Could Battle Aces Be What RTS Actually Needs?

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00:00 - Intro/Explanation
01:40 - Gameplay

[@LowkoTV]

Personally I think it's a Fast Action Real Time Strategy game. Or FARTS for short.

[@a4bcaboose]

Nice acronym there lowko😂

[@franciasii2435]

Dutch oven.

[@-JackER]

xdd

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Sponsored by Taco Bell.

[@Earsex4life]

What’s another word for crazy? 😂

[@BuddyWudzyn]

I've played a dozen or so games, and still havnt made a judgement, but the unit movement is very smooth which was a big plus for me

[@thackthack177]

Rts genre category is small enough that we can call this an rts game, if we start making sub categories for RTS games there’s going to be like 1 in each categories

[@zeburgerkang]

"crab people, crab people, Look like crab, work at mobile stores like people!".

[@jamieiscrap]

looks like the unit animations are very clean, can actually tell which units are what like in sc2

[@lilkoolaidbro]

Love to see you checking out up-and-coming RTS games!

[@cuddlecakes7153]

I just want Halo Wars 3. I still play the second one every few years

[@Kai-vo5zq]

Dang... Halo Wars 3 would be so nice ;-;

[@natecw4164]

Hmm... It was good, it didn't really scratch my RTS itch but I'm not sure if this really would either.

[@firesong7825]

The fast pace seems nice.

[@Eretec]

CnC4 was really ahead of its time, I guess……………

[@franciasii2435]

Yeah, everyone's favorite CnC... 😔

[@doogong]

This feels like the Call of Duty of RTS games. Arcadey and low stakes. Looks right up my alley

[@niimo262]

i actually like how its simplified to make it faster, i wouldn't mind seeing more :O!

[@blavena]

Looks like a fun game, I'd definitely like to see more of this from time to time, ideally with more SC metaphors so we can understand a bit :) Id really enjoy seeing how this goes with all the units unlocked and more on level opponents

[@ShimmeringSword]

Of all the non SC2, AoE, and SupCom RTS games I've seen people try recently this one looks the best. The two games you tried months ago just didn't do anything better than SC2, but this game offers something unique, fast, and fits your play style of limited unit builds.

[@david7384]

bot

[@NA-oe5jj]

I enjoy how fast the games are, makes an interesting watch

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for the review! ^^

[@machineelf9459]

The game I play is often called an RTT as well. Dawn of War II if anyone is curious. The game is played with a mod these days which has taken over patching the game since the developers don’t support it anymore. Even if this game is good, mechanically, it lacks imagination. The units have aesthetic designs a 9 year old could come up with. Definitely good for those who care only about mechanics and not about the storytelling aspect of these games.

[@ujulspins]

BA is incredibly good, I would say it is an ideal companion for some classic RTS you like. And this is also the case when it is easy to start playing, but very difficult to achieve perfection.

[@jacktracy7839]

Play beyond all reason, best rts out there rn

[@atrtsh]

+1, and it's free. Just play the scenarios before you try multiplayer, or spectate a lot, it's got a lot more depth than you realise and it really helps to know the basics

[@HymmnosSentry]

Game looks fun. Looking forward to seeing more units.

[@stevenortiz7264]

This game really reminds me of Marine Arena or Footman Frenzy in a charming way. I like it! Super fast paced

[@DashBlue]

This is a great addition to the tired norms of the RTS genre

[@davidchartrand1033]

I am really excited about this game!

[@gcl2783]

I love the phrase, "let me explain you".

[@SantiagoAlvarez-cs9dg]

Seems pretty fun. If the composition of decks is divided by faction cards & neutral cards will be really really dope

[@anni3438]

this reminds me a lot of broodwars golems UMS in some ways

[@Eckster]

Yeah, Golems, there was another one where you'd constantly have units spawning and you'd fight in the middle, but I can't remember the name of it, I think it was like HELL or something in all caps.

[@MrTBSC]

nice mammoth display kinda reinforces my idea to have them be the frontal support units for mortars and heavy hunters (think SC goliath of the latter) instead of king crabs or crusaders

[@gunnararc]

Looks like a lot of fun! Like all these new games it's really lacking that sweet "punch" Starcraft has with it's incredible animations and sound effects, but I'm sure that'll improve with time

[@Vertrucio]

If you stream more of this, I'll definitely watch. I like how it's an accelerated RTS. It has the strategy, especially played by pros. But it does skip the low unit count early game.

[@Nil-js4bf]

Very curious if this will have mainstream appeal and break out of the small RTS circles.

[@Haigotron]

For those that played it. How much of a factor is your deck composition? Can you enter a game, and essentially "lose" just because of how bad your deck is?

[@MikeMcEachron]

Hadn't heard of this before but it looked very interesting. Reminded me of clash royale as an RTS which I think has a lot of potential.

[@jaxelt1]

Ehhh... I don't really like the way that this feels super streamlined and "dumbed down," like a mobile port. I'm sure it's fun in its own way but I don't think it has a lot of staying power.

[@JasonMendoza-hd3ce]

I don't even play starcraft but I watch uThermal and even I can tell he's just sitting around doing nothing, the real actions per minute is like, 25, maybe he's clicking around while talking but it's just an auto battler where your choice of units is what drives the game, along with some minor amount of positioning and splitting of units.

[@lemonsys]

What I'm curious to see is how the extra APM will get used since there's no macro

[@wiskonine]

The game is an absolute blast to play! The deck building is to interesting and fun. Every day I play, I find a fun new build to try

[@dbp_pc3500]

Looks way better than stormgate

[@ludovictrottier425]

This looks quite fun, very unique playstyle.

[@SH-os1ck]

Commentary was great U!

[@endredomokos1770]

I want the opposite of this, this is about being quick and precise micro, I want an rts where slow methodical thinking matters more than good movement and precision

[@brandonsaffell4100]

Have you considered turn based strategy games?

[@Corusame]

Google Songs of Silence, you won't regret it. Fantastic strategy game for the thinker

[@leojohn1615]

total war or Warno might be more up your alley then

[@endredomokos1770]

@@brandonsaffell4100 I'm playing them too but I do enjoy real time as well, just not when it's so fast paced, I'm more for casual level aoe2 than any level of sc2 if that describes it well

[@endredomokos1770]

@@Corusame it has been gathering dust in my steam wishlist, I should probably prioritise it more!

[@ShumaBot]

I've had a great time with this game so far.

[@wiladam]

While the core idea of customizing your army with a unit deck seems quite interesting, the gameplay, as it is so far, didn't impress me much. RTS is a very niche genre, and without a solid campaign, world / setting to immerse yourself in, it becomes even more niche. I see a lot of these new RTS titles focus mostly on the PvP aspect, hoping to rival the success of StarCraft (or something like DotA even, which is after all mostly PvP). All of this happens to the detriment of any kind of narrative or world building within the game. If you can't draw people in with something immersive, the only other choice is to pump a lot of money to promote the esports side of things, which requires a big budget. And I don't think these companies have that.

[@desperado3236]

Well said man. SC1 wasn't made for esports but became popular and good because of its setting and gameplay. New RTS seem to forget this. Focus on making a good game for the normies first (cool setting, SP Campaign) before worrying about competitive play. I know people will say SC2 was made for esports but it doesn't really count as it's basically the same formula as SC1 with slight modifications

[@CaleCoast]

I was in the hospital a couple years ago and looking for a mobile RTS. I found Acies: Battle Runes to be a lot like starcraft. Same map design with minerals, gas and a ramp. No races, you get 7 cards in your deck and that determines what units you have. A few major differences than starcraft but it plays exactly like starcraft and a touch screen is surprisingly good at RTS. So, I would recommend everyone who's a starcraft fan to play Acies on mobile. I really enjoy it.

[@Chkoupinator]

In pure game design theory as long as there is resource management and unit production etc (which there clearly is) it's no longer just a tactical game but it is a strategy game. Another thing our game design teacher used to say is tactics are on the scope of a single squadron, if it's about a war then it's more of a strategy game I guess the Fast Action Real Time Strategy acronym really does suit it best

[@Pangora2]

Tactics tends to deal with smaller units. How do I take that hill? Strategy tends to be the highest level. A strategic bomber wins a war by wiping out a city. What is our strategy for winning the war? You prepare strategies and they take time to unfold. The area in-between is Operations. Operation Overlord, D-Day, was certainly bigger than taking a beach, but smaller than winning even a country. The RTS genre itself is rarely, rarely strategic. If you can't end the war in the game it probably isn't strategic

[@TheWayManREAL]

As a wc3 player, I can say it is just too simple for me... Idk, just doesn't appeal to me personally. I get LoL and other games are "amazing" and "easy" for everyone. But the VG industry really is dry IMO, hope to see a good RTS game like zero space.

[@SH-os1ck]

This is a really cool game! Maybe they will actually release it. And uthermal can win big money :)

[@NoEndingInSight]

Very excited for this game. Being able to play shorter games works way better for my schedule.

[@galaxybrian8039]

i think a big factor of this game that people seem to be missing is how short not only the games are, but the sessions of play. you can hop into this game for 20 minutes and knock out a few games, then go do something else. it’s not a game you play for 3 hours straight.

[@anderandersson5229]

Looks interesting 😊

[@Flanktank2]

You should also check out sanctuary shattered sun once it gets closer to release.

[@harlockmbb]

Seems more focused in taking/destroying bases than the unit combat.

[@stysner4580]

That's every RTS game?

[@mike6605]

Really cool, and looks like something I could enjoy even though SC is too much for me to handle.

[@underakillingmoon]

Does anyone have a beta key to share?

[@dankrue2549]

This is exactly the kind of game I would enjoy watching, but probably never play. For better or worse.

[@leafykille]

This actually looks pretty good, they are clearly focusing on multi player game play over anything else.

[@matthewsemenuk7544]

its kinda like a UMS in broodwar, but expanded a little

[@brandonsaffell4100]

Looks fun. Love micro, dont love base management.

[@jankzgsoldier9396]

This game look neat. Beginner friendly too. I’ve always wanted to get into StarCraft, but just too late you know

[@gabrielpowers766]

It's not too late to play Star Craft. It's not the hey day but sill many games at all levels.

[@jankzgsoldier9396]

@@gabrielpowers766 well, to be more honest. I did put in 5 hours with a buddy, but he quit because I beat his roach rushes with skytoss. And not nearly as fun without a buddy. He got all mad too, I’m like why you cheesing me when we literally just started learning lol

[@caraelfo]

@@jankzgsoldier9396 2v2 is very good to play with friends while they learn.

[@taoroalin]

Please make a Beyond All Reason video!

[@ObliviousNaga]

This game looks really cool

[@hendrixj.8356]

Remember when fidget spinners were popular Pepperidge farm remembers

[@rwthereyet4832]

who rang the door bell?

[@Ty-bz7zx]

Mehhh ... Might be awesome in a few yrs. Still entertaining to watch the uT strats/tactics/maneuvers on it though. =))

[@Vinny4y0u]

This looks alot more managable then RTS ladder which i just get panic attacks from how much i need to do and micro but also macro at the same time still though i have single brain for micro where i can only control 1 unit to the better preformance so idk, but it looks quite interesting

[@blakedurrant9399]

Hype. Can't wait to try this.

[@dusekdan]

Thanks for the video and changing the game to "change a pace". My observation for now: Really simpliefied, which allows you to focus on micro. I don't like you knowing the opponents deck and fog of war is too visually distracting.

[@V1nc3Vega]

This is by far my favorite representation of fog of war yet!

[@deropl2667]

You should check Earth 2140 - 2160 its close to deck here

[@chabosmulm]

After long consideration and grinding to diamond in this game.. yeah it is the future of rts, this is exactly what RTS needed and to be honest this game ruined me, I will probably never play classic rts again... Watching esports is a whole different animal, I find battle aces quite boring to watch, BUT to play its soo much more fun.

[@patrickjosephmarayag826]

Doesn't feel like an RTS. It's like a mashup of MOBA with turn-based tactics?

[@slabathonfury3879]

I have no idea what's going on

[@boltstrikes429]

This looks like starcraft if it was even faster, and with dead simple macro

[@MrTBSC]

rtt would be games like Mechcommander, you control like 5 or less units with specific weapons or abilites battle aces is a rts, company of heroes and dawn of war 2 are rts ...

[@powlee9333]

idk, for me it looks like C&C4, no base building, just building units and attack. will probably get boring quickly

[@BoodyAtGames]

Attack of the fidget spinners

[@maximk9964]

But is it fun to lose 20 times in a row? Maybe I'll find out when it comes out.

[@r0maga]

It's hella addictive

[@kardrasa]

it looks really dope, I hope it is actually fun to play

[@Gromic2k]

I like it

[@markwasiewicz9782]

How to play this game

[@CalyxLeMaster]

I got a key but now need to invest 10 THOUSANd dollars into new super pc

[@IDCSAO]

thats pretty interesting

[@Guyinkgo]

Hahaha.... amazing!

[@erfanzaker2114]

Cool game

[@shamhoshino]

high pace short game

[@WhitePointerGaming]

Battle Aces isn't really an RTS, it's more of a RTT (real time tactics). So no, I don't think it's what RTS needs, because it's targeting a different niche. I also don't like how the result of the game could be determined by your unit loadout before it even starts. If your opponent happens to picks a unit that you have no counter to, you're screwed.

[@TheAndrwwJohnson]

Lead balance designer made this? No wonder all the units were way off on power lol

[@andrewmumford2431]

I wish I had a pc

[@user-io1mj9ex8l]

David Kim is a huge red flag.

[@stardrifter2872]

Battle Aces looks like a Custom mini game not an actually full RTS game. It might be fun for a couple of hours but not something to invest into masters for years of your life.

[@jamez0r]

I want to see more Battle Aces

[@johansallqvist6027]

Compared to StarCraft it’s like comparing Lord Of The Rings to Rings of Power….

[@mopzillauk]

The issue is it takes absolutely forever to unlock units, when they should be free from the start. Game is dead on release because of this.

[@kaijinkazura520]

isnt that the point of tech?! so you unlock units as you get the requirement.

[@Gilvad0]

From a business perspective the total lack of personality is a big issue IMO. I hope it's successful as the core gameplay looks great, but I expect a lot of people will just find it bland regardless of how good the gameplay is.

[@arhonvalran1551]

I have a feeling that there is less and less strategy in modern RTS. Without scouting, without building a logistic its only unit movement left. Like in micro tutorial in SC2.

[@kinggarithos888]

Seeing your opponents deck seems idiotic considering a major portion of an RTS is surprising your opponent with tactics.

[@absence9443]

No, SC3 is what it would need. But rather not by current blizzard

[@chrissmith834]

I think we'll have to see how it turns out. I do like being able to pick your "deck" but I feel like it's going to make the game stale. The majority of games are going to look the exact same. Just like other deck builders, 80% of the players will be playing the same top 1 or 2 decks. Hopefully they find away so this doesn't happen. Liking the out of box thinking.

[@Paralda]

I mean, this happens in Starcraft as well. People are going to optimize. It's up to the balance team to make sure there are some viable choices for everyone, but some strategies will always suck.

[@Ioniota]

Did you ever look into B.A.R? Beyond all reason?

[@kylejohnson6279]

Fun seeing more rts games but I'm not a fan of how fast paced it is. This game makes it hard to become invested in whatever you're doing since there's a timer. Also, I like macroing and building static defense as much as I like the action, but macroing/base defense isn't important in this game.

[@yopomo]

its very important in my experience, the battles will be won or lost on eco, having an extra base on your opponent and holding let me get a bunch of units on them, plus my cheesy strats get crushed against a heavy defense. akin to holding against a Zergling rush, once they stop my early pressure im in big trouble if i didn't get enough damage off

[@MWcrazyhorse]

This game needs heroes and tower defense structures. Only units is boring.

[@dralord1307]

There really arent many RTS anymore Most games are RTT "Real Time Tactics"

[@ghoraxe9000]

Absolutely not... Sc2 had the perfect balance of grim serious sci-fi immersion with technical challenging rts experience... This has no Dept at all... The story needs to be just as epic and compelling as the gameplay

[@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683]

When I clicked this video i thought "PLEASE NOT ANOTHER SC CLONE" and I am pleasantly surprised, this is exactly the game i want to play