Corsair K70 Max Review, BETTER THAN STEELSERIES APEX PRO?

[@TheTechne]

So sorry I forgot to insert the iq overlay showing the actuation adjustment :( Corsairs website shows it well www.corsair.com/us/en/p/keyboards/ch-910961g-na/k70-max-rgb-magnetic-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-adjustable-corsair-mgx-switches-steel-grey-ch-910961g-na

[@BeastMortThe]

Big question is if Corsair has fixed the issue with their KB's failing and having multiple keystrokes with a single press. I've had 3 fail on me this way over the past 2 - 3 yrs and I'm about ready to just give up on the company. For how expensive these things are, there is no reason for them to have issues across different models. I thought it was a fluke the first time it happened, but after the 2nd and then the 3rd... enough is enough. I've had cheap $50 and less that never had these kinds of issues that last me years and then spend $150+ and yet to get one to last more then 2 years.

[@Aerobrake]

my k70 tkl up aarrow died and I have to resolder it.

[@LastAphelion]

my k70 mk2 se has been doing this for over a year. I constantly clean it out, works for 3 seconds, then goes back to not registering, or inputting 4 letters peer press I cant even enter my passwords right now lol I just gotta replace it. That rgb on the silver+white board has been aesthetically one of my favorite boards though, I cant find another that I like as much (it gives the impression that the rgbs are more pastel than they are)

[@Eliminator6363]

Rapidfire is about the reset point. If you set your actuation point high, like a speed switch, rapidfire makes it so that when you bottom out (or any point past the actuation), the moment you start coming up becomes the reset point. It's the perfect feature for a high actuation point, so you don't need to fully release the key to the set actuation point, making it as "speedy" as it can possibly be. Wooting has a little animation that shows how it works on their site. I've used the wooting60he for a long time now, and I really don't like the feeling of other boards without it. While it won't magically turn you into a god, it does add more consistency by solving the biggest flaw with speed switches.

[@LastAphelion]

I'm debating getting the Wooting vs Max right now. The only reason I want the Max is that I love using the scroll volume and use the media keys daily to pause and skip and shows without tabbing out.

[@xayahonetrick2566]

same @@LastAphelion

[@LastAphelion]

I did my research last week (listened to all the sound videos, lubed vs unlubed, sound mods etc. On Wooting this is all easy as pie since the keys can pop right out) and decided to go for the Wooting 2. I just want to try some new keys, I'd be super upset if the cherry keys on Max started chattering in just a few months just like my current K70 did. And Wootings software looks far nicer and more adjustable to work with.

[@normantux2288]

@@LastAphelion well you just did your research wrong, you do understand that key chatter is a problem of contact switches, which these are not, they are hall effect switches. Even if theoretically hall effect switches have it, then wooting is no exception for it as they use the same technology for switches :)

[@LastAphelion]

@@normantux2288 Maybe I mis said something I never was worried about wooting having chatter, my corsair board had horrible chatter and I wouldnt trust corsair boards again after that. I already got my wooting and its amazing and wish I got one sooner

[@riekopo7638]

Not a fan of the weird pattern on the top. Wish this was available with hot swappable regular switches.

[@noisenoys]

Me, I dont care about the sound of the keys. I will not hear it when headset on anyway. All I care about is, the build quality of the keyboard and the feel of the keys. :D

[@MekaniQ]

The price is really what kills the interest of that keeb personally. Plus the fact it doesn't have Rapid Trigger doesn't make it a Wooting Two HE alternative (which costs more expensive). Corsair can sometimes make good products but the fact thay are so expensive immediately makes it a no-go for anyone, or they are always late to the party.

[@Ejziponken1]

Rapid trigger is coming in Q3 according to Corsair. But still, Im not paying 230 dollars for PLASTIC. :P

[@MekaniQ]

@@Ejziponken1 Ah, gotcha. But yeah that's exactly the issue, 230 is just WAY too much.

[@virtual9003]

The foam is a must for Corsair's keyboards. I couln't keep the K100 because of the ping (for a 269.99€ kb it's ridiculous) But the one thing that Corsair's do miles better than Razer is their PBT font. The RGB is so much pronounced and better than Razer's one.

[@virtual9003]

@@F-I-N-E-R No ! I was talking about the case resonance when you’re typing (it appears on certain letters)

[@PIJ0911]

Awesome review! Btw I am wondering if you will review ROG Astrid Scope 96 II? I am very interested in that keyboard

[@pusheencat7722]

Great review, thank you! I currently have the Steelseries Apex Pro full sized keyboard. I do 100 percent love it. I actually do use the actuations. For gaming, I use very sensitive keys, although, for ones that do a function I do not want to accidentally trigger, I will set it to be less sensitive. Regular typing I make less sensitive since I am a touch typer. I do not want to accidentally press keys. I love the ability to change my key sensitivity, and I don't think I could ever go back. I just wish ALL the keys on the apex pro has it. However, it seems the Corsair one does, and that looks like my next keyboard when this one no longer functions. As for my keyboard preferences. I will say the most important important thing for me is quality. I stopped using Logitech, because the keys kept rubbing off. Granted, it was back when I was using cheap, non gaming keyboards with the stickers that says what the keys are. However, my last Logitech was a gaming keyboard, mechanical switches, light up (white only), but laser etched, none of these stickers. And even then, the keycaps wore out quite quickly. Since then, I switched to Steelseries, and my keycaps are absolutely fine. So quality is extremely important to me. As for how the keyboard sounds. I feel that the sound of a keyboard, and its' quality, goes hand in hand to a degree. The other thing that is important in a keyboard is its' features. This keyboard you reviewed seems to hit all the important things that I look for. Thanks again for the review! I loved it

[@cr0ss0ut]

I lubed up my switches and stabilizers and it made a world of difference. Honestly sounds better than an unmodded drop 75.

[@katcrafty]

Same. Sounds amazing. Debating whether or not it’s worth it to tape mod it as well.

[@cr0ss0ut]

@@katcrafty line the bottom with some automotive acoustic foam is also a definite upgrade. I didn't tape mod

[@coyotex850]

i almost thought that glossy piece in the middle where the logo is was a screen

[@TheTechne]

That would have been so cool!

[@Aerobrake]

rapidfire/rapid trigger is a super hot topic for keyboards, im avoiding mechanical and optical keyboards that don't have it.

[@TheTechne]

what do you use it for mostly?

[@Aerobrake]

@@TheTechne i usually play platformers and osu and it makes inputs so much more consistent, its unreal! Looking forward to a TKL version, btw arw they hotswap?

[@Joe.Rogan.]

No USB passthrough is what's stopping me from upgrading my K70 Platinum. It's getting pretty old, a couple LEDs have gone out, one of the feet broke off and wont go back on, some keys have lost the ability to use blue...all things that would of prompted me to get a new keyboard but I know how much I use that USB passthrough and it scares me how much I'll miss it.

[@Mr450pro]

I’m all new to pc stuff. What do you use pass through for?

[@cartouchator]

Plug in your mouse, charge your phone, ...​@@Mr450pro

[@Kaiser187]

I have the K70 low profile M2 clear cherry switches. Great keyboard.

[@Wanted54321]

Yea idk, drunk deer A75 already have rapid fire feature and they're planning to release aluminium casing soon, this aint worth it lol. The fact that A75 sounds way better is also a selling point too.

[@iSpenC]

LETS GO!! Make a TKL Corsair. Love to see some more magnetic switches. I love my Wooting. I’m just waiting for a Wooting TKL.

[@TurboLoveTrain]

I'm always amused by people that don't use full sized keyboards for gaming. In almost every case I have found it is someone that gamed all their lives on console and moved over to PC as an "adult" but never actually mastered the interface. Usually more then four buttons on the mouse melts their brains.

[@iSpenC]

@@TurboLoveTrain weird because this is true and accurate for me lol. I switched from full size because I never needed a numpad while gaming and my mouse hit my keyboard one time lol. I do use full size for work. Have to have a numpad for work. I like my mouse with 5 buttons so far.

[@TurboLoveTrain]

@@iSpenC I've seen it happen more times than I can count. I got used to keeping my keyboard so the "a" key almost lines up with the left side of my display when I game--my main display is 27 inch and I have tons of mouse room. Oddly enough this actually keeps me very centered on my display. I use the keypad for menus or anything I don't need immediately while fighting. Maps and equipment menus and such. I also use the arrow keys quite a bit to move around out of combat so I can drink coffee or snack. On an old switch type keyboard the good thing about the extra keys is if you have a button going bad you just swap it with the pause or print screen switch or one of the function keys that you hardly use.

[@radicalkonrad765]

Can I buy the wrist rest alone? I want a softer one for my current K70 pro.

[@cartouchator]

What this video doesnt say is that the steel series software that goes with the apex pro is absolutely trash. Every single time i restart my computer, the keyboard goes back to a default colour, and no matter what i try, the software cant change the colours back. I then have to manually go into the settings in the keyboard screen itself, press change profile, and boom it works again. Every. Single. Pc. Restart. Seriously. Ive tried everything, reinstalling the software, factory resetting the keyboard multiple times, tried every setting under the sun, nothing fixed it, every single pc restart, it resets back to default colours. The only way i could use the keyboard is by not using the software at all and use one of the colour presets built into the keyboard , and just use that instead. Which means you can only choose between 5 colours. Also the software for some reason replaced all of my sound drivers with steelseries version, and this was activated by default. The issue with that is that with steelseries drivers, 100% volume sounded like 15% volume... i had to disable all of their sound nonesense to get it working again, and reinstall realtek drivers. And their software is full of adverts. Full of it. Needless to say, never using a steelseries product ever again.

[@TurboLoveTrain]

I bought this when it dropped under $200 USD. Easily the best keyboard I've ever owned and it feels like butter. It is a blessing that Zoomers don't know how to use fullsized keyboard while gaming so this thing is a steal for what you get. You can't see the silver edges when you use the keyboard--I didn't even notice them until you pointed them out and with the backlit RGB the lighter gray of the PBT keys looks pretty gud.. Maybe I have a newer version but my spacebar sounds significantly cleaner than yours. They also just fixed iCue so you don't need to have iCue running to keep the board fully configured. I'm not sure why anyone would need on the fly actuation configuration while gaming but I do have a gaming profile and a typing profile. It is mind boggling to me that people would use their gaming actuation and key configuration for every day use...? People do this?.. .but yeah, switching between profiles is one button. Rapid fire is the heat and the adjustable key actuation with the HE switches is incredible.

[@Bovineicide]

Are you going to review the 8bitdo keyboard when that releases?

[@calmsh0t]

I see why these linear switches with rapid fire seem gimmicky, but believe me in tac shooters where you need to stand completely still to be accurate (csgo, valorant) and need to do so as fast as possible, these things are almost cheating! I also heard from the osu community, that this technology enables them to have a far easier time maintaining score streaks.

[@tigrux]

Sometimes I think TheTechne is a preacher on Sundays and that his sermon is the most energetic on Earth.

[@TheTechne]

lol

[@Mr450pro]

I honestly think this is the keyboard for me. It’s smooth and not loud..I will only use it for gaming

[@giakhangtruong54]

They better have a Rapid Trigger update soon

[@DisforDamion87]

Later this month!

[@nbr134]

I bought steelseries arctis nova 1p but I regret buying 1p because 1p does not have microphone and headphone splitter, but 1 does.

[@officialszabobeatz]

I just ordered one :) CORSAIR NR1

[@strykerfpv]

techne are you excited for mw3? love the content❤❤❤

[@spookinutella56]

As a current owner of an Apex Pro, this looks pretty great! My Apex Pro has been perfect but Steelseries have seriously over-bloated their software, which I don't like. And a recent update to their software has disabled all of the features to my Keyboard, and since wiped my RGB settings for headphones and mouse. And it's been a very long back and forth with their support to try and find a solution for it. (which btw, their support makes it pretty difficult to actually make a ticket). With these in mind, despite getting a good few years of use out of my Apex Pro, and given what I've heard from friends who use Corsair products, I'd probably get a Corsair keyboard instead.

[@somnorila9913]

The rapid fire thing seems interesting as i find myself plenty of times in games wanting to press some key fast and and repeatedly and so i get to go in smaller and smaller press distance, basically almost holding it completely pressed down and having to pull up my finger less and less. But what happens is that it doesn't reset and register all the time. But wondering if it's really needed if you can already change the actuation setting and so for max setting to trigger at the bottom. I guess maybe with this rapid fire it would be possible to have best of both worlds? Like set it max to trigger at the max top just with a small pinch but also reset and register even if you press it while keeping it pressed all the way.

[@michaelbrown5455]

Does the Max version still ping like the k70 Pro's? Was particularly noticeable on Cherry Reds

[@TheTechne]

no ping what so ever.

[@Zephyn]

Looks cool but I don't see how this is worth $230. I'll stick with my Varmilo keyboard, I don't see myself caring about Corsair any time soon.

[@fallenlegion1828]

Hey techne i was wondering if this wrist rest is similar to the blackwidow v4? I remember that wrist rest sat up far too high for my liking. This KB looks to have the same type

[@FloN.83]

@TheTechne pls try the Asus ROG STRIX SCOPE II 96 Wireless. By far the best Keyboard i ever touched.

[@dunmer2947]

is the spacebar upside down at 7:38? thats a classic

[@TheTechne]

I always flip my spacebars, it much more comfortable. Give it a try

[@dunmer2947]

@@TheTechne oh cool I’ll have to try that on my old k70 tonight

[@DisforDamion87]

I noticed the bottom is translucent, how well does the RGB shine through?

[@katcrafty]

It doesn’t shine through the bottom at all.

[@super-social-saltyfish]

don't know why corsair always don't come together with tkl

[@momojune]

doesnt have mini size of keybpard?

[@hayden1255]

You could get an NK65 build that annihilates this board. I personally would love to see all gaming boards just be like $100 across the board

[@TechGuy42ilm]

Dude the nk65 sounds better but the functions that corsair has kills it

[@TheTechne]

two very different boards though

[@hayden1255]

@TechGuy42ilm the functions that you'll never use. "Speed" switches, which are a fraction of a half of a millisecond quicker that don't give you and advantage to the point that most pro players don't even use them, you have access to all the functions this board has with a 65% with arrow keys, and shine through keycaps can be bought for $30

[@hayden1255]

I'm not saying gaming keyboards have no place. The custom keyboard space is just not consumer friendly and no matter how hard they try nothing will ever be in stock all the time. But they shouldn't be charging custom keyboard prices for this

[@minty_x]

​@@hayden1255i agree but there is still a reason to buy gaming boards. Most gaming boards are 1000hz polling, while customs are 125 or 500hz. That's why I main a modded apex pro, best of both worlds. (too broke for wooting lol)

[@tabernacle800]

Oops, uhhh your spacebar was upside down the whole video. The white dash - should be on the top.

[@TheTechne]

I always flip my spacebars

[@tabernacle800]

@@TheTechne Ah, I see that now, an interesting quirk! What's the reasoning/backstory behind it?

[@TheTechne]

@@tabernacle800 I don't like using wrist wrest, and flipping your space bar is very very cozy when wresting your wrist on your desk. It just flows so great. Try it

[@tabernacle800]

@@TheTechne Never thought of that before, thanks for the tip!

[@theoburn878]

I want a tkl version

[@katcrafty]

Don’t buy this unless you’re willing to lube your stabilizers and switches. Probably only if you’re one of those people that likes the look of an all-Corsair setup.

[@giff74]

I've been really wanting to try a keyboard with magnetic switches, but who wants a gamging keyboard the size of a surfboard?

[@ahmedjgugug2476]

Is there tkl version

[@Kizzster]

They're still doing full sized keyboards Jesuuuuuuuus Christtttttt

[@TheTechne]

lol

[@icarusp811]

need tkl

[@CodeVenomSnakes]

rapid fire is more for the fortnite while building and that make so fast to build.

[@KGB-FSB]

Man, cringe that sound profile

[@Pinkfloyd1173]

$229.00, lol,lol

[@BeastMortThe]

And 6 months later the thing is going haywire and multiple typing keys on a single key press. Seems this company is only good at making quality RAM and everything else is so-so at best.

[@TheRealCaptainLavender]

Corsair boards sound like garbage, it's a universal law of the universe. They have NO IDEA how to make a board that feels and sounds decent.

[@DVTHEFOX]

Mention a mechanical NON MX BLUE KB that doesnt have the pinging sound on the metal board, has dedicated multimedia keys (INCLUDING THE STOP ONE) and it's not a Keychron/similar brand

[@hayden1255]

@DVTHEFOX QK65 or TKC Portico black label are both allumimum and don't have ping

[@Ejziponken1]

The whole bottom is plastic. PLASTIC for 230 dollars. GG Nope not buying that crap. Also the USB port seems to wiggle on the keyboard and the cable is kind of stiff. And the rubber on the bottom is not great either. Shit quality for premium pricetag. Welcome to 2023. This should cost no more than 100$ and even then I wouldn't buy it because I want a premium keyboard.