Could anglos wary of separatism vote for the PQ? | The Corner Booth

Aaron Rand, Bill Brownstein and Leslie Chesterman sit down with Parti Québécois Leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon on The Corner Booth

[@TheNmecod]

As an anglo sovereignist, it feels good to see such a strong PQ leader who is willing to include the anglo community in the independence debate once again. I wouldn’t say my vote is already secured for 2026, but if PSPP continues offering clear, well thought out and honest leadership as head of the PQ, he’ll make a great premier.

[@AlainPare]

Impressive comment, wow, honestly.

[@loicklaroche6816]

Impressive comment

[@AlainPare]

@@DrMarkyMark he's been saying that since 2020, and the ROC calling us racists , changing your minds now.

[@Versat1l]

We need to leave Canada

[@Imsemble]

... and a great president ;)

[@loicklaroche6816]

Thanks to all anglophone who support Québec independance⚜️

[@charlesward9486]

The sooner you leave the better!

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

​@@charlesward9486Thank you Tell your friends

[@davidnunes1207]

I don't 🤣 do not be fooled by wolves in sheep clothing. 🐑

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

@@davidnunes1207 , Who is the Wolf between Anglos and Francophones, asking is answering, think Deeper please.

[@davidnunes1207]

@@Sebastienpoliquin I think very deep ,deeper than the sewers of the land .

[@user-xw6wt5vg7r]

Si Monsieur Plamondon réussit à convaincre les anglophones de voter pour le Parti Québecois, cela révèle la crédibilité de son plan. Quant à la personnalité de Paul St-Pierre Plamondon, elle révèle sa sincérité et son intégrité. Le chemin s'ouvre lorsqu'une personne est vrai et ne se contredit pas à la première occasion.

[@carolinebussieres2978]

Very interesting conversation and respect was there! 👌🥰 M.P.St-PP is very lucide about this situation and I will vote for him for the next election. I am so proud of him. I am 77 ans, I am living alone, and my son is agree with me and all my family 🤞💙💙💙

[@smashmusique]

Do you support the independance of Québec? what about Ukraine?

[@altela1597]

@@smashmusique Do you support the independance of Scotland?

[@smashmusique]

@@altela1597 yes I do!

[@bauch69]

I always said, the day we will see a PQ leader who is able to fluently talk in english to all the english speaking Quebecers we might see these english Quebecers finaly understand the benefit of Québec being a country. PSPP is probably the best politician of our era in Québec, no doubt about that. He's not playing the same old political game that most politician anywhere in Canada have been playing for the past 400 years. He have a vision, he know's what he's doing and he's honest and well spoken. We can't win a referendum without having everyone educated in their mother tongue, not only in French. He knows that.

[@acharat6]

Actually, René Lévesque spent months touring English Canadian colleges in the late 70s trying to explain the Quebec Independence movement to young Canadians. His English was impeccable due to the fact that he was covering WW2 news for an American newspaper in his youth. You can still watch some of his conferences on KZbin. Actually more and more people are starting to view PSPP his spiritual successor (although those are big shoes to fill).

[@aurelieb.6552]

René Lévesque was born in Campbellton (NBrunswick) and he grew up in New Carlisle on the Gaspé peninsula, English was commonly spoken in his neck of the woods. He was bilingual as a kid. He later lived in England for several years and served as a liaison officer and war correspondent for the U.S. Army during WW2. A five minute research "René Lévesque English interview, English college debate" on KZbin would help you.

[@DonaldMains]

While PSPP's English is near native fluency, Levesque and Parizeau spoke better English than PSPP. it didn't help them much did it.

[@luciedebellefeuille7537]

@@acharat6 : René Lévesque et Jacque Parizeau qui avait un doctorat en science économique de l'université de Cambridge Angleterre parlaient tous deux un excellent anglais et a souvent rencontré les représentants d ela minorité anglaise , sont allés dans leurs médias avec un faible résultat. Mais les temps ont changé et peut-être, souhaitons le , ils deviennent plus ouverts à l'idée de l'indépendance du Québec.

[@altela1597]

​@@luciedebellefeuille7537PSPP also studied in English as he holds a Bachelor's degree in Civil and Common Law from McGill University (2001), a Master's degree in Business Administration from the University of Oxford, United Kingdom (2006 ) and a certificate in international law from Lund. University of Sweden (2001), he also speaks Swedish and there is a video on KZbin of him being interviewed in Swedish.

[@davidmartin7931]

Je suis agréablement surpris du ton de cet entretien. Je m'attendais à un autre «Diner de cons» à trois contre un, mais ce ne fut pas le cas. Les Anglophones de bonne foi qui apprécient vivre dans un environnement culturel unique en Amérique du Nord seront toujours les bienvenus pour nous aider à réaliser l'indépendance du Québec. Il y aura aussi une place pour eux. Les Québécois francophones sont (à juste titre) inquiets pour l'avenir de leur langue et de leur culture mais ils ne sont pas pour autant des fanatiques.

[@dinosaursr]

Bien dit.

[@albertp9318]

Je me souviens

[@guyl9456]

Pas des fanatiques? Tous peuvent se faire berçer par des marchands de rêves.

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

​@@guyl9456comme toi le fédéraleux

[@bobcd48]

BS! 💩💩💩

[@realchayer8708]

Monsieur Plamondon j’ai entièrement regardé votre interview avec eux et je vous trouve vraiment réaliste en tout point. J’espère pouvoir vous rencontrer un jour et soyez assuré de mon entier soutien. Je vous dis sincèrement que je suis revenu au Parti Québécois.

[@guyl9456]

Il a une belle personnalité hein c'est important une belle personnalité pour diriger un pays ou une province c'est selon.

[@caverneroy]

This man, clearly, is talking to the intelligence of the peoples. He do not try to speak with very short sentences and punch line. This is exactly what we need these day. I think someone can by for or against separation, everyone should agree he is very honest and speak clearly with intelligence and nuances.

[@guyl9456]

No he is delusional sure a nice person but completely totally UNFIT to be Premier. I loathe the guy no he is not nice yes he will take Quebec down the gutter.

[@loicklaroche6816]

@@guyl9456😂

[@acharat6]

@@guyl9456 Explain why you think he's delusional, unfit to be premier and would drive Quebec into the gutter. Because right now it sounds like you hate him because he screwed your mom when you were younger or something.

[@bibouley2459]

@@guyl9456what’s you’re arguments

[@bibouley2459]

@@guyl9456speaking is a thing but u have to explain why u think of that and pls do some research on PSPP before doing so.

[@speakfluently]

I'm blown away by Paul St-Pierre. He seems very intelligent, articulate and has some good ideas.

[@AlexisBastien-vw3in]

I am for equality. I think each nation should be able to make its own decision. Quebec should be a country like Canada is. 🙂

[@MegaRepulse]

Absolutely not

[@Perspectivepolitique]

Exactly!

[@loicklaroche6816]

Thank you

[@alainouellet7794]

they voted twice no, you dont respect the results.

[@tigui8314]

​@@MegaRepulse Ande wy note?

[@darkzq]

Last time there was a referendum… the yes vote started at around 32% then got to almost 50. Numbers move.

[@DonaldMains]

That was almost 30 years ago.

[@altela1597]

The federal government stole the 1995 referendum and it has been proven.

[@guillaumegeorgeault3970]

​@@DonaldMainsbut numbers move...

[@sebastiengaudette-gm6qo]

I love PSPP. Is a kind of 2024 René Lévesque. He want to make sovereignty for all Quebecers: Anglos Francos Allo s and I’m agree with him ❤️

[@yiraqcic1348]

A lot of immigrants admire him too! I'm one of them actually hehe!

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

You make us laugh Buffy Ste Marie, be real one day. ​@NotOneMoreInch

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

@NotOneMoreInch we love Kabylie, but not anti Québécois like you

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

@@NotOneMoreInch no , you are the one that hates QUÉBÉCOIS we don't hate we love, protecting our culture and language is hating for you, WOW,think twice Buffy.

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

@@NotOneMoreInch you got IT all wrong again, how dare you talk badly about France, you realy are the most hating person on yu tube.

[@user-ng3sw9gu6x]

Quelle belle entrevue! Bravo pour l'écoute et le respect de part et d'autre. Nous avons bien des liens à tisser, je suis confiante qu'on va y arriver!

[@luciedebellefeuille7537]

J'espère.

[@NOVAsteamed]

I only wish that my fellow anglo community would understand that they have a lot to win from QC's independence. It would settle all the big ambiguous questions of identites and make living together much more peaceful and prosperous.

[@davidpatry4195]

oui, monsieur.

[@nhlsens3880]

it would also crush your individual rights as a human being and force a colonial power/language on you. You would be treated as a second class citizen.

[@fs400ion]

​@@nhlsens3880Is that supposed to be a description of what Canada was and still is for French Canadians?

[@nhlsens3880]

@@fs400ion noone forces anyone to do anything in canada. canada is no longer like the canada of the 1960s. no need to live in the past

[@fs400ion]

@@nhlsens3880 okay then why are you talking about colonial powers forcing a language?

[@rogerMoquin]

This is one of the very few moments where respectful debate and questions are answered between the 2 great solitudes. I am normaly very critical of theGazette because of wierd anti-french sentiment and cultural biais but this here was well done. Maybe pspp can shorten the 2 solitude gap

[@ml242]

this was a conversation with him answering questions, not a debate at all.

[@rogerMoquin]

@@ml242 deconstructivism… is that what you bring to the conversation on these important topics ? This is an interview but Questions are about opinions, views, philosophies. Many times in this video we already understand the position of the hosts and pspp arguments his position even if they go against what the question carries. everything is a debate, questions are debates if they are followed by comebacks and further questions. You are questioning the form but do you have anything to say about the content ? I know what debates are, this is clearly not a true debate, but now that we know this, whats your point beside deconstructing ?

[@parsoumash]

The PQ's rise in polls is squarely due to this man Paul st. Pierre Plamondon. He's very direct, to the point, and honest about his intentions. As a Canadian in Ontario, I respect that..Even though I may not agree with him politically.

[@Desbiensjoel]

✌️✌️

[@patricelajoie2383]

He's a really good speaker 🫡

[@guyl9456]

@@patricelajoie2383 Yep that's all he can do: speak

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

​@@guyl9456on your side ,all you do is bashing , osti de colon.

[@DonaldMains]

Jagmeet Singh of the federal NDP is also very articulate, and like PSPP is a man who preaches policies that have already failed. No thanks to politicians who speak well but get behind ideologies that won't work.

[@mathieug6136]

Great guy! He was quite unknown when he took over a failing party that people thought might disappear few years back, but I think people just now realized how good of a communicator and leader he can be. Imagine how horrible this podcast would have been with Pauline Marois haha.

[@aliqobadian-kalhor9485]

Funny

[@sourandbitter3062]

I doubt that the PQ would have disappeared. Until there are french speaking Québécois and until independence is made, PQ will continue to exist. This was bound to happen and he made it happen.

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

Pauline Marois a échappée à une tentative de meurtre au nom de son pays , un peu de respect serait de mise.

[@clauderanger375]

Pauline Marois's English is basic. She would have performed very well in French.

[@altela1597]

@@sourandbitter3062 And what about other premier of Canada and she was able to send the message!

[@yannpezeron1619]

Chers Québécois, vous avez de la chance d’avoir un tel homme politique. Un grand Monsieur ! D’autres ailleurs, professionnels de la politique, feraient bien de s’en inspirer (en France, d’où je vous écris, ou aux États Unis, in Rest of Canada, etc)

[@tammymonette8371]

Ils ont dit meme chose pour CAQ

[@lucreziaborgia1553]

Anglo Québécois are Québécois too, if they wanted to be Ontarians they'd move They're with us and it is to EVERYONE'S benefit to achieve independence!

[@davidnunes1207]

I am not a sovereignist, I am canadian, but this pspp seems quite honest and a unifier for quebecers.

[@guyl9456]

I personaly hate him and so do many of my friends so nope he is no unifer.

[@davidnunes1207]

@guyl9456 ok I understand 👍

[@christinedumas6193]

Il est tout simplement un habile manipulateur

[@christinedumas6193]

​@@guyl9456i hate him to, he is such a good manipulator, this guy wouldl be the worst thing for Quebec and i use to be a separatiste

[@davidnunes1207]

@@christinedumas6193 Oui ,vous avez raison ,je croit qu'il est un bon parleur ,mais serat IL un bon faiseur????

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

Long LiveThe FREE QUÉBEC

[@Perspectivepolitique]

I like that the new independance mouvement is about equality. I realy love that all Quebecers, no mather the langage we speak are wath differentiates us on a personal basis, we are all seen as full-fledged Quebecois. It realy differentiates with the CAQ.

[@hugost-onge1837]

Vive la République du Québec!

[@guyl9456]

@@hugost-onge1837

[@bobcd48]

🤮

[@nicolasg.514]

@@bobcd48 On voit que tu as beaucoup d'arguments comme d'habitude.

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

​@@bobcd48toujours aussi digestif le zinzin

[@samsousayt]

This was an excellent episode. Great questions, great answers and a good sense of open mindedness and respect.

[@louamorin4246]

A well spoken intelligent leader of the PQ and likeable. A very dangerous man for Canada which is led by a fool.

[@christinedumas6193]

He is very dangerous, next élection english people need to vote for Poilièvre at the fédéral and Eric Duhaime at the provincial. Those leftis like Trudeau and this little snake are destroying our country

[@pierreveronneau1559]

Fantastique ce jeune homme brillant intelligent, il aura mon vote.

[@themisterolichip]

Le mien aussi! ⚜

[@DonaldMains]

Le mien NON!

[@altela1597]

@@DonaldMains Tu as peur de quoi?

[@DonaldMains]

@@altela1597 I'm afraid that the PQ will just keep doing really stupid things like they have done for the last 50 years if there are no checks and balances. I want a Quebec where everyone, including Anglos and Allos, have the same rights. That's fair isn't it?

[@altela1597]

@@DonaldMains Anglos and Allos have always had the same rights as all Quebecers and much more rights than French people living outside Quebec in Canada and I have been speaking since at least 1970 and before 1970 Quebecers and French Canadians were clearly less privileged than the Anglo-Quebecers and English-Canadian, because of the politics of Ottawa and the big English bosses, to whom we are going to tell each other the real things was downright RACISM. For example in Quebec the Anglos have 3 universities, the youngest of which is at least 50 years old and around twenty hospitals for 660,000 Anglos, paid by big companies, which at the time paid Quebecers more than the minimum wage and to which management positions were reserved MAJORITY for the English, which meant that Quebecers were very poor and that Quebec children had the world record for infant mortality. And the governments of Quebec have always ensured that Anglo-Quebecers maintain their institutions. And in Ontario the 600,000 Franco-Ontarians have only one hospital that the Ontario government strongly wanted to close "the Monfort hospital" and they have just had their first Francophone university during the Coronavirus pandemic, but located in Toronto which 2023 had only 230 students, instead of building the university where the Franco-Ontarians are in Ottawa or Sudbury and thus having a university with more Francophones, but no they built the first Francophone university in Toronto where there are very few of Franco-Ontarian. But thanks to the Parti Québécois today there are more businesses that belong to Franco-Québécois and Quebec is much richer than before the Parti Québécois took power for the first time and this is not stupid.

[@lucnormandin2707]

Excellente discussion!!

[@wordlytaco1306]

Thank you for this civilized podcadt

[@patricelajoie2383]

Futur president of the "La première République du Québec libre"🫡

[@robertcote5132]

Vive le Québec libre ❤

[@denisgagnon9284]

Thanks to many English people to support us for I hope our nice Quebec will become a great country!

[@sylvainberube9773]

Vive l indépendance du Québec avec nos anglophones et allophones.

[@OdinWannaBe]

Good podcast, There is a reason I'm voting PQ and I'm not even a separatist to the bones.

[@Versat1l]

Social-democracy isn't dead

[@pratko-eh5ee]

The PLQ and CAQ have done and are doing everything they can to kill it.

[@dinosaursr]

Very important points brought up at 29:10 regarding the effect of fear and a lack of objective policy analysis. Fear is a weapon that should be taken into account when determining ‘who benefits’.

[@GJeanRobert1]

Je suis parfaitement d'accord avec toi, toutes politiques doivent être développées après une analyse profonde des faits observables.

[@martingilbert5639]

Bravo PSPP!! 👍

[@christiansniper2]

Great interview

[@Jeremy101Jeremiah]

Do more long formats please. Also do a bit about the state of rent in the city , i just have no words for it . ty

[@acirka]

Thank you for that debate!

[@chuckleeboy]

French and English Quebecois are together a people. English quebecois are different from Canadians. Thanks to be with us. Merci a tous les Québécois Francois ou anglais d'être tous uni.

[@rboisvert2175]

I voted for separation in 1980 and moved to Nova Scotia

[@ericraymond3652]

I really like this interview. It's like finally building a bridge between anglo & french. Yeah, I'm a guy who live outside Montreal, so I never understanded this conflict, because for me, english and french are all quebecer in the end. We can only make thing better when we are all working together toward a commun goal: making Quebec the better it can be. All others things is just bulls*** making noise to distract us from the real thing we should care about, but that's just my point of view. I love people not only based on their language, but on who they are inside and the values they fight for. For independance, I have to say that for many few years, I'm against it. (even if I voted yes in 95) But since PSPP, this guy is so intelligent, open, rational,... well, I'm becoming a believer again, which I thought it will never be possible again. After year of being desesparate with all of the politics, being cynical of this world, he is making me interested again and giving me hope that we can change our world with leader like him. "Help me PSPP, you're my only hope!" ;)

[@bigwengz]

Not surprising that the lack of confidence in the federal government leads to rise in support for sovergnty

[@loucololosse]

I want to thank the gazette for this. Great journalism right here just like you done with the comission de la langue francaise guy.

[@necthar123go]

I’m really impressed. The historians will remenber him.

[@fren2y123]

I know one thing, this episode will be interesting!

[@QCBleuBlanc]

It was!

[@mx3552]

This man is The Chosen One

[@MrZakgil]

Great points and wise explanations and interpretations on Canada/Québec reality, without polarizing debate. PSPP will make Québec prouder, stronger and more efficient in the future.

[@craigbeare9770]

As someone from Ottawa who grew up here if you don't think Quebec is getting it's fair share from Canada and basically disportionally running every upper office of every ministry I am supportive of Quebec seperation. We can finally end the farce as a bilingual nation and leave on good terms.

[@themisterolichip]

I agree! I think Québec and Canada could be great neighbors and partners once each nation is free to pursue its own interest without interfering with the other.

[@guyl9456]

Bilinguism but you yourself never cared to learn French of any language for that matter cause we all know "they speak English everywhere"

[@kappa82]

@@themisterolichipthere won’t be any peaceful coexistence

[@nicolasg.514]

@@kappa82 Explique pourquoi ?

[@kappa82]

@@nicolasg.514 1- Canada will fight to take back there half of Quebec 2- ull have half the tax base when half the people and companies leave 3- if it’s French only, the us will close and militarize the border 4- u try and tax shipping on the st Lawrence, ull pay a heavy price So u see be realistic tu sera maitre des regions

[@tinthings314]

Very intelligent man

[@DVX_BELLORVM]

I might not agree with Plamondon on Québec sovereignty, but I'm happy to see him call out the Century Initiative openly and in public.

[@MrTimounevagabon]

Sacrament enfin a 33 ans et pour la premiere fois, je vais allé voter , enfin un politicien dit ce qu'il pense.

[@thefrenchcanadianwolfman8228]

It's time for French and English Québécois to unite for Québec's independence

[@tigui8314]

Merci mon gars une chance t'es là!

[@PlayThroughTheGame]

hope anglos, native nations and other peoples say yes,

[@jacquelinhebert4923]

good explanations I like PSPP

[@martinemjt]

the way i see it is that francophones were given a great opportunity in the 70 s and 80 s in promoting the french speaking canadian identity, but no exchanges were made or very little exchanges with british columbia french area, until a generation ago these people spoke only french . yet the french language is the tool of separation, but not necessarily the promotion of french canadian identity throughout canada!!!! thank you to being atleast bilingual and having an intelligent discourse. merci!

[@fabricetremblay9023]

Vive le Québec Pays !!!!!

[@yvespetit]

Bel entretien mais même si ces 3 anglophones sont polis, presque toutes leurs questions concernent leur sécurité linguistique et rien sur les questions d'efficacité d'un état indépendant qui est le souci principal du parti québécois. Si les francophones étaient plus soudés, il y a longtemps qu'on aurait notre pays.

[@user-zp2dk3od1k]

bravo!

[@dominicfournier9061]

communication is the key......thats it.

[@RicHSAD2]

The question of independance is a tough one. I don't trust the Federal goverment to have Quebec's best interest, so I can see value in it. However, I also don't trust Quebec's goverment to be competent enough to lead us as a country. I am not opposed to the idea, but someone has to convince me that we would all benefit beyond Quebec perhaps having a bit more money in its pocket. What exactly would change after and what's in it for us? I am not going to risk seperation simply on the premise of Quebec being a country.

[@sourandbitter3062]

Read on it, they published yet another "year 1 budget" recently discussing the economics of an independent Québec.

[@christinedumas6193]

What we need is to get along with the orther province and each province need to have more power. I am a french canadian from Québec and i want to be a canadian, i don't trust him at all

[@robin-bq1lz]

@@christinedumas6193 probablement PLQ de père en fils…🙄🙄

[@nicolasrobidoux3736]

@@christinedumas6193 he will convince you. Or at least force you to listen to what he has to offer. You don't trust him and it's your choice. But give him a chance to let you have a chance to trust the process. At the end of the day, you'll have nothing to lose.

[@christinedumas6193]

@@nicolasrobidoux3736 😂😂🤣 c'est une religion pour toi. PSPP est un crétin, il n'impressionne que les naïfs comme toi

[@acharat6]

A bold move for PSPP would be to guarantee to get rid of all English restricting laws in an independent Quebec. He actually opened the door to it. I would be in favor of that, as I consider those laws both wrong and necessary in the current political context.

[@britaddict]

Thankfully he is no Pauline Marois. Even still, look at how Brexit has held back the UK and now multiply that experience due to a loss of having influence in the management of one of the most important currencies in the world and the entire state apparatus that allows a first world country like Canada to function - plus all the trade agreements. Quebec would drown. Pierre speaks of the money gained from Canada but he does not play fair here, many billions would be lost in losing valuable federal institutional knowledge and process that is included when you benefit from economy of scale - think federal ministries and departments that Quebec does not know how to run. Being independent is expensive, and Canadians at large know this already because we all know life would be cheaper if we were part of the US.

[@britaddict]

How so? Which Scandinavian country is not part of the EEA? Quebec would not have any supernational structure to fall back on that managed their trade or continental level directives that managed the overall philosophy of existence. As for the UK, not being part of the Euro made the Brexit process less worse. Quebec would not have that either, they need a new currency if they want a say in how it is run. Very few countries in Europe have that problem today, Montenegro and Kosovo come to mind.

[@britaddict]

Then you need to follow the UK more closely. It is far more entrepreneurial than Quebec and yet can't do better than what they had in the EU. Look it up, these 'new' deals are worth like 0.1% of GDP at best. The EU single market and customs union was worth 4%. What's Switzerland got to do with it? They have the Swiss Franc, they have control over their own currency and central bank. Montenegro and Kosovo adopted the Euro with no seat at the ECB to determine their own interest rate.

[@fritoss3437]

👍🏻

[@MetalSamDub]

Prochain pm :)

[@514HiphopHead]

✊✊✊ 🙏🙏🙏

[@ellascyprus6184]

I LOVE QUEBEC STOP LOOKING DOWN ON FRENCH LAUNGUAGE PLEASE MERCI

[@Daniel-hz2gg]

I don't feel people are generally looking down on French, rather, they are looking down on bad politics from the past that divide people and create hate. There has to be a way for us to get along.

[@bbllrd1917]

​@@Daniel-hz2gg How about entering in a nation-to-nation relationship in which we see each other as legitimate and on equal footing? The division was there from the get go, and was based on one nation imposing itself to the other. Is there a division today between the US and England? Between the US and Canada? Or did it start with division, which was resolved by each gaining there independence, now allowing for constructive relationships between sovereign nations? The same could, and probably would happen between Canada and a sovereign Québec. It has nothing to do with being against Canada. It has to do with a nation's right to self-determination.

[@alexp7984]

​@@bbllrd1917 What makes you believe they are from outside Québec? This kind of answer doesn't help with the anglo community's fear of being pushed out of Québec if it became independent.

[@Daniel-hz2gg]

​@@bbllrd1917 That sounds simple enough in a 'perfect world'. But we don't live in a perfect world; we live in a world full of bad manners, prejudice, political parties and banks...

[@bbllrd1917]

@@Daniel-hz2gg No one said or implied that the world is perfect. I'm not sure I see what you conclude from the fact that we live in an imperfect world. It certainly doesn't prevent us from having ideals to aim for. The right of nations to self-govern is such an ideal, and many nations managed to attain it, gaining their political independence from the nation that used to govern them. My guess is that Québec could become a country in a more peaceful way than many of those other countries that did it through armed conflict. This process would still have its challenges and be imperfect, but that's true of any worthwhile political project...

[@shorgoth]

We are not where we were in the 90's, neither side is (I'm a native French speaker btw). Back then there was a real hostility between the two populations. Violence was common occurrence, the number of bilingual individuals was minimal. There was little real communication, there was a real divide. The world has changed, we internationalized a lot with the advent of the internet, most of us French speakers learned at least enough English to get by. The difference between Quebec and the rest of Canada now is less due to language and more based on cultural elements at large. Back during the referendums, linguistic violence was still fresh, my grandparents' generation lived in a world where french speakers couldn't get high-paying jobs and would get 1/3 of what an English speaker would get for the same one. My father in law was bitten by an attack dog sent by a racist Albertan simply because he had a french accent... we are not at that point of history anymore. Increased communication breeds empathy through the decades. English won't die in Quebec even with a theoretical independence, the international pressure to assimilate culturally is too strong. We are in an international environment where English is unavoidable at least as a second language. Putting a border won't change that fact but it would be useful to keep the aspects of Quebec's culture we find valuable. Now it is a given that protecting the capability to learn it given the independance is crucial, but I don't think there are reasons to believe it wouldn't be simply due to how much pressure there is to learn it anyway. Ultimately, I think the PQ is getting the right idea now (I have been in opposition to them when they were simply xenophobic isolationists), this is about regionalism vs centralisation, the need of a culturally distinct minority (while being a majority on our own territory) versus the needs of the rest. Ultimately Canada is structured geographically more like an Empire and at some point all empires fracture into their components.

[@PatrioteQuebecois]

I'm appalled by the description of the 90's I grew up in. I don't relate to the violence you assume there was. I don't find much difference between now and then in our minds at least and how it reflects on the position of each party. Even my grandmother who had a low paying job spoke perfect English because she had to and we are an all French speaking family. You are 110% right about defining Canada as an empire. It is one indeed and there is no place for minority languages in an empire to remain common language in the public space. Neither the Romans kept the Etruscan language, nor the Russian encourage any love for Ukrainian nor the Spanish for Catalan, the French for any other language on their national territory. This is what the independence movement is, was and will be about : protecting our culture at any cost from the empire. Maybe your definition of being anti-imperialist is "xenophobic isolationnism", just another point of view.

[@sylvainb2366]

Could the title be changed to ''wary of independence'' instead of ''way of separatism'' ? It would be less hostile to all of us the Quebecois.

[@aliqobadian-kalhor9485]

Well you’re not the majority

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

​@@aliqobadian-kalhor9485hey get a life and a calculator

[@luciedebellefeuille7537]

Je remarque que la plupart des commentaires ici sont rédigés par des des Québécois francophones, j'aimerais lire les commantaires d'Anglo montréalais.

[@samspade1841]

We need a divorce. Quebec you go your own way and you can take your share of debt with you. You can keep Trudeau too. Western Canada will be fine on our own. If the east needs resources the west will entertain any reasonable offers. Of course our indigenous people will argue Canada has to stay united to ensure the money keeps flowing. See we’re united in our division.

[@fecteauanthony457]

You know that Trudeau is from Ontario right. Contrary of Alberta, Québec never get subvention of the federal for the big project. If the west wants independence, they got a huge debt with Ottawa, Québec don't have this problem.

[@lelys1018]

No lol keep Trudeau, he was born in Ontario 😅

[@altela1597]

Montreal Gazette efface les commentaires qui ne leur convienne pas, même s'ils sont vrais et respectueux.

[@DonaldMains]

There will always be a few crazies, but it's safe to say that 90% of Anglos and 80% of Allos will vote NO.

[@nicolasg.514]

A voir comment tu es déjà mauvais avec les statistiques... je serais curieux de voir d'où provient tes chiffres 🤣

[@SpaceXToMars]

Funny how anglophones believes independance does not include them...

[@ianhowes8141]

All canadans should have the right to vote for the PQ - let them form government and vote to leave canada for good!

[@robin-bq1lz]

Si seulement 🫶🏼😂😂

[@lord_shaman6662]

Amen

[@elphil123]

Un vrai meneur enfin! / A real leader finally!

[@pwopwo1]

Les Anglais se croient ouverts avec l'immigration. PSPP se défend mal avec son machin truc occidental qui rappelle la droite européenne. Ce qui se passe ici est différent. Le grand remplacement n'est pas par une culture du sud, ou africaine ou musulmane .... C'est plutôt que trop d'immigrants deviennent une copie 🇺🇸 d'abord anglais-nord-américains🇺🇸et refusent de s'intégrer au Canada français, terre d'accueil . Multiculturalisme trudeauiste🇺🇸=melting-pot🇺🇸= on est tous immigrants sous un ciel🇺🇸. Ex : enfants : Toula, Zogalis, Holness ... porte-paroles du Qwébac Bashing.

[@chatufabiola3214]

Just a new fever spike 😂

[@marcelvaive9732]

Une rencontre fructueuse mais un manque de profondeur sur les raisons réelles de l'indépendance. Les anglophones de Montréal, sont bien conscient des raisons de réaliser l'indépendance. Les difficultés de s'exprimer dans la langue anglaise est compréhensible par le manque pour PSPP de s'exprimé dans une langue qu'il ne maitrise pas au point d'être fluide. On apercevait qu'il avait de la difficulté à faire ressortir ses arguments. Puisque les anglophones du Québec sont censés parler le français, je me demande pourquoi PSPP ne discute pas dans sa langue alors qu'il serait plus à l'aise, d'autant plus que la rencontre est au Québec. Vous ne verrez que très rarement un anglophone lors d'un rendez-vous pour une entrevue par un média francophone, parler en français. Je me rends compte aussi, que l'approche du discours indépendantiste de PSPP est basée sur la '' bonne entente''. Il ne cherche pas de confrontations ce que les gens apprécient de lui. Mais, il va arriver un moment donné, qu'il sera confronté à la réalité des différences entre des fédéralistes et indépendantistes sur le fond de l'indépendance lors de débats sur la question avant la prochaine élection et s'il est élu, lors de la campagne référendaire. On fera ressortir que l'on veut détruire le Canada, que la langue française est respectée au Canada, etc.

[@danwoodmaster]

Je ne suis pas tout à fait d'accord avec vous. PSPP ne maîtrise peut-être pas la langue anglaise parfaitement mais il est très clair dans ses réponses et il ne s'enfarge pas comme d'autres politiciens qui se sont assis à la même table. C'est vrai que s'il est élu, il y aura beaucoup plus de confrontations et de résistance des fédéralistes. Mais pour l'instant et à 2 ans des élections, il se contente surtout d'expliquer son projet et je trouve qu'il réussis très bien que l'on soit pour ou contre. Pour les anglophones, les arguments économiques présentés par PSPP peuvent avoir un certain impact sur eux et les faire réfléchir positivement en faveur de l'indépendance. Plamondon est définitivement un rassembleur.

[@ithinkthat]

Legault also courted the Anglo vote and then let them down one bill after the other. While PSPP is quite likeable, I trust him as much as I trust Legault which is very little. Politicians rarely keep their word.

[@christinedumas6193]

You are right not to trust him , he is just very good at charming people, but everything he is saying does not make sense, it's very empty and to much on the left side, he is not on the center at all. By the way i use to be a separatist and now i am a conservative, that's the only way to save our way of life

[@1898JoeBoyle]

As a western Canadian, I would like to donate to the PQ. I would LOVE to see the Quebecois leave this country

[@KillTheLamb1]

Hey we appreciate that. No matter your reasons, we will take any support to help us leave Canada

[@popolpolpolz]

Everyone shoulod vote for PQ over the next years. Its a completly different party. The Quebec of 2024 is completly elsewhere compared to 30 years ago. The identity debate has been a rough ride. Everyone respects each other now. Quebec wants to be a whole thing, like always but also it wants to be productive and share its vision... We all want our own garden. Most people in anglo communities voted by bad habit for decades. Its getting sad now in 2024 to see people spit on the guy trying to paint his fence just because he's painting it a different color. Whatever it was that grandfather had against Renée Lévesque should be gone by now. No one is angry against the anglo community in here. We want our powers back. Our constitution! meaning the constitution of whoever is living on the territory... nothing to do with language or head shapes lol!!!! Since all our kids speak french and english now, we can all shake hands and make sure no one here talks about abortion laws but about education, economy and long term development. The Quebec isnt the Alberta or the B-C. Why wouldnt we agree on that for once...?

[@dafra26]

Curious how the threat to French is always seen as the English language, when the second most spoken language after French in Quebec is not English, but Arabic. Might be time to reframe the dialogue on what needs to be done to protect Quebec culture.

[@christinedumas6193]

Je suis d'accord avec vous 100%

[@acharat6]

Don't forget that the majority of Arabic speaking people in Quebec come from Maghreb, where almost everybody speaks perfect French. So it's not really a good comparison. Also, Quebec is surrounded on all borders by 350 million English speakers.

[@irishrootsQ]

Wary of WHAT?

[@aliqobadian-kalhor9485]

Truly funny,

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

Truly troll you are

[@HarishAchutham]

Looking at his mannerisms he is either very intelligent or an idiot but I'm starting to lean to the former... Could also be he acting 😅

[@Mountain-Viking]

Using the old liberal scareccrow again are we?

[@johnmavros6382]

This program will suck up to anyone to stay relevant, this is a perfect example.

[@marlenemmc2339]

the cities control the housing crisis and it's not yet repaired. We are having trouble to provide because our cities are not well directed with building permits not given and it's non sense . There is no reason with all these delays ! for MTL I think Plante is doing it on purpose to receive more money when she just can make it happen. But she prefers to ask for more money and spend the peoples money for her own little pleasures that serves nobody at this time.

[@mxpwr4003]

PSPP : Just give Montreal english communities their special status , own laws , language and whatever they want out of it. They contributed more than enough to the well-being of the place. Not just francophones have tons of grievances against Canada (To be renamed : Justinland) and wants out. - Francophone separatist

[@davidgosselin5466]

He's all so casual. Like removing a province is like removing a skin tag. There's an old adage, "a house divided cannot stand". If Quebec goes, the remaining provinces over time will cede to the U.S. Moreover, over time, because of geopolitics, Quebec will have to associate economically with the USA more and more. I predict it would eventually become a second Louisiana.

[@Walexo45]

Le Canada pourrait facilement être une « union canadienne » à la place, comme celle en Europe. Les états-unis n'ont pas d'intérêt à venir nous envahir. Une union canadienne réglerait justement la question de plusieurs enjeux au Québec, et toutes les provinces en sortiraient gagnant.

[@yohanhalac6495]

Il est bilingue lui!! pourquoi il empêche nos enfants d'être bilingue. Fait ce que je dit, mais pas ce que je fait

[@loicklaroche6816]

Mais de quoi tu parles🤣

[@KillTheLamb1]

Il a jamais volu empêché personne d'être bilingue voyons donc. As-tu au moins écouté l'entrevue? Il en parle justement.

[@reversalstudio]

i will vote for independance if i have the chance and i suggest we change the flag a little bit just a lil red band for the english people who have been here for long and a green band for the people who have been here for even much longer something canada has never done....we deserved a bit of blue on the flag...canada is not interested in trully promoting a franco-british culture!!!we will if we become a country..

[@Sebastienpoliquin]

Hoowooo , watch out , touching that flag I hope your joke Will stop here.

[@franccoeurguy4735]

dire que cette entrevue se passe au Québec.... on dirait que c’est dans le Canada ou aux USA. Wow....

[@jandron94]

De façon générale les dirigeants politiques québécois ne devraient pas autant s'exprimer en anglais, ils envoient un très mauvais signal. Ces anglos vivent dans une bulle hermétique au français et sont confortés dans leur attitude.

[@wokwalkin3773]

Welcome to Montreal. If you don’t like English, there’s more French in Rimouski.

[@jandron94]

@@wokwalkin3773 La question ici ce n'est pas d'aimer ou de ne pas aimer l'anglais mais d'aimer le français

[@wokwalkin3773]

@@jandron94 relax at the very least Montreal is a bilingual city. If not a multi lingual city. it’s only the hardline French nationalist that don’t like it. the English, the Italians, the Jews, the Greeks the Portuguese the Chinese, the Arabs are perfectly fine with other languages. If you like hearing only French on the streets, Montreal is not the city for you.

[@jandron94]

@@wokwalkin3773 Je vous parle pas des Français (ce sont les personnes qui ont la nationalité française) mais des Québécois ! Et je n'ai rien contre le bilinguisme ou le multilinguisme, bien au contraire, pour les touristes au duty free de l'aéroport de Montréal.

[@sharonperry5213]

My country is Canada. In canada we have strength.

[@nicolasg.514]

Vive le Québec libre !!!

[@KillTheLamb1]

Vive le Québec libre! 💙

[@Philippe275]

On pourrait prendre 100k immigrants par année, c'est une question du type d'immigrant... si ce sont des immigrants qui veulent être québécois et non des mal pris pour qui c'est juste un endroit mieux que d'où ils viennent... s'il y a seulement 5k de ces gens par année, so be it, s'il y en a 50k, tant mieux lol.

[@themisterolichip]

Je ne suis pas d'accord, c'est pas juste une question d'intégration culturelle, il y a aussi des questions sur la capacité de les loger, d'offrir des services décents, etc.

[@Philippe275]

@@themisterolichip si c'est une question de services décents, on devrait pouvoir en accepter -20 000 par années...

[@LouisPaquette]

We need numerous separate nations. 1. Quebec being just one of them. There should be another for 2. native indians, another for 3. the woke/communist socialist crowd, and then finally, a 4th for patriots who love Canada but are sick and tired of funding and cow-tailing to other groups who don't contribute but complain and make massive demands on all, others. Time to move on. Let's see how these first 3 do without constant financial subsidies and coddling.

[@HyperDragon1804]

I really enjoyed Chesterman's question. It was a loaded question with immense pertinence. PSP had trouble to give us a clear answer simply because, to be quite frank, I do not think that there is any good reasons to vote PQ has an anglophone and PSP knows it. PQ's whole «schtink» is to promote an autonomous province, Quebecer's values and the protection of the french language. An Anglophone voting for PQ is shooting himself/herself in the foot.

[@marcdick419]

yes and its why it's failing their cause they need to adress it. I'm surprised he did'nt prepared for that answer because it was obvious if he would have been convincing it would have had a big impact.

[@naptime6274]

When i was younger i had talks with older people and in their mind, there was no way that an english speaker could be consider a Quebecois. I dont realistictly think that all of a sudden, westmount will flip to the PQ next election. But why i think its important to still try to speak to anglophones to all least let you guys know that we dont see you as "the ennemy" anymore(or at least most of us don'T and certainly not PSPP). If we are going to make a new country, this country will have to involve everyone and it will be important to protect this english minority better than french ever was in Canada.

[@bulleyes9059]

@@naptime6274 To be fair we have much more cordial relationship with Anglo than our grandparents or their parents did. Life wasn't great for french-Canadians before the 1960s. This generation are passing on, but plenty of Anglos had a superiority complex when looking at Franco and plenty of Franco had a lot of resentment toward Anglos built from their early years. This isn't really the case anymore for anyone born later.

[@fs400ion]

But he did give economical reasons. He also said Québec would benefit from an international recognition. If you're an anglo who hates French, then to put it simply, yeah just dont vote for independence. But if you're a proud anglo Who still love Québec's unique American French culture, then you have all the reasons to support independence just like any franco.

[@cherylroy977]

As an ex Anglo Montrealer now living in Alberta, I find this conversation very interesting, however there are many points that does not represent the views of many anglophones. First I would like to admit that Quebec should separate since it already considers itself a country but expects to receive financial subsidies that come from Canadian taxpayers. Hopefully this panel will look ahead of the consequences if Quebec separates. Right now Alberta’s Premiere is advocating for the same rights given to Quebec by the Federal government. Alberta has been treated as an unequal partner within the Parliamentary system yet has been required to pay out equalization payments which Quebec has gladly accepted to cover many of their social programs that Alberta cannot even afford. Once the unity of Canada is broken, there would be no reason for Alberta to not separate, a discussion already in process. Alberta would be able to use its gas and oil profits that will continue for decades while the transition to renewable energy develops for the betterment of Albertans. It is interesting to hear the discussion on language as it is and will continue to dominate Quebec’s agenda. Both my husband and I are unilingual Anglophones with a limited knowledge of French. The insecurity in maintaining employment and the implementation of Bill 101 and such identities as Language police and French only access to government information and services made leaving my family roots in Quebec for Alberta. Both my children were educated in Quebec French elementary schools, bilingual high school, English University (Magill and CEGEP). Fortunately they moved to Alberta and were able to use their bilingualism to fulfil high profile employment. One works as a forensic scientist with a PHD from the University of Alberta and is receiving a salary bonus for being bilingual. The other graduated from the Northern Alberta institute for Technology in Communication and works full time in French with CBC Radio Canada serving francophone Albertans. Our three grandchildren born here in Alberta are fluently bilingual one by attending Bilingual schools, and the two other by being raised in a francophone home. Quebec continues to say that French is not taken serious in other provinces is a definite example of false misinformation used to justify the reasoning that the French language needs to be protected. French will always be prioritized in Quebec and will also be highly respected in the rest of Canada. Once again it appears that the Francophone students will be deprived of the opportunity to become fluent in English. Quebec needs to understand that their unilingual French Quebec does not justify anglophones in the rest of Canada having to be bilingual. In conclusion Alberta has made our family feel more accepted and valued than our 40+ years living in Quebec. Let Quebec separate and Alberta will gladly welcome Quebecers English and French.

[@robertA19754]

Alberta doesn’t want Liberals and socialists from Quebec.

[@ml242]

nowhere does he say what this “big win” will cost. the notion that you can only look at receipts payable and receipts redeemable from ottawa does not tell the whole story. no one knows what happens to the economy, currency, job market, language, etc on independence. frankly this is what makes me skeptical of him and his statements that things must be measurable. sure, in all areas except your one political fever dream. it makes me a little sad because you move his core principles of measurability, truth, transparency, anti-corruption, and respect for other people to ANY federal party with him on top and i’d punch the ticket. Canada deserves a leader like him to make the federalist case - not the complete jokers we have across the board right now.

[@bbllrd1917]

To get an idea of the economical effects of gaining independence, you can look at other countries that did it. What happens is you start existing internationaly. You open ambassies in other country and they open theirs in your country. You establish new commercial relationships without having to go through an other political entity also representing different, and sometimes opposing interests. Do you think your finances would be better administer by your neighbors, or by yourself?

[@ml242]

Again, you both fail to look at the "benefits" side of the equation. It's not a question of today's dollars to Ottawa and vice versa. The question of "who do you trust to manage your finances" presupposes that a new govt can take advantage of the existing situation but "make deals more in their favor". Why? Quebec would be small and isolated. America would be eager to take advantage and Canada eager to punish. A whole new civil service would have to be created, a defense industry, etc. Irving is implicated for corruption but this hans't been historically strong for Quebec either. Independence cost many jobs last time, would again, increase acrimony, and even if successful make things worse. Look at the unintended consequences of Brexit and our recent past referendums. Neither Quebec or Canada is broken, let's not create a problem just to fix it - or worse - create a lot of new problems while doing absolutely nothing.

[@bbllrd1917]

@@ml242 Those are just claims based on fear. "Quebec would be small and isolated." How so? Quebec would be bigger and richer than many countries of the OECD, and would have commercial relationships with other countries, just like any of them. Iceland has a population of about 400 000 people, and a GDP per capita of almost 70 000$. In what world couldn't Quebec compete with that? Moreover, not being a country is what prevents us to have ambassads in other countries, and to invite other countries' ambassad in ours, have a seat at the UN, and all those opportunities enjoyed by countries, but not by mere provinces. "A whole new civil service would have to be created". Quebec already have civil services, and many of Canada's programs are redondant. For the rest, we would simply use the taxes we currently send to the federal government to put in place the equivalent programs. And we might make different choices. I don't think we would keep funding Canadian Heritage, or the CRA, for example. "Independence cost many jobs last time, would again, increase acrimony, and even if successful make things worse." Last time we got independence? That never happened... There's only attempts for independence, and last time it got meddled with by the federal government, with a little show of love before going back to the good ol' Quebec bashing. But appart from those practical considerations, what you fail to see is a very simple principle : every nations should have the right to self-determination. If you think that the Québécois people is incapable of such a thing and needs the oversight of Canada, then you think we are inferior to all those nations that manage to self-govern without such oversight. And if you do think we're inferior, it just makes you a, well... I'm sure you can figure that part out all by yourself.