i think half the reason voldie was even close to physically manifesting himself through the diary was because it was his first horcrux and had the largest portion of soul compared to the other horcruxes making it much more likely to bring him back fully
@bradinepalczynski91463 жыл бұрын
I never thought of that before, that’s really clever
@marshawargo72383 жыл бұрын
Great reasoning! Also it was Personal, had his thoughts feelings & heart in it...🐍
@wildbarrieprincess70333 жыл бұрын
I fully agree!
@allanroberts71293 жыл бұрын
Yup. In fact, it would probably be easier to bring back that soul than prime's because of that. If the Riddle diary wanted to become the true Voldemort, it had the best qualifications to do so. In the end, it WAS more Voldemort than Voldemort.
@quintindormehl51523 жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same way 😉
@kohganightbane94303 жыл бұрын
All of a sudden, I feel myself wanting to see somebody animate an 8-way Wizard Duel and every combatant is Voldemort, with each one dressed in a way to represent their Horcrux.
@coronelkittycannon2 жыл бұрын
Harry vs Voldi Jr. Quidditch Voldi Hearthbreaker Voldi Political Activist Voldi Vacational Voldi Office Worker Voldi Voldi Prime
@gryffindorimar2 жыл бұрын
Ouuu I wonder what that would look like!!! I wonder if he would wear a dress to match the diadem!!!!!!! 👗😂😂😂
@raezlas166511 ай бұрын
@@gryffindorimar Haha princess Voldi
@lisacox49843 жыл бұрын
"A little blurry around the edges." How everyone looks when you're nearsighted and not wearing your glasses :).
@pvuccino3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Harry had just forgotten to put his glasses on when he watched that memory? It's his POV we're reading after all!
@jaejan3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jamma.773 жыл бұрын
Does nearsighted mean you struggle to see things far away or close up? I can never remember which one it is - nearsighted makes it sound like you can only see close-up things clearly. (I have glasses, BTW, and I'm still confused by all this.)
@Thesis_Rose3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Thesis_Rose3 жыл бұрын
@@jamma.77 yes if you are nearsighted you can only see up close
@DanGleebowls3 жыл бұрын
Biggest question I have, is whether Lily's love would have still protected Harry if Voldemort just threw baby Potter against the wall or dropped him out of the 2nd floor window
@piyushanand47642 жыл бұрын
Or just poked him with the wand
@cainemarko50212 жыл бұрын
Or just killed her first.
@scratch51202 жыл бұрын
It does seem as tho the killing curse is a ridiculously dangerous and nearly unusable weapon.
@travisjackson66092 жыл бұрын
Yes because he could touch Harry. He wouldnt be able to pick him up to drop him, plus Harry being a wizard would probably bounce like Neville did
@ariellagracie2 жыл бұрын
bruhhh these mental images i can't
@hunterkiller14403 жыл бұрын
When this happens, I wonder if the 7 Voldies would turn on each other and turn the Second Wizarding War into Feudal Dark Wizard States?
@joaosturza3 жыл бұрын
he has too much ego to accept working with someone as pretentious as Voldemort
@soki3243 жыл бұрын
I think it would be something akin to Zamasu and Goku Black
@Tick4213 жыл бұрын
I pictured them each taking a section of the world and controlling it Muggles and Magic folk alike and the original Voldemort spending his time experimenting with more and more darker and darker Magic
@Tick4213 жыл бұрын
Not exactly a happy ending LOL
@damesayo46563 жыл бұрын
It would be like Loki variants fighting each other.
@thomasjeppesen30553 жыл бұрын
Here’s a question for you, Ben and Jay, that I would like you to answer in a video some day: Why didn’t Voldemort hide a Horcrux in the Chamber of Secrets? I mean it seems much more fitting than the Room of Requirement. In fact, I’m actually baffled that the trio or Dumbledore never even discussed it as a potential hiding place for Horcruxes since it seems like the most obvious place for Voldemort to hide something he wouldn’t want others to access.
@katecourageux4432 жыл бұрын
well i mean, it probably wouldnt be wise to hide a horcrux in the same place as one of the few things that could destroy it
@josephhutchison99522 жыл бұрын
@@katecourageux443 also myrtle's death created an investigation for years and by him reentering, the school would find out that Tom killed her
@limiv52722 жыл бұрын
I think the reason is the diary. Voldemort created the diary with the express purpose of one day using it to make someone else open the chamber of secrets. Should this plan go wrong the chamber could be compromised or discovered along with anything else that's in it, like a hidden horcrux.
@gryffindorimar2 жыл бұрын
Basilisk venom is what destroys horcruxes, what's in the Chamber of Secrets is a Basilisk 🐍
@ryutak7773 жыл бұрын
The buffering joke never gets old (also never dies) and it tricked me.
@ish_3 жыл бұрын
I spent thirty seconds rewinding that part
@kaitlynschmidt71663 жыл бұрын
I went back ten seconds before realizing that it was intended.
@glittery_cucumber3 жыл бұрын
I knew it was a gag and it still put me on edge haha
@bryanlin83333 жыл бұрын
And an advertisement halfway
@MoricsVV3 жыл бұрын
I even had an Ad play in the middle of it xD
@turtle_combat3 жыл бұрын
What if Voldemort learned his greatest weakness was his lack of friends? The Coven of Voldemort would be a much more formidable villain than just one Voldemort.
@elinakeranen4499 Жыл бұрын
Or Voldemort prime would want all the power for himself and be really annoyed by the other Voldemorts
@thepriorstone40643 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Diary was different because as far as I know, it’s the only horcrux that had a immediate connection to Voldemort. I mean it was literally his diary, he poured his soul into that book, so it could’ve been inadvertently enchanted just by Tom putting his emotions and thoughts into it, so by the time it had become a horcrux, it already had all of 16 year old Toms personality downloaded, almost a clone of you will.
@gweria3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@phtuber54693 жыл бұрын
This is very possible, but it's not really 16 years as we know he bought the diary when he went to diagon alley for the first time, before his first year. So it's more like 5 years, but everything else makes sense. EDIT: Turns out I misread the original comment as he said 16 year old Tom and not that he's been writing in the diary for 16 years, so just ignore this comment and pretend it never happened 🤣.
@calvinwright22143 жыл бұрын
He literally poured his soul into all the horcrux
@riduanaqil14523 жыл бұрын
The diary also had the largest portion of his soul compared to all the others
@mcbeclips78993 жыл бұрын
The diary also had the most of voldemorts soul because it was his first horcrux so maybe that
@TomBrawns2 жыл бұрын
I think the idea is that Voldemort "Prime" is attempting to come back through the Horcrux. They don't necessarily bring another Voldemort to life, they simply anchor the original from full on death. The form he took before these rituals was less than a ghost, until he tried coming back through other means. Notice the Diary version of him is younger, perhaps what he looked like when he created it? This would also explain why he looks like a Snake, because he used the same method but with Nagini. He basically comes back as a reflection of the specific Horcrux used. So without Voldemort's primary soul, the Horcrux would simply be as he put it, a memory.
@elinakeranen4499 Жыл бұрын
But Nagini was still a horcrux in the end
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof61853 жыл бұрын
I want a Harry Potter sitcom called “The 8 Voldemorts" and it's just 8 Voldemorts trying to co-exist
@cannonheubner57203 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they all live in the same boarding house and there are no wands, so there are constant fights and the only reason and their next door neighbor is Sheldon. The only reason he survives is because the Voldemorts cant bring themselves to stoop to Muggle methods.
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof61853 жыл бұрын
@@cannonheubner5720 That’s a great idea
@MorroTheGhostNinja3 жыл бұрын
I am just thinking of Episode 5 of Loki where all the variants try to live together
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof61853 жыл бұрын
@@MorroTheGhostNinja nice
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof61853 жыл бұрын
@말포이나르시사 nice
@MCMIVC3 жыл бұрын
The norwegian translation actually fixes the "I am" issue. "Tom Dredolo Venster" anagramed his name to "Voldemort den Store" which means "Voldemort the great" The norwegian translation is in my opinion a work of art, and this is one of its best moments.
@She-Devil943 жыл бұрын
They adressed in the books why they didn't have DA meatings in the chamber. Because it takes to long to get to the chamber and it would be pretty suspicious if they all met regularly in a girls bathroom^^
@Magicman16253 жыл бұрын
Considering how many times they have read/listened to the books you would think they caught that 🤣
@zendzend51073 жыл бұрын
Make that a patreon question
@She-Devil943 жыл бұрын
@@Magicman1625 True^^
@ris8563 жыл бұрын
Besides that, don't you need parseltongue to properly get into the room? Or am I misremembering? They would *need* Harry to get in and could not get to their meeting room/training area/whatever without him at all
@orangutanxremix5103 жыл бұрын
@@ris856 false. Ron got in using Parseltongue that Harry speaks in is sleep.
@Deaconlj2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think killing Ginny would automatically create a horcrux. If you remember in the memory in Half Blood Prince Tom asks Slughorn about the process and he responds “there is a spell. Don’t ask me, I’ve never tried it. Do I look like a killer?” So Ginny’s death may work towards splitting Diary Tom’s soul he would still need to perform the remaining portion of the ritual if he wanted to create the additional Horcrux.
@dont_blink_one823 жыл бұрын
The buffering joke is my absolute favorite followed closely by the episode falsely ending just a few minutes in 😂
@hlawakid17223 жыл бұрын
RIGHT I WAS GENUINELY SO CONFUSED
@chizi70973 жыл бұрын
episode ending timestamp?
@nikolaella3 жыл бұрын
Additional question: would young Voldy be “more” Voldemort than old Voldy? Considering the diary has half of his soul and old Voldy has further fragmented his soul by then..? Wouldn’t young Voldy be “more powerful” in that case (cause he’d be more of a human?wizard?both? than his old self)?
@lillyliion2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes Tom would be
@cordo70512 жыл бұрын
He should have the more whole would which is, according to Dumbledore, one of the most powerful things in the world. But it’s a power he did never appreciate, why should he now
@Heligoland360 Жыл бұрын
It's been mentioned that splitting the soul didn't affect the wizard's powers, but there are perhaps other less tangible things having a greater portion of the soul would contribute.
@juststopalready Жыл бұрын
wouldn't that also mean that harry has more Voldy soul than voldy prime
@kubamcmillan3078 Жыл бұрын
@@juststopalreadyyes
@sevenseas45203 жыл бұрын
I’d have liked to see Diary Voldy come back. He was the superior Voldy, the most good looking of them all, 10/10 dark lord
@alexisdafrog32613 жыл бұрын
manipulated us with his looks
@AnteroTheMother3 жыл бұрын
10/10 would simp 😳🙏
@mogambochamchokaabaap72622 жыл бұрын
Most importantly, he had a Nose, you dirty minded.....
@RhaenysT2 жыл бұрын
Omg yuss
@Queen101Dalmatians2 жыл бұрын
@@mogambochamchokaabaap7262 A bigger ... pet snake?
@kentthomson84833 жыл бұрын
The main difference with the diary is that Voldemort put a copy of his consciousness into it alongside a part of his soul.
@mattvanderford4920 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a huge part of it. But like mentioned the locket had understanding. I think all of them could have eventually possessed others like It did Jenny. Also voldy himself created the magic to come back. Their had to be a different path to come back and I think his diary found it. The emotional connection between both Jenny and the diary is what made it work. Lastly because of what I just said I think the reunification between diary and prime would have been the typical way to make the horacrox work in the first place.
@zaja2418 Жыл бұрын
@@mattvanderford4920 The more I look at it, the more I believe the Diary was the best Horcrux; it practically granted Tom a new life and body, at the cost of 40 years of memories.
@SerathDarklands3 жыл бұрын
Voldemort has Highlander Syndrome. The moment he learns that there's another version of himself out there, he'd set out to kill it. _There can be only one._
@catlover22233 жыл бұрын
Who else would love to see an alternate reality movie where all the versions of Voldemort fight each other for supremacy?
@sovietguardian3 жыл бұрын
@@catlover2223 Sounds like a great idea for Marvel to set a new multiverse in another franchise
@12jswilson3 жыл бұрын
@@sovietguardian we're basically going to get it with a bunch of Kangs
@sovietguardian3 жыл бұрын
@@12jswilson I know right, that's why I said "another"
@sit-insforsithis15683 жыл бұрын
@@sovietguardian please keep that marvel garbage out of here
@ryukisgod28343 жыл бұрын
“Neither can live while the other survives” could refer to Voldemort prime and Diary Tom Riddle. I’d love to see them square off
@miahawkins86033 жыл бұрын
imagine how many people would be simping over voldy if he succeeded in taking ginny’s life force
@zohabaig64263 жыл бұрын
Well that was one of Voldy's greatest "powers" before the horcruxes. He was cunning and manipulative but everyone who went to Hogwarts with him thought he was awesome because he was gifted and very attractive.The only person who saw through him was Dumbledore.
@rationaltrekker25092 жыл бұрын
I could see young Voldemort seeing old Voldemort as weak and as having failed, but also afraid to kill him for fear of what it would do to himself.
@UnsightlyMuse3 жыл бұрын
So the ultimate question: HOW is Voldie’s soul split? In equal “slices” or divided in half each time? I personally believe the latter. It would explain why each Horcrux seems to have “less” Soul than their predecessors. Starting with 50%Diary and ending with less than 1%Voldy Prime. So technically, Harry would be more Voldemort than Voldemort. Also, we know Tom wanted to make 7, but how was that a guarantee? How would he plan to anchor an equal Soul Slice each time? Having a Soul divide automatically makes more logical sense to me.
@spadesjrm133 жыл бұрын
Is that really why the elder wand obeyed harry at the end? Because there was more voldemort in him than in voldy prime at the time?
@jpeterd923 жыл бұрын
I completely agree that his soul gets divided in half each time, I also think that is why Voldemort gradually looks less and human, whereas after he creates the diary horcrux he still looks normal, if a little pastier, and the version of him that comes out of the diary still has his good looks.
@z_movie_dan3 жыл бұрын
Think they did a video about that same thing. Each soul getting smaller. So if Tom then went on to make more Horcruxes oh man.
@claragomezb.78493 жыл бұрын
“Voldy Prime”. I love it.
@thomaschicot12323 жыл бұрын
The brothers Carling have covered all that in another video, check it out guys and gals
@juanmoreno65913 жыл бұрын
Bit of a counter-theory: I think the diary would have still been the Horcrux even if Riddle had manifested a physical body, and this version would be significantly weaker than the "real" Voldemord, as Dumbledore stated that even if his soul was mangled and weak, his mind and importantly his magical power was not, so it's not like his power was divided between each piece of soul, so this version of Riddle would have only been as powerful as Ginny was at the time. There's also the question of if that body would be "permanent", after all, life force is not infinite, and I would think that the body that the diary creates is more like a doll for it to inhabit rather than a complete human body with all the internal organs and blood and all that, so I doubt that the other Horcruxes would keep that body from fading eventually, specially if it's still tethered to the Diary itself. going from this, I believe that after obtaining his new body, young voldemort would have gone in search of Voldemort prime to help it regain his physical form, much like Wormtail would do later on.
@LordDaret2 жыл бұрын
Either that or he would live his new life like a parasite, sapping away at whatever life force he could get his hands on.
@kaylieghskorner96503 жыл бұрын
J: is there 8 Voldemort’s? We’re basically just talking about the show LOKI through a Harry Potter lens.
@JamesLawner3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Voldemort going up against himself. Also, whatever happened to the Mirror of Erised? And what's its origins?
@BlackKnightOfTheWind3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, the diary Horcrux was made with its specific functions as a deliberate backup plan. This was Tom's first Horcrux, back when he was more cautious, more cunning, and hadn't let his arrogance overtake him the way it did later on. It was a safety precaution in the event that something happened to him before he could get his other Horcruxes up and running, plus he never got to fulfill his role as the Heir of Slytherin since he only managed to kill Myrtle and as such, had unfinished business. But once he got the rest of his Horcruxes set up and became more powerful, there was no need for the diary's functions outside of being a Horcrux.
@anvos6582 жыл бұрын
Being a half breed he never could have properly fulfilled the Heir of Slytherin thing anyway.
@FairytaleFangirl2 жыл бұрын
I thought the reason Tom Riddle came back was because Voldemort put the memory of his sixteen-year-old self into the diary? I thought that was a totally different bit of magic to the Horcrux, a double magical artifact if you will. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@Alex-cw3rz3 жыл бұрын
You need to remember that each time he was cutting his soul in two, therefore by the 7th time, it was only 1/128th of his soul. Therefore I believe due to the power diminishing per time, they were less and less capable Horcrauxes.
@oliverlindgren44473 жыл бұрын
That's only if he splits it exactly in half. Maybe he just put 1% of his soul into all of them.
@mkDaniel3 жыл бұрын
Does not have to be half, but it Is very likely.
@absol19753 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's half. It's never said your soul rips in half when you kill someone, only that it gets torn. Chances are the main "body" of the soul remains intact, but it starts tearing off tiny fragments. I'd guess that all the horcruxes have roughly equal pieces, and if we have to assign a value, they're each less than 5% of a "whole soul."
@Alex-cw3rz3 жыл бұрын
@@oliverlindgren4447 he doesn't split his soul, it's naturally split by the act of murder, so he wouldn't be able to choose.
@Alex-cw3rz3 жыл бұрын
@@absol1975 why 5%?
@0bz053 жыл бұрын
Scott missed an Opportunity to use the multiple Spiderman (pointing at each other) Meme with Voldy instead! Great video as always!
@filiprehburg2 жыл бұрын
I think one contributing factor is also that the diary is the biggest leftover part of voldemorts soul
@alisatomlinson3 жыл бұрын
Diary Tom might go hunting the other horcruxes to "conquer" and reabsorb them, had Harry not stopped him. If the soul is split in half each time, he was already more Voldemort than the disembodied Voldemort at that time. He could simply do the same hunt as Harry did later with the inevitable end goal of "absorbing" the original. Also, had he succeeded in killing Harry, that is when he would have "learned" how to do this, absorbing the tiniest piece of Voldemort that was no longer part of Voldemort from Harry and learning everything Voldemort knew when Harry defeated him as an infant, including what each of the other horcruxes were. What a tale of evil adventure that would be, ending with a terrible battle of Voldy vs. Voldy for dominance. Perhaps this happened in an alternate timeline...
@AvidAngelOfDeath3 жыл бұрын
Killing Harry wouldn't have let him absorb the part of his soul that Harry had. It would've just died the same way it later died when Voldemort cast the killing curse years later in the forest. The main difference being that Harry wouldn't return since his blood hadn't linked him to Voldy prime yet
@lancelashaway21323 жыл бұрын
There can be only one!
@mrgreatbigmoose3 жыл бұрын
In a universe existing at the outer edges of the probability curve there were more Voldemorts (just try telling Gollum you can't form a relationship with a ring) and one of them felt remorseful...and survived to consume his counterparts.
@JuanMataCFC3 жыл бұрын
@@AvidAngelOfDeath to add on to this, the only way Voldemort could absorb the part of his soul in Harry (aka put his ripped soul back together) was if he could feel remorse. and we all know that's impossible for Voldy!
@RnRnR3 жыл бұрын
He would've needed to feel remorse to absorb them, but idk how he would feel remorse for something he's not technically done yet/will never do 🤔
@emmabelle81813 жыл бұрын
No no no. Young Tom was just a variant. Luckily the TVA Potter was there.
@Faxanadu_3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the lost book. Harry Potter and the Army of VoldyMoldys
@Pfuntime3 жыл бұрын
2:50 I loved that moment
@fulcrum28673 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, if one picked a new name, it would be Moldevort
@elinakeranen4499 Жыл бұрын
Old mold Trevor
@trymreitan9656 Жыл бұрын
00:47, the first thing i thought when I heard that. Was of voldemort coming out of Harrys scar, and Harry would literaly be freaking out🤣🤣
@gold-waffles3 жыл бұрын
I think If Diary Voldemort fully came back, Voldemort Prime would quickly become telepathically linked. Like how at one point Harry was seeing through Voldemort's (and Nagini's) eyes... I think this would actually be something like multiboxing in an RPG. Just one consciousness with two bodies. Voldemort would quickly realize how insanely OP that is, and probably figure out a way to create new bodies for more of his horcruxes. He'd still be immortal as long as they all weren't killed at the same time.
@jacksonmcnuggets74883 жыл бұрын
Even if there were a 100 Voldemort, each Voldemort would represent one side of Voldemort.. it’s like division not multiplying… one Voldemort is mean, the other insecure, the other hateful, the other depressed, the other mean, the other traumatized and acting out and so on
@stevenle99603 жыл бұрын
I personally think since it was the first horcrux he made it had the most "voldemort" in it. Since the whole cutting the soul in half thing is needed to create a horcrux, the diary would have 50% of voldemort in it
@Rudykawa3 жыл бұрын
We need a Harry Potter and Rick and Morty crossover specifically with the Mortplicity episode. Horcruxes creating horcruxes to the point that the horcruxes doesn't know how many horcruxes there are and who is who and who is the original non horcrux.
@shanekeenaNYC3 жыл бұрын
Morty Potter and the Rickoner of the Citadel, where Rick makes horcruxes of himself. The twist ending is that he was at blips and chitz playing one of those games that takes over your consciousness and awareness, and he ends up getting the high score.
@sheerdumbluck3 жыл бұрын
Could Harry’s massive golden spell while riding with Hagrid have been his horcux trying to protect itself? Maybe since at that moment, neither of them wanted to die (their goals were aligned) maybe the horcrux had enough power to just send some magic to repel the incoming danger?
@brelonwy3 жыл бұрын
It's mentioned in the books that it's the wand cores refusing to fight each other
@sheerdumbluck3 жыл бұрын
@@brelonwy wasn’t Voldemort using malfoys wand? Or was that after?
@riluna36953 жыл бұрын
I do believe there's an SCB video about the Golden Flames during that scene. I can't remember their explanation, but I think it addresses these points.
@ryutak7773 жыл бұрын
@@sheerdumbluck That was after.
@kimishetty24803 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore explains this. Harry's wand recognizes Voldemort, not his wand. It managed to imbibe some of Voldemort's powers after the graveyard scene. And hence was exceptionally powerful against him.
@jacksonmcnuggets74883 жыл бұрын
Chamber of secrets would be a place the ministry and umbridge would be aware of and would monitor if the DA meetings were held there. The Room of Requirements is evasive and beyond “military/government surveillance” it’s a safe haven for the DA to hold its meetings
@Here4Years3 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if Harry had thrown all of the horcruxes through the Veil at the same time?
@Magicman16253 жыл бұрын
Now that is an interesting question 🤔 Now I'm going to ponder on this while I'm at work thank you 👍
@nickcys53953 жыл бұрын
They made a video about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rojOfZ6DorytbKs
@jacksonmcnuggets74883 жыл бұрын
The metaphor of Horcruxes, is that Tom Riddle literally shed parts of himself to become Voldemort. He shed his humanity / soul / compassion / justice / love / past / dreams / whatever to become the cold blooded killer that he ended up becoming
@aufakazim5552 жыл бұрын
He never had any of those qualities in the first place due to him being conceived under Love Potion.
@vorobuh_the_13 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? 20K IS the lowest setting, I can’t even imagine how blurry 1080 must feel
@survivordave3 жыл бұрын
"Who could ever form a relationship with the ring?" **Gollum has entered the chat.**
@ryutak7773 жыл бұрын
It literally took me a minute to realize the horcrux joke that never dies. Surprisingly funny and creative.
@Polska_Edits3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@thatssomethingthathappened98233 жыл бұрын
8:26 the death that made Nagini a horcrux was Bertha Jorkins.
@obao1313 жыл бұрын
4:08 New Tom Riddle: Looks like Ginny Harry: *Nervous Sweating*
@giefvideo3 жыл бұрын
Well, what if they’re supposed to be a corrupting force? If someone weak enough wears, say, the locket for long enough, they themselves become sort of a manifestation of Voldy? Even Harry, had he not been taken care of and given friends and been surrounded by teachers who are helping him resist the part of him that is Voldemort, could very likely have turned into a dark master. His entire story of being abused as a child could just as easily have been the backstory to a badass villain. With that childhood trauma, and the sudden realization that he had superpowers, why wouldn’t it be easy for him to decide to kill all muggles and be master of the wizarding world himself - thus making the voldy part of him achieve its goal through him. Maybe the ring wouldn’t kill someone if they were worthy enough to wear it. Okay, I’m drawing blanks on Nagini, but overall I think it could make sense.
@kingbouncer13143 жыл бұрын
Voldy with a tiara looks absolutely fabulous!
@nathanlamberth76313 жыл бұрын
I feel like the diary’s manifestation isn’t really a human. Just a snapshot of willpower given form.
@Lokear3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure if KZbin ever reaches a point where 20K is possible and 1080p is the lowest setting, buffering and internet issues will not be things either.
@itsah-lee-uh71853 жыл бұрын
If the horcruxes did become tom riddle, I could see them become the version of Tom present when the horcrux was created. The diary was a young Tom with the rest of them becoming a more decrepid version of him as they went along, and that was why the thing in Kings Cross was so creepy and deformed.
@NerdyBernie663 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Voldemort in Latin is roughly translated to "flight of death" and he spent his entire life trying to flee from death. 🤯
@chandureddy6742 жыл бұрын
Not in Latin, in French
@cjg87633 жыл бұрын
The diary was more than just a horcrux, though. It was also a record of his memory at that time of his life, and a weapon for possessing others to carry out his work for him. The combination of these things probably created the Tom Riddle manifestation.
@justopher84873 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. Harry Potter: Into the Voldy-verse
@elenasgaard77703 жыл бұрын
Omg Make it happen 🤣
@danielclayton67723 жыл бұрын
J: look at Loki who did he fall in love with? Cuts to an advert for Tyson fury audiobooks Me: oh I don’t remember that happening
@stephenadams87123 жыл бұрын
Only riddle diary Voldemort be able to make killing a 13 year old wizard in training a brag
@rubygracemoseley81443 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this video was J being young Voldy talking to older Voldy about killing Harry 😂😂 That was hilarious
@RichardYauman3 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason the diary was able to possibly transition into a new Voldemort is because as a horcrux and a diary not only did it have a portion of Voldie's soul but an imprint of his memories and personality. Of course this would only got him to where Tom Riddle was when he stopped writing in the diary. Of course he does know of some events from after that time from what Jenny and Harry put into the diary but those would not have the same weight in this new Tom Riddle because while they do pertain to his original they would not be something he experienced. To him they would be along the lines of having amnesia and someone trying to tell you about things you did in your missing time. The other Horcruxes did have those smaller and smaller fragments of Voldemort's soul but they did not have that imprint of memory and personality that Tom Riddle's diary did.
@alisatomlinson3 жыл бұрын
Ah, but who knows how much Lucius Malfoy might have written in it before dumping the diary into Ginny's cauldron.
@somuchtocook91593 жыл бұрын
This could make sense though I think that with a more developed body and stronger soul I feel like it would be easier for the horcrux to gain new sensory input and essentially live beyond that
@bamma43 жыл бұрын
I think this fits well with the theory that the souls are not equal pieces Like the diary is 50% of Voldemort’s soul while Harry is only like 1.5% Voldemort
@yogtheterrible3 жыл бұрын
I think Voldemort's soul fragment was transferring from the diary into the world so once that was completed the diary would have ceased to become a horcrux.
@wrwlf73 жыл бұрын
i haven't watched this channel since i was a kid, and returning is so amazing. i love your videos!
@shoe56723 жыл бұрын
One small hole with what you're saying throughout this whole thing is that simply murdering somebody doesn't generate a horcrux. There's some kind of ritual involved, and the only reason why Harry was made into a horcrux was because of special circumstances. I don't think Ginny would have been turned into a horcrux
@Sharon-pb7so3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you're totally right!
@DECAF10313 жыл бұрын
You got me with the buffering joke really good, I had to keep rewinding and playing it at two times speed
@samosborne67573 жыл бұрын
After seeing the title of this video I imagined straight away a voldermort acapella group
@darkecofreak233 жыл бұрын
Harry: Stay where you belong: in my memories. Voldemort: I will… never be a memory.
@myyklmax3 жыл бұрын
If Tom had succeeded in stealing Ginny's lifeforce, Ginny's essence would be transferred into the diary, and Tom would have a physical form. At which case he would seek out what was left of his original body and merge with it; much like Voldemort attached itself to Quirrell.
@lucasmarade69263 жыл бұрын
Agree! Then, the two fragments of soul would be in the same being, but would not merge together again, because Riddle would not manifest any remorse.
@DONK03 жыл бұрын
They might be able to be in the same body, but they wouldn't be merged.
@superbuu1223 жыл бұрын
@@DONK0 they would have merged. Riddle would of just sought out his original self to give his original self the most power possible. Lord Voldemort is the true Riddle, remember it was all riddles choices that led him to being Lord Voldemort. He fashioned the name himself! He believed in everything he became and no one forced thier will on Voldemort ever! So he definitely would have approved of his future self and done everything to make sure he never loses or dies.
@PhilBagels3 жыл бұрын
Right. I don't think Riddle from the diary ever could have fully become Voldemort again by himself. There was no bone of the father, flesh of the servant, blood of the enemy involved in the diary/Ginny incident. He may well have gained enough power and "life force" to manifest a physical body, but he would then still need to do the full resurrection ritual to become Voldemort fully. And for that, he'd probably need that withered "baby" body.
@DONK03 жыл бұрын
They would not have merged did you not watch this video, the only way to rejoin soul fragments is by remorse, which voldemort is incapable of doing. And phil, the potion used to revive voldimort was only necessary because he didn't have a vessel. The diary method used ginny's life force to recreate tom's body and in turn killing ginny. The potion isnt the only way to revive. Voldemort said himself that he invented it.
@kurocat471 Жыл бұрын
for one, voldy prime put his consciousness in the diary which is what allowed it to come to life in the first place. also the diary is the most powerful horcrux since it has half of voldy's soul while the others all have much less (especially harry). but i do think if tom got a body back he'd merge back with less-than-the-meanest-ghost voldy's spirit leaving just one voldy, with a body, and six horcruxes with the ability to make a seventh from ginny's death
@brickbot2.0383 жыл бұрын
Actually, right now my connection is pretty decent, so this is one of the few videos that I'm not watching at 144p.
@mimull13783 жыл бұрын
I have a weird question, remember when Lupin said that you would still be alive in a sense if you received the dementor kiss but you wouldn't be able to feel or have any sense of self. I wonder if a horcrox works in a similar way, each time it takes part of your soul, your sense of self and your humanity. So my question is if you made one to many horcroxes would it be the equivalent of resiving the demetors kiss.
@hollymcleod85423 жыл бұрын
If every time Voldemort makes a horcrux it splits his soul in half wouldn't the Diary Voldemort be the strongest Voldemort regardless of which is the 'original voldy' because it has the highest percentage of soul?
@cgrimes343 жыл бұрын
Was the diary created first? I thought the ring came first. Depends on if he killed the Riddles before or after opening the Chamber
@AlphaFX-kv4ud3 жыл бұрын
@@cgrimes34 diary came first
@hollymcleod85423 жыл бұрын
@@cgrimes34 I am pretty sure the diary was first, then the ring, then locket, cup, diadem, Harry, then Nagini?
@superbuu1223 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t split in half. Never stated half. Just split. Could be 1 percent for all we know. Nature does it, not Voldemort. And could use infinitesimals which still would cause damage to a non complete soul, encouraging ppl to not murder, yet if they do, it’s very minimal to the amount of soul you have so the choice is yours to make. It makes sense this way. Everyone has free will and is responsible for their own choices. Therefore Voldemort would always have more soul than any other version of himself after. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t be him. He’d be someone else. So it has to be this way.
@PhilBagels3 жыл бұрын
There's no reason to assume that souls obey math like cutting a piece of cake. This is metaphysics, not mathematics.
@Not_Thebadguy2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if there were multiple cauldrons and in the fourth movie Pettigrew threw all the horcruxes in the cauldrons and created multiple voldemorts.
@Cherry._-_.gaming Жыл бұрын
Lol that would actually be so funny
@elinakeranen4499 Жыл бұрын
He'd be shortly out of appendixes to cut
@elinakeranen4499 Жыл бұрын
Imagine what the balls Voldemort would look like
@antssa25583 жыл бұрын
I think the other horcruxes wouldn’t have enough soul to become another voldemortiam
@prabir11822 жыл бұрын
1:50 so happy they finally used this idea with What if Harry was in Skytherin xD
@Chikararyoku3 жыл бұрын
8 Voldemorts, I think it would be possible (if not for the death curse on the ring) you explained the Diary the locket, if the trio had not passed it around and one of them had become more and more emotionally vulnerable, the piece of soul might have transferred over, than slowly taking over same would go for many others, except the diadem, which gives knowledge to the wearer. as a horcrux, it might pass on Voldemort's thoughts to the wearer. the wearer learns dark magic, goes power hungry, growl close to the diadem, the piece of soul enters them, Voldy takes over as for Harry, if he had been introduced to the use of dark magic and its uses,... like say; if he got sorted into Slytherin, being told over and over how noble Voldy's purpose was, maybe believing that, he would actually draw more strongly on that piece of Voldemort's soul, eventually having him take over.
@cptsparklfingerz92103 жыл бұрын
That Voldemort laugh at like 6:46 had me just dying bro 😂
@MoreThan7Digits3 жыл бұрын
I have my max at 2160p… so 45 min is STILL THE FUTURE LETS GOOO
@anythingsgoing3 жыл бұрын
Actually, LOVED THE OPENING JOKE OF HORCRUX QUESTIONS NEVER DYING
@MakaylaPaterson3 жыл бұрын
Would all the Voldemort’s work together or fight each other? I think he’s so narcissistic that, even though it IS himself, each Voldemort would only care for themselves and not about any other versions of himself. Maybe they wouldn’t fight right away, but it feels like they would eventually. Another question, what if you made a horcrux and accidentally felt complete and utter remorse? Would you just end up really mad that you fixed yourself by accident? Also, “he was like one buffering error away from existing” and “Voldemort prime” are hilarious Edit: oops you kinda answered the “would they fight” question
@MrWhatdafuBOOM Жыл бұрын
Forget Pottermore, this is Voldemore.
@steakismeat1773 жыл бұрын
No his soul is in multiple pieces. He's killed more than 8 people. He just didn't tear those soul fragments from his body like he did when he created the horcruxes.
@deeperb3auty3 жыл бұрын
But then I suppose in that logic the 50% in dairy Tom is a whole 50% because other than Myrtle which allowed him to split it that once he hadn't killed anyone else yet!
@steakismeat1773 жыл бұрын
@@deeperb3auty exactly, film theorists said the same thing, but differently because every time your soul is cut in half. Though this is assuming we can count on the explanation given being 100% accurate and not a dumbed down way of how one splits their soul. If murder just allows the soul to be split if you follow the secret horcrux creation guide then this is changed. Though it's been said that the act of killing rips the soul apart and from that soul fragment the creation process begins.
@OverlordZenith3 жыл бұрын
I think your assessment is spot on, based on my knowledge of a similar concept from DnD: the Lich. Specifically in Pathfinder, there are other types of Liches as well. The traditional Lich binds their soul to a phylactery, a magical item they prepare to house their soul through nebulously defined "dark rituals". If they die while their phylactery is intact, their body reforms after around a week. There is also a specific alternative kind of lich called a Psychic Lich that instead binds their soul as well as their consciousness to an object or location of significant value in their life, such as a diary or the location they defeated their greatest enemy. That version of a lich reforms so long as someone has significant memories or emotional ties to the Lich. Finally, there's a variant called a Familial lich that instead binds themselves to a specific bloodline or group of close friends. When they die, those Liches possess the body of of one of those people and slowly takes them over until the original person no longer remains. In all cases, destroying the lich does nothing as long as the phylactery (or horcrux or strong memory or member of the group) remains as the lich can still come back. On the other hand, if you manage to destroy the phylactery, it doesn't kill the lich unless it's still in the process of reforming. If the lich has fully reformed, it is basically a new person and has to be dealt with as normal.
@darhaha33913 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is proof that she didn't know she was gonna write about Horcruxes back when she wrote the Chamber. Which is alright, nobody is perfect, no fictional universe can be perfect
@thomasjeppesen30553 жыл бұрын
She knew it at least as far back as Goblet of Fire, it seems. Maybe even during writing Prisoner of Azkaban, since Dumbledore referenced the prophecy there. I think that’s still impressive planning. However, the whole ‘Voldemort transferred some of his powers into Harry’ explanation in Chamber of Secrets still suggests she at least had a vague idea about why Voldemort could continue to live on. Actually, I think she had the horcruxes in mind from the very beginning but perhaps she hadn’t yet settled on what abilities the horcruxes should have beyond being preserved fragments of Voldemort.
@Sanktstefan3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think she had the "horcrux" in her head from the beginning, not just fleshed out in total (e.g. seven of them, rules and setups for it or how it will link things together), which she began to develop in the second book and then from the fourth book on, everything was already planned and layed out. Actually regarding the "horcrux" itself it wasn't really her idea. As for many other things she just borrowed from fantasy. Tolkien had the concept of splitting your soul and putting a part of it in a seperate object, which will then bind your existance to the living world as just an incorporeal form, preventing your death... long time before her. 😂 She just refined it with the magic of the HP world and gave it a name.
@MagicXRoads5342 жыл бұрын
That intro XD There seemed to be some sarcasm when you gave us a second to stop laughing but I actually did need it, that was a good joke.
@treed31163 жыл бұрын
Ok a question just popped into my mind. So Voldemort kills Frank and makes Nagini a horcrux. Later in the graveyard priori incantatem occurs and frank comes out of the wand after wormtails hand. Shouldn't we have seen a spell for the horcrux creation too? Or is there no spell?
@commanderhaar47773 жыл бұрын
It's not really a Spell specifically. It's more of a process.
@emilykeepsmiling94653 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I laughed so hard at the "buffering error away from existing" I had to rewind 3 times before just pausing so I could eventually finish laughing!! I love you guys!!!
@Warpthefirst17143 жыл бұрын
Existence: no! You can’t just reincarnate From a living being you’ll become it! Voldemort: haha Snake man go brrr
@ugly-duckling1233 жыл бұрын
0:50 *Gasp!* He could have been his own Quidditch Team and Announcer!
@hassanpirzada89553 жыл бұрын
i actually believe that fawkes came to harry in the chambers of secrets because fawkes tail feather in harrys wand might have allowed him to sense harry in trouble
@tickital44643 жыл бұрын
Seems possible, but he never appears later, so idk
@MrWhatdafuBOOM Жыл бұрын
_"You're a starfish, Voldy."_
@charliesheldon52643 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of this theory! Something else it sparked: could there be another groot in the MCU that grew from the flower that groot gave that girl in guardians 1 on knowhere
@MichaKucharczykNR3 жыл бұрын
Man that would be a great what-if series. Redemption story: Young Voldemort trying to absorb V-prime for his own safety... discovering true friendship in the process, sacrificing himself to save wizzarding world... tears
@Celebwen213 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep asking until I get a response: could you guys make a radio/podcast series based off your Hogwarts Founders series ideas as a fan-based project? If you did well and it got attention, it’s possible you could get a tv series deal and if not, people would enjoy it. You could get your fans to audition and record dialogue online and you wouldn’t need to worry about costumes, location or effects other than sound. Please consider? I would love to see/listen to it!
@lakeiseerie11093 жыл бұрын
J: who could form a relationship with the ring Me: ...Gollum could find a way
@piotrdworowy1833 жыл бұрын
If tom riddle became a "fully man", could he theorrtically made another 7 horcruxes?
@ghostgamingxd78813 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely
@anvos6582 жыл бұрын
Hard to say as by the 6th, since he's starting with 50% of a soul he'd already be at less than 1%, theoretically there should be a minimum amount of your soul you need to split it. Even the original is below 2% just to get 7.
@zatar1233 жыл бұрын
A couple of points to consider here. 1. Is it ever established that the soul is torn exactly in half each time. A lot of people talk about it as if that's the case. But what if you only Rip off a bit of soul; like maybe 10% each time? Or 2. Assuming that it is a 50% split each time. Could Tom from the Diary have used Harry's death to split in half. 1/4th of the original soul existing as reborn Tom and the other 1/4th being put back into the Diary so it could go on being a Horcrux ?