not religious🙃 ) coriolanus is one of my fave shakespeare,at least top 5. for some reason i'm not a massive fan of this version, although creative it is indeed. Cheers♥️

[@jamesgeorge7579]

5:25, Nazi Classic Flavor, I will use that term for now on.

[@aveuch]

Iago vs. Aufidius?

[@lilithdentris8637]

Great video! By the way, it's doubtful that coriolanus ever actually existed in Ancient Rome, but who cares....

[@canadmexi]

What's "Commedia grottesca"? I couldn't find any English results.

[@kaksikymmenta3]

Any hope for Hamlet Goes Business (1987)?

[@Popcultureguy3000]

23otaku Is that the satirical one made in Eastern Europe (Sweden I think)?

[@Urkinorobitch]

Could you please spell the name of the american poet that made the epilogue for continental performance, google is not doing very good on this matter sadly.

[@Urkinorobitch]

Nevermind, found it. Jonathan M Sewall (1748-1808), BTW this video is extremely relevant to the current state of affairs, I appreciated it a lot, thanks!

[@seanramsdell4172]

11:59-12:00 Of course

[@Oprey22]

It looks very Balkan. like the late unpleasantness in Bosnia-Serbia-Croatia.

[@devinharbert6071]

Review cosmopolis