People are Hitting Airplanes With Drones and it’s Gonna get Worse | Corridor Cast EP

[@mc-zy7ju]

The scale of the LA wildfires could be the most challenging scale video yet.

[@HacintoTV]

I do exactly what Sam said here. I generate songs with AI with the rhythm, genre, and lyrics that I personally want to hear, and I make them for myself, and I really like the result. But to say that I am an artist or a musician or whatever: that’s a huge absurdity! Giving instructions to an AI to make something for you, in terms of authorship of the result, is the same as giving instructions to a human to do something for you. You are not the creator if you didn’t create the work. I repeat: giving instructions is not the same as creating. Telling a bricklayer to lay bricks doesn’t make you the builder of the house, you didn’t build the house: you told someone else to build it. I think the same applies to generative AIs. You are not the creator of anything unless you do it. Telling someone else to write a book for you doesn’t make you a writer. And I’m not anti-AI, in fact, I love using AI, but I don’t consider myself an artist just because I tell an AI to create an illustration of Wren riding a dragon while fighting with a render that threatens to collapse the GPU. I love you guys! And I wish you a SUCCESSFUL 2025!

[@VIARideas]

That's a good point of view

[@ArifRWinandar]

Like how a person with a camera can take beautiful pictures of a statue but that doesn't make that person a sculptor.

[@AlleonoriCat]

@@ArifRWinandar It's not really that, it's more like you ask someone to sculp something for you and then tell everyone you've done it yourself

[@ArifRWinandar]

@@AlleonoriCat Well yeah, that's why the photographer who took the picture of the statue don't tell people he's the sculptor, that's just as ridiculous.

[@esaedvik]

A tech content creator, Bitwit, lost his house in the Eaton fire. He was at CES whilst it happened, but his GF got his cats out. Everything else went up in smoke. He's posted a few videos of the aftermath out there. Sad to see :/

[@NateDulcimer]

Very sobering video, for sure. Outside the sheer destruction of neighborhoods, one part that stuck out to me was when he found some key rings, and some of the keys had completely melted. I did not think a natural fire would reach such intense temperatures

[@TheCinemattographer]

Happy new year to the crew 😎

[@PCWARRIORDUDE]

You guys always add some cheer to the week. Thank you!

[@OriginalFerangi]

so good to see the boys back. was waiting for this

[@henrylanglois]

new year same listening habits

[@aleksimeronen958]

Regarding the AI vs. art topic, I think I have a good comparison. I know a person who was studying art. When they had a composition excercise, she was on her way to getting full marks, until she admitted she just physically dropped the pieces on the backdrop and fastened them where they fell. She ended up receiving zero marks, due to not making any decisions on the art-piece she made.

[@KingCeryn]

If your art is “upload other people’s art, train Chat LLMs to sort “keywords” to store a database of stolen art, to then use when prompted for “cyber waifu babes,” and pull shapes colors and whole-cloth elements from those pictures, into a NEW picture,” That’s not art. That’s just theft. Even a collage requires WORK. Asking a chatbot to “organize your prompt into keywords, and steal those” does not.

[@KingCeryn]

@@ArifRWinandar it costs me $0 to make the animations I do for work. My minimum rate is 1k. Is that a scam? It’s not about that- it’s about THEFT. AI is THEFT.

[@ArifRWinandar]

@@KingCeryn Sorry I deleted my comment, turned out the point I was making was already made by Wren in the video, so I don't want to be redundant lol

[@aleksimeronen958]

@@KingCeryn I don’t disagree on that, but I get that there is the whole ”AI is just one more tool” argument also, and certainly it can be used like that. In those use cases there needs to be some creative effort made. E.g. the anime rock-paper-scissors 2, where they trained the model on an artstyle drawn by an artist to specifically be used in that project. If there’s only a prompt, and whatever the machine spits out is the end result, there is no real creative effort, hence the anecdote of dropping the pieces on the canvas. Something at least semi-random happened, and that was that. Circling back to what I believe Sam was trying to convey, if there is no effort made, and the work received is to its core only derivative, why would you not do the prompts and invoke the randomness (or theft) yourself, rather than pay someone else.

[@KingCeryn]

@ no. There is no argument for “it’s just a tool.” Using ChatGPT to learn skills? Sure. That’s a tool. Typing WORDS into a box, which then gets formatted into KEYWORDS, which are then used to reference STOLEN ARTWORK, to create a new simulacra assembled from pieces of those stolen images- whether it’s the background, foreground, color or “style- Is not “just another tool.” It’s theft. Period.

[@EdLrandom]

you can really tell that Sam makes music in this talk about Spotify

[@EpecFale]

Do not fly drones in a disaster area. We had people flying drones during the Spring Creek Fire in CO and it shut down air ops for a day.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Yep

[@FireJach]

indeed, that playlist is great to listen, even the playlist thumbnail is awesome - a dark fantasy knight hugging a teddy bear ;D

[@Triflixfilms]

Sam said album art isn't the art so it's okay but how deep can you reduce it? Is writing the lyrics the art, or is playing the instruments the art, do I have to remix or remaster the AI song to be art? Is sampling someone else music art with or without permission okay? How much does someone have to manipulate the AI output before it becomes transformative and make its way to Spotify? Suno v4 is so good that I unironically make music with it that I enjoy and will listen to instead of Spotify. My friends and I all make songs with it and send them to each other and adding them to our playlists. The only downside with AI music right now IMO is that I cannot add the songs to my spotify playlist where the rest of the music I listen to lives. I still love artists and listen to them on Spotify but sometimes I (someone with no musical talent) just want to write some lyrics about how I am feeling that day, chorus/verse/entire song, and vibe to it. I do not think I am a 'musical artist' when I use suno, but to say there is no art that goes into writing the lyrics is a bit gatekeepy. Sidenote: Using Suno I made a lead opera singer and an entire choir of people sing about the 'male member' and a stadium of people clap every time the singer takes a breath. It rivals Rob Cantor & Shia LaBeouf in absurdity and made me laugh just as hard as when I watched their video 10 years ago. I assure you I would never in my lifetime have had the time, money, or resources to bring that satirical vision to life with real people. An AI song made me feel a more intense emotion than most songs by real artists and I think that is pretty dang cool. - Tristan

[@KingCeryn]

“What happens when it AI sounds as good as real artists?” Wren, the moment that happens WITHOUT stealing and feeding existing music from Spotify and SoundCloud into their models, you can answer that question lol. AI music trained on stolen music is not “being as good as human music” lol.

[@AlleonoriCat]

the moment people's art stops feeding the AI generation is the moment where generated stuff turns into ultra shit

[@KingCeryn]

@ oh no…anyways

[@taser42]

You need to test Deadlock!

[@JasonandaCamera]

Drone pilot here! Just copying some key points from DJI's blog post regarding their removal of the geofencing system. "The GEO system has also not been removed; warning zones and in-app alerts remain in place to continue educating pilots on safe flight operations." "...previous "No Fly Zones" (NFZs) often placed an unnecessary burden on operators... they were still required to submit an application to DJI and wait for manual review and an unlocking license. This process could result in missed opportunities... unnecessary waiting times. This was especially challenging for commercial operators, drone businesses - and most critically - public safety agencies performing lifesaving work" "Previously, the global geofencing system relied on ICAO Annex 14 configurations for airspace around airports, which did not always align with official FAA data. This mismatch caused confusion... By displaying official FAA data, this update ensures operators can view airspace as the FAA intends, clearly understanding where they can and cannot fly."

[@Vaeldarg]

How many instances of these drones being used by Chinese students have been caught spying on U.S military infrastructure, again? Such drones would normally be geo-fenced from such locations.....It's almost like they get incentivised/threatened by China's government into doing so while abroad. (edit: Also, companies in China don't have any recourse against the government telling them to do anything it asks....who owns DJI again....)

[@Vaeldarg]

(looks like my original comment disappeared...) The short of it was it is no coincidence that those who have been caught flying over military structures tend to be flying DJI drones and being citizens of a certain authoritarian regime. They tend to be coerced/incentivised in some way for why they take the risk.

[@OriginalFerangi]

tim miller react coming soon? also if you could ask about his collab with Joe Abrocrombe movie that would be sweet

[@NRay7882]

Corridor should have a watch party for Secret Level

[@catpack12]

Niko kinda avoided the a.i. question here. He seems to kinda have an agenda about a.i. and ignores what they are really trying to get at here. Just because it's good and took time doesn't make it ethical. And spending some hours to get good prompts and doing some extra editing on an a.i. image still isn't the same as an artist who has spent like decades of their life developing a style or practice.

[@LeoMastro98]

aside from the fact that the companies are making money off of stolen art since they have to fill the database with it. I was okay with the Ai stuff when it was about deepfakes that they used their own pictures on and maybe a movie with people that already got paid but companies are taking stuff from all over the place without giving the people that make the whole LLM thing possible in the first place not even a single penny. This whole thing is basically the wild west of we haven't gotten to the point at which we regulate capitalists doing capitalists things and laws that have to exist aren't in place yet because the government doesn't understand it and the average joe doesn't understand it and just thinks "robot go bleep bloop and picture happens" instead of "algorithm goes through a load of yes and no questions with set definitions and basically creates a collage with comparisons (basically taking the info and definitions and applying them to a collage) to the database which is full of art that people worked countless of hours on just for some 14 year old who listens to tech bros say that they created it."

[@UtherForgermann]

regarding AI music: it's funny that now we'll need to train AI to recognize AI music so it could be banned from various platforms like Spotify. Then there is even funnier idea of songs being flagged incorrectly "your music is to much like AI generation, go be more creative" xD

[@psykology9299]

Thing is, the majority of drone owners live in more open areas, and a lot of us have neighbours with private airfields which are still registered as restricted airspace even if they barely use them, i got drone for security purposes on my farm and my entire farms airspace is classified as restricted because of my neighbours airfield. If i wasnt able to unfence my drone i wouldnt have been able to use the drone i bought for its purpose

[@redshirtwookiee]

Thing is, most people don't live near airfields. I'd also love to see the data you used to claim that the majority of drone owners love in "more open areas" considering most people live...in cities.

[@ssjenforcer191191191]

How do you all feel about generating AI art to use for a tattoo?

[@ShaunUtter]

If you like the alien nature scenes in Scavengers Reign, I made a supercut: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5fNeZ6tq9l9ic0

[@ashgould1987]

Arnold schwarzenegger voices one episode

[@W0Ndr3y]

To conversation around 36 minute mark. My mom got a picture (from temu I might add) from a friend. It's and image of baby Jesus and Mary and some angles printed on metal disc. Once you look closely you discover it's AI nightmare picture (ie the Jesus has only one eye in middle of a face, Mary is just sort of blob)....

[@colbygeisel7124]

A.I. Art vs Human Art I think boils down to what you think art is supposed to be. Is it just a distraction that looks or sounds nice or is it a culmination of skill, talent, and human expression? A lot of people listening to this podcast are probably biased towards the latter. You want to pay $1000 for a piece of art. Do you pay someone for their skills, craftmanship, and human experience that in return will produce a good product, or do you pay for someone to type a paragraph the size of this comment into a program and click a single button for a product. Personally, I would rather pay for someone's honed craft and unique worldview

[@EdLrandom]

48:11 this will get old quick because it sounds good and theory but all of these NPCs will sound like chat gpt no matter what

[@cowabunga5495]

The definition of what is considered art is not wether or not you can copyright it. If you want to argue about commercialism, capitalism and ethics, then it would likely be better to have to look at working conditions first, not consumers. There is a long history of auto-generated art, generative art, oulipo, Kinetic art, processual and planned composition art and music that is entirely legitimate, experimental and artful. And that was from before modern computing. It's AI that is the problem in how it changes working conditions for creatives, and later on changes what is considered creativity because it lowers the bar.

[@Silvergum]

AI music is disgusting the way it sounds to my ear is so horrendous, I cannot stand it, it is Vile, same goes for basically all AI slop that being said when it's being used to expand what is possible, I find it fascinating I think the key difference may be whether it is being used to impersonate humanity as some Grotesque homunculi or if it's just being used as the Ai that it is. kind of like how I hate fake leather or vinyl wood patterns on chipboard, why can't we just represent things for what they are

[@hardwire666too]

I am full of hate inside. I stuff like Slipknot, Sevendust, and NiN always calm me down. Different strokes? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@chemistrybro_]

Saying that someone who is basically "good" at doing AI image generation, and able to get what they want by being good with the AI tool is "creating art" is crap imo, if I spend like 2 weeks animating a fight between two characters I modelled, and someone else just generates a video that kinda looks the similar they are not an artist, they are not a 3D modeler, try are not a animator.. they did not create art, or create an animation..no matter how good they are at prompting using the till and writing good prompts.. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@CrispysCrafts]

It's a pity the context is so sad because that picture is dope

[@wbennin]

I usually appreciate how you all give context for the subjects you talk about. Giving a little on ramp like that for people not in the industry or not as hip is really great for those of us that are curious about it. But you all went on for like 15 minutes about 2 shows I have never heard of before and gave zero context for. Would have been great if you mentioned anything about the plot, the talent, or even how long it's been out. 🤷‍♂️

[@Luzarioth]

Jim Carrey and funny ? Sorry, those things don't fit together.

[@Dan_Yerlll]

Dude it’s fucking gross how you joked about a whole family dying.

[@CheebsCheeby]

Sam doing his wet blanket routine again.

[@obsidian....]

Wren - Full blown annoying mode today

[@JasonandaCamera]

If you've got nothing nice to say... :/

[@obsidian....]

@JasonandaCamera Yeah, let's not be honest. Because that's helpful. Maybe Wren will see this and notice just how much he's bothering his co hosts

[@melbapeach162]

How? Also those guys are his friends lmao, I'm sure they'd find you and this comment a hell of a lot more annoying than anything Wren said in this podcast.

[@JasonandaCamera]

@ calling someone annoying isn't exactly productive either. Did we watch different videos? He seems the same as always

[@obsidian....]

@JasonandaCamera I'll work on the constructiveness of my criticism, just for you 🙏🏼🤣