Could I survive a duel with Wild Bill Hickok? | black powder at long range

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Big Iron Bois

Big Iron Bois

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@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Filming this one was a little difficult as it started raining part way into filming. One day, I will have a truck and the dirt trails with a little rain won't be a problem lol Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed!
@abielbrantley4944
@abielbrantley4944 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you know this but the front sight on the navy Are small and that makes the gun shoot high so maybe if you aimed more down
@purpletothenurple9857
@purpletothenurple9857 Жыл бұрын
papi
@mistyqgaming5932
@mistyqgaming5932 3 ай бұрын
Very good accuracy
@pokerspades2167
@pokerspades2167 Жыл бұрын
The “Cap and Bussy” is crazy
@collin_dempsey
@collin_dempsey Жыл бұрын
something something gun lube
@joshwiegand2184
@joshwiegand2184 Жыл бұрын
Took me so off guard 😂💀
@I_am_Signal
@I_am_Signal Жыл бұрын
Cap and ball torture sounds like a good time
@StagFabulous
@StagFabulous Жыл бұрын
The shot patterning exercise was particularly enlightening. I did not realize that one shot could simultaneously place a projectile in the target's chest and a glob of hot grease in the target's eye. Very ungentlemanly. I would like one of these now.
@lc9072
@lc9072 Жыл бұрын
0:50 HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIIIS
@axolotlauto
@axolotlauto Жыл бұрын
You're mighty proud of that "cap and bussy" comment. This is the best new gun channel in a long time. Likeable host, good topics, these jokes you should be ostracized from society for. Love it
@axolotlauto
@axolotlauto Жыл бұрын
Just finished it, "cap and bodied". This is my favorite gun channel with Lucky Gunner and Paul Harrell
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
@@axolotlautoit is an honor to be compared to those gentlemen ! Thanks for the comment
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll Жыл бұрын
While Hickok was known to be a very good shot I'm inclined to believe his fatal one-shot hit on Tutt was more a matter of luck than skill. I've seen a lot of GunTubers try this feat and it's nearly impossible to do on command, especially if drawing and firing within a couple seconds like Hickok did.
@abencherif
@abencherif Жыл бұрын
FIY the grease over the bullet is there to stop the possibilty of chainfire ie the sparks from the first shot igniting ALL the chambers at the same time. It was so common a practice with cap and ball that it was not mentioned.
@sindento1942
@sindento1942 Жыл бұрын
I think Bill's success that day can be attributed mainly to luck. Sometimes being lucky is more effective than being good.
@johnmoore8067
@johnmoore8067 Жыл бұрын
I have heard a wise man say "I'll take lucky over good any day." and it's true. But being good is important. You won't always get lucky. "Luck favors the prepared."
@wis1024
@wis1024 Жыл бұрын
Im sure the distance was exaggerated, as was common in them days
@paulw3101
@paulw3101 6 ай бұрын
@@wis1024 And you know this because.........?
@JazzForYourSoul
@JazzForYourSoul Жыл бұрын
I am truly blessed to have discovered this channel last week
@ronalddunne3413
@ronalddunne3413 Жыл бұрын
Wild Bill Wm "Blind" Hickok couldnt SEE at 75 yards. Historical fact.
@curtismarean6963
@curtismarean6963 Жыл бұрын
As one who has a colt navy, I can tell you that it takes time to get good with it. I was told by an old fellow that you need to go through at least a pound of powder to really get to know your gun.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 Жыл бұрын
In 1999 i practiced this every Saturday for a year. I quit drinking and decided seeing if i could practice enough to make this shot was a construcive way to focuse my energy. Both can be done. I quickly learned swagged balls are your friend.
@FloridaCaptains
@FloridaCaptains Жыл бұрын
What is a swagged ball?
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 Жыл бұрын
@@FloridaCaptains it's a ball that has been cold pressed from a solid bar of lead. It leads to a better bullet due to not having casting flaws. The more uniform the bullets the better the accuracy.
@DontDoDaylight
@DontDoDaylight Жыл бұрын
Oh, man! No way… you’re combining historical events with comedy and extremely high production quality 👌 I’ve honestly never even considered using your forearm as a “rest”, haha! To be fair, most people couldn’t hit these shots with their everyday carry 🤷‍♂️ hits sound good! We can all use a little practice. Very cool video and shout-out to your buddy for helping film! I also had no clue that those handguns were designed for longer ranges… kinda reminds me of rifles back when that had sights adjustable to 1,000+ meters. Awesome!
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Love your feedback as always my man! I imagine the long range was due to it being developed when Napoleonic tactics were still used, so if you were close enough for a standard pistol shot, then there could be 100 other people pointing rifles back at you. Best to engage from a safer distance lol. Using my arm as a rest didn't feel like it helped much, but I am sure that is all just my lack of practice. Thanks for checking in!
@paulbaker5920
@paulbaker5920 Жыл бұрын
I doubt the distance was 75 yards. I think it was more likely 75 feet. Supposedly both men were talking to each other across the square before the gunfight began. Have you ever tried talking to someone 75 yards away? It's pretty hard to do. Now try hitting a target that far away with a hand gun. That's even harder to do.
@dietpurple
@dietpurple Жыл бұрын
I hope these longer videos get more views! Appreciate your effort and production ☺️
@johnbeck3270
@johnbeck3270 Жыл бұрын
This gives you some idea just how proficient these men like “Wild Bill” Hickok were with firearms. The one thing you didn’t mention, was the stance, these two were in what I would call a “dueling stance” slightly turned with the gun arm forward, this makes this a really amazing shot at the distance of 75 yards. This is the only real duel in the street Hollywood style shoot out.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын
Or... it could be that the witnesses were unreliable and the account is extremely inaccurate.
@martinlutz5446
@martinlutz5446 Жыл бұрын
75 yards is something that I would honestly have a hard time hitting even with a modern precision pistol, let alone an old west revolver. It miiiiight also be that no one actually took out a tape measure to see if it was actually 75 yards and some guy just went "yeah, that's about 75 yards" and everyone went with it for the legends sake.
@lipayy9852
@lipayy9852 Жыл бұрын
Imagine it was 25 ft and someone did the conversion to yards backwards lmao
@HighLordComedian
@HighLordComedian Жыл бұрын
Don't give this guy 5 minutes if you place him in a self defense situation
@generalmalaise458
@generalmalaise458 Жыл бұрын
Why were they duelling at such a long distance? That could not have been common in the old west. I wouldn’t be able to tell for sure who I was shooting at at that range.
@carterlender
@carterlender Жыл бұрын
My man’s hasn’t missed once yet he’s 3 for 3
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 Жыл бұрын
"I think that was a hit" ..... possible Bill Hickok quote.
@itsdestinie_
@itsdestinie_ Жыл бұрын
“A felony”😂😂😂
@robertnewell5057
@robertnewell5057 Жыл бұрын
Extremely enjoyable. 75 yds (or 68 mtrs as they insist on saying nowadays here in the UK) is a long, long way to make a revolver shot. It is actually just under the length of my back yard, at which distance I can just recognise my cats.
@Bogie3855
@Bogie3855 Жыл бұрын
I have a Pietta Single Action Army in 45LC and it is by far my fave pistol. Apparently according to Pietta it is a close enough copy that Colt parts will fit it. Always draws a crowd at the range and I have to bring some extra ammo cuz they ALWAYS want to shoot it. ALWAYS get a huge grin out of it and the ladies love it too.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын
I had to buy a sear/bolt spring for my 1st gen SAA (apparently they can wear out after 114 years), and it was listed as fitting in a few copies like the Pietta. Also have a '60s era German-produced 9/10 sized SAA clone in .22 with a .22 Mag cylinder and it's obvious they just scaled down the majority of working parts. They are SO CLOSE. In spite of the frame being zinc... So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if a decently-built clone wouldn't have interchangeability with most or all of the parts from an original.
@Cobyba
@Cobyba Жыл бұрын
the sam reference had me in tears. great content man, keep it up!
@zsmith62
@zsmith62 Жыл бұрын
On the square in downtown Springfield, MO, you can see the spots where each man stood.
@soldat7126
@soldat7126 Жыл бұрын
My son can hit 3 out of 6 regularly on a 12” square steel at 160yds with his 1851 in .38spl. And the 3 misses are right there. I used to laugh at the cowboy movies making 100yd pistol shots until I saw that.
@geocentricism1106
@geocentricism1106 Жыл бұрын
“Cap and bodied me” 😂 so you’re Tut in this scenario
@garyruxton5226
@garyruxton5226 3 ай бұрын
Dualist1954: "Making the Hickock Tutt Shot" video shows it isn't a problem making that shot on the first draw.
@History_with_Sirius
@History_with_Sirius Жыл бұрын
I just recently started getting into black powder, randomy got recommended this video, clicked on it because why not. Then the cap and bussy phrase was uttered and you have earned and instant sub 😂
@pendantblade6361
@pendantblade6361 Жыл бұрын
Commenting so the might algorythm bless this channel.
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Bless you kind sir
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
5:45 It's fairer to say that these are in fact 1860 Army revolvers, but fitted with the older style barrels from the 1851. The cylinder is longer than you find in a .36 caliber gun and is identical to the 1860 Army's cylinder. The forcing cone is shortened on that 1851-style barrel as a result, meaning it is impossible for you to fit that .44 caliber barrel onto an actual .36 Navy because there is too much of a gap between barrel and cylinder.
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 Жыл бұрын
Hey I’m curious, try making the Billy Dixon shot. This is a 1,538 yard shot with a Sharps rifle (iron aperture sight) in .50-90 black powder? I’ve never heard of anyone attempting it. I believe it is arguably harder than the 2.2 mile shot with a scope and modern smokeless cartridge. It’s a round nose bullet maybe going 1,450 FPS at absolute maximum. Then consider it’s a round nose…
@Obviousalter
@Obviousalter Жыл бұрын
Think it, dream it, do it! But also tips for zeroing a 1860 army, i know its dumb but i think it would be really funny if it were actually accurate.
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Think it, dream it, Do it!
@dudearlo
@dudearlo Жыл бұрын
they are actually quite accurate xD www.youtube.com/@oldranger3044 this man will show you :]
@pontushaggstrom6261
@pontushaggstrom6261 4 ай бұрын
"Shooting someone down in the street is what's commonly refered to as, uh, a felony"
@houardtredmond9112
@houardtredmond9112 Жыл бұрын
Okay, 'capn bussy' deserves a subscribe.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын
How big was the gong? Depending on the size, 75 yards is a pretty respectable shot even with a modern defensive pistol... with iron sights. Slide mounted red dots are another story.
@RCZM64
@RCZM64 Жыл бұрын
Nice shooting, sir. My absolute best with a black powder revolver, a Navy replica (old, by Armi San Marco), was one hit at third try at 50 meters can barely compare.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын
Great video...👍
@losonsrenoster
@losonsrenoster Жыл бұрын
Also, it is interesting that you load all six cylinders on that Colt. Many people do not consider the shallow slot for resting the hammer between percussion caps a good enough safety feature, and prefer to load only 5. But I have been loading all six for 15 years now and never had anything close to a mishap,
@johnbeck3270
@johnbeck3270 Жыл бұрын
Remington has a very similar design feature, I don’t think the cylinder could ever move into firming position with the hammer in that slot and the combined pressure of the main spring. Really fun guns to shoot.
@paulw3101
@paulw3101 6 ай бұрын
The cap'n ball Colts shot high. Need a taller front sight like seen on Wild Bill's actual Colt pistols.
@ethankaryadi37
@ethankaryadi37 Жыл бұрын
A more preferable control item would be a Target style revolver chambered in .38 special imo.
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
When the ad money comes in and pays for it, no problem lol
@losonsrenoster
@losonsrenoster Жыл бұрын
The Colt 1851 Navy would have been the better choice at 75 yards, mine, with a ball and 20gr blackpowder load tends to shoot high at 15 yards, and (sort of) on target at 75 yards. But my 1858 Remington new army with a ball and 25gr blackpowder tends to consistently shoot about 40 inches low at 75 yards.
@tmartin3151
@tmartin3151 Жыл бұрын
You gotta get in front of the camera more. You have great potential to be a big channel. Your content is gold!
@kaplox
@kaplox Жыл бұрын
Love your humor and content, dude! I'm definitely gonna stick around!
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 Жыл бұрын
Man I don’t get why anyone would buy an 1851 in .44??? The whole advantage of an 1860 is it’s a 1851 frame with a .44 cylinder. So instead of having a small frame for the gun you have instead made the frame bigger to make the proportions correct for an 1851. So you have a sized up 1851??? Why when you could go lighter handier and better in every way with a more common 1860??? The fact it’s not historically accurate is just the icing!!! I think I’d love a colt pocket navey!!! The best reproduction pocket gun I’ve seen. I understand some guns like the Lemat that came in .42 caliber with 18 gauge shotgun, it makes sense to turn it to the common .44 and 20 gauge (they actually made 20 gauge American models but French were usually 16-18). However an 1851 .44 is just a WTF situation!!!
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Free market, free country bröther.
@Arariel3
@Arariel3 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!
@tonyffessm233
@tonyffessm233 Жыл бұрын
Awseome ! Thanks for those old Black powder gun videos. Please do more Cap and ball videos. God bless you and best regards from France ! Tony
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 Жыл бұрын
I have been shooting BP guns since 1979. I really enjoy your channel. Next week when the weather clears up, I hope to shoot my Pietta Colt Army with attached shoulder stock @ 50 yards. I am part Cherokee(Eastern) and was wondering if you have a tribal affiliation ? I worked at the National Museum of the American Indian, Smithsonian, Washington, DC from 2000 - 2004.
@Smooth-operations88
@Smooth-operations88 Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, awesome content. Keep up the great work.
@johnsparling2625
@johnsparling2625 Жыл бұрын
The grease is also to prevent a "chain fire"
@blackhawk65589
@blackhawk65589 Жыл бұрын
I bet if you had more time shooting at that distance, you would be able to hit it more often. I'll be honest and say I don't practice that far with handguns. Wild Bill was a crack shot and I'm willing to bet he carried a Colt Navy in the Civil War, knowing how effective his pistol(s) was
@MegaDavyk
@MegaDavyk Жыл бұрын
Davis Tutt won that watch fair and square. Wild Bill killed him for wearing his new watch.
@johnwarren1445
@johnwarren1445 Жыл бұрын
Research before opening mouth,Tutt did not WIN the watch he took it as collateral for what he claimed was a past debt.
@sgtstedanko7186
@sgtstedanko7186 Жыл бұрын
Part of me thinks Wild Bill got lucky with his shot
@jeffshootsstuff
@jeffshootsstuff Жыл бұрын
Cool video. Subscribing. I seriously doubt Bill Hickok would have rested his gun on his forearm, particularly since witnesses said he drew and fired almost at once.
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! I read that he had done that from a few places. Even some illustrations of it exist. I don’t practice with that stance much but honestly it didn’t seem to help much lol
@jerimahmerritt4276
@jerimahmerritt4276 Жыл бұрын
" that ain't dodge city and you ain't Bill Hickock"
@PlayerSalt
@PlayerSalt Жыл бұрын
fun little video, shame so few views but it did pop up in recommended after a Johnny Johnson video so hopefully picking up
@niclbicl
@niclbicl Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Video loved every Minute of it!
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@BigSlurm
@BigSlurm Жыл бұрын
Love your vids homeboy. Super curious, do you use black powder or a substitute like pyrodex?
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
Black powder when I can get my hands on it, but this one was done using Pyrodex P
@alrandall5264
@alrandall5264 Жыл бұрын
How does the POA compare with the POI? Would WBH have had to hold over or hold under? I have seen a similar re-enactment that suggested that the shooter had to hold under. Why not put a large card behind the target to see the actual POI?
@rogerackert6573
@rogerackert6573 Жыл бұрын
Hickock didn't use a Colt Navy. That day he had a 44 Colt Dragoon. Also, original Colts were more acurate than todays repros because the rifling was slower. And, was it really 75 yards?
@johnwarren1445
@johnwarren1445 Жыл бұрын
Dont know where you get your info from.Eye witness accounts say he used an 1851 Colt Navy.
@zsmith62
@zsmith62 Жыл бұрын
You can see the spots where each man stood on the town square in downtown Springfield, MO.
@seabertotter4325
@seabertotter4325 Жыл бұрын
I think that Wild Bill was closer than 75 yds. Don't most legends become exaggerations? Same with Bass Reeves' 500 yard Winchester shot in the Arbuckle Mtns of Oklahoma killing a desperado.
@EverythingZen01
@EverythingZen01 Жыл бұрын
Its 2am im outside your apartment. And i have to defend myself
@isaiahjohnson9905
@isaiahjohnson9905 Жыл бұрын
🤠
@marksprague1280
@marksprague1280 Жыл бұрын
You should have adjusted your firing point and target location to put the target against that dirt bank in the background. That way you could have observed your misses and learned the ballistics involved. You were just throwing lead downrange in a (very) slow version of spray and pray. 😁
@dave-d-grunt
@dave-d-grunt Жыл бұрын
I read the Colt .36 was factory zeroed at 75 yds. I don’t know if it’s true.
@jeffadams9807
@jeffadams9807 Жыл бұрын
I Think Wild Bill Made A "LUCKY" Shot On Dave Tutt !!!
@stevenbaker9327
@stevenbaker9327 Жыл бұрын
My 1851 shoots a foot high at 10 yds.! Should be close at 75...though I've never tried it!
@PickleRick65
@PickleRick65 Жыл бұрын
You should have used a man-sized target. More realistic and might have got you more hits
@Pinzul91
@Pinzul91 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video! Good shooting!
@wilmamcdermott3065
@wilmamcdermott3065 Жыл бұрын
I have done 75 yard shots 44 1860 army
@bryantb3391
@bryantb3391 Жыл бұрын
Man when I first started shooting pistols I couldn't hit a can 5 feet away I've hit a plate at 50 yards and even that was pretty difficult good shooting wish there was more cap and ball revolver stuff to watch maybe do some paper cartridge reloads
@revengense7604
@revengense7604 Жыл бұрын
Sam hide sneaking down in the corner there lol
@Conan117117
@Conan117117 Жыл бұрын
now the big question is can Wild Bill Hickok outshoot a modern boi with a roland special?
@ShellShock11C
@ShellShock11C Жыл бұрын
Just bought a new 1860 Army to go with my Navy. Is that belt from Historical Emporium? Does it fit either model?
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
I actually got it used from a pile of old holsters at a gun shop. But it fits my Navy Sheriff and my full length navy well enough. Congrats on your new purchase!!
@ShellShock11C
@ShellShock11C Жыл бұрын
@@bigironbois Pew pew
@ShellShock11C
@ShellShock11C Жыл бұрын
"Cap and bodied" lol
@13lb
@13lb Жыл бұрын
you know what thay say practice makes perfict ... thay dont say how much practice you need..
@patrickfreeman8257
@patrickfreeman8257 Жыл бұрын
Is that YOU moving around like that or your camera man?
@andrewprice1774
@andrewprice1774 9 ай бұрын
Colts shoot high!!!
@shilohpacheco48
@shilohpacheco48 Жыл бұрын
Is your pose purposely. Marty robbins.if so cool your awfully young to know bout him.
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
It is! Thanks for noticing! 🙂
@matsnaslund5762
@matsnaslund5762 Жыл бұрын
Only proves Hickock was a better shooter then U!
@AaronKuo-tg5sw
@AaronKuo-tg5sw Жыл бұрын
Back old time, that guy who was gunned down by bill definitely need a glock. You got nice 6 shots with glock 19❤
@randyguapo7793
@randyguapo7793 Жыл бұрын
OKAY YOUR NOT WILD BILL WELL BYE !!!!
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
That’d be pretty weird if I was. I’d be like 185 years old making videos about dueling myself. 😂
@norgtube
@norgtube Жыл бұрын
NO EDITS
@jason60chev
@jason60chev Жыл бұрын
Maybe Hickok just got lucky?
@khester7397
@khester7397 Жыл бұрын
It's not an easy shot, and there are a lot of variables at play. How does the saying go? Something about fearing the man with just one gun, cause he knows how to use it?
@WillyBilly-pp6rj
@WillyBilly-pp6rj Жыл бұрын
I love ur vids please keep them up
@WV591
@WV591 Жыл бұрын
Gongs don't shoot back
@bigironbois
@bigironbois Жыл бұрын
They do if you stand close enough 😉
@marktombazian6490
@marktombazian6490 Жыл бұрын
You didn't controll your breath...the gun was waving all over the place..breathe out, aim, squeeze....easy shot with that gun if you've practiced a lot. Wild Bill had practiced a lot....good at 100 yards if you know what you're doing...
@rev.dr.davidcole8915
@rev.dr.davidcole8915 Жыл бұрын
Alec Baldwin can hit Halyna Hutchins from 75 yards.😢
@rickhunt3183
@rickhunt3183 Жыл бұрын
No you would not have survived a duel with Wild Bill. Wild bill had experience facing another man with a gun and not shitting his pants. Shooting paper plates at the range does not prepare someone to face a man that's shooting back. In a real modern gunfight someone great at the range may fire 15 rounds from 15 feet and hit nothing. When someone is facing another man that's also shooting, it's a whole different story. Wild Bill had balls and wasn't afraid to die.
@joeyhunter842
@joeyhunter842 Жыл бұрын
You are a crummy shot
@jeffmorga7111
@jeffmorga7111 Жыл бұрын
Yeah... I could have taken out with a sling- shot.. That longer barrel needs to be very clean.. The consistancy of the lead, diffrent today.. = super clean bore..soft lead to hook up with bore better.. The greese, hold the spark back..in the older revolver.. It tends to grime up the barrel .. My choice for that distance.. .357 wetren marshall.. Back in those days, we had nothing but time, to make these longer shots possable.. and finding what made this easy... = spin that projectile..😮...
@nagatouzumaki8227
@nagatouzumaki8227 Жыл бұрын
You not even holding it right
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