Could Insect Declines Lead To Social Collapse? | Aaron Bastani meets Dave Goulson

Insects are the creatures that act as a lubricant in the machine of life. From pollinating vital crops to managing organic waste on a continental scale, their critical role cannot be understated. The problem is that they are quite quickly disappearing.
Dave Goulson is a world-renowned entomologist and ecologist whose books have communicated the majesty of insects and arthropods whilst providing grave warning to us about their demise.
He sat down with Aaron to talk about dung beetles, wolves in Sussex and the critical lack of scientific expertise in government.
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[@simoningate2056]

Aaron - Congratulations - this was a very important interview. This year has been awful for butterflies in this country (more than likely this time due to the weather, so hopefully better next year), but changes in land use, massive fields of cereals and the loss of plants to help the pollinators and also the use of insecticides is a real issue. I do hope this gets seen by lots of people and that we can help improve the plight of bees, wasps, butterflies and other insects - we depend on them. Thanks for spending so much time in getting the issues across.

[@EcoSailor]

As a permaculturist and regenerative gardener, I'm rewilding our garden near Barry in south Wales. During my 1st summer there I've seen a Jersey Tiger butterfly and we have dragonflies because of the small pond. There were ladybugs everywhere. All around us every other house is surrounded by a virtual desert of either gravel, paving or close cropped lawns. Our attitude towards both private and public spaces needs to change.

[@queenvagabond8787]

What can I do? My garden is basically left wild and I don't use pesticides, but what about my neighbours? Are there positive changes I can make to my 'hands off' garden to help encourage insects?

[@EcoSailor]

@@queenvagabond8787 yes, you can plant berry bushes, fruit trees (in the UK, plums, apples, pears, raspberries, gooseberries currants, elder etc.) and sow wildflowers under and around them. Comfrey will also provide summer long pollen for bees and can be cut multiple times in one season and used as mulch or liquid fertiliser by just filling a bucket with leaves and topping up with water. Let sit in the sun or a greenhouse, if you have one, and in 4 days or so stir it and apply liberally wherever the garden needs feeding. Try creating a small pond either in the ground or in a barrel or old sink/bath. Put a solar aerator in it and plant water mint for the pollinators. Put native bluebells in the shady areas for next spring and other bulbs like daffodils for early colour. Build bug houses from bundles of twigs and leave the leaves when they fall. It takes a year or 2 to get the feel for a space, record the path of the sun, monitor rainfall etc. but leave any grass to go through a full growth cycle and only mow it in September. Some butterfly's life cycles need that long grass. Oh my goodness. Don't I ramble on about the things I love. 🤭 Use KZbin for researching permaculture and rewilding and be patient. The wild beauty of nature needs time to develop. Good luck and happy, low maintenance rewilding. 🌱🌿🌼🪻🌳🍄🍁🍂

[@goinblinddoggone]

We have a lot of relatively tiny oasis's scattered about the UK, but like you I'm surrounded by clipped grass, too few trees and meadows, monocultured arable land that isn't organic and busy roads within a mile or so.

[@goinblinddoggone]

​@@queenvagabond8787managed wildness is how. Check out the search facility for wildlife gardens 😊

[@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485]

​@@queenvagabond8787make sure you have a lot of native plants, and a wide variety of them to increase biodiversity

[@twogsds]

In 1962 Rachel Carson published Silent Spring a book about how our indiscriminate use of agrochemicals would destroy the bottom of the food chain, the insects and how that would impact further up the food chain, now we need to feed our birds because without insects they will die out, we are also doing this in the Oceans with Krill harvesting, cutting away the bottom of the food chain, for a species that prizes intelligence we sure act in stupid manner. The State of Nature report shows that the UK one of the most nature depleted country's in the world, we are unlikely to reverse that situation as regulations are going to be slashed to allow Industry free reign according to the Labour Government.

[@flunkyminion]

Sawing off the branch we are sitting on.

[@goinblinddoggone]

All true, but set in motion by Brexit when we lost the protection of the EU by being the branch that got sawn off...

[@jithenin]

Thank you NOVARA MEDIA & AARON for this conversation with DAVE 👍❤️

[@Greebstreebling]

In my garden in Swansea UK, honestly its hard to find insects. As I would drive my car along country lanes in the 1970's, you had to stop to clean insects off your windscreen. Where I live we've gone from abundance to virtually nothing in 50 years.

[@sprsmoke]

In New Jersey, USA, you see hardly any worms.

[@jean6453]

I am Costa Rican and live against a cloud forest on the top of a mountain, the decrease in the population of insects is very obvious here as well.

[@IanPhillipsWildlife]

Add a little log pile, bee hotels etc, small changes can make a difference.

[@queenvagabond8787]

Im from Scotland and I'm a bit younger than you, but even in the 90s, insects clarting cars and windscreens was normal, especially in Summer. It seems to literally just have dropped off massively through the 2000s til now... deeply worrying.

[@gravijax]

@@queenvagabond8787so true. As a 10 year old my dad used to pay me £1 after every long road trip to clean the bugs off the car. 30 years later I can't remember the last time I saw enough bugs to warrant a clean. Anecdotal I know, but it scares me.

[@fredflintstone3826]

Plenty of cockroaches in Parliament.

[@toyotaprius79]

And wasps and gammons.

[@Worldgonecrazy2]

Try to be funny when you have no food anywhere.

[@spoonikle]

… dismissive and dehumanizing.

[@IanPhillipsWildlife]

@@Worldgonecrazy2 cockroaches/snakes/rats in Parliament etc is a standard bot reply to so many UK wildlife KZbin videos.

[@gamerknown]

@@IanPhillipsWildlife well, are they wrong

[@theresawalsh6759]

I live in Central London. I feed the birds, have a wormery, do not use insecticides. A few years ago, before lockdown and before that, I had wasps nesting in the ground in my garden. Lots of plants have planted themselves in my garden. KIWI, FIG TREE, AVOCADO, FERNS. I think they grew from the compost and bird droppings. I've had pollinators coming including, hover flies, bees wasps. I've had bees visiting in the winter as I have a flowering winter garden. However, this year, there is definite decline of insects!!!!!!. But woodpeckers, Jays, all the tit family, including the beautiful long tailed tits, Robins . Hoping the insects return. Too much dust and toxic debris from endless wars. I call my garden "the garden of Eden" Maybe, when we've destroyed everything it will remain????

[@ChickpeatheTortie]

I'm in London and I have not seen one single ant, one single aphid and most weirdly not one single 'cat flea' - every year since I've lived here 30 years had a war with cat fleas but this year my 7 Hackney moggs have been totally 'flea free' which nice but it is not supposed to be so

[@flowergrannyjanet]

Thank you so much that was a very interesting, informative interview and I will be reading Dave Goulson's books

[@roydini1]

Thank you Novara for getting Dave on. Really interesting interview. Well done!

[@markjohnson4053]

There are plenty of maggots and cockroaches in Washington and London. On a more serious note, we really need to honestly evaluate the impacts of all agro-chemicals and their impact on the entire food chain. Anyone remember the slogan "DDT is good for you and me"?

[@lilithlives]

😂😂😂😂

[@c.rutherford]

I'm in the Midwest U.S. and have definitely noticed that insects have been disappearing in the summer in past years in the suburbs. The change has been really profound. In my house here I used to have to use yellow bug lights on the garage and porch to avoid them crowding around them outside especially in late summer. Just not needed anymore. This year the crickets at night also seem to be gone. I kind of did a double take a couple weeks ago, I went into a Barnes and Noble bookstore in September and they just had the front doors propped open all day. I guess they weren't concerned about bugs flying in. There weren't any. No more cleaning bugs off my car headlights and windshield in the summer. Used to have to do this. But then I also used to use an ice scraper in the winter, and a snow shovel. Didn't need to use either, except for one single day last winter. Many won't miss the bugs. But will you miss the birds? I don't know how they will continue to be around with nothing to eat. idk

[@caterpillaralice]

Thank you for this conversation. Much needed

[@markalton2809]

I am not an entomologist, biologist or anything like that. But I have observed a huge decline in the numbers of insects during my 65 years. 55 years ago I remember warm summer nights full of moths, summer afternoons walking through hay meadows where butterflies drifted through the air like snow.

[@thomasgreen7343]

I remember flies and mosquitos too. These "pests" are now mostly gone.

[@commodiousvestibule]

My organic garden was an insect desert this year. I've never known a year like it. No bees, no bumblebees, no flies and all the flying insect friendly plants I grow, that are usually swarming were empty. Now the spiders are starving in their webs. I'm a small organic seed producer and lack of pollination has seriously impacted my seed harvests this year. I think there's been catastrophic population crashes in all sorts of different insect species and I'm not sure if they're going to recover. There should be a Himalayan Balsam amnesty going forward to help the bumblebees recover. It's been an act of folly destroying them this year.

[@badiyasudah5022]

Thank you. Great program! Very much needed education.

[@gravijax]

This was fantastic. Im always horrified at humans war against nature. I feel we have a deep fear of being just 'an animal' so go to lengths to disguise our origins. We'd all do better to remember we are all part of the same cycle.

[@wendymelvins2459]

Surprised not to have permaculture mentioned at any point. Also, although he did defend ‘weeds’, I think it’s important to actually challenge the euphemistic terminology often used in gardening, ie. ‘tidying up’ meaning ‘exterminating’

[@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc]

I'm sure everything will be solved with more market based solutions and austerity

[@PlanetAriom]

Quality interview. Dave Goulson is such a fascinating man with a vital message. The only problem is now Aaron is going to have to explain to Michael what insects are! 😆

[@Jeffberg42]

That pesticide free town? My and Jack Layton's hometown. Hudson Quebec. Also ZERO chain restaurants. Which believe me is even more important!:-)

[@polr6311]

Thank you for this interview!

[@Lucky32Luke]

My brother would love it here. He has a phobia of insects especially flying ones. Since I moved to the UK one of the first thing I have noticed was the lack of insects. Back in Hungary we have a wide variety but here is much much less. Mosquito is also way less (I love that). So I agree it is odd and maybe a precursor for something sinister.

[@trulymental7651]

Hardly any bees , noone but me grows flowers really, but even so , drastic drop since 2019 . I would imagine the grey stripy sky and dodgy rain haven't helped. Total lack of ground bees . Not seen woodpeckers this year either. A lot of wild flowers over the meadows were missing this year too.

[@ElliotPorter65]

I saw basically 0 butterflies in my garden compared to last year, it's very concerning.

[@steve-xx6or]

High stratosphere aerosol injections

[@AriesKJJ2]

In British Columbia 3 years ago the temperature rose above 46 degrees and stayed around 45 for about a week! Hundreds of people died and it was devastating to small animals and insects. The forests were ominously silent the next year! This year has been much cooler and the insects and birds have made a noticable comback but I can imagine how bad years back to back years can wipe species out! (Including the dumb genocidal ones)

[@mancmal]

What an excellent and informative programme, thanks a lot

[@eliasE989]

Important topic.

[@tblspn]

odd patch of silence for 15 seconds about 70mins in

[@curmudgeon1933]

A conspiracy theorist could surmise that it was an attempt by Beyer to censor some important information about their Roundup poison...

[@aaronogden9900]

Sod the insects, what about the shareholders?!!

[@jackgreene5663]

Thank you for a wonderful video. But in my wild garden the slugs are doing very well (understatement), consequently not my vegetables.

[@longshank59]

I'm such a Dweeb my favorite movie is Noting Hill. I loved the private garden inside the wall. Know not supposed to like lawns but was so immaculate couldn't help but cry.

[@AVAILUSERNAM]

Thanks for inviting Dr Goulson. I would love to see an interview with a Biologist willing to discuss population and Malthus. Malthus is so misunderstood and demonized, but his science is sound. Acknowledging that does not mean you are a Social Darwinist out to cull humans.

[@Batters56]

I’ll write here what I’ve written in several other places: I drove to Paris in the Summer, within minutes of driving off the ferry, it was clear that across the channel there are still enough insects around to be spattering the windscreen and front number plate (enough to need to wipe it down). Obvs very sad for the insects I hit. Whereas I also drove to Manchester and back twice in a long weekend! Without encountering very many insects at all. The pesticides that we allowed and Europe banned have been catastrophic here. Now I know radiator grills aren’t as visible as they once were, but I remember looking at my parents Volvo when I was young which would have all sorts of unfortunate critters stuck in it after a long journey.

[@Mashbass1]

You should also try to get people like Nate Hagens, Daniel Schmachtenberger, Steve Keen, Simon Michaux, Art Berman or Bill Rees on your show.

[@suedunn2105]

Love all those people, yes please! Especially Nate and Bill.

[@stephenbarlow2493]

Most bird species of birds, including seeding eaters, mainly feed insects to their young, either adult insects, or their larvae, caterpillars.

[@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301]

Ultimately, it has to do with the soil - maintaining (or restoring) the quality of the soil by the use of dung and compost and sustainable methods. Artifical fertilisers feed the plant, not the soil. Healthy soil makes healthy, nutritious plants and - potentially - healthy animals and humans . . .

[@danielmcardle3476]

Brilliant interview. Scary times...

[@clarkdavis5333]

Thank you for this important piece.

[@stephenbarlow2493]

Oh dear Aaron. You claimed that there is no known example of where over generations, people didn't eat animal products. Jains, are one of the oldest known religions, and they don't eat meat, fish or eggs (yes, I think they drink milk). There are millions of adherents. Buddhists are not supposed to eat meat, although the position on that is more nuanced, and variable between cultures, and it was for a period the major religion in India. I am not even an advocate of never eating any meat, we just need to eat far less of it. But please get your facts right. It's good that you appear to have started taking on some more ecological concepts on board. However, your conception of trophic cascades, is a bit limited, and mistaken (I'm an ecology graduate). PS. Edit - Also your claim that at this latitude we have to eat meat, is bizarre. Many pulses will grow in Britain. You're arguments might be true, if Britain was in the Arctic Circle, but it isn't. Remember, me saying the Buddhist position on eating meat is more nuanced. Well I have been a Buddhist of sorts for a long time, and read much of the scripture, the tracts by scholars. It is recognized that in certain parts of the world, at high latitudes, or high altitudes, it may not be possible to avoid eating meat, other living creatures. But really your arguments are very poor, and you are spouting livestock farming, propaganda, as fact. As I say, I have no side in this, no absolutism. I am solely interested in sustainability, and I have over 50 years experience, thinking and reading about it. You need to be a bit more cautious about what you think you know. Same as your stuff about flying and driving cars, the problems with greens. Do you know that only 18% of the global population own a car. That over 80% of the global population have never flown at all, or not recently. Even in the US and UK, nearly half the population have not flown in the last year. So your arguments, are from a certain, Western, developed world perspective. Believe it or not, a lot of environmentalists are very highly educated and well read.

[@stephenbarlow2493]

If you want to learn more about the cultural attitude differences towards Wolves, you need to read Of Wolves and Men (1978), by the late Barry Lopez, possibly the best nature writer to have ever lived.

[@nicoled5160]

What a unique topic. I always thought of most insects as the antagonists until I had a compost bin.

[@stevenredpath9332]

Rewilding grouse moors would be a major step in reversing this decline. Throw in fens in areas that regularly flood and we could see a major increase in insects.

[@angelaoliver2750]

I'm an adult and I love insects 😊

[@philipnorthfield]

I like my lawn I don't use weed killers peticides and the cuttings aren't removed leaves are just mown in.... its staying thanks its been a lawn since 1860 it will remain one until I have gone despite being completely surrounded by farmers fields that are sprayed with god knows what there are lots of insects in our garden alongside a multitude of plant diversity including in the actual lawn surrounded by a mixed ancient hedge that gets cut a couple of times a year and various tree's and shrubs when they regulate to stop spraying the hundreds of acres with a multitude of toxic chemicals surrounding us I may consider making more effort until then I will enjoy my lawn thanks while I still can.

[@didyeaye2481]

Don't be fooled, Billy. If a centipede ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you care about!!!

[@indrid9067]

🌟 fascinating, instructive, contemplative exchange 💮

[@slothDAMN]

why does the sound go at 1:09:41?

[@stillverseDri]

The snails are gone, there are new green and yellow lady bugs, there is a bug at work that none of us ever see at home or around town ....? But yes, pots has changed last 2 years

[@angelaoliver2750]

I have my own little green house and grow my own foods, and have one of asda old shopping basket and have turned it upside down and under that, there are woodlice, spider and I even have a few snails 🐌 🙂

[@AtheistEve]

My garden is teeming with woodlice.

[@deemullis5106]

Deers need a natural predator to keep their numbers under control as their numbers are doing an incredible amount of damage.

[@Henbot]

😂 honestly don’t surprise me MPs going to events and just take selfies to look like they actually attended events when they didn’t 😂

[@ChickpeatheTortie]

I live in London in the past two years I have not seen one single ant, no aphids, and no cat fleas. For the past 30 I lived in my flat with my seven cats and every I have a battle with 'cat fleas' this year no seen one not one single flea.

[@SkyNet-T-1000]

Your immune to the bites 😂

[@twogsds]

You can do Safaris at Knepp also you can Glamp at Knepp as well. We have released Big Cats seen in several counties in England so we could have Wolves.

[@caterpillaralice]

Glyphosate does persist in the body and soil. The system disruption used for plants is the same of our gut micro biome, it changes the composition of fungi and bacteria in the soil and our intestines with severe consequences for both... and yes is carcinogen at doses currently suggested as safe in Europe. And they spray it in children schools, children gardens etc

[@TonyMarren-o8m]

In plymouth where l live we have a little wooded valley between two housing estates, one side of which was felled due to some desease of the pine trees and left to rewild. Out of the way of traffic of any kind and miles from any farms, unsprayed by anything it is very popular with some dog walkers yet still is remarkably devoid of most insect life bar the occasional cabbage white butterfly or lonely bee. As a man of seventy three l can remember when the summers here positively hummed with life in the sixties and find the contrast with today appocalyptic. This valley is so cut off that l can't help thinking it must be something else as well, maybe cloud seeding or mobile phone usage to name a few other suspects.

[@greendragonspirit1646]

I wonder if there will be extreme weather changes, like 40 degrees, to minus 40 degrees, in the same day 😱.

[@Bharavi-yk5gp]

It is insects vanishing that we must be worried about. True. But the more terrifying thing is bacteria that has already started to vanish. You not only know, but cannot even fathom the effect thanks to your absurd cleanliness.

[@Human_Herbivore]

I read recently that the UK is the only country in Europe, maybe the world, that has none of its large mammals.

[@larryyank3566]

And add a short quality fact of each species to the artwork. Regards, Viet vet/Ecologist VFP

[@MehAndSomething]

Eating farmed insects instead of beef help save the wild insects. From an ecological perspective, it's even better than a strict vegan diet because (e.g.) edible crickets are extremly efficient at transforming foodwaste into high quality protein. (Btw, those cranks spewing those "eat ze insects" conspiracy theories can choke on their shrimp salad.)

[@morganflack7542]

aw I thought Aaron was going to say lead poisioning 1:27:45

[@curmudgeon1933]

47:10. I would imagine that by re-introducing an apex predator like the wolf, it would also mean that the genetic health of the deer would improve, as the wolves would naturally cull the weakest members of the deer herds. Just as the decline of the lower insects, affects the whole chain of biodiversity, because natural parasitic insects also control the over-abundance of the 'higher' animals.

[@Equal2u]

Not only that but if the Rainforests continue to be cut and burnt down their nutrients will no longer flow into the river's and on to the seas to provide some of the essentials for Algae etc that not only provide essential Oxygen for our survival but also food for the krill and plankton that provide essential foods for the fish that billions of us eat and is essential for the survival of many and are a vital part of many food chains too!

[@breadcrumbtv]

You are a great interviewer Aaron, but you seem to have started channeling Jeremy Clarkson in your to camera pieces! (eeek)

[@MikeL-y1m]

Gel treatments are fairly safe and effective

[@ribery7593]

We will own nothing and we will not even have bugs to eat. I hope the agony will not last long for us.

[@AndrewConnell-tu1gj]

It's all right, insects will survive. Starmer will be. around for a long time yet.😱 🔥

[@larryyank3566]

What if you brought insects 'up in scales as a foldouts (aliens) childs, coffee table book made from recyclables.🤔

[@angelaoliver2750]

I have a bug house which is great and I have some single bees that lay their eggs

[@deemullis5106]

Yeah wolves would be incredible

[@stevefrancis4949]

Ofc China does that's why they stopped there desert from expanding by growing trees.

[@Stoddardian]

Does it really matter if life on Earth collapsed? All life will die eventually anyway.

[@MichaelZuzolo]

Only bees matter

[@DandelionGum1]

That is completely untrue.

[@pazitor]

The sooner _we_ are gone, the better.

[@mochynddu723]

Great conversation

[@JosefK2275]

Yet another video discussing climate change. Just started watching, but I'm gonna go on a limb here, and I hope I'm gonna be wrong, but I bet that meat eating, one of the main causes of climate change due to the Animal Farm Industry (the only option available to feeding the world in a mass scale besides veganism), will not be discussed because this is the elephant in the room most climate activists ignore when the issue comes up. 55:45 Well, there you...it's a willful overlook of the climate activist's own behavior.

[@DandelionGum1]

It's severely disappointing isn't it? A plant based diet is easy. It's a piece of piss. It's the very least someone can do for the environment in terms of effort and is likely the most impact a person can have on reducing their impact. Yet we have people making excuses for it. For absolutely no other reason than selfish sensory pleasure. It's bonkers. Eating plant based is better for the planet in a multitude of ways, it's cheaper, it's healthier, it poses less risk for zoonotic viruses and antibiotic resistant bacteria, it's better for the economy. It's better for all the humans around us, even if that person couldn't give a toss about animal rights.

[@markhilbert6573]

This is really bugging me

[@ivanconnolly7332]

Stop bugging me.

[@ramstrong1961]

The Thinking Muslim - Why US Muslims are abandoning Harris with Sami Hamdi

[@ramstrong1961]

The Grayzone - Liam Cosgrove goes off on State Dept spox

[@brandonjosephmarcum]

We can invent more as we find them and rename them. No worries. You might be projecting. Idk.

[@diosamurcielaga9418]

insects?!

[@jean6453]

Invent insects? What are you talking about?

[@steve-xx6or]

Geoengineerjng and 5G

[@TheKhalipha]

More worried about humans disappearing in wars

[@jamesp3022]

Earth's magnetic field is weakening and shifting as it dose cyclically... Is a contributive fackter to life on earth. Some say major

[@asnark7115]

Same result, different path. People will survie wars, not continued or near total loss of insects.

[@stephenprescott397]

Why say that? Can't you just listen to a fascinating but frightening interview with an open mind? There are dozens..hundreds of podcasts on the horrors occurring in the numberless conflicts happening now and barely any highlighting this incredibly important to.

[@parallaxview2143]

This bloke should come to my house. As soon as i open the back door, every insect wants to come in for a look around. I literally can't move for the bastards.

[@S-Ltd1000]

🤣🤣

[@Bluepillphil-d1w]

Yep. That’s reality. This guy is living an environmentalists depression non reality

[@gangadharhiremath7306]

America,west and their military agent Israel may misunderstand the title of this video to that of Gaza babies,Children,women and Palestinians in general.

[@S-Ltd1000]

They're being harvested for food.🙂

[@jansasak39]

I'm sorry, but the idea about fish Aron? How silly is that? I'm all for not eating fish being vegan for 7 years, but how on Earth will everyone give it up just so that 11% of rich assholes can continue to fly? Make it fair for everyone and maybe there would be a sliver of hope.

[@DandelionGum1]

What? You are framing this as a false dichotomy. We have to do all of these things, cut down on animal agriculture, cut down on air travel, and leave fossil fuels in the ground. We need to do all of this. People reducing animal agriculture doesn't give people a warrant to fly. What does though, is making appeals to futility as you are doing right now "what's the point of doing x if people also do y?". Stop giving people license not to care.

[@SkyNet-T-1000]

The biggest insect is the Human & the sooner we make ourselves instinct the better!

[@stephfoxwell4620]

No.

[@AloysiusHettiarachchi]

Interesting discussion, but it confines only to the point of view of a biologist from the begging to the end. In my view the decline of insect population started from the day the Germans invented the internal combustion engine. When an old car starts in the visinity of my house I see a flash in my cctv screen. That means it sends out an EM wave strong enough to disturb the laser beam coming to the cameras that give me the picture. The bees find the direction to where the flowers are by using earth's magnetic field. The man made wifi and other em waves for our mobiles affect the magenic field and disorient the bees. This not only affect bees but also other insects like fireflies etc. Have your children seen fireflies. They were everywhere where I live about four decades ago, but seems to have gone extinct. These waves affect humans too. It seems the strong signals from 5g even reduces the sperm count of men. Perhaps this may be a reason for reduced birthrate in developed countries. To cap it all the german engineers have successfully developed the neuclear fusion. This will gradually kill all from the planet earth.

[@Crypt4l]

bump

[@Henbot]

His exercising son seems like he will have protein supplements. You need protein to function and grow muscles

[@AtheistEve]

There’s plenty of protein in plants for your average person.

[@Vaushgg]

Personally. I wouldn't miss insects. They are disgusting.

[@simoningate2056]

No pollinators (whether you like them or not) - no food for us.

[@ohmikesroh5904]

Worry more about fellow humans, not insects.

[@sososoprano1]

If the insects disappear we will too.

[@sprsmoke]

Insects are nicer.

[@jean6453]

Do you not understand how we depend on insects for our own survival?

[@donahboddami]

I don't understand how the supposed more intelligent species (us) still do not understand how this planet works. ​@sososoprano1

[@donahboddami]

​@jean6453 clearly not. Humans putting themselves above nature is why we are in this mess

[@goinblinddoggone]

I have a rich environment in my garden, until this year it serves as a feast for all kinds of insects. So few butterflies this year and of course variety depleted for decades, but the lack is deeply concerning. Lots of things still manage to survive, but it's a massive loss of habitat out there and far too much disrespectful attitude to nature by the capitalist system they insist on perpetuating 🫣