History of the Anatolian Languages

History of the Anatolian Languages, Proto-Anatolian, Hittite, Luwian, Palaic, Lydian, Carian, Lycian, Pisidian, Sidetic, Milyan, Ancient Cappadocian, Isaurian
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Ether Real - Density & Time

[@brettfafata3017]

It seems like the mountains are always the last strongholds of dying languages. The Isaurians survived so long because of the rugged terrain of their region. I can think of many other examples of mountain people clinging on to their languages. The Incans were pushed into the Andes, the Hmong into the hills of Southern China, the native Austroasiatic people into the mountains of Thailand and Laos, etc.

[@CostasMelas]

Correct. Also Basque, the Caucasian Languages, Aromanian and Albanian in the Balkans, East Iranian languages in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Welsh etc survived thanks to the mountainous terrain

[@truthissacred]

@@CostasMelas how did albanian survive in the balkans?

[@androtchitchinadze3450]

Same with Religion as well. When the Roman Empire declared Christianity as the official Religion of the state, many Mountain peoples thought it was pathetic, until the religion kept dying out and the last Zeus worshipper converted to Christianity or Died somewhere around the 9th century

[@Lingist081]

@@androtchitchinadze3450 Yeah and there were still Germanic pagans in the mountains of northern Sweden up until almost the 1400s. Some Franks even still worshipped the Germanic gods into the 9th century. By that point the Frankish language had turned into Old Dutch.

[@Jrookus]

@@truthissacred it’s an alleged descendant of the various Illyrian languages, languages lost when Attila the Hun and German invaders razed the place to the ground. The Slavs moved in and then replaced the Illyrians in the now empty lands. Except for Albania

[@rosintruder6867]

Great video, R.I.P Anatolian languages

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@mahatmaniggandhi2898]

RIP :(

[@mahatmaniggandhi2898]

@Ahmet Altaş mapping i wish more people would set aside their historical differences and spread peace ☹❤

[@barbarianbatista8027]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

[@fm-gamer5617]

Greek is an Anatolian language because the Greeks came from west Anatolia 10.000 years ago. The Anatolian languages were indogermanic languages like Greek.

[@VulcanTrekkie45]

I'm surprised by how long the last Anatolian languages held on. I don't usually think of such an ancient language family lasting into the Middle Ages

[@napabilirim]

Uhm... sorry but Egyptian is still being spoken. It's not an extinct language, it's just a dead language, but still being spoken in churches occasionally, and was never completely lost, like Latin. It also sadly has alot of Hellenic loan words and it's not REALLY Egyptian though, so I guess you're right. Also, Arabic and Hebrew are VERY ancient languages as well.

[@VulcanTrekkie45]

@@napabilirim Last time I checked, none of those languages were Anatolian languages...

[@Gabsboy123]

@@napabilirim The Coptic language is the modern form of Egyptian. The Christians in Egypt are still being referred to as Copts.

[@napabilirim]

@@Gabsboy123 Copts are Greek though. Ancient Egyptians were black and Copts are literally as white as a French person

[@qaz1001]

@@napabilirim bess sausack birdey emess

[@fridayyy.2102]

You might not have realised it but your work has improved a lot!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you :)

[@fridayyy.2102]

@@CostasMelas No problem

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

The Romans all but wiped out the native Anatolian languages by encouraging the spread of Greek/Romaeica to replace them. Ironic then that later the Seljuks and Ottomans would use a similar policy to wipe out Romaeica.

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

whats romaeica

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 It was the name of what most of us know as the Greek language during the later Roman Empire until the 19th century, where it had borrowed thousands of Latin loan words (and many Turkish also). Romaeica is the Latinized transilteration of the Greek ρωμαίικα or ρωμαϊκή γλώσσα.

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

@@legioromanaxvii7644 ok was one of the most wide spoken languages of the world?

[@perseusofmacedon6918]

@@legioromanaxvii7644 romaeica which in Greek means literally roman( because Easter Romans called themselves Romans) borrowed Turkish words?

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

@@perseusofmacedon6918 Only after the Ottomans conquered the Romans.

[@keepup32323]

This channel together with I Love Languages has revealed to me the world and history in all of my years of study under such a dynamism I could've never imagined. Thank you for your work. Our curiosity has no boundaries!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much

[@kkoron7908]

Cant be the oly one that was surprised by the extent of the Anatolian Languages so deep in Greece.

[@user-sz9dj1pl9o]

That was before greek speaking people migrated to these areas

[@AD-yq8rl]

@@user-sz9dj1pl9o No not at all. there were Mediterranean people who were living in Greece before the Greeks. Such as Cycladic and Minoan civilizations. They were not Greek.

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

@@AD-yq8rl Minoan's aren't Greek?

[@christermi]

@@AD-yq8rl They are predecessors of Greeks, so they are Greeks.

[@CostasMelas]

The main witnesses for this expansion is the toponyms with suffix -ssos/ssa, nthos/ndos/nda common in Greece and Asia Minor. This is maybe reinforced by the references of the ancient Greeks (although vague enough because of the distant past) about the pre-Greek tribes which are settled also in Asia (Leleges, Carians etc)

[@she6064]

As a Anatolian thanks for this video!

[@metehankurt4758]

Türk müsün? Ben de Anadolu'luyum keşke Eski Anadolu dilleri ölmeseydi de onları konuşsaydık.

[@yenidenturktarihtezi]

@@metehankurt4758 ne alaka

[@talatpasa9245]

@Ali Kılıç Dna testinde eski Anadolu halklarını değil günümüz Anadolu insanını gösteriyor. Yani dna testinde Anadolu çıkınca hititli olmuyorsun.

[@talatpasa9245]

@Ali Kılıç Ben sana Anadolulu kime denir mi? dedim .Dna testinde Anadolu çıkıyorsa günümüzde Anadolu'da yaşayan insanlarına olan genetik benzerliğinden dolayı çıkıyor.

[@talatpasa9245]

@Ali Kılıç Kendini hititli lidyalı görüyorsan gör. Beni ilgilendirmez

[@nikhilalbert3084]

Was waiting for this! Thanks! Tocharian and Thracian would be Interesting, too.

[@CostasMelas]

You're welcome :)

[@jomainvatlar]

Never ask a woman; her age. Never ask a man; his salary. Never ask a Greek; what happened to the entire branch of Anatolian languages.

[@Nastya_07]

Not really the entire branch since Palaic, Hittite, Kalašma and Luwian proper went extinct before Hellenization.

[@jomainvatlar]

@@Nastya_07 no one likes Luwian proper anyway

[@Ntopios]

​@@jomainvatlar Never ask a turk what happened to all Pontic Greeks & Armenians of Anatolia.

[@islammehmeov2334]

​@@Ntopiosrevenge for the NATIVE ANATOLIAN how were all genocide 😜

[@kingtryfon5702]

@@islammehmeov2334 yea but the coastal parts of anatolia like ionia were always greek.Ok you had your revenge now give as the aegean coast

[@crazyitalianguy000]

This is by far the saddest of all your videos but still amazing.

[@blackphoenix3220]

Lol.

[@o-o2399]

yup

[@hieratics]

@@regabrielexv only glorious hellenization 😎

[@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777]

@@hieratics and then turkification.

[@kkoron7908]

@@hieratics tbf Greeks were the closest people to the Ancient Anatolians

[@Gabsboy123]

Asia Minor sure underwent drastic linguistic changes. From the Bronze Age Hittites to Greek to Turkic

[@Sporkonafork1]

@Volkan facts

[@ayberk3888]

@Volkan actually during seljuk and ottoman times main difference between turks and greeks in anatolia was religion, culture was very similiar since both had ancient anatolian traditions and customs, only difference in culture was arabic, persian and central asian influence in the turks, so i think islam is an integral part of turkish identity, even though i am not muslim, i think we should preserve some of the more moderate and well established islamic and central asian traditions, even though we are anatolian and our ancestors were anatolian

[@deanticocombar7529]

​​@@ayberk3888ro the thing is that Anatolians were always separate from Greeks under byzentine empire they were assimilated forcefully by Greeks .if there were no Turks or Islam then land of Anatolia may never be free from Greeks .Greeks occupied this land when alexender the great invaded Anatolia.Native Anatolians were close to ancient Greeks but they were not Greeks neither they were Armenians.Anatolian identity rise again when these native Anatolians who were greekified were then turkified and made them successfully separate from Greeks and hence now Anatolia was a separate in form of turkey a modern country definitely Turkic culture and Islam helps them to break off from the Greeks . Native Anatolians were unique people unfortunately they were destroyed by greeks

[@ayberk3888]

@@deanticocombar7529 wrong, during the byzantine empire balkan greeks and anatolians both had common identity, spoke the same language, believed in same religion, they were both romans (rum in modern turkish), yes they were assimilated but that was during the alexander's era, not byzantine era and by the time of byzantines anatolians were pretty much same as balkan greeks and there was a cultural synthesis during that period since balkan greeks also took many things from anatolians, they were both called roman. Turks assimilated anatolian romans again and created a cultural synthesis combining eastern roman (greek), persian and central asian cultures. So byzantine culture is a synthesis of greek and anatolian cultures, anatolian turkish culture is a synthesis of byzantine, persian and central asian cultures.

[@deanticocombar7529]

@@ayberk3888 yeah similar case both are Greek empires both times assimilation happens.Yes before Turks they were also known as equal Greeks. byzentine empire even use these Anatolian Greeks to repopulate the Balkans when trouble happens in Balkan peninsula .

[@slyninja4444]

3:22 Bronze_age.exe has stopped responding.

[@g.kech.10]

Ι knew some things about these languages from the history I read. But I didn't know how they were interwoven. We can also watch the greek, phrygian and armenian languages in the N, NW side migrating. Thank you Costas.

[@CostasMelas]

You're welcome :)

[@blackphoenix3220]

Great job as always, I wanted this one.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@jakr9303]

Love the music you use for these videos.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

They became hellenized, Hellenized Rûms are their descendants.

[@GeoBBB123]

@Souleiman the Great And one day again Yunanlar. Inshallah. Lol :)

[@CobraRedstone]

@Souleiman the Great You are imaginary Turks. You are Anatolians.

[@volkanaydemir1440]

@@GeoBBB123 no ,thnks

[@volkanaydemir1440]

@@CobraRedstone no

[@GeoBBB123]

@@volkanaydemir1440 Well you probably look more Mediterranean than Central Asian. And just think ... you'll be able to abandon the lies of your dirty prophet!!!

[@enestekin6109]

I am living in geography once Pisidian was spoken. It mesmerizes me how those languages stayed alive until Greek influence.

[@theodorospadelidis6537]

i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

[@DoofyGilmore1299]

Greeks destroyed many anatolian cultures and many anatolian language...

[@theodorospadelidis6537]

@Yanki Kiran i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

[@conornorris6815]

its enough to make a grown man cry

[@godzillaemr]

If only somebody would dedicate time to reincarnate these languages the same way the Jews did with Modern Hebrew, these languages were too precious, still massive love from Turkey, love your vids!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

But the people are long gone.

[@yourwifesfirsthusband2038]

But you're 100% pure turkic people

[@Valkyraw]

@@Zeyede_Seyum where did the people go? where did the ENTIRETY if anatolia go to?

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

@@Valkyraw to your mom.

[@bendahara8284]

I love watching all of your videos... it's really informative!👍

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@KH-hw4cu]

Great work 👍👍👍

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV]

As great a video as always. And as for this language family itself, colour me both saddened and impressed. Saddened due to it's demise, but also impressed by how it persisted much longer than I thought it did.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you :)

[@Kingofportals]

They made it to the middle of the 600s A.D. which means they survived into the Islamic conquests period. I didn’t think they made it past the fall of Western Rome let alone deep into the Middle Ages.

[@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777]

These languages died because of us other Indo-Europeans like Greeks and Iranians.

[@jan4230]

@@iranmaster No, Anatolian languages had already gone extinct before Turks expand within Anatolia. It was Greeks who assimilated them.

[@yenidenturktarihtezi]

@Db_Krdstn only in your dream

[@wankawanka3053]

By died you mean assimilated?

[@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777]

Thanks for making this video. Now once again I'm reminding to make a sums up video of Anatolian, Hellenic, Paleo-Balkan & Armenian, Phygrian languages' extent. And another video on Tocharian languages. Then the Almighty Indo-European languages. Best of luck for that.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@ErmisSouldatos]

The discovery of written Hittite in cuneiform was pivotal to Indo-European studies, since it helped create the laryngeal theory, which solved problems and explained some previously inexplicable things

[@AntiquusDiscipulus]

Great video, Melas!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you :)

[@smokingcat7960]

Proto Anatolian Proto Lydian Hittite Palaic Luwic Carian Lycian Pisidian Lydian Luwian Sidetic Milyan Ancient Cappadocian Isaurian

[@_berat.ugur_3089]

assimilated by greeks...

[@borakaraca9788]

Hitite is an ancient kingdom. today middle of the capital city of Turkey we have an hittitian sun statue

[@theodorospadelidis6537]

​@@borakaraca9788 i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

[@xdd87]

@@theodorospadelidis6537 Seljuks were %25-%45 East Eurasian. Modern Turks are %7-%22 except eastern black sea.

[@ΕυαγγελοςΑγγελος-ρ6ζ]

​@@_berat.ugur_3089Yeah But 2.000 Years Before You

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Real Anatolians 😍

[@blackphoenix3220]

You are a Turkified Anatolian.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

@@blackphoenix3220 get a life kid

[@blackphoenix3220]

@@papazataklaattiranimam kiddo accept the truth :)

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

@@blackphoenix3220 and after all turks accept the truth what did you gain through that than? if you gained nothing or something useless than youre campaign was or is useless youre only doing this to put others in shame than

[@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777]

@@blackphoenix3220 they will never accept the truth. They can never accept the truth. They have more, Anatolian, Hurro-urartian, Hellenic, Hittite, Armenian, Assyrian genes than Monglo-turkic 7% genetical clusters. Absolutely nobody on earth is 100% Turkic or Aryans but definitely Yakuts are the most Turkic people on earth with 86% turkomongoloid Genes

[@herculianthegreat]

Very hard work Congrats

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you. Indeed it was one of the most difficult I have made

[@bluemym1nd]

But then the Romans came and smashed it

[@GeoBBB123]

Actually it was largely the Greeks who absorbed these Anatolian language speakers.

[@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173]

@@GeoBBB123 Well, he is not exactly wrong either. You're both partially right. The Roman governors of Anatolia opened up the interior of Anatolia where the indigenous tribes being ignorant of Greco-Roman culture resided. As you may already know, the Romans are known for speaking Latin but what is less known to many folks is that the Romans had embraced Greek language and culture as their own language and what not. The Roman governors sent emissaries to the deep, inland areas of Anatolia to recruit Isaurians, Pisidians, Bithinians, Paphlagonians etc. Oftentimes, this had the effect of opening up the larger Greek cities under Roman rule to the non Greek-speaking regions. In order to integrate these barbarian lands into the Empire, the Greek language was often imposed upon the locals. It took almost 700 - 1000 years but by the later 7th century most of Anatolia was Greek-speaking, thanks to the Roman policies. So frankly I would say that the Greeks provided the fuel and lit it at first but the Roman Pax Romana set the spark that would make it explode.

[@GeoBBB123]

@@trantorcapitalofthegalacti3173 I agree ... although there was already a shitload of 'Greek fuel' for the Romans to use. The Greeks had very deep roots on the coast and, in the wake of Alexander's conquests even before the Romans, a good number of cities (with a combined population of Greek colonists and locals) were founded in many parts of the Anatolian interior.

[@napabilirim]

@@GeoBBB123 Romans brung Greek over. Remember, Eastern Mediterranean didn't speak Latin during that period, but they were largely Hellenized. Jesus couldn't speak Latin as well, but he did speak Greek fluently.

[@basilikalathas5388]

It was the Greeks. Asia Minor ( for you Anatolia) never spoke Latin. N e v e r . It was a greek speaking region.

[@GeoBBB123]

Yep . This accords very well with my view that 'Pre-Greek' is essentially, in most part anyway, comprised of Anatolian IE.

[@gokalptozlu9201]

Sad whole language family has disappeared.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Nope. It was a process from Greeks, Romans, Crusaders, Turks and Sassanids. It's a process. Besides the Greeks (or Romans or Crusaders or Turks) colonized the land. Pots not pottery more cultural than genetic. Though the genetics of certain groups could influx in certain regions and it's likely the families who are nomadic or recently sedimentary are more Turkic than the long standing city dwellers.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@Nadir Hikmet Kuleli exactly. Greeks and Armenians aren't only not Anatolian speakers they live in the periphery of the peninsula Culturally however they have a impact on the region and Armenia itself was culturally influenced by the Anatolians.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@Nadir Hikmet Kuleli the Greeks and Armenians has slight impacts genetically on the periphery.

[@somebody1241]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 Turks just responsible for Galatian and it is a Celtic Language and they are not alone in this subject they do this with Byzantines(Greeks)

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@somebody1241 Galatian died off around 600s AD

[@HusaviProductions]

Good video! How about history of the Thracian languages?

[@CostasMelas]

Thanks, very likely for the next one

[@thanasisvoutsas461]

@@CostasMelas when did thracians start identifying as greek ?

[@smokingcat7960]

Husavi production senin ne işin var

[@menear]

i absolutely love the colouring

[@king_halcyon]

Amazing video as always! You're the best in making these types of videos! What did you plan for next?

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much. Thracian or Illyrian maybe the next

[@massimolisoni4990]

The music is amazing 😭

[@barbarianbatista8027]

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[@koseku3]

İ like how taurus mountains creates an isolated hub for last anatolian language

[@Gabsboy123]

Interestingly, the Isaurian and Phrygian dynasties had ruled over the Eastern Roman Empire through a period of turmoil in the 8th-10th Centuries

[@redokstepkimesi6187]

I wish they didin't go extinct and survived until today. It would be very interesting what would they evolve into and would be like today.

[@celestialweaver8460]

Was so excited for this one!

[@CostasMelas]

Glad you like it

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

I love it when people say Anatolians are Turkicized Greeks today. That's a fallacy. Rather instead they are Turkicized Anatolians. Greek blood is like 15-40% for the western coastlings. It's not a fallacy to say that the Anatolians Hellenized than Turkicized. Some probably also Iranianicized in the southeastern part. It's funny the 15-45% Turkic DNA (especially for the nomadic tribals like the Yoruks) is easily dismiss but the Greek DNA isn't dismiss. of course western Turks today have that percentage of Greek blood but Anatolian blood from these civilizations here (as well as the later Phyrgians and Armenians) makes more sense to mention than the Greek blood. Of course people in Turkey today acknowledge Greek blood and some citizens of Turkey identify as Pontic Greeks. And off topic the western Anatolians can also easily have substantial Thracian and Illyrian blood too. But my case is in point. I am not here to dismiss the Greeks btw. The history of Anatolia under it's Hellenic history is fabulous. I love Greek culture. And Greek diaspora in Anatolia. Most Turkish citizens have mostly Anatolian ancestry.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@OnoxXx yes I have admitted and basically said "ok maybe western Turkey has Greek DNA" but not central southern, northern and eastern areas as much

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

@Souleiman the Great everybody is greek and jewish according to myheritage nonsense😹

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@papazataklaattiranimam God I hate MyHeritage. 23&me is better. Ancestry is alright but is too broad.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@Souleiman the Great That is a complete possibility. Though it would of been identified as Balkanic would it not?

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@papazataklaattiranimam Nigerian too. Everyone seems to get a lot of Nigerian.

[@lukasbrucas3027]

Very interesting video! Fascinating that Anatolian languages were also widely spoken in Greece, I never knew that. Where did the Anatolian languages come from though? From the Caucasus or through the Balkans? Bacause the starting location of proto-Anatolian seems very close to the Balkans.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you. The exact route of the Proto-anatolians is still a debate object

[@scoffedeee7381]

It's most likely the came from caucuses

[@turkcukayi]

I am a mixture of ancient Asia Minor and Turkish. We are the heirs of the Eastern Roman and Ottoman Empire. It is proud to be the heir of these two civilizations.

[@HelloIdkwhatname]

Don't forget Anatolian Greeks😉

[@turkcukayi]

@@HelloIdkwhatname Anatolian Rums can return to their homeland, Türkiye.

[@pseudokanax2957]

@@turkcukayi some of them are Muslims Rûms and Turkish citizens be respectful to our Anatolian brothers.

[@zaboybagoi8636]

@@HelloIdkwhatname Greeks are an Anatolian people descended from Aegean farmers who are descended from local Anatolian Hunter Gatherers.Even though Yamnayan Nomads (Elite warrior nobility just like Seljuk Turks) changed Greek language and religion. Ethnicity and culture remained Aegean

[@zaboybagoi8636]

@@pseudokanax2957 Turkish Oghuz people and Rum Hellen people are different peoples and these 2 never intermingled except bride kidnappings,land figthings and village raidings.

[@bubirarda]

as an anatolian, i have to thank you so much

[@CostasMelas]

You're welcome :)

[@KKODAXIS1982]

Turks are not Anatolians. They are Mongolian tribe. Anatolia is now occupied by this you call "turkey".

[@fseretis8seretis799]

when you say Anatolian you mean turk??Well,turks migrated from Central Asia.

[@bubirarda]

@@fseretis8seretis799 i mean, i am a modern anatolian. i see myself as a hybrid of turks, greeks and ancient anatolians. so i call myself as "anatolian" :)

[@Pao234_]

@@KKODAXIS1982 Anatolian Turks are Turkic in only language and maybe a little culture. They have little Turkic dna and are basically Anatolians

[@paradinefamily5773]

Great video and I think it accurately illustrates how the PIE peoples encircled the Hatti, and possibly how the related Kaska held out and then allegedly wiped out the Pala. Interesting to note, Haplotypes related to the First Farmers were found in the late Chalcolithic in area around Hattusa as well as the Pontic Region to the north. It could be that the Hattic people spoke a language related to the First Farmers of Europe.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much

[@CH-tn3fn]

Which could be related to Basque, as DNA evidence seems to show that the Basque people were not descendants of Europe's prehistoric hunter gatherers, as was assumed before, but of the Neolithic people who brought farming to southern Europe.

[@adamweizer8893]

Nice! Great video again!!! Amazing work!!!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much

[@miiiiiiiiiiii]

Lovely vid Kostas)

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@Nullius_in_verba]

Interesting fact that you have showed the spreading of Anatolian in the Aegean area. I ever believed in some connection between Minoan,Tyrsenian and Anatolian languages..

[@العربيء]

R.I.P ANATOLIAN LANGUAGES 💔.

[@신중용]

Anatolian languages, changed Turks 🇹🇷🐎🐺

[@wankawanka3053]

@@신중용 for how long is the question 😂

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

@@신중용 they got Hellenised first

[@ErmisSouldatos]

So there is a theory that the Minoan and Cycladic civilisations were Luwic-speaking, therefore of Anatolian origin? Does anyone know what clues point to that direction and whether or not it is a generally accepted theory?

[@Tztimelord]

As Troy fell, the seeds of vengeance had already appeared in the depths of Asia. Centuries later, the Turks came for the revenge of Troy and the freedom of Anatolia.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

No Turks didn't conceptualize or care or mission about Troy.

[@Tztimelord]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 actually you are super wrong... Mehmed II who was the conqueer of constantinople was a fan of iliad and he knew Troy so well. When he captured the city he declaired finally he had troy's revenge . And after greko turkish war and when greeks were withdrawn from Anatolia, Mustafa Kemal also said same thing . So Troy is Asia and a big deal For turks, another asian nation

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@Tztimelord I just remembered after reading this again. The Romans said the exact same thing. Since Romans regarded themselves of Trojan descent

[@wankawanka3053]

Freedom of Anatolia?lol more like under new management 😂

[@wankawanka3053]

@@Tztimelord lol nice fairy tales dude 🤣

[@Spinozathecat]

Great video 👍

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@exorientelux7200]

I am deeply touched by this video. It’s my honour to be their descendant. What a land to live on...

[@oguzhantekden2]

On my main channel, I prepare videos with subtitles in 3 different languages for folk music of different nations. You are also invited... :) One of the examples I have prepared: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIPTaniMp7tqbas

[@Palladiosios]

You're not their descendants. Most of these people weren't just hellenic in speech and culture but also blood. Not only were they extremely genetically similar to the Greeks, before the Greeks arrived but after we started building colonies in Anatolia, they became even more so

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@Palladiosios given that modern Anatolians are only 15-45% Turkic in blood it's obvious DNA test estimates would just conclude that Anatolians descend from various people. People back then didn't commit consistent genocide. They are horny and intermarry. Stop denying human nature because only modern day was refusal to mix and genocide for nationalist reasons started to conceptually exist.

[@blyat5352]

Turks are turkified Caucasians( Caucasus ) with a bit of turkic blood. Only descendants of ancient anatolians are levatines and anatolian 'greeks'.

[@sepulturaoftheforest2869]

@@blyat5352 Stop stealing our Anatolian ancestrors arab. Ok?

[@yenidenturktarihtezi]

Proud of my native Anatolian ancestors and Turkic Ancestors.

[@scoffedeee7381]

Greece isn't gonna be happy Constantinople

[@Traderrocky2004]

@@scoffedeee7381 İstanbul :D 😂😂😂😂😂

[@zekielvanclef5093]

@@scoffedeee7381 well it was built by greekified anatolians from today aydın so its ours not theirs Im talking about hagia sophia and constantinople

[@wankawanka3053]

Turk amd native Anatolian lol🤣

[@wankawanka3053]

@@zekielvanclef5093 greekefied anatolians just say you are turkified greeks it's not that hard

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

They were actually Neolithic Anatolian Farmers who got assimilated by Indo-European ruling elites. Almost everybody have ANF ancestry in Europe also even Irish people have like 40% Anatolian blood. Greeks and Italians are around 70% Anatolians too.

[@xxnxnsj1346]

*Kalkolitik Anadolulardı.Ve de %5 gibi Yamnaya genetiği var.Kötü yani bu oran da.Bu kadar olmayan topluluklar var:d

[@xxnxnsj1346]

İtalyanlar %30 gibi Yamnaya genetiği taşıyorlar.Geriye kalansa Kalkolitik İtalya yerlileri.

[@mustafa_karaca]

Bence Anadolu ciftçileri gerçek hint avrupalıydı. En eski Hint avrupa dili anadoluda. Kurgan hipotezi yanlış

[@tasosltss1988]

Amazing video and so interesting!! I didn't know they had reached so far in mainland Greece!!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@fidel1803]

very interesting. How some languages have disappeared. Together with culture and national characters.

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

people think this life is paradise but no this life is hell but not the worst one

[@БоянБогданов-ю6о]

But the genes remain....

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

@@БоянБогданов-ю6о seems useless

[@БоянБогданов-ю6о]

@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 I don't agree. Culture and social environment are important too, but still there are more important things. Sadly modern day mainstream forbids such topics.

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

@@БоянБогданов-ю6о "Sadly modern day mainstream forbids such topics" wdym with this

[@JohnSmith-of2gu]

That's some extensive presence in Mainland Greece and Crete of the Luwic branch, which mostly fades before it splits into specific known languages. What is the basis for showing it spread so far?

[@CostasMelas]

In some sources, the migration of the Luvians is considered responsible for the common toponyms that exist in Greece and Asia Minor with suffic -nthos/ndos/nda -ssos/ssa

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Europeans: Turks are Arabs Turks are Anatolians Turks are Greco-Armenians Turks are Mongolians Turks are ... We are literally everything except Turk😹

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Nope yep some nope Tribal nomads are Turkic The longer a family was sedimentary the less Turkic at least I think. And Europeans aren't the only people that do that. qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8e9b5624379085ab19d2b3512552de1a No one that I know of disputes most groups as Turkic except the Oghuz (the red) and the Khalaj.

[@sobertowelie3267]

You're far from being Turks. You look like Middle Easterners; you're majority Muslim and minority Christian (Karamanlides and Gagauz) instead of Tengrian; you live far away from other Turks and most of you have a high percentage of Armenian, Hellenic, Slavic, Kurdish, Iranian, Arab, Anatolian, Bulgar and Middle Eastern blood / ancestry. You're only still Turks by name and language.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@sobertowelie3267 Karaminlides? Who that?

[@sobertowelie3267]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 A Turkish speaking minority group in Greece and Turkey adhering to Greek Orthodox Christianity. The Karamanli alphabet is basically Turkish written with the Greek alphabet but with a few more Greek loanwords.

[@DonKrieg-382]

@@sobertowelie3267 turkmens from Turkmenistan also look like middle easterners same with some uyghurs from east turkestan whats ur point

[@narekmargaryan4429]

History of Thracian languages next!

[@turcorumtabul9524]

Well actually I'm started to thinking about create new language called Anatolian and it will contain the synthesis of Anatolian languages that spoke in past such as Carian, Hittite, Lycian, Lydian etc. but if I could find any words for example or grammar or maybe know pronunciation...

[@slyninja4444]

As a linguaphile, I was thinking a similar thing. Hypothetical: After WWI, Ataturk reforms the turkish language in a different way: 1. Keeps the greek loanwords. 2. Replaces all the loanwords of Persian, Kurdish, Armenian, Arabic, Aramaic, Caucasian, etc. origin with their Hittite equivalent (at least what was decipherd at the time). While any remaining non-turkish words are replaced with words of turkic origin (like in our timeline). 3. Any known vocabulary from Hattic, Galathian, Phrygian, Mysian, Lydian, Luwian, Carian, Palaic, or Cappadocian replace the turkish word (excluding any vocab already replaced by hittite). Result is a language that is still majority turkic, but has words from all the various conquerers of anatolia.

[@slyninja4444]

I also imagined a similar thing for Azerbaijan. Hypothetical: To better distinguish themselves as a separate ethnic group from the anatolian Turks, the Azerbaijanis reform their language. 1. Keeps any words of Caucasian origin. 2. Any words of Greek, Persian, Armenian, Arabic, Aramaic, or Kurdish origin are replaced with their Talysh equivalent. 3. Any words (at least most) identical to turkish or turkmen are replaced with their Khalaj (perferably), Qashqai (if Khalaj word is the same), or Khinalug (if no Khalaj or Qashqai word is available) equivalent. Assuming the anatolian turkish reform mentioned above also takes place, it would result in 2 different Oghuz languages.

[@yourwifesfirsthusband2038]

@@slyninja4444 the old azeri language is tat language which is still alive and survive

[@slyninja4444]

@@yourwifesfirsthusband2038 Yeah, thats why I mentioned Talysh

[@tark4027]

Yeah, really liked it.

[@sarsath7481]

What language family was replacing the Anatolian languages in northern Anatolia before the Greeks?

[@christermi]

Mostly Phrygian tribes.

[@g.kech.10]

And armenian ones.

[@g.kech.10]

Later paflagonians, a branch of the north phrygians.

[@williamliamsmith4923]

These videos you make are great visualization tools. Can you add references to scholarly papers or data you use? That would add credibility to them. Where you are speculating- mention that.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you. It would be great, but a little difficult to place the sources in the video stream

[@scoffedeee7381]

@@CostasMelas just put them in the description of the video

[@spino-soar-us9206]

Fun Fact - The Kalašma language was announced to be discovered in 2023 as a new Anatolian language located in the modern province of Bolu.

[@_berat.ugur_3089]

ahh. Anatolian natives ... assimilated by the Greeks ... most Greeks are actually Anatolian natives.

[@arasorman9912]

Anatolians Greekized Greek Turkifled

[@arasorman9912]

Anatolia İs Not Turk

[@arasorman9912]

Anatolia Greek Georgian Kurdish Armanian Syriac Mixed You Are Not Turkish

[@SM-zl4zd]

@@arasorman9912 "anatolia is not turk" someone didnt get the note from 1071 AD.

[@arasorman9912]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4i4qpSIiq5pmas

[@ratcastle0679]

Intersting video! Good job👍

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@alb2451]

seeing a language family dying is sad ...

[@emperortheodorosvi1857]

seeing photos of my grandparents starved to death by turks is even sadder but this is who you are

[@kasadam85]

@@emperortheodorosvi1857 He isn't even a Turk, he's Arab. Jesus Christ, you are one dangerous kind of nationalist.

[@emperortheodorosvi1857]

@@kasadam85 i dont care what he is turetard what matters is thats turkey killed 400k greeks in 1919-1921 still refuses it.you are nationalist

[@Thomas-u8q]

Could you post any the sources you used in making this video, or in future videos more generally?

[@rag0t2010]

greetings, have you ever played Crusader Kings 2?

[@En_4]

Cool!

[@celtofcanaanesurix2245]

WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED! Indo european is almost complete!, also; how sad, I wish a descendant of Lydian or Hittite was still alive or common even in Anatolia today...

[@CostasMelas]

I think it remains Illyrian, Thracian and Tocharian

[@blackphoenix3220]

The people who live there now are essentially their descendants! Culture and language changes, people don't.

[@pas1994ok]

@@CostasMelas You have done Baltic languages before?

[@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777]

@@pas1994ok yeah

[@redokstepkimesi6187]

@Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Ypu can be decendants of Anatolians, but you're also decendants of Turkomans. I agree on the second statement though.

[@magnahungaria8123]

Wery apriciating!

[@RichardEdwards40]

Anatolian languages used to be spoken in Greece? where is your source for that. interesting.

[@CostasMelas]

This theory based on toponyms with suffic -nthos and -ssos with anatolian origin, but frequent in Bronze age Greece

[@RichardEdwards40]

@@CostasMelas very interesting. that should prove that the Anatolian languages came from the Balkans.

[@RichardEdwards40]

​@@CostasMelas Anatolian languages could have even been spoken in the island of Crete? i thought it was only Minoans. very interesting

[@kotsaris87]

@@RichardEdwards40 the minoan language is likely anatolian

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

That Bronze Age Civilisation collapse really hit hard.

[@cavemancyproductions]

Κώστα έχω μια ερώτηση αν επιτρέπεται. Είμαστε εμείς οι Έλληνες υπέυθυνοι για τον χαμό κάποιων από αυτών των γλωσσών?

[@CostasMelas]

Σε μεγάλο ποσοστό η παρακμή των τελευταίων γλωσσών της Ανατολίας οφείλεται στον εξελληνισμό των τοπικών πληθυσμών, κατά τη διάρκεια της ελληνιστικής, ρωμαϊκής και πρώιμης βυζαντινής περιόδου.

[@leventerylmaz5901]

Yes, you Greeks assimilated them and i wonder why nobody talks about this.

[@mdlunasofficial7478]

Thank you Costas

[@diegoragot655]

Hey there, would You play one Special CK2 mod??

[@CraftDayFriends]

as for the languages we've actually had the opportunity to record there seems to be no other region like Anatolia in terms of changing languages from completely different groups throughout history

[@najibullahghafori3739]

yes and that has to be because they weren't able to protect themselves and make their own rule and kingdom, thus losing their identity and language all the time

[@ozanmrcan]

turks avenged anatolians by de-greekifying anatolia lol

[@estellarrosa]

what is the music you are using? it's beautiful!

[@CostasMelas]

See the description section below the video

[@stateofconstatinopole8316]

Yeah turks stop talking because Greeks were native to anatolia too and Anatolians were brothers to the greeks and they just got absorbed into greek culture its like if germans made Scandinavia german so turks dont say that they are your ancestors and greeks destroyed them you are central Asian soo you have nothing to do with them

[@alisaeedi8973]

Today Turkey people are half Greec and half Iranian. They are originally Ariyan. Just their languge is Turkish.

[@stateofconstatinopole8316]

@@alisaeedi8973 not all of them some do have Turkic DNA

[@kasadam85]

This video clearly shows that they weren't native, have you seen the ancient Greek language in the video?. How about you don't tell a group of people to stop talking? Everyone's got free will, cry elsewhere, bud.

[@stateofconstatinopole8316]

@@kasadam85 lol it dosent show Greek becuase Greek is also part of Europe all the people of the area are related we are from the same indo european family group turks are from finno urgic or Turkic something I don't remember and Greek and most of the languages of anatolia have many similarities to each other they are like polish and Russian to each other

[@kasadam85]

@@stateofconstatinopole8316 Polish and Russian are completely two different languages, similarities don't make them sibling languages :D

[@fernando-ek6dr]

Damn, this was an very large voyage

[@ΣτράτοςΤσουκάρης]

Άλλη μία πολύ καλή δουλειά σου!

[@CostasMelas]

Ευχαριστώ πολύ

[@leventerylmaz5901]

What a sad history. I wish anatolian languages were still spoken somewhere. 😢

[@pas1994ok]

A very sad history about a language, it will be very sad if in the future this same thing will happen again with other languages and language families

[@thadsul]

It will and is happening right now. Just look at the languages native to the Americas

[@stevenfallinge7149]

@@thadsul At least any language that stops being spoken now will usually be recorded and have a dictionary and therefore have a chance at revival. Back then making books was a very intensive and manual process, so almost nothing was recorded.

[@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777]

@@thadsul Globalization is the greatest threat to cultural preservation. My self being born to two different group of Iranian people living in another Iranian language speaking Area unable to speak any of my nativelang make those language 1step closer to death.

[@i_likemen5614]

It happened/is happening with all the native American and North Asian languages

[@i_likemen5614]

@@stevenfallinge7149 All that information would probably just get lost to time

[@martinomasolo8833]

Do we have some sources for how the Isaurian languages worked? Like some words or inscriptions?

[@CostasMelas]

We know few words and names that nevertheless can show the Anatolian origin of the language

[@rampantmutt9119]

Man, I feel bad for all these languages.

[@josieschultz4241]

i might be hormonal but this made me want to cry

[@TSGC16]

Damn the Anatolian languages made it all the way from 3500 BC to the rise of Islam.

[@muratgun6386]

good video. I thought you would come to this day

[@redokstepkimesi6187]

me when "tehy say anatolian languages r gon" "no" :(

[@theskycavedin]

Maybe one day we'll find some stone tablets with the Anatolian languages on them, right next to the ones of African Romance

[@precursors]

DNA tests done on some samples taken from a Lydian Sarcophagus in Western Turkey showed that the direct descendants of that person in the sarcophagus still lived in a village 3 kilometers away 😂

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Oh cool. Who's the guy that done the test?

[@volkanaydemir1440]

fake

[@runegold321]

@@volkanaydemir1440 wdym fake? Modern day Turkish people are mostly descendands of anatolian people.

[@DonKrieg-382]

@@runegold321 cool atleast i dont have dogeater and horse worshiper genes

[@theodorospadelidis6537]

i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

[@Rastgele-rc8vp]

Right near where I live, there is one of the dozens of Carian Rock Tombs scattered throughout the region. The authorities took the valuable bones and belongings and abandoned the cemetery to nothingness. Now it is a garbage dump. Can you believe it? It's a remote garbage dump right next to a hundreds-year-old grave! Just a few days ago, a house was built on top of another cemetery. I learned. A long time ago, I saw people writing the names of their lovers on other graves and the state does not even hang a sign. I am someone who loves history and this pains me.

[@Palladiosios]

Most of these people weren't just hellenic in speech and culture but also blood. Not only were they extremely genetically similar to the Greeks, before the Greeks arrived but after we started building colonies in Anatolia, they became even more so

[@gorgon6680]

What sources did you use in order to make this video?

[@CostasMelas]

I used a numerous sources (Mallory, Douglas, Yakubovich, Bruce, Gurney, Sakellariou etc). I will organized them as bibliography in the future and I add it in the description

[@basilikalathas5388]

Where is the Greek language? Asia Minor was a greek speaking region for thousands of years.

[@CostasMelas]

The video is about the Anatolian Languages (term about a branch of Indo-European, not genarally the languages spoken in Anatolia)

[@mashiah1]

What languages were spoken in Northern Anatolia before the conquests of Alexander? Was it Persian, Aramaic or this area was already hellenized?

[@CostasMelas]

Mostly Phrygian language

[@metehanakar0]

We are Anatolian, every Turks doesnt know who is real Turk. Turkey Turks are have Turkish culture but their descent are Anatolian, Greek, Armenian, Assyrian, Georgian etc. Who was feel the Turk, he/she Turk. It's Ataturk was said that.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Kimse böyle bir şey demiyor sen hariç awq

[@metehanakar0]

@@papazataklaattiranimam tekrar oku doesnt'ı kaçırmışsın.

[@Yusuf-ig5tv]

Soyumuz sadece Anadolu halklarından geliyor,Yunanlılar,Ermeniler,Süryaniler, Gürcülerle alakamız yok.

[@metehanakar0]

@@Yusuf-ig5tv Anadolu haklarından bazıları İyonyalılar, Makedonlar, Urartulular, Frigler Yunan ve Ermeni asıllı Anadolu devletleri, Gürcüler ise daha çok onlar bizden etkilenmiş, o yüzden onları da saydım.

[@Yusuf-ig5tv]

@@metehanakar0 Urartular Hint Avrupalı değil yani Yunan ve Ermeni asıllı da değil,Frigyalılar Trak kabilesindendi,Makedonlar Anadolu'da yöneticiydi halkları yerer kabilelerdi. Sadece Iyonyalılar Anadolu Yunan kabilesi sayilır başka da yok.