Corsair iCUE QL120 vs. ThermalTake Riing Quad 12: Contest of the crazy expensive RGB fans, Part II!

[@2GuysTek]

**Want one?! Get them here!** Corsair iCUE QL120 RGB: amzn.to/3bxyByA Thermaltake Riing Quad 12 RGB:: amzn.to/2zb9Kmq

[@mantecafoo1]

PLEASE help me understand how to apply the effects on the thermaltake software for quad ring, i save my effects, they work, but i cant apply it so that it stays on.... i currently have to use the test play button and leave that on which means i have to leave the app open with the play buttton im next to the timeline options. ANY HELP, PLEASE MAN?

[@post-leftluddite]

You have to use the neon maker software, it's the best on the market for fine grain control. The fact that it uses a timeline allows for endless possibilities

[@DNGLEGENDFF]

What's the better uncle.

[@KayofSpades]

Missed the biggest difference and what makes the QL stands out is how the lighting looks as a pull configuration (AKA how they look from the back).

[@Coltyro1028]

Ahh so thermaltake doesn't have back LEDs does it?

[@TheSnake0444]

@@Coltyro1028 thats correct the quad version does not have that but the riing trio does.

[@TheStereoField]

It’s weird though. Some of the effects, like audio equalizer can only show certain animations on one side or the other. I also just hate those fat translucent rings...but oh well

[@HeLrAiSiNg1]

well the ql might be good on that point but tt quad riing killed ql on radiator cooling cause all what matter is the pressure cooling when you going for watercooling also yes it might be more bright on the ql too but aint worth that much as the riing does with their quad thing cause i found fans exastly like corsairs one with proprietary 6 pin connector with the same lightning frame and center for like 6-15$ per fan and even found one with crystal effect transparent frame they can match with these trident crystal rams or how they are called in the other hand riing is something unique and can play 4 animations simultaneously that i guess wins ppls i even bought 9 quad riings yesterday for the lols ps phanteks sell one of those neon stripes for really cheap they re argb and match alot with riings will buy one or 2 stripes

[@KayofSpades]

@@HeLrAiSiNg1 Dude. Punctuations. Please.

[@Shevanovich]

Thanks for going back and addressing the Thermaltake Quad vs Corsair QL. Respect.

[@2GuysTek]

We messed up, we needed to fix it. :-) Thanks for watching round 2!

[@badmeme6801]

Bruh how are you gonna make a fan with 54 LEDs but just have none in the back? Was excited to get some Riing Quads but looks like I'm gonna be going for the QL120s

[@fynkozari9271]

Riing trio rgb is on both sides, theyre beautiful. I have 3x140mm. But on the riing quad they removed the rgb on the back. Idk why they do this.

[@Xachremos]

I picked up 2 QL140’s for intakes. Damn I was blown away. I’m gonna pick up more 120mm fans for the rest of my system whenever they get back in stock

[@karniskavva]

Hows airflow? Only 1300 rpm seems a bit little for radiator?

[@yousef.al-assaf]

@@karniskavva It's 1500 RPM max

[@radicalxedward8047]

Seriously can’t say enough about comparing RGB _Software_ it’s one of the biggest points of comparison people _should_ be making but most reviews ignore.

[@EmoEmu]

Thank you, based Kevin Smith. This was the exact comparison I was looking for. Addendum: The Thermaltake software lets you save a profile. That can be imported to Razer Synapse which lets you sync them all up as well as all the other brands that work with Razer.

[@stoneylonely6416]

Wow! The quality on this in next level!! Definitely a new sub here! Good work on the video!

[@dimpl3sgaming346]

one big oversite i don't see people talking about is that the Corsair fans look great from behind.

[@gamerelliot6624]

That is very true

[@matzvey4243]

iCUE does control fan rpm, must have a Corsair AIO, Commander Pro or the Commander Core for this to appear in iCUE. Solid vid my man! I slapped your thumb. The one pointing up.

[@kaukey]

Best fan review I have seen on KZbin yet. Nice job!

[@2GuysTek]

Thank you! We appreciate it!

[@radicalxedward8047]

His summary is spot on, ultimately you don’t want to have to run half a dozen different RGB software all the time so go with one you already use if you can.

[@EmoEmu]

One thing that worries me a little is how thick the fan hub has gotten on the TT Riing Quads due to fitting all those LEDs in there. A thick hub would equal a bigger hot-spot behind it right? Makes for a bit more of an uneven cooling.

[@PaganWizard]

In various forums I have read mixed reviews on how well the Corsair Commander Pro pairs up with the QL fans. I have read everything from amazingly well, all the way down to don't waste your money. I want to use 2 QL140 fans, 1 QL120 fan, and some LED strips as well. Can you please do a video showing how well this combination works, or does not work?? Thanks in advance.

[@rezaniazmand4554]

I wish you guys added side by side comparisons of their non rainbow modes, I.e: solid colors, and other effects with a side by side comparison. Imo RGB Rainbow barf is too much, but rgb done right can look very good.

[@natevirtual]

can you see the individual LEDs on the Riing Quads? I have 2 sets of the Riing Plus, and when you look at them head-on, you can see the individual LEDs through the protective white ring around them, I wish they were smoothed out by the ring, I wonder if the Quads have the same issue, if they do, that would defeat the purpose of having aesthetically pleasing fans to being with...

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

I have 6 120mm Riing Trio's, an ARGB waterblock on my CPU and GPU. ARGB RAM and distro plate, and even slight RGB effects on my motherboard. I am sad to say, I have contracted the disease "RGB Fatigue"

[@2GuysTek]

You know, this is a real thing! My most recent build has no RGB in it and it’s partially because of this! We need to start a support group! 😂

[@IssacharLee]

exactly the video I'm looking for, thumbs up

[@dosko9980]

more than everything it sucks that the TTs dont have much of an appearance on their back

[@radicalxedward8047]

I would have liked a more thorough review of the neon maker software. I really like making custom patterns like with Razer Synapse and somewhat with Asus Aura Sync, but iCUE doesn’t let you make custom animations, only custom static patterns.

[@gginstein409]

I know I’m 9 months late on this but the TT fans in this video are compatible with Razer synapse so you can use them the same as your Razer products

[@Masterincommander]

the software would stop me buying the thermaltake easily lmao

[@0xTox]

I just had to pause the video at that point

[@Chamber7891]

Just a suggestion in the beginning of the video you had the fans displayed on the table talking about RGB but the fans were off maybe next time have them on because in the next frame you are talking about the fan noise and rotation and you have them on. Just seems to me a better point if your talking about the RGB and not having them on then talking about noise levels and having the RGB on it feels off in a way but liked your video just a suggestion.

[@Psycrovv]

I love the riign quads and i bought em..but then the controle boxes dident work for more than 3 days....now im gona RMA..i miss the fans :D

[@GreenFlexGaming]

But the QL can do those cool RGB Animations where the light is wondering frome one Fan all the way to the Other

[@badhabit714]

I got the QLs 120.. I love those, I want to marry them. Is the RGB Hub the same as the Lightning Node Core?

[@Maxibaluco]

yeah it is the same

[@Undergroundlaw]

My thermaltake software works every other time I turn in my pc. It says my fans aren’t detected randomly. Going to switch to the Corsair fans!

[@leeeony907]

Informative, beautifully shot, a channel worths hundreds time of current subs.

[@masterblaster6470]

Just bought 6 of TT fans but software is so Bugggggggy. Right now will try to reinstal it as I can not do anything in it.

[@prathameshlabhade]

Please the rgb lighting effects from back side also

[@glutt0n0us]

Really appreciated this review, especially the software aspect

[@2GuysTek]

Thanks! We really appreciate hearing this!

[@AntisepticHandwash]

Great video; very professional and to-the-point.

[@2GuysTek]

Glad you liked it! That's for watching!

[@forthosewhodare7325]

TT Quad Riing is King of RGB. If they can improve on their Neon Maker software to become more intuitive then there will be no competition because nothing comes close to the Quad fans. They were NOT meant for intakes. Because if they add 54 led in the back then the price will be almost double to what is already the most expensive fans in the market. If you want led on both side than go for Corsair or the Trio Riing fans

[@snazzyd6915]

Thorough, well presented and to the point. Insta-subbed!

[@meltedmarshdaddy]

Or just download aura sync, use everything corsair and just replace the rad fans with the thermaltake riing quads and then you can control it all together

[@CassidyHansen]

Great video! One thing I think gets overlooked with RGB stuff is color richness. The Thermaltake stuff looks white washed to me. Maybe they look great in person?

[@mystikast3]

I was thinking the same. Ya it's brighter, but it looks too white

[@yousef.al-assaf]

You are definitely right. Corsair colors have some of the best saturation.

[@jakehancock2888]

Good content but the bar charts are not formatted properly, don't mean to be an ass, but on the airflow chart the m/s should be on the y-axis along with a title on the y-axis e.g. "Airflow (m/s)" not listed individually with each speed. Same applies to the noise chart, the unit should be on the y-axis, so you know it is relevant to that scale, not in the title. Also I think it is important for the noise chart's title to include that it is delta ambient, if someone is not listening and just looking at the data it's misleading at best. I think it would be better to use rpm instead of half and full speed, as then you can use the same excel spreadsheet to build larger graphs for more fans for some more perspective. Finally sound is logarithmic, a 3dB increase is scientifically double as loud, although human perception of a 3dB increase is almost nothing, the perception I guess is what you want to understand when looking to buy a fan, so the linear scale kind of makes sense I guess. I definitely come across as an asshole but it is genuine feedback, that I think atleast will improve content quality. TLDR: I like the camera work, I like the review, but I'd like more professional data presentation.

[@mcvoid_]

Absolutely correct.

[@toshlarue]

Nice video. I just saw someone with the thermaltake. And loved the color. But just ordered the QL120. Happy with my choice. The thermaltake software needs work. Although corsair could update there's too. Thanks this video helped

[@post-leftluddite]

The new Thermaltake neon maker is software, which for some reason they didn't review, is by far the best software on the market and allows a level of fine grain control you can get anywhere else.... It actually allows you to create your own animations on a timeline similar to editing a video, it's definitely software I wish was available for the motherboards and their argb headers

[@JebBrigman]

Great vid my man. Thanks for the great info.

[@radicalxedward8047]

I like the thermaltake ones for the custom animation potential and brighter output, but I already use Corsair RGB ram and the Corsair ones have lights on both sides so it doesn’t matter if you have them setup as intake or exhaust unlike every other fan.

[@radicalxedward8047]

Rushanovic There’s tons of situations where fan mounting positions show the back of the fan...

[@shaolin95]

The TT quads look insane with SignalRGB

[@jimmanis6717]

Any fan losses me when the back and front lighting doesn't match. My 3 bottom fans and Rear I/O fan all blow in leaving the top 3 as exhaust. Due to my loop being GPU and CPU I need the extra fresh air from the I/O to help keep mosfets and etc comfy.

[@gruffalocrumble494]

Great review, many thanks.

[@vintageaudio135]

Good review thanks. I have the thermaltake quads, super nice RGB fans.

[@2GuysTek]

If you don't mind us asking - how are you controlling them? Are you using the RGB TT Plus software or NeonMaker?

[@vintageaudio135]

The pc is just become ready and al PC setting run default also the fans Rainbow, and that is very very nice. After seen this video i don't now what i will do, i stick by raibow but with software i don't now.

[@2GuysTek]

@@vintageaudio135 Customize! Even if the default animations are a bit 'chunky' with the TT software, you can create some really beautiful color schemes!

[@post-leftluddite]

The neon maker software is amazing, especially how it allows you to create custom animations on a timeline similar to editing a video

[@addicted7038]

@@2GuysTek Everyone who bought TT fans are telling that controllers are not detecting sometimes. What do you think about that? I’m thinking to buy 17 Quad fans but still curious.

[@daboiah189]

This video is very good. Thank you ❤️ subbed

[@Mezz2187]

Hi? i am using quad ri and i want to swap xx QL. but i am very confused. can you advise me should i change to QL ??? and between the quad ri and the QL. which one is better?

[@2GuysTek]

They are almost identical performers, so switching out for ‘better performance’ isn’t worth it. Only switch out if you don’t like the software or have started to invest in more Corsair components.

[@stevekalle6969]

Techpowerup has tested fans on radiators and corsair fans are among the worst at cooling in a water loop whereas EK is at the top. However, comparing the m/s numbers here to TPU, the m/s results don't necessarily correlate with good cooling. If only there was more testing of fans in water loops 😉

[@MichaelChan0308]

I can make some compromise for performance vs aesthetics, but this is too expensive and too bad for radiators. Guess ML120/140 Pro RGB makes better sense for me

[@2GuysTek]

You're right, if you want the best radiator air flow then there are better fans out there for it! Thanks for the comment!

[@MichaelChan0308]

@@2GuysTek Thanks for the great content!!!

[@Mexi99]

amazing review! I currently have the 140 mm's from corsair and 1 ,120mm. I had the thermaltake ring and at least to me... it was a tad to bright! lol Don't get me wrong amazing product still but just way to much IMO. Either way there both great products. the only thing i didn't like was that i had to get a nod pro and pay more. Even though it did make my life easier with cable management and being able to control fan speed.

[@2GuysTek]

...Did you say there is such a thing as too much RGB?! Sacrilege! Thanks for the comment! 😀

[@3Gteam]

I know it says radiator, but cant you use em as simple case fans?

[@wheelsdeal]

This rgb crazyness is getting expensive...3 fans costs the same as a Ryzen 3600.You wouldnt believe it 5 years ago...

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

wheelsdeal totally agree, from s financuael point of view i regret getting my 10 corsair qll fans. But man does my case look good. Not worth it though. Just for the the fans i bought 3x 3 fan boxes and 1 single fan to have 10. Each box of 3 fans had a rgb control unit come with them. This didn’t include the power pro units you need to power them which you need to buy separately. Found this out after i installed them. The fans totaled to about $500 before i bought the power pro units those were $80 each. So your looking at $650 - $700 total for 10 of them with the power pros to give them all power. RGB fans are too expensive right now.

[@michaelknight2897]

Do you plug in fans to the corsair commander pro and it does both FAN control and RGB in one connect?

[@2GuysTek]

If you buy a Commander Pro, yes, everything plugs into the Pro. If you just buy the standard 3-pack of Corsair fans, you'll only get the RGB controller and the fans will need to be plugged into your motherboard fan headers.

[@mypeeps1965]

Neither of these options can hold a candle to the rgb fans you made yourself. I would pay a pretty penny for 9 of your fans!

[@Steiny5843]

What I'd like to see where did you find

[@Inacoma84]

Corsair QL120 they can be setup both ways intake or exhaust they have RGB on both sides does the Thermaltake have RGB on both sides

[@2GuysTek]

You absolutely can mount the Riing fans in either push or a pull and in either direction, however, the Thermaltake Riing fans do not have RGB lighting on the backside so you'd be losing the light show if you orient them in that direction. Thanks for the question!

[@xFODDERx]

Another issue to boost iCUE, you can now add all asus motherboards with I believe GPUs being added soon.

[@joefernandez7512]

So these fans need to be set to the highest speed on a radiator AIO through the software because they can not be controlled through the motherboard?

[@2GuysTek]

The QL's have 4-pin PWM headers to connect to your motherboard, but the Riing Quads use a single connector containing PWM and RGB that can only connect to their controller. So while you can use your standard motherboard software to control the QLs, you'll need to use ThermalTakes software to control the speeds of the Riing Quads. The TT software does monitor your system and attempt to dynamically speed up and down the fans to cool or you can set a constant speed.

[@joefernandez7512]

I wouldn't want to manually adjust my fan speed to my CPU's fluctuating temperature. That would be a defining factor for me between TT and Corsair. Thanks for the video and reply.

[@locobusters]

How do I get rid of thermaltake fans if no one wants them

[@2GuysTek]

….trash can? 🤣😂

[@西山春-k7p]

Hi can i ask a question does this fan work on asus rog ryuujin 360 cooler?

[@2GuysTek]

Yes, either fan will work.

[@MedwayAerial]

Used the new Thermaltake fans but didn't t use the new software ???????

[@2GuysTek]

Thanks for the comment! We did address the Neon Maker software in the video.

[@ijv5567]

@@2GuysTek I feel like you guys paid more attention to the old software instead of the new software which was obviously meant to improve upon the old software. I hope to see more in depth info on the new software soon because i'm seriously considering the Riing Quads for my next build. Hopefully you could go into more depth! Thanks!

[@snazzyd6915]

Brightness, to me anyway, is less important than color saturation. I don't want to be blinded, I want to be "immersed". Lumens as a barometer of quality is like Coors Light touting "coldness" as a defining factor, when it should be taste. Das just me doe...

[@exMOSTxHATED]

Thermal take makes awesome fans! I was so excited to get them. I bought 3 120s and 3 140s. But I was disappointed that the software sucks, like to the point the fans aren’t even usable because the software crashes after 3-5mins then you fans are back to default rainbow. And I’m not even sure if my fan speeds drop. I’m think I’m going to send them back and get the Corsair fans! Since I know there software is good. Since I’ve had it for my ram. I would stay away from TT rgb products unless you only want the default rainbow pattern

[@ers-tj4to]

There’s more color saturation on the QLs but I like both of them. Since I have the Corsair 1000D I’ll be using the QLs on that and when I get the TT Core P8 I will be using the Riing Quad on that one.

[@2GuysTek]

Awesome! Thanks for watching! Consider subscribing!

[@shaolin95]

No there is no more saturation, that is just the camera unable to capture the dynamic range. The TT just looks better

[@HiItsThunderYT]

you know you can razor right with Thermaltake

[@Arfat-Khan]

How can i calculate all pc components power in watt?

[@2GuysTek]

There are websites like pcpartspicker.com that will automatically calculate your wattage needs as you add your components.

[@ijv5567]

Why review the old Thermaltake software and not the new software? They obviously made the new software to improve upon their old and you still review the old.

[@2GuysTek]

The NeonMaker software isn't nearly as user friendly or 'set-and-forget' as the RGB TT Plus software and we felt that the simplicity of it compares better to iCue. We do discuss NeonMaker in the video and it's learning curve. NeonMaker shows a ton of promise for creating really fantastic customized lighting and animations - but it's nowhere as easy to get up and going as the RGB TT Plus software. Thanks for the comment!

[@post-leftluddite]

@@2GuysTek so you hold the Thermaltake fans back since the corsair software isn't as advanced.... Doesn't make sense to me... Anyone who can understand a timeline in a video editor can use the neon maker software

[@VENO5407]

I don't think my parents are very happy that I spent $350 on RGB fans.. Oh well..

[@2GuysTek]

The struggle is real.

[@radicalxedward8047]

Does anyone know of any RGB fans that support razer chroma?

[@busyswizzler]

Can you set a colour curve to the cpu temp ?

[@2GuysTek]

Yep, both iCUE and the ThermalTake software have a visual temperature pattern out of the box.

[@jackhammell1926]

Ya that is Crazy Expensive, thanx anyway

[@OFFICIALamplife]

TT Riing Quad white edition looks dope :D gonna get them to replace my LL120 corshit :D

[@radicalxedward8047]

ICUE is pretty nice, but 2 big downsides: 1 it uses a good amount of system resources compared to other software (though it doesn’t have to be left running for everything depending on your setup like some software needs to be) 2. You can’t create custom animations like razer chroma or thermaltakes new RGB software.

[@TUXbeatDOWN]

the software for the RIING Is so bad. I had the old RIING 12 fans and the software eventually just shitted out and quit working. Yeah the RGB was working but once I installed another program that had nothing to do with fans or RGB in general, addressing the RGB in the thermaltakes software was no more and never got fixed. I was told it was a bug in the software and that I was shit out of luck until the devs fixed it. So I decided to switch to two 3 packs of the Corsair's QL120's. All I can say is never had a problem and wow the rgb! ill never go back to thermaltake fans.

[@post-leftluddite]

The neon maker software is amazing, beats everything else on the market

[@0xTox]

holy shit I didnt expect the TT RGB software to be that ugly, cringed so hard

[@tomasberglund186]

God video, have a headset and memory by corsair and i gona trow em away hate icue.

[@Psycrovv]

Hmm should i get TT or corsair..Im building a super expensive new pc that has to look so awsome that its gona be ZING !

[@2GuysTek]

Ultimately it’s your decision. We liked the QLs over the Ring Quads for the reasons we stated in the video.

[@Psycrovv]

@@2GuysTek i see..i was leaning toward TT but thx

[@HeLrAiSiNg1]

lol that riing ripped icue im glad i bought 9 of riings will plan later to put my gpu verticaly along with watercooling the cpu since i have noctua nh-d15 its impossible o verticaly install gpu i think

[@Storm.0777]

Nobody said first... so first?

[@2GuysTek]

There he is!

[@robordm]

Got my sub. Informative with a minimum of bullshit.

[@youjean83]

i had the thermaltake quad and replaced it for corsair since the tt rgb plus software is just... garbage!!!

[@iMaybeHere]

How big of a difference is there with the quads being brighter ?

[@mikecaseymotors]

Cop out at the end.

[@eclipse97526]

except you take a 6 % performance hit for just running the I cue Software. I didnt build a computer like this to bog it down to the gills with bloat wear lol

[@noregrets8751]

wish you'd use the same colors on both fans, the rainbow is always uglier.. imo of course lol

[@arbCannons3395]

Thermal Take really needs to fix their garbage TT RGB Plus software. It doesnt even run for me and Ive tried all the solutions i can find to try to fix it

[@MunkMunk]

Have you tried running it with Windows XP compatibility mode? /badum-tish

[@casperknudsen7086]

LOL Thermaltake price in EU is 142 £. Corsair is like 90.. Aint gonna buy TT over Corsair and not at that price lol

[@KxNGFeel]

I see you don't like criticism. Weak.

[@wonchos]

not single clear side look on them zzzzzz

[@xXscreamingkoalaXx]

Bro how could you totally ignore how they look from behind? It's the main draw of the QL's.

[@supremeboy]

54 RGB lights on one fan? Holy moly you cant even use 2x triple pack on new Gigabyte x570 MB's They support up to 300 addressable rgb lights only. You cant even use 6 rgb fans to control with MB or software. Max is 5 with TT fans @2GuysTek A lot reviewers dont even take into account MB importance when buying these new rgb fans. Ignoring that many want to go with 2xtriple fan sets and because of MB limitations its important to point out.

[@shaolin95]

The TT fans are to be controlled by their own controller not the Mobo. They can also sync with synapse. I have 10 TT fans working perfectly fine

[@ironmanmachine]

2 years later and Thermaltake's newes software TT RGB plus, is absolute garbage. Corsair wins out just on software alone.

[@2GuysTek]

Sad but true.

[@TheSnake0444]

Its ridiculous that my budget EZDIY rgb fans have better transitioning effects than the riing quad fans which is almost 4x more expensive then my set of EZDIY rgb fans including 5 pieces, the software is wack and neon maker is also wack I tried at my friends house, he immediately swapped for the Corsair QL120 which is no brainer ! I will do the same for sure. You wont win customers by adding just more rgb in your fans, the user experience in the software is also mega important. Sadly, Thermeltake does have good rgb fans, its just that their software makes the rgb experience dogshit, without running the software you can notice that suddenly the rgb on the riing quad becomes very smooth (stockmode rainbow), with software activated all the rgb effects are dogshit including neon maker, this is the same for all thermaltake rgb fans !

[@post-leftluddite]

The new neon maker software, which for some reason the ignored, is the best on the market, it let's you create custom animations in a timeline similar to video editing software, no other software allows such fine grain control and endless possibilities

[@yomamasboyfriend]

Or you can use SignalRGB and forget about the software part