Could communism ever work?

[@youngbouyoub2696]

I love how all the people who left the communist countries say it’s bad and how all the communist governments have millions of dead due to their policies but some random people on the internet say they have a better understanding of it and could implement it better

[@akshaykumaar34]

The commies who live in a democracy say communism works. Because they have not lived in a communist country. If they do they will be doubted like these and when they cry about it they will get shot.

[@user-gg9nw3tj8l]

I'll give you the sacred knowledge about 99% of those people on the internet. They may say whatever they want but in the end they never think about the possibility of occurring on the other side of a killing squad barrels. As simple as it can be

[@Pablo-ix3xf]

the problem is, not all people think like this, many people in the yugoslavia countries and in russia still have what is called "communist nostalgia" and communist countries were not perfect, at all, they had a lot of problems but for example, the soviet union, which was a semi feudal country entering the century, by the middle of it it was one of biggest economies in the world, as a communist country, i still think the soviet union was not a success, even in marxist terms cuz it didnt achive communism, anyways, they together with other communist experiments made many mistakes, but this doesnt mean capitalism hasnt

[@youngbouyoub2696]

@@Pablo-ix3xf true I do believe capitalism has mad many problems and I also see that it’s problems are starting to get bigger but I don’t think most of that is capitalism’s fault I think that’s more of the bad legislation and lack of laws keeping it contained

[@LooseHangNail]

@@youngbouyoub2696 capitalism is the literal driving force for anything. You can't implement any other law or economical policy that people who work earn their money for their hard work. Capitalism is the only place where your money is mostly yours to keep and ain't debted to your neighbors or worthless homeless turds who don't make the effort to find a job.

[@cartman2586]

"They are bad as each other" get that into your head yall, both sides dont care about your actual struggle, stay with the devil you know, but always pursuing excellence

[@joizz5932]

Far left secret racists far right blatant racists

[@sumrandomseal694]

Bro it’s so tiresome, a radical is a radical no matter what, I love this channel

[@berrymckockiner5883]

While both are bad the far left is definitely worse

[@Waiting664]

With democracy communism if it is democracy govt will change or

[@Galaxydragon24]

"theyre as bad as each other" - honestly that's the best way to put it, no extreme side is good whether you're left wing or right wing, going to the polar opposite has detrimental consequences in their own ways

[@realStuart]

People should always try to have a nice blend of both because they both have their own benefits and balance each other out

[@portablejea7014]

@ Gamete what are you sayin lol

[@DreamToBeXx]

Politics is a circle ⭕️. You go too far either side then you eventually end up meeting each other

[@HarrisChoudhry]

Yep. Horseshoe theory. Authoritarianism at both extremes.

[@myamdane6895]

@ Gamete Except it's true. Left and Right extremism both lead to Totalitarianism

[@myamdane6895]

@ Gamete Then correct me...

[@portablejea7014]

@ Gamete what is your fkin point i dont understand what youre sayin

[@DreamToBeXx]

@@portablejea7014 be aware that there are bots that sound like real people replying to comments. It’s been around for a long time, all over reddit, KZbin, instagram etc. automated stuff, and I wouldn’t put it past it if this 1 month old account was one of them

[@slii]

This old guy is very wise

[@elicarlson7682]

@ Gamete ?

[@portablejea7014]

@@elicarlson7682 its a bot im pe Retty sure, just copy and pastes the same thing over and over

[@bencorbett5838]

I agree with that last part. Far/radical left leads to communism (which is bad), and far/radical right may lead to facism (also bad)

[@portablejea7014]

I agree with you, however you're talking about socialism i believe, not communism. Communism was a theory developed by karl marx envisioning a futuristic utopia where everyone is equal and can do anything they want, quite literally even being able to change their bodies to achieve superhuman feats. This is not bad, however, the preceding step in marxs theory is socialism, where the workers overthrow the capitalists and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat. This step was focused on and changed quite substantially in the resulting theory of leninism and the later radicalisation of stalinism, which were both mere shadows pf the first step of the original theory. This allowed the socalled communists to create a system of ironically more inequality and uninaginable terror and death, which would be known in later history as one of the worst things that ever happened and now serves as a tragic warning for the successors of humanity to never go down this path again.

[@bencorbett5838]

@@portablejea7014 oh ok that’s what I meant. I haven’t taken history in a while so I get the two mixed up at times

[@portablejea7014]

@@bencorbett5838 ey no problem we all get things mixed up, thanks for reading my little essay :P

[@chiuansheng]

Fascism is far right now?

[@portablejea7014]

@@chiuansheng Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology, philosophy and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy[2][3] that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#:~:text=the%20nanny%20state.%22-,Position%20in%20the%20political%20spectrum,authoritarian%20means%20of%20opposing%20egalitarianism.

[@fluppet2350]

You just heard an interview from Chad Chadson, a guy who so far has not said a single word of bullshit

[@polobik4231]

@ Gamete Shut up kid. Communism kills people, it's as simple as that.

[@robbieb1254]

@ Gamete the fundamental difference is that you make a choice to go to prison. You don't just turn up there. Communism and authoritarian regimes are suppresive and violent....always

[@MisterlincolnTX]

@Kee485bloc bot

[@PershingOfficial]

We need more people who recognize that you need to take ideas from both sides left and right. Also I hate people online and in person who think communism is this brand new better replacement of capitalism. Communism has always become corrupted by terrible leadership for reasons

[@horsermchead2504]

dumb comment

[@horsermchead2504]

communist countries have always succeeded. corrupted lmao. corruption is in capitalist nigeria or india

[@user-mc4ko2ru4u]

Government and economy are not the same. What he described has nothing to do with communism. The fault is on the horrible government

[@misplacedpawn]

Radicalism on either side, is either (left)-stupid or it’s (right)-horrific. Communism is both.

[@TheKaiserofeurope]

Far left Communist, Far right Fascism, Middle Capitalist

[@Thespokenone]

The last answer hit the nail right on the head.

[@eliskavanickova9742]

Hi, I´m also from Czech republic. I haven´t live in communistic regime but I can tell you that we feel the consequences till this day. (after 30 years)

[@terrarian9887]

This guy gets it! It’s not a pissing contest of who is worse! Authoritarianism is EVIL.

[@lilillilllliili]

I don’t think communism will ever work, but I also don’t think capitalism is even close to perfect. Instead of leaning left or right and ostracizing those with different opinions, we should gather to make the world a better place.

[@portablejea7014]

I fully agree with you

[@twat9192]

@ Gamete the law does work hence why a tiny minority are in prison. Only the outliers break it. communism has killed about 100 million people and has failed in most scenarios. In The majority of cases it does not work

[@HypnoChode74]

Capitalism may not be fully perfect but it a system that allows me “ the individual “ to do what I want for my own gain. Which stems from the idea of Liberty to do as you please with out persecution ( of course you can’t do everything if it involves harming someone ) but to be free to do as you please.

[@portablejea7014]

@@HypnoChode74 i dont really understand what your point was.

[@MisterlincolnTX]

@Kee485commie bot

[@89playstation65]

This is why...while I am conservative Republican....I do my best to try to stay towards the middle of the political aisle. There are SOME things that democrats do that are good. But if they take things to far or go to far left, then I will disagree with them. Right now, I am disagreeing with a lot of democrats.

[@GG-tk8gt]

I believe extremists are wrong on both sides.

[@GG-tk8gt]

@ Gamete I didn't understand your reply. Honestly.

[@BanCommies_Fascists]

I don't really agree with the horseshoe theory but the more and more time went by it feels like horseshoe theory is quite true.

[@benwalton7565]

One reason why Czechoslovakia no longer exists

[@entropyincrease864]

This guy is wise.

[@omorisballs]

in vietnam, its different

[@dingusbingus9194]

The issue with manifesto is that it doesn’t take into factor human greed or desire for wanting more. This simple human trait I think caused the most problem. Also the fact these communist countries issue with religions didn’t help

[@mouwersor]

it's also just completely wrong about economics. Read for example Ludwig von Mises' work on socialism

[@benjaminmcallen6245]

I think the manifesto itself didn’t acknowledge that but Marx and a lot of the other philosophers on this did acknowledge this point and take it into account. Not an expert of them so can’t give detail but I know they did at least acknowledge this stuff

[@MrDando87]

Absolutely spot on

[@closetculture3025]

Thank you sir. Yes they are both horrible. It's all about greed. Neither side cares about any of us and they separate us with menial arguments so we don't come together to fight what they do to us. Stop fighting each other and come together for a better world, my fellow humans. We need to do better as a species.

[@SlayerOfTheDamned]

Short answer: No Long answer: Hell no

[@ivanenkoigor1]

Скажи что нибудь сегодня про blm за тобой придут

[@HypnoChode74]

They just like the Alphabet mob…. We’ll get at you for nothin

[@MasterOfTwisted]

Finally someone who fucking gets it.

[@andreward3372]

Two sides of the same coin.

[@williamweir1547]

" The communist manifesto made absolute sense" Me- 😁😂🤣😃😅😆

[@truthhurts7493]

Examples of communism that doesnt follow communism, gotta love it 😂

[@truthhurts7493]

@Koba Zhurk ?

[@truthhurts7493]

@Koba Zhurk not rly, the other one. But ussr had moments that communism was just took to an extreme level and thats never good. My main point is that people always use bad moments of bad comunism management to justify that communism is bad. North korea is always the first example. Anyway.. Communism is different everywhere and there are different types of communism. The best still being marxism-leninism

[@pranjalgogoi6552]

Yin and yang are the same

[@holidaybell7005]

It's a circle- the east and the west, not the right and the left. The top of the circle is autocratic facism/communism; the bottom is progressivism and democracy.

[@charliewhojustsohappenstoh6644]

communism can be democratic, it has been in some countries, communism isn't the same as authoritarian, though it has often been authoritarian

[@19stacymoore]

@@charliewhojustsohappenstoh6644 what countries has this been successful in?

[@charliewhojustsohappenstoh6644]

@@19stacymoore what's the bar? do you mean in terms of the economy? homelessness? education? political freedom?

[@19stacymoore]

@@charliewhojustsohappenstoh6644 it was your comment; you explain the bar. You said communism can be democratic and has been in other countries. What other countries has this been accomplished?

[@charliewhojustsohappenstoh6644]

@@19stacymoore Also Chile was democratic, until the USA funded Pinochet's fascist coup, kind of showing how capitalism has a tendency towards fascism. In Burkina Faso, Thomas Sankara reduced his own salary, as well as his ministers, banned forced marriage and female genital mutilation, planted 10 million trees, increased literacy rates by over 60%, reduced corruption significantly, fought colonialism, made burkina faso self sufficient and vaccinated millions of people. All of that in just a few years, undeniable a great leader, until he was killed in a coup Also Chile was democratic, until the USA funded Pinochet's fascist coup, kind of showing how capitalism has a tendency towards fascism. Also plenty of socialist countries have elements of democracy, like Cuba, and also like Cuba, most socialist countries are more/as democratic post-revolution, even the USSR The point here is that socialist countries can be democratic, socialism is about the workers having the power, rather than the 1%, socialists are strongly in favour of democracy, and after all, an ideology is merely what the members believe

[@jdsweets]

W dad

[@ChiefKBNo]

W mans

[@mrpoxycat3967]

Lol, this guy is hilarious..

[@OceanAce]

Under capitalism you work or starve. Under socialism you work and starve.

[@horsermchead2504]

most starvation is in capitalist countries

[@OceanAce]

@@horsermchead2504 You mean most obesity

[@gabriels.lsepulveda4818]

I really like how this man can point out the problems with both parties.

[@roach2110]

“They’re as bad as each other” lol no

[@ElekProductions]

No? Would you not say an extremist, no matter the side is bad? I mean far left and far right both want their ideals and only that. Would you not say that's bad?

[@benjaminmcallen6245]

@@ElekProductions I mean I think what the ideals are matter. Far left ultimately does at least intend to try and make peoples lives happier and more free. Far right wants to do the whole genocide facist stuff. I’d say even if you think in practice they end up being bad one is still worse than the other.

[@ElekProductions]

@@benjaminmcallen6245 Idk what you know abt politics but far right=genocide and far left= just wanna make people's lives better is a gross oversimplification and not really true.

[@jawed4106]

Name me some successful "pure" communist country. Ill wait for a year

[@PrimeVG]

The DMV is a great example of why socialism and communism will never work. Here in the united states, it is embarrassing. Such a simple task takes hours/days/weeks!

[@kevinsmith2508]

Maybe the DMV is intentionally made that way by the US Government so that the people live in ignorance of the functioning social nets of European countries.

[@khoile2417]

The communist model by China/Vietnam has no extreme secret police, and implements a free market economy (with certain socialist policies of course) Works pretty well for them now

[@hurricane3241]

Mmhmm, sure it does. And yet I think we’re forgetting about the fucking atrocities China has committed against its own people in the past and even currently?

[@khoile2417]

@@hurricane3241 Mao's Great Leap Forward was done badly, and did kill millions. But in the 21st century, what atrocities ? The Uyghurs ? Please don't just read from Western media sites - go and actually visit Xinjiang.

[@hurricane3241]

@@khoile2417 ever heard of tiannenmen square? With a response like that I don’t feel like you have. Hell, I’m pretty sure there’s footage out there of mass arrests for no reason, resulting in some executions.

[@portablejea7014]

This is literally not true.

[@qc6057]

That wasn’t real communism man. That was true capitalism.

[@dutyofcall7659]

Only a neo-marxist living in the west would say such nonsense.

[@lukethompson7740]

"Real" communism do any work and never will

[@lukethompson7740]

doesn't

[@poshpickle9024]

Real communism won't ever work just like real capitalism. It always goes wrong because we are human

[@jjdelft3216]

Well tbf by definition there cant a communist state