Could An F-22 Squadron Defend Guam From Two Russian Tu-95 Bomber Regiments? (WarGames 193) | DCS

[@grimreapers]

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[@IDNeon357]

If you read through the article you'd see that modern warfare is moving into something you've already played with; the "offense/defense missile salvo". Aircraft Carriers become passive sensors and missile guidance platforms, which fits the PLA-Navy's build-out. The US is behind the curve. The Missile boats for the PLA-Navy are the "new weapon" of the future war. Meanwhile look up FARPs, the US to offset its disadvantages at sea now are repurposing the Marines (Marine Force 2030) to be FARP builders. Forward Area Refueling Points. Basically an "Island hopping 2.0" in order to turn Pacific islands quickly into refueling bases and air strips. Also my personal view is that the Chinese will just bypass Taiwan entirely. Their goal will be to seize Palau and possibly Wake Island and the whole island chains out that far...Solomon islands gets them most the way to Palau. They want to disable Kadena and Guam and replace them with their own Pacific Air Forces. I'm in the process of demonstrating that their military command structure reflects this; easier said than done. But, if you think about WW2, for instance; it's not like the Germans had a "Berlin defense division" that ended-up in Stalingrad. The divisions and their corps command structures often betray intentions. I expect the PLA has betrayed their intention to bypass Taiwan with their PLA-RF and Air Force squadrons. Taking a look at their "Brigidization" is already the first clue. Where an Air Force brigade can be rebased in some Forward operating theater. This was not possible before 2017 when the command structure were divisions centered around the "Theater command headquarters". What possible reason does China need a Brigidization of their huge Air Force if their only objective were for the Eastern Theater Command to take over Taiwan? Conclusion; China has no interest in Taiwan. It's a distraction to purposefully obscure their real intention to take over the Pacific out to Wake Island. apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/AD1082606.pdf

[@AxlePlaysGames]

“Would you intercept me?” Has become a global bit and I’m pleased to see it. Good job HLC

[@jamegumb7298]

I would intercept me. I'd intercept me so hard.

[@texasknight5175]

It was so sly...

[@bluenightfury4365]

Absolutely laughed out loud like a Hyena when I randomly heard it in the video.

[@dyrtymike5589]

I would intercept me... 🥳

[@shibiwowsawesomegaming4783]

"I'd intercept me"

[@stevensonDonnie]

It was noted in the 1990’sthat the TU-95’s are so loud that the Navy’s underwater sound detection system could tract them across the Atlantic.

[@aztec0112]

I know you can hear them in "Cold Waters" 😉

[@Durpyhehe]

🤓🤓🤓

[@Oskanwhitchfather]

Last I heard, Anderson has no less than 3 PAC-3 Patriots. Guam is a strategic base, and a territory. It's pretty well defended.

[@grimreapers]

Noted.

[@mikesmith-wk7vy]

not necessarily, we have been taking them out of our bases in the pacific to ship off to Ukraine lately . there simply arent making enough of them and our reserves are empty so the latest ones we have been giving to Ukraine are now coming from our own bases

[@Oskanwhitchfather]

@@mikesmith-wk7vy ha. If you think we've been sending anything other than the massive excess of equipment we have, you're insane. See, I know how the military functions. We keep X amount of shit on hand. Anything above that, we can sell, lend-lease, loan, etc. But, we must maintain that X amount, to be combat response ready. We haven't even reached the end of the "hey, let's throw together some FrankenSAMs to send over there. Stick Sidewinders in that old USSR launcher. Fight 50 year old tech with 50 year old tech". Now, since you don't know what you're talking about, I suggest you shut up.

[@Rossiman78]

​@mikesmith-wk7vy This is in no way, shape or form even remotely correct...

[@Oskanwhitchfather]

@@Rossiman78 Thanks, Colton. KZbin yeeted my reply to him, and I'm in too much pain to retype it all.

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

The fact we just sent 33 F-22s to the Philippines makes this video pretty accurate.

[@the215sean]

"Would you intercept me?" made me laugh way more than it probably should have 😂

[@harrisonpeck130]

It would be awesome to see the run again but this time with the AWACS pushed out to see a bit more instead of orbiting around the island. There’s no way a flight of Bears that large transits that far without being noticed so USAF/USN would absolutely have a heads up and push assets in that general direction to observe. That would give the raptors a very realistic earlier heads up and better reaction time. Also, maybe try an analog for the AEGIS Ashore system (even if it’s a destroyer off the coast to simulate it. That would be a fun slightly futuristic battle.

[@harrisonpeck130]

An off shore AEGIS system is actually a current part of the island’s missile defense network (open source) so it would be very likely that at least an Arleigh Burke or something similar would be in the area.

[@stevenpettit9976]

I read that usually 4 arleigh burke where there for defense, that one AEGIS system Relieves 3 burke destroyers

[@species3167]

USN has had a Tico and one other tin can offshore as air defense since I was in the service in the 90's, so I'd say the air defense was lacking as well. The Russian attack came from the wrong direction and US would definitely see this coming from about 1000 miles away. That said, Raptors would be able to intercept at best ranges and F-16s would also have time to be loaded up in Murder Spec. Don't know how many Patriot systems on the island, but seems like one is super low.

[@harrisonpeck130]

@@species3167 idk about the patriot system itself but I know the THAAD unit in Guam just recently relocated to another one of the islands. Apparently the issue they were having on the main island was that they didn’t have enough space to employ every launcher to make a complete battery. A big concern is not creating a big eye sore for the locals, not disrupting the tourism market, etc. But definitely just like you said, no way a flight of Bears gets that close without being spotted earlier, especially not a flight that large.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

AWACS hell! Satellites would have seen their heat radiation. Also the US would have had intel alerting them to the Bear presence long before they even got near Guam.

[@streetcop157]

I’m so impressed that cap turned right across the path of the other aircraft on takeoff and didn’t end up as a rising cloud of smoke.

[@Yata69]

I was thinking the same thing! Was expecting a "Oops! ahhhhhhh!"

[@Yata69]

As in Hach, have, hach! 😂

[@chrisdudley1784]

Or on the turn into the Zerg swarm that was the inbound cruise missiles.

[@species3167]

It's called PLOT ARMOR.

[@antonymitchell3385]

So I'm not saying "Buff vs Bear Dogfight" but I am thinking it very loudly!

[@matthewhall6288]

Man that would rule.

[@grimreapers]

Well they both have rear-facing guns, so I don't see why not??

[@Xenomorphine]

The US has just announced it's going to re-open a World War 2 air base on the north of Tinian (the island the international civilian airport is at). Not sure how long that would take, but it's apparently still functional enough to modernise. That should give the US twice the ability to defend that location and to ferry whatever's necessary to the Japanese and Taiwanese theatres.

[@Oskanwhitchfather]

My dude.... We've started making fresh, new, paint still wet, nuclear weapons for the first time in 32 years. Fuck that base. While I'm sure it's strategically important to the upcoming WWIII.... The B-1, B2, BUFF, F15 through the F22, A-10 Warthog, AC-130 Spectre Gunship, *_and_* the NGAD that's cooking up..... We don't really _need_ it.........

[@MarkoDash]

isn't that the one Enola Gay flew from?

[@stevealvarado4627]

Yes.@@MarkoDash

[@mrknifeguy7070]

Caps merge with the ALCMs was INTENSE. Would've loved an external shot of that one. Another great vid, guys.

[@vipondiu]

14:13 I did mentally the "...Would you intercept me?" Routine a second before someone says it xD you gotta love the lore...

[@brianlindsey3620]

Per Wikipedia’s, Guam now has an aegis combat system which is the equivalent of a Burke. Also had 2 pac 3s, and 5 c rams

[@ThatZenoGuy]

No way that's possible, the island would capsize from the weight.

[@ridgetop8161]

LOL :) 🤣@@ThatZenoGuy

[@dyrtymike5589]

I was stationed @ NAS Agana and Anderson AFB. This is the 1st video you ever made that made me feel some kinda way. Like you said, The bears would have never gotten close enough.

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

14:13wait, is that a habitual linecrosser reference?

[@someprofessonalname2008]

I'd intercept me. . .

[@WyvernFalken]

Of course.

[@someprofessonalname2008]

Haha

[@aaronstreeval3910]

I love how the external payload of those bears is the the cruise missiles capacity of a grigorovich class frigate

[@Architek79]

I love the “Demonitize” drops…hilarious!!!

[@treehugger33]

I've found a new interest... wargame simulations. Thanks for doing these! Your comment about the sheer scale of these engagements is spot on... incredible.

[@PreceptorGrant]

I really like that purple GR livery. You guys should use it more, makes you look like an actual elite merc unit.

[@simba1113]

yeah yea. Elite Merc unit, I like the sound of that. hahahahahah thanks for watching.

[@erikerice9068]

Grupnik has no problem flying formation with cruise missiles.

[@mnanthony3-ty3qh]

Not a massive tatical loss, a whole regiment of bears and their crews using up 176 complex cruise missiles. It could take months for Anderson to reopen, however it would take longer for red to replace its capability.

[@papatango2362]

Not really, runway patchwork can be done somewhat quickly. It’s more about base infrastructure.

[@ГеоргийМурзич]

Welp... It will take about a month or so to build new 200 cruise missiles

[@mnanthony3-ty3qh]

@@ГеоргийМурзич How long to replace the crew and airframes of the Bears?

[@jaguargr3]

@@mnanthony3-ty3qh practically impossible since the Bear is no longer being produced

[@XTXImperator]

@@jaguargr3 They could pull several dozen of them out of storage and upgrade them but that would take months if not years. The point is moot though since they would fire their cruise missiles from at least 500++/800++ miles/kilometers away.

[@JustalDragoone]

I'm just going to say this, Grim Reapers even though things don't go as always planned or the outcome unfavorable. That's not why I come to watch these epic videos. It's purely for the entertainment and commentary, that is what makes my day more enjoyable. I have always been a big fan of air based combat, of all types of air combat aircraft and Grim Reapers never fail to deliver in giving what we KZbinrs want in my book. 👍😀

[@TheticCrime]

Missile defense of Guam consist of Army THAAD, Patriot, Navy Aegis and SM 3 SM6

[@wst8340]

Pretty crappy😅😅😅😅

[@config2543]

Why not use the strike eagle instead of the viper? More missiles, better radar, and faster.

[@grimreapers]

It can't see missile with it's radar. Discovered that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXuoc2CchbNpjLs

[@BobTheHappyDinosaur]

Could you cheese it with more sidewinders?@@grimreapers

[@billwhoever2830]

I would like to see 4-6 bears firing a full loadout at the edge of their range, the island will get no early warning and the fight will basically start when the missiles are way too close. That many missiles are unrealistic and not a fair way to beat an air defense. Let us see if the defenses are capable to detect the missiles coming from multiple directions and with no early warning. The Bears just like the B52 are very old bombers that only make sense for long long range strikes. They are in no danger at all in such a strike mission.

[@davidstebbins4217]

One major missing element in the protection of Guam in the simulation is the Navy. Was this just an oversight?

[@TBH-nu2so]

It was trying to make it ever so slightly fair for Russia, considering the staggering difference in our military capability and theirs.

[@superflyguy4488]

GR videos are primarily aimed at being entertaining rather than pure Milsim, they need to reach as broad an audience as possible and that won't happen if the video is boring. In real life the incoming AC would have been spotted a long way off, in real life there would be Naval assets and maybe ISTAR assets, but then that would be a very boring video.

[@rebelliousfew]

⁠@@TBH-nu2soYou do understand the differences in doctrine and how both countries’s military forces are vastly different from one other. And this has nothing to do with Russia’s capabilities, as there’s no possible way to hide an entire regiment of Tu-95’s traveling across the Pacific to attack Guam. No matter what coalition this is, this wouldn’t be possible anyways.

[@grimreapers]

Well we can certainly add Navy in for the re-run.

[@TBH-nu2so]

@@rebelliousfew I'm more just leaving it in there for people who think Russia WOULD be able to do that. There would already be a flight of Raptors up, Aegis-armed destroyers in the area would have identified the bombers a long time ago and likely intercepted most, and there would be at least a few more PATRIOTs as a backup.

[@ttpechon2535]

Hey cap, awesome vid! Thanks for putting in the time for all this. On a side note, have you seen the new mod called Olympus? Could make these wargames VERY interesting. (It allows for real time unit creation and complex control)

[@sargecharge4081]

just looked it up and this sounds amazing, I hope he sees this and considers it

[@turgeon1235]

What if arma zeusing and DCS had a baby

[@mildmanneredthinkingman9323]

woah that sounds amazingly interesting!

[@clifbradley]

My cousin was stationed on Guam. They have over 6 Patriot batteries, plus the Redeye defense system, about 10 C-Rams and they have a system very much like Iron Dome. Same thing with Diego Garcia

[@daredemontriple6]

I think as you say at the start, were it for real the Bears would be picked up on Satellite far before they ever got close enough and smashed to bits like pinatas 1,000 miles off the coast of Guam. So to make the defence perhaps more feasible I think there's three potential scenarios that could make it a bit more balanced: 1. A flight of say 4 F-22s is conducting live-fire exercises at the time the bears are spotted by AWACS, and are then redirected. They won't be fully armed as they've been shooting drones down, but even just carrying 2 AIM260s each, they could still feasibly shoot down just over a third of the bears before they got close enough. 2. A US Navy element, say a group of Destroyers, is on exercise nearby and though unable to detect the Bears any earlier, are perfectly able to provide a 'picket' line for the airbase. 3. A brief malfunction of observation satellites is what lets the bears get close, but they're spotted at more like 450-500 miles out, giving the F22s more time to scramble and their missiles more time to hit their targets - frankly this is the worst option IMO as it's just a case of tweaking distances and timings such that a select number of F22s engage a select number of TU95s before they launch. And if that is all you're going to do, why not simply remove a few F22s and corresponding TU95s from the scenario altogether?

[@aztec0112]

This would have been the opening act of a war. Large scale bomber formations 1000 miles out to sea, in INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE, while provocative, even if deliberately so, is not illegal. It bears watching for sure, and there would be high level communications, warnings and threats but until an ADIZ or boundary is busted, or a missile falls out of the belly, it could just be formation practice.

[@daredemontriple6]

@@aztec0112 True, but the scenario assumes a state of conflict anyway as no country's national airspace extends to 370 miles beyond it's borders! So regardless of communications, the only way the US could make a legal first strike here is if they left it late enough for the Bears to launch all their missiles anyway. All of which is entertaining the idea that the US wouldn't voluntarily make that first act of war should 2 entire regiments of strategic bombers come within 400 miles of an airbase and presumably fail to turn away or respond at all to radio commands. After all if it was just formation practice, why are they doing it 400 miles East of Guam, which is to say the wrong side of the island from Russia *and* a long way away too!

[@olooorrrddd8097]

born and raised on guam, its awesome seeing this vid. man dcs is insanely detailed

[@TR4Ajim]

With all these scenarios with mass cruise missile and drone attacks, would it be worthwhile to look at the barrage balloon concept again as a last line of defense to protect airfields or other installations? Imagine a group of blimps that could be computer controlled to the location/altitude of an attack. Each blimp would have weighted Kevlar “tendrils” hanging down with saw-tooth ridges. Sort of an aerial Portuguese-Man-O-War!👍

[@HighRiskV]

That's the most impractical idea I've ever heard

[@TR4Ajim]

@@HighRiskV well, yeah! But kind of cool in a steam punk sort of way. However as happened in the gulf recently, using million dollar missiles to knock down a $100,000 drones is pretty impractical too.

[@unclebuck4er467]

Good video, remember Guam has a TPY 2 (RADAR) EWR part of THAAD system as of 2023. That would give high resolution scans out to 2500 nmi. The bear would be seen.

[@chrisdudley1784]

Maybe if the AWACS was closer to the threat vector with an escort, the Raptors could get up sooner.

[@iheartdiscgolf]

Happy New Year GR. I hope everyone had a great New Year's celebration.

[@subjectc7505]

The noise of the Tu-95 alone can defeat Guam 😹

[@navy1lord1]

I love how it says what it would cost the Tax Payers...

[@colerape]

I heard stories that the Meteors in WWII would tip V-1s over and cause them to crash!

[@tomwakeham1445]

Happy New Year! Thoroughly enjoyed your content last year, Hope you all had a great Christmas & New Year!

[@corvanphoenix]

I'll never get why the US doesn't have hardened hangars all over Anderson. It's just all open field, after all this time despite how critical it has always been.

[@buck068]

Realistically, these ALCMs would have been launched from within Russian airspace to attack Guam, so I understand that you want to make the video interesting and have the Bears involved in the fight. For your scenario, any OOA involving Bear H (especially 22 of them!) would have had intel cueing, so there is no excuse for not having intercepted them prior to launching their ALCMs. A massive 22-ship of Bear Hs would have seen at least the whole squadron of 18-21 F-22s waiting at various CAPs and not on ground alert. Finally, not putting enough AAMs on station to address the possible amount of incoming ALCMs is a huge fail.

[@HoloRC]

@6:32 that soundproofing is absolutely genius level. reminds me of the old coal mining days where they used planks of wood that would be carefully positioned in that exact same way - to keep the walls from falling in on them. props mate, that looks like a solid man-cave you got there!

[@jobori78]

Maybe "repurpose" the F-22s to hunt down missiles after they took out the bears? with their super cruise they would have have been back faster, reloaded, and got back to hunt down the incoming cruise missiles, their superior radar range also meant they could fire at them as soon as they were at altitude

[@emmata98]

33:45 maybe have some destroyers nearby? Then you also could have an excuse to spot the bears also a bit earlier

[@flatcapfiddle]

If V1s and Gloster Meteors where modeled in game it would be amazing to see a ww2 version of this

[@blademaster2390]

Well if they arent in the game, someone probably made a mod of them

[@danwilberding7057]

I appreciate that it’s tough to time out the intercept for maximum action. Send the Raptors up too early and they club the bears before they get a shot off, and the humans are superfluous, fractionally too late and you get this. Still - nice flying gr!

[@xendraven]

I'm brand new here, but I'm hooked, and it also sounds like I'm listening to Dom Jolly, nostalgic Trigger Happy TV vibes. Cheers!

[@matt65535]

> Giant piece of wood where my throttle is I mean, I knew you liked simulations, but is getting the Bear added THAT exciting?

[@Emsdork]

Love the HLC crossover "I'd intercept me"

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

I think you guys should reach out to @TheHabitualLineCrosser about possibly setting up a more accurate missile defense. (It’s his actual job currently in the Army)

[@LOtarie]

God that would be the Ultimate universe cross over xD

[@mantori762]

There would probably also be a carrier group close by, if it really would happened.. with atleast 1 tico..and one Tico can theroreticaly have 122 sm3.. that would thin the heard massivly And since one side realisticy only have about 40% ability to hit anything.. they just had a misfire and basically destroyed one of their own villages.

[@sillybirdy1994]

The Russians would never launch a surprise attack like this with that much firepower nearby. I think this is why the video is so effective. It shows how they can hit us if we have our pants down.

[@piuswanyaga8361]

Misfire out of how many? Remember the UFO incident last year, the F22 had to fire the second time after the first air to air missile shot missed.😂😂😂

[@mayorwest3265]

​@@piuswanyaga8361air to air missiles aren't designed to shoot down balloons

[@ricbrown1114]

As you pointed out, the bears would have been detected by satellite LONG before they would have been in a position to fire their cruise missiles, So, I would argue that this simulation is vastly unrealistic especially since the bears came in from the east vs the west.

[@dereksteneman9657]

Prior F15C & F22 pilot here: for realism 1. Increase to 3 x patriot batteries on Guam 2. Give patriot a 40-60nm MEZ= all Air to Air/Air breathing platforms (F22, F16 etc) cannot enter MEZ when threats are inside 40-60nm(pick an actual MEZ) 3. Air to Air DEZ starts 10 NM in front of Patriot DEZ extending to 100 nm = MLL (commit when red crosses this line 4. Tactics: human pilots fly in 4 ships line abreast 5-10NM spacing … F22 15-25nm spacing. 5. With red range picture “pump” a 2 ship cold… hit element coordinate and target leading edge. Launch and leave when active. Cold element turn hot after cold for 1 min. Verify F-pole. Continue this until out of 120s. 6. Heaters & Gun only… do a high to low intercept 1-2nm behind lead cruise missile… heat and guns. DO NOT cross into patriot DEZ!! Give them a clear picture. 7. Gun: 2-3” trigger squeeze… other wise in real life you’ll jam the gun. 8. Activate SeaWiz. Great job y’all love watching these!!

[@jamison884]

This was a fun video regardless of results, thanks. The largest RU missile and combined drone attack in two years of war (over at least an hour or two) was 158. However, this was via combined arms (air and ground launched), fired from RU borders, and against a target they share a border with so range and logistic capabilities were relatively simple. Even then, UA shot down most of the targets across multiple major cities. 12/29/2023 attack: - 36 Shahed-136/131 kamikaze UAVs; - 90 Kh-101/Kh-555/Kh-55 air-to-ground cruise missiles; - 8 Kh-22/Kh-32 cruise missiles; - 14 S-300/S-400/Iskander-M ballistic missiles; - 5 Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aerial ballistic missiles; - 4 Kh-31P anti-radar missiles; - 1 Kh-59 missile. 1/02/2024 attack: - 10 out of 10 Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles; - 59 out of 70 Kh-101/Kh-555/Kh-55 cruise missiles; - 3 out of 3 Kalibr cruise missiles.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Super J

[@TheConleyman]

Would imagine with Guam being a pretty large Naval base it would also have a fairly decently naval contingent defending it, whether that would effect the outcome enough to turn this into a win.. depends on your definition of winning in this scenario

[@michaelrowland4021]

Good video Cap, I know you know they would be air patrol out flying and navy ships passing near by from time-to-time. The Navy would have a E-2C and a couple of patrol up and flying around the area. The E-2C can track 2,000 targets simultaneously while also detecting 20,000 targets to a range greater than 400 mi (640 km). If the E-3C pick them up on the radar call it in it would give the Air Force the time they need to get up and flying to meet them.

[@duanemckinley9353]

Great job Cap! I think the scenario is broadly reflective of the capabilities of low observable cruise missiles when used in bulk, but it is a shame though that you can't get the AI aircraft to intercept the cruise missiles.

[@aztec0112]

THAT "glitch" in DCS is the single biggest factor as to why Blue had no chance.

[@TwixSvK]

@@aztec0112 Well thats how a Ukrainian Mig-29 crashed when it was shooting down cruise missiles with guns and the debris hit the aricraft.

[@clangerbasher]

The Bears make a lovely noise.

[@robbergerson4915]

Great new years GR video! Say Cap, wouldn't there be a US carrier or battle fleet roaming about Guam these days? Couple arliegh burkies and a fist full of murder load hornets with angry missle truck drivers could even this playground in a minute.

[@justme7347]

Your just about to get home as the Cruz missiles get to your airfield

[@Robert-pl1gd]

Wishing GR all the best in the new year. Keep putting out the videos. Love them all. Cap is that a record player behind your monitors.. Haven't seen one of those since I got rid of my KENWOOD Audio tower. (Record Player, 6 disc CD changer, Amplifier, and get this dual cassette tape player)

[@DavidWilliams-ig5ec]

The F-22s were within seconds of taking down the Bears before they were able to launch. Just two Raptors patrolling 100 miles out from Guam could take down 8 of the 22, making the defense against the rest possible. Also, as noted, 22 Bears would have been noticed long before what you set up in the sim.

[@santiagotorrezsegarra7790]

not to mention if they didnt bug the scramble

[@dougmuti3850]

I feel like in a situation like this, you're just gonna need some Navy for added defense. It would be interesting to see how many cruisers would be needed to fully stop this assault.

[@elrekplaysgames4701]

well it gives the USACE some clean up work

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Guam has SHORAD units specifically designed to shoot down low altitude threats like cruise missiles. Also, the TU-95's wouldve been spotted as soon as they took off by U.S. surveillance, so you can safely assume theyd divert the nearest Arleigh Burke to Guam to assist in possible defense. And yes, Guam has at least 3 Patriot batteries scattered around it. Its damn near impenetrable via missile or drone strike.

[@Oskanwhitchfather]

8:30 because the F-22 beast the F-16 hands down. Well, not in a fair dogfight. The F-16's turning radius and better weight to thrust ratio makes it a better dogfighter. The F22 is a 5th Generation Stealth Aircraft. The F-16 is a Ground Support Aircraft, which is also technically a rocket. That's why. "You will let me pass, because you see me. Otherwise, I will make sure you never see me again"

[@SeanP7195]

“What’s a matter Colonel Sanders? Chicken?”

[@paulcadden4967]

And you had it easy too. Where were the bomber escorts? And why wouldn't the bears just keep flying closer to make you shooting them down easier

[@grimreapers]

Bears don't fly with escorts on long missions.

[@t.r.4496]

Can you use your wing to knock them off course or does it do too much damage to the aircraft? I also would like to see a do over on this, I think the US would have a few assets in the air on patrol. If they was able to knock a few down before they got to the launch distance to see if the other Bears would turn around.

[@aztec0112]

Apra Harbor houses a naval base. It would not be unreasonable for a DDG or two to be moored there.

[@mrlodwick]

Thank you Capt! and crew.

[@AndresM2984]

Gotta admit, if simba werent flying, it would feel weird, he really es peeps champ Lol!!! GO SIMBA!!! 😂😂😂, nice war game CAP!! Ty for entertaining us!

[@zotfotpiq]

i love watching you guys take a beating as much as getting a win. i want my son to watch so he can learn about radio discipline and how to take a loss without getting down and blaming the team. you guys always step up and call yourselves out for your own mistakes. take responsibility. gaming needs more of that kind of positivity. well done.

[@gerardpullen9449]

I absolutely love these kinds of videos that yall do. One thing has been bugging me though. Even in the 80's it wasn't hard for the intel guys to figure out that a regiment of Bears was scrambling for a raid and could guestimate what target the raid was going for and warn any assets that are in the strike range of the raid. I cant speak for the airforce, but in the 80s a csg would get all of their 14s in the air and have ready to engage way prior to detection. The f18s had buddy tanks and would keep the 14s topped off, so that as soon as the raid was detected the cats would turn and burn for intercept. I think it would be safe to assume that intel capacities have increased exponetially since then so I would love to see some of the more popular videos involving american CSGs where all the birds all already airborn and at altitude when the scenario starts. For roleplay purposes you could reduce their gas a bit to simulate loitering and waiting for detection of the raid

[@drewswitzer7574]

One major flaw with this scenario, Guam would have heard that many Bears coming hours before they arrived, and if they didn't the submariners would have picked them out on sonar and let the fly boys know.😅

[@Zoddom]

Wouldnt the Patriots see the missiles earlier if at least the radars would be closer to the shore? I believe the cliffs might block the radar coverage.

[@grimreapers]

That's a great point, I never even thought about that.

[@tanksoldier]

From the view you showed of the BDA, it looks like the taxiways and ramps are still intact, and these can be used as an emergency runway. The base isn't totally inop. Also, hangars and bunkers are intact. The base isn't out of action.

[@jonfillion3732]

I'd intercept me.

[@DonaldBarringer-i5c]

Species confirmed Captain, definitely human.

[@delmccormack7001]

When you remix this scenario try with a squadron of F22's in a hold pattern over the launching f15's

[@terencyowens9491]

This... But with more humans in the mix. A flight of airborne fighters and bombers in support, and no buggy AI.

[@sonar357]

In reality, US SIGINT would've tripped and provided early warning of the raid. Marshalling that many aircraft, especially bombers, will require some kind of radio/comms chatter, etc. So, the Raptors would've intercepted them much farther out.

[@MrVanderchevy18]

So happy HLC is going to do content full time!

[@MrSman67]

I would have an AWACS with a forward screen of maybe 4 to 8 raptors flying. This would probably thin out the Bears before they get to the firing range.

[@AuraKnightTheLucario]

perhaps some nearby naval support , and would putting the cram into the same unit in the mission editor as patriot's radar let them share data ?

[@intlon4299]

Could you make a video with all your custom missile files? I want to play the Eurofighterm but do not enjoy how much the Meteor overperforms. You explained in one of your videos with the plane that you reduced its stats for realism, could you explain that?

[@ttpechon2535]

GR has their own versions of most mods, which I don't think they've released to the public. They tend to gloss over how much of what they've changed too. If you want to change it yourself, go to the mod folder, then look for a folder in that called weapons, then loadouts folder, and there should be several lua files in there, these are the files for the custom weapons, you can edit their stats there. It is rather complex though, and there's zero documentation so good luck.

[@intlon4299]

@@ttpechon2535 Exactly, I am asking for them to release their own versions or explain the changes they made and how they did it.

[@rebelliousfew]

Yeah, and I believe it was either a Russian or Chinese aircraft. I’ve noticed they tend to buff down the stats of Russian/Chinese aircraft and weaponry and call it “realism” when those stats were all originally modeled to public data. I think they insert their own bias into them, even though they claim to only use data that is publicly available. They really should address all changes they make to these mods and explain in detail why they do it for better transparency. Maybe there’s something I’m missing, but I’ve taken a look at all the Russian/Chinese mods they have listed, and most, if not all, operate exactly to how public data states they should act. So, I’m not sure what their reasoning is for buffing them.

[@ttpechon2535]

@@rebelliousfew Main comment is literally talking about how they made the Meteor worse. I'm pretty sure most the mods they've changed have been made worse by them, I don't think there's any bias. They changed them according to there own research, and then tend to go the safe side, I remember Cap talking about the changes they made to the F-35 and how they went with the bigger RCS estimates. All the battles seem pretty fair.

[@intlon4299]

@@rebelliousfew I just want an accurate meteor that doesnt travel at mach 6 and have 230nm range

[@boeing-lt4el]

You'd also likely have Burkes/Ticos defending Guam

[@jdickson1234]

That altitude looks like space!

[@jdickson1234]

"Don't shoot Simba"! lol

[@kevinmccarley7121]

Very fun! Great visuals as the 22s merged with the Bears, I was hoping to see the tail gunners open up on a Raptor! I don't mind you guys not winning sometimes, if you never failed a mission it would get too predictable!! Keep up the great work in '24!!

[@TheGersh18]

I’d say add the Iron Dome system. The US uses it as part of its layered defense. It would work well against small, close in targets.

[@SecularFelinist]

Maybe park an Arleigh Burke somewhere? There is a naval base at Guam. The Burke's missiles were very effective in the attack on the base in California.

[@joegoveia6499]

Cap, you're the OG peoples champ. Simba is like the progressive confused peoples champ.

[@grimreapers]

lol love it!

[@jmaldo68]

That's a win for Blue...

[@kevinb4077]

Probably should have simulated a CAP flight up. The numbers would change a lot if you can down 4-8 of the Bears before they get the missiles out.

[@mildmanneredthinkingman9323]

What about a missile truck spec F-15 or F-15EX? I'd imagine Guam being such a strategic place for the US would have more defenses and armaments.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Scenarios like this one definitely make the case for maximum weight of missiles from a single launched interceptor, though more ground based batteries (data linked to planes that can actually see the threat) would probably be a better solution.

[@raincitysumo]

If the bombers are projected to launch entire payload of cruise missiles before being intercepted, why not save Raptor missiles to target the cruise missiles? Once the bombers have dropped their load they no longer pose a threat.

[@aztec0112]

Thank you!

[@varjen018]

I thought the giant piece of wood was an attempt of iunuendo there until i saw the picture.

[@un5een83]

The moment you wish you had a 106 and a genie :-D

[@cyronader]

No F-15s at Guam? Not sure F-16s would be 1st choice to send out to intercept cruise missiles.

[@stephenallen4635]

Might learn a thing or two from the tempest v1 interceptors, just give them a handshake

[@aztec0112]

If the mission was to defend Guam, how does targeting the bombers, all of which have already loosed their weapons support the immediate mission goals? Knowing the bombers would be empty by the time y'all got in range, why not hold the Raptors back, let the bombers go, and use all air assets to engage missiles. Also the USN would reasonably have a guided-missile ship in Apra Harbor.

[@mfreed40k]

You prevent the Russians from doing that or any strike again. That represents a lot of pilots and equipment that they will not be able to replace.

[@ГеоргийМурзич]

@@mfreed40k to be fare, those missiles would've been launched from like 4000km away

[@FNR]

Because real-world, depriving Russia of two regiments of Bears is *way* more impactful than preventing missiles from hitting runways. There appears to be at least one SeaBee (construction engineer) battalion organic to the Guam garrison and there is at least a dozen commercial concrete suppliers near the base - Smithbridge Guam has 30 trucks alone. Repairs to the damage would be limited mostly by the concrete curing time, not by equipment/manpower to shove the wreckage out, fill and compact aggregate, and resurface. They could probably get at least one runway back to full operation in less than 48 hours. But those Bears are literally irreplaceable. Russia only has ~40 operational. Losing half is a crippling loss. Not to mention the loss of ~170 equally irreplaceable missiles for no real effect. The Russian general that ordered this strike would find himself defenestrated before the end of the week. The scenario as devised is a good demonstration of how missile saturation works, but the target selected is too low value - the juice ain't worth the squeeze. For this strike to be viable - knowing that the Bears are on a suicide mission - the target needs to be much higher value. Like a carrier? ...or the missiles must be nuclear, and spread out over the island, such that the effect is to "sink" Guam...

[@aztec0112]

​@@mfreed40kThey failed to protect the base. Mission failed, Guam neutralized. Doesn't matter how many bombers destroyed if you have no base to return to.

[@aztec0112]

​​@@FNRGreat analysis, but a lot of what ifs remain. IIRC Russians, during the Cold War, anticipated huge, if not catastrophic, losses during the opening phase of a war. It's also not just the runways that would be targets, but also POL, C2, hangars and the like. With PGUA knocked out, in this scenario, Guam would be ripe for follow up attacks and/or air/sea landings etc. It would also make sense to attack Apra Harbor and send a few warheads to Agana and Won Pat. I'm not really a fan of the single direction, no feint, aerial frontal assaults. The mission here, as designed, pretty much guaranteed failure. The only choice was whether or not to attack the bombers or the missiles. Red was always going to loose the missiles. That's why, given the mission parameters, attacking the bombers would guarantee failure. Loved your analysis of the recovery effort though 👍👍