COST SO FAR O'day 28 Sailboat EP. 63

[@AI_Life]

You don't buy a boat or get into sailing if your worried about saving $$. You do it because its what you enjoy and you cant put a price tag on your state of mind. You have a good way of communicating/presenting your experiences. Keep up the videos.

[@jefffrayer8238]

Very excellent video. You would think with 8g spent over 2 years there wouldn't be anything left to fix or update. This could explain why some boats sit idle on the hard or water for years yet even that gets expensive. People don't realize the need for repairs and expense on new or older boats. She's a beautiful boat and I think perfect for you two. Keep up the good work and thanks for the video.

[@roetken]

Boat looks great, especially leaving the dock in the last scene

[@stillwatersailor665]

Great video again. I have had my O'day 28 six years now and have a long list of repairs and upgrades. Worth every dollar!

[@slapshotiam]

Always enjoy your videos. As a relative newbee to the hobby (passion really), they’re informative and fun to watch especially for us in colder climates that limit off-season sailing.

[@shanedenniscom]

Very good video. Its so important to go sailing as you fix a boat because when you do that the boat tells you what it needs. I think you should expect to spend at least $3000/year going forward. The annual haul out and bottom paint will probably run at least $1500/year.

[@slapshotiam]

Always enjoy your videos. They’re informative and fun for us in colder climates that limit off-season sailing.

[@hturner5427]

Thanks, nice year end video.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Thanks. Happy new year!

[@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101]

I am scared of doing a spread sheet cost analysis. lol. Very good video and I am sure very eye opening for some who want to buy a boat that stays in the water.

[@TravelinLight303]

Thank you for taking the time to put this out. Informative and well thought out.

[@eldeRobe]

Another informative video. Thank you for sharing your adventure. The expenses you cite is one reason why I'm considering a small sailboat like a Melonseed. Also need to be able to tow and launch and sail by myself.

[@coopersrace7277]

Love your videos. Keep them coming. Anytime you are feeling frustrated at what you have to spend on your boat, just compare it to the cost of having a kid and you will feel much much better….lol.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Well said!

[@kevin3434343434]

What if I have 2 kids already and want a sailboat :x

[@coopersrace7277]

@@kevin3434343434 my kids have left home. I bought a yacht with the spare money I then had. Now one informs me he is coming home .....to save money......with girlfriend in tow! Payment for my sins i guess...lol.

[@herbescobar4548]

Hey guys Merry Christmas and warm wishes for a Happy New Year! Thanks for continuing to share your adventures. Agree - money, money, money. But the joy of sailing is priceless!

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Happy holidays!

[@jackiecourtney5438]

Love this channel esp for the cost breakdowns. Native Floridian, always thought sail boats were for rich snobby types. Learning it need not be so. I’d like to get into this. Its a money hole I know but so are a motorcycles and I’ve happily spent a ton on those the last 20 years or so.

[@fritzsound]

We owned a 28 & we loved it! Nice vid.

[@MissMarinaCapri]

Thanks for the financial breakdown and I’ve determined that I can ether have a house or a boat. So I would have to live on the boat if I had one financially speaking. Really valuable information to dream

[@justinhill9915]

Well your videos about sailing got me all excited to go get a sail boat and learn to sail but watching this video and your original sailboat cost video has triggered my inner cheapskate and decided to just find a great friend who likes to sail and wants someone to hang out with! Lol 😉 Great videos, thanks for all of the incredibly valuable information.

[@christopherodonnell2375]

Yes sir boat means bring out another thousand i.e. dollars lol

[@HikerBikerMoter]

You can volunteer as a crew on a sailboat for a weekend race or a leisurely cruising.. local yacht clubs are always looking for crew during their weekend races or jaunts and many individuals volunteer to crew for the experience and network with the yacht club members ü

[@TH-X1000]

What about insurance premiums? Great video!

[@davecopp9356]

Thanks for keeping it real.

[@jmilesfox]

Great video! Thanks!

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Glad you liked it!

[@Annon89]

Lot of good info there. Thank you

[@philipmayo4865]

Thanks so much for sharing your real costs. Very eye opening especially for us in the dreaming stages yet. I just looked up O'day 28's for sale and found 3. One in Massachusetts, one in Georgia and one in Texas. Prices ranged from around 8k to 13k with the one in the middle seeming like the nicest deal at around 9k.

[@livingsimplytosimplylive6817]

Wonderful overview

[@fakiirification]

of course some of that is variable depending on where your located and the extent of what you can do yourself, or how good you are at fixing things that are close but not quite totally broken. But this is still a very very good look at a cost breakdown for someone like me whos looking to buy a boat for the first time soon. thanks

[@normanplotkin8105]

I own a Catalina 28mii and find your cost estimates spot on. As my wife always reminds me "B-O-A-T" stands for "Break Out Another Thousand". But I enjoy the boat and the cost is well worth the pleasure I get from not only sailing her, but also working on her (him - it - gotta be politcally correct these days)!😎 s/v Starcatcher

[@douglasreynolds2099]

Thank you for this information. It will help me when I start getting serious about buying a boat and what my expenses may or may not be.

[@terrysnider266]

I've been looking for a 28 center board and really haven't found one as nice as yours. The money that the previous owner put in and what you paid for the boat I'd say you got a really good deal. I enjoy your videos they are clean and informative thanks.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Thanks. When I looked at 28 pricing lately it seems they've all gone up about $5,000 more now... like everything else, I guess. And for 15K some were not that great.

[@davelawrence6777]

Thanks for the great precise coverage of costs but you and I both know the benefits in satisfaction far out way the costs true boaters know the old adage a whole in the water in which you put your money

[@AdventuresInParadise]

We just spent $1,000 on our power boat last month for a repair and it only has about 200 hours on it. Each oil change costs a few hundred bucks.

[@garyjensen3414]

CONGRATULATIONS an O Day is a great boat..I started with an O Day 27 many years ago..I was a Fireman in the San Francisco Bay area at the time..I had over 100 days of sailing the first year..My expenses weren't as high as yours..I did most maintenance myself..Having a 10 H.P Honda was a great inexpensive way to power the boat and I did some work exchange for all the work that was needed on the engine..I moved up to a Catalina 36 and had a lot of sail days on it..I did incur some expense with having a Dodger and a furled system installed..Other than that and berthing costs, that was about the extent..I purchased my next boat ( Catalina 380---1998) in Florida..It cost $10,000.00 to transport it to San Francisco, where I set everything back up.... It had a furled jib AND A FURLED MAIN...I sailed it often in San Francisco Bay, the delta and down the Coast..I had many happy times on the boat, but was happy when I sold it...LOOKING BACK--My most fun times were on my O'Day 27..It was a tough boat and I sailed it often in 30 + knots of wind and always felt secure..Again, YOU HAVE A GREAT BOAT------ENJOY IT AND SAIL IT OFTEN!!!!

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Wow, that's great! I sold Envision and the new owner seems to not have prepped it for the hurricanes we just had and it was completely wrecked, and I mean the deck went on shore while the hull stayed in the water - it was completely destroyed. Such a shame because I did so much to her partly hoping the boat would live on.

[@viking8889]

Thanks for sharing the info

[@mvstormyoneadventures]

It is amazing how thing add up. Happy new year

[@bayanicustodio3998]

So basically, you got a technical log which made your decision easy. 👍🙂 Happy New Year!👍🙂

[@jimbranch6115]

Wow, I was looking for a boat before I watched this now I'm not sure I want one. I've owned two small sail boats and was thinking of buying a blue water boat.

[@blacktootherson]

It’s worth it as long as you’re really out there enjoying the ocean on a regular basis and enjoy long hours/ days at sea. In my opinion The longer it sits with you away from the less it’s worth it

[@roxyknight4909]

Very informative

[@edwingeng]

what a wonderful channel ... short but concise videos ... very helpful and inspiring ... I am a new subscriber and happy to be one !!! ... by the way ... saw suzy count paper bills and cannot help to ask - does work in a bank before ? ... it is just the how she count the money on your clip hence this question ... like your catalina 22 videos much !!!! MORE POWER !!! (my dog mochi - actually Edwin Mabalay)

[@SteveProffitt-s7n]

Always easier to buy a boat than to sell one. Worked as a diver in a marina for five years. Zinc replacement in saltwater, is about every 4 to 6 months. May seem expensive but well worth it.

[@louisfbrooks]

Honestly, this video shows me that you can still afford sailing for the average person. I keep seeing recommendations for $50,000 to $100,000 grand to go sailing. I don't see how anyone but the 1% can afford that. You go little rock star.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

And the boat was only $9,500.

[@akllera]

Of course your talking about Florida prices. That's one reason I'm looking for my boat on the Great lakes.

[@publicprofile1]

But, did you have fun?

[@ronagoodwell2709]

A lot easier to just tell us how much you paid for the boat--and if it's actually worth that price. You can then plan on 10% of the value every year on upkeep. Not counting marina fees and fuel and insurance. So every 10 years you pay for a replacement boat. The best thing to do is have your paycheck sent directly to WestMarine. They'll get it anyway. They can send you a little money for food once in awhile. Nothing too fancy, you under5stand.

[@gypsycat619]

Where in Florida is a Marina fee so expensive?

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Our local marinas are from Anclote down to Clearwater and St. Pete. Some are more than we pay, some less. A few you have to join the club. Residents get discounts. Half-off in some cases. We've been on a 2 year waiting list for a year now and went from 24th place down to 12th place. You can see slip rates on each marina websites usually. They're typically +/- $50 from what we're paying. All depends on the area. Our marinas are all next to excellent cities/restaurants with excellent boating nearby. it is very difficult to find any slip and we only got one because one of our fans helped us out.

[@beebester4106]

Wow very eye opening. I hate seeing the bottom dollar, very scary.

[@tonymoore7480]

Thanks Great video

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Thanks!

[@jimslittleboat4388]

Bad investment in your retirement portfolio--a bargain as an investment in your karma.

[@joro8604]

I'll need to look at this every time I get boat envy.... My sail club seems like a bargain.

[@waltervega8730]

Im planning on buying a sailboat and live aboard year round . Plus also sail it on short trips. If you're gonna live aboard i domt think its such a big expense. I spend way more on yearly rent , which is money that basically thrown away. Planning on moving to a coastal town and begin my journey. Always dreamed about living tiny on a small boat.

[@garyjensen3414]

If you are going to be a live aboard, I would consider California where they don't have Hurricanes.

[@davidparadis490]

Some people don't realize a salt water boat lives in the most extreme environment...the most important thing you can do is hose down and wash your boat after each use(and flush your outboards)

[@juniorsguitarranch6368]

My marina in NC is $7 a foot!

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Wow, and somebody commented on one of these videos somewhere that they pay like triple what we pay, in Australia.

[@todddunn945]

You left out a couple of costs that will add up over time. First insurance. Second haulouts for bottom paint. Third periodic rebedding of deck fittings. You get the idea. My Allied 36 costs me about $12K/yr plus upgrades. For example I just bought a new genoa - $2K. Last year I bought a new dodger and a new chartplotter - $3K.

[@apsu758]

Hey... So what about the boat insurance...??? Don't you guys take one?

[@davidhutchinson5233]

If you are able, you could do what some sailing couples and families do. Liveaboard. Then your costs drop in a very big way. But only if you can do it. It's not for everyone.

[@stillwatersailor665]

Did you buy those port lights from DR marine "Rudy"? Are they dark enough?

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Yes, we did get them at DR and they are dark enough.

[@stillwatersailor665]

@@AdventuresInParadise So you bought the "smoked gray"? The website says "Dark tint no longer available". I just want to be sure before I order. Thanks

[@erbrock1]

Very useful information. Thank you. Any chance you would be willing to share the cost for insurance?

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Since I only add it to our existing Policy it's like $75 every six months or maybe even each year. Boat insurance is cheap.

[@erbrock1]

@@AdventuresInParadise Great. Thank you. Really appreciate you sharing.

[@jkutyna]

That is a VERY cheap marina fee for Florida. Must be because you are west coast. Come up near St. Augustine and you will double that outright. South Florida I'm sure would be about the same. 17-20$ per foot per month just to tie up.

[@TheOldGuy]

Nice Video. I appreciate the information! I do keep wondering when you are going to get a dingy and which one / type you will get?

[@AdventuresInParadise]

We have an inflatable which we have only used once with this boat.

[@donparkison4617]

The only way this might be a cost savings is if you live aboard. And thats something my wife would absolutely never do. So yea, a sailboat is definitely an ongoing expense. That is why there are so many for sale, people just cant justify it in many cases.

[@peterprocopio2192]

Great video, beautiful boat! How much did the boat cost?

[@AdventuresInParadise]

We paid $9,500 which was around the going price a year ago... now (end of 2021) they all seem to be around $15,000.

[@Trevscuriosites]

but.... you can deduct what it would have cost to have all the fun and adventure you were able to have on your boat over a year

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Good point! I should have mentioned that... like paying for hotel stays, dinners, etc.

[@israel426]

Thanks for sharing! I'm from Brazil, and thinking about buy a sailboat in US or Europe. Inflation here double the prices, unfortunately.

[@garyjensen3414]

What would a 36 foot sailboat cost in Brazil? thanks

[@authenticrebuilds9247]

good boats, They did great with deckspace but piss poor on head layout, but beamy and roomy inside. Ive had a 26, 34 and now ended up with a 222 from a hundred dollar bid

[@christopherodonnell2375]

My sons hav an open boat 22ft which they do fishing do u know the meaning of boat .It means bring out another thousand lol

[@kurtsteiner8384]

Sou nds lime a moneh pit. Some of this could be cut down lime botto. Cleaning once a year is normally good enough, you dont need .mo nthly. And guess alot could be reduced or cut out as they are not essential.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Bottom cleaning is typically twice a month here in Florida but I only let them to it once a month and by the end of the month its got a thick green layer on the bottom paint. Maybe you live where the water isn't 95 degrees?

[@kurtsteiner8384]

@@AdventuresInParadise I am i the uk if we are lucky we may get 30"c in the summer on the south coast. Normall you get algi when a vessel is not used. You can always tell a vessel thats never used by the algi build up. If you use it regularly you wont get this build up. Just going to sea will take it off.. Not much i have not done at sea being former Royal Navy.

[@garyjensen3414]

@@AdventuresInParadise I had mine cleaned by a diver every 3 months in San Francisco and I also had a dry diver that I would use a couple times a month..

[@叨叨唠唠-z3g]

I am so stressed I have no idea how physics works… How can I fix all of these things… And I don’t know most of the name of these parts😢 Tons of things to learn I guess

[@toddweltiable]

Just saw this. I think the money doesn't concern me so much as the time spent dealing with all these issues. I think my wife, who is not so much a sailor (yet anyways) would kill me if I spent every weekend fixing the boat. I guess I could spend more upfront to get something that needs less repairs, but I suspect that might only get me maybe one year grace period if that.

[@jaimes350]

$435 a month? wow my marina in south Australia costs that per year.

[@philipmayo4865]

Wow! Really? That seems so cheap!

[@jaimes350]

@@philipmayo4865 yes it is my first year with this club and just found out after posting they bill in three parts. 1st the club fees then marina fees in two 6 month blocks (my bad lol) total years fees are $1620 but still cheap

[@philipmayo4865]

@@jaimes350 yes that's still a great deal. Do they charge you by the length of your boat? If so, how much/ft?

[@jaimes350]

@@philipmayo4865 hi Philip i have to say it appears we do things a little different in Australia, my club charges a flat rate per berth, so if your in a big cat or try you have to pay for both berths. unfortunately we are also restricted by size as we have to cross a sandbar at the moment that you can walk across at lo tide without wetting your knees. they are trying to get the council to dredge it though

[@philipmayo4865]

@@jaimes350 interesting Jaime's. Yes, that sounds like you need a bit of dredging there. Must be difficult trying to plan when you can take your boat out. Thanks for sharing.

[@grmm6845]

That's not as expensive as I thought it would be honestly. I'm giving myself 5 years to save money before I go boat shopping, I've been looking at the Alburg 27.

[@samehrlich6857]

U failed to mention insurance

[@ashpollen65]

Marina fees $5000? In UK you would pay approx £1200 for 28ft....... BOAT - Break Out Another Tenner 😅😅😅

[@mikerotch1135]

That's pretty cheap rent a little over 400 a month

[@fabmanly1070]

It costs $3000 to replace the sails on our 12ft dinghy………..

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Does it really? Well, it must be a nice Dinghy. The last sail I bought for our 22 was $800 from a local place in St. Pete Florida. Thanks for sharing that... it's good for people to see how much these types of things cost.

[@geezer652]

A hell of a lot cheaper than apartment rent or home mortgage.

[@ministryoftruth8588]

YIKE$!!!

[@sky5jump]

BOAT Break Out Another Thousand

[@geezer652]

What you haven't mentioned is insurance.

[@contorta960]

Awesome! Life I can't afford so drool over a life that will never be on KZbin 😋🤣. Eugh capitalism. Makes living off the grid so much more appealing but then you see it costs a lot to get living off the grid on the go. YOLO, and I think a lot of us aren't living exactly how we'd want to. I don't get life at all, can be quite senseless, chaotic and full of pain and suffering. Equally it can be full of beauty, if things transpire that way for you. Seems to me a lot of people get a raw deal in life, deserve better. People like me that have had a good deal but f***ed it up. And then the ridiculously privileged. Too bad it can't all be even-stevens for everyone.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

Good thoughts, thanks for that.

[@Oozywolf]

If you can find a remote job, it's definitely possible if you live on the sailboat. You're saving money and time on tons of stuff. Lawncare, property tax, heating and air conditioning, etc. You're saving a boatload (😏😏😏😏😏) on those repairs. My parents just redid their roof and it was $70k. That said, if you've got a wife, kids, etc, living on a boat sometimes just isn't feasible. And when it becomes just a hobby, it's almost impossible to not spend a decent chunk of change every year. So living on a boat can be dirt cheap, and far far cheaper than living in a home. You can even avoid dock costs by simply anchoring somewhere. But having a boat just as a weekend hobby is incredibly expensive. Especially in places like Florida. In NJ I just found a place that's only $2/ft. So again, if it's a fully remote job, you can dock anywhere!

[@BobBarbourPhotography]

The money you wasted by buying from West Marine is ridiculous, everything is over priced from this monopoly Marine store. Shop around and avoid West Marine.

[@AdventuresInParadise]

I bought four things in a year from West Marine and the other 23 items on this list elsewhere. Can I even have 65' of anchor chain mailed? The other items were $50 and $14... I think the only time I shop there is when I want the item today, and we have three nearby, so the convenience makes sense sometimes.

[@paulpaulsen7309]

... well, marina cost more than $5200, ... Keep It Simple, Stupid, ... that's why many people prefer smaller, easy trailable boats, maintenance at home, to move the boat three neighbors/friends and a case of beer are needed, above all things, if the tours only last about two weeks, no 3 tons vessel is needed, ... btw., marinas, ... bluewater sailers, where they go, no marinas are needed ...

[@david78212]

You either love owning a sailboat or you don't. The biggest myth ever put onto the public are the words "maintenance free". Hate to clue you in, there is no such thing. If something were truly maintenance free, you would never have to replace, repair or paint it. I'm not really sure you can count marina fees either, unless you have a trailer and the ability to store it in your yard, you will have to pay marina fees...unless you can dock it at your house. I'm planning on buying a boat next spring, I wish it were in the cards to buy one right now. Is it my imagination, or are there a ton of boats for sale?