Could Reform Cost the Tories the Next Election?

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Had Reform UK stood aside in the recent by elections, it's likely that the Tories, the party could have retained both seats. In this video we explore Reform UK's identity, policies, and potential impact on Rishi Sunak's electoral chances.
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@lordyrich
@lordyrich 6 ай бұрын
The Tories will cost the Tories the Next Election
@tinylittlebabybat
@tinylittlebabybat 6 ай бұрын
cant believe i just spotted a bulldog fan in the wild
@lordyrich
@lordyrich 6 ай бұрын
POGCRAZY@@tinylittlebabybat
@alansmithee419
@alansmithee419 6 ай бұрын
The Tories have cost the Tories the next election.
@user-fv6sq1wh9j
@user-fv6sq1wh9j 5 ай бұрын
The Tory Voters must NOW Vote for Reform Party. The Tories have let the UK down
@robh7671
@robh7671 5 ай бұрын
The Tories have let the UK down, Oh Yes but also they have killed many People. If anyone wants to live the living Hell next year (Please do vote for The Tories
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson
@DarrenJamiesonJamieson 5 ай бұрын
What have Reform Party ever done for Great Britain then (Widdecombe and Faberage both voted for The Euro), and are only stopping themselves being sent abroad (from whence they came), by making a cheap buck via the media?
@user-oo6br4nh2l
@user-oo6br4nh2l 5 ай бұрын
It will but the sunak and his band of lying -cheating conmen and women have helped with there mismanagement of the country
@brianwayes3536
@brianwayes3536 5 ай бұрын
And the result will be………Tory Mk2
@paulsmusic2908
@paulsmusic2908 5 ай бұрын
@@brianwayes3536 You don't know that, thats just your opinion. I'm not saying you are wrong but you cant claim it as true. Personally I think anyone would be an improvement on what we have currently
@crazy-diamond7683
@crazy-diamond7683 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't just Tories that voted for Reform there are a huge amount of digruntled red wall voters too.
@Muzakman37
@Muzakman37 5 ай бұрын
..who have soured on Brexit and are ready to head back to a more moderate Labour party.
@markperrin8098
@markperrin8098 5 ай бұрын
​@@Muzakman37Yougov research shows that only 18% of Brits think Brexit is still a priority issue for the UK. • The most recent parliamentary petition for rejoining the EU was finally closed after six months, having only managed to attract a meagre 1,362 signatures. • The most recent parliamentary petition for rejoining the Single Market closed after six months, having only managed to secure a meagre 3,596 signatures. • The Rejoin EU Party didn't bother to stand in 2 out of 3 recent by-elections. The one by-election the Rejoin EU Party stood in, saw it win a humiliating 0.3% of the vote, with 105 votes, being beaten by count binface who got 190 votes. The rejoin the EU march in central London barely had three thousand lunatics turn up, down from 50,000 in a march shortly after leaving.
@steveatkinson689
@steveatkinson689 5 ай бұрын
@@Muzakman37 Yeh right the child rape apologist and enablement party !!!
@steveatkinson689
@steveatkinson689 5 ай бұрын
Garbage !
@steveatkinson689
@steveatkinson689 5 ай бұрын
@@markperrin8098 Great posting spot on !
@barryhardman8102
@barryhardman8102 5 ай бұрын
Sadly we now can clearly understand what is coming and reform seriously represent the only alternative to the complete loss of our country.
@henryam503
@henryam503 5 ай бұрын
Loss of our country to what?
@animeswitch
@animeswitch 5 ай бұрын
conflicting cultures that wash our way of life away. No other country on the planet you would want to see a replacement of culture, so why is it ok in the UK?@@henryam503
@dave710
@dave710 5 ай бұрын
​@@henryam503 Islam!
@thomaschampion6444
@thomaschampion6444 3 ай бұрын
​@henryam503 immigration , we are being invaded , have you seen our city's? London where I live has been lost for some time , we the brits are a minority here
@AthelstanEngland
@AthelstanEngland 5 ай бұрын
Vote Reform, don't be scared by the idea that Labour may win, because they are just the same tired old self-serving uniparty as the Tories. So vote for the policies you want, vote with your conscience. Vote Reform.
@MrJonezy541
@MrJonezy541 5 ай бұрын
"I hate brown people" being the policies?
@alansalter1836
@alansalter1836 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely right if we don’t vote reform will always be wondering it’s reform all the way for me now 👍
@striderwhiston9897
@striderwhiston9897 5 ай бұрын
I'll vote labour and be glad we aren't being controlled by the fascist tories or reform.
@user-oo6br4nh2l
@user-oo6br4nh2l 5 ай бұрын
I was going to put a comment on f,b, but then thought ???what's the point of wasting time on a party of pillocks
@yy17782
@yy17782 5 ай бұрын
How about no. 🤡
@ashleyfunnell9132
@ashleyfunnell9132 5 ай бұрын
I'll probably vote for reform. So will many others, but this will undoubtedly lead to labour taking over. May God help us all!
@tman8897
@tman8897 5 ай бұрын
Maybe so but we’ve had 13 years of the Conservatives and they have betrayed us. We cannot vote for them again
@moreplease998
@moreplease998 5 ай бұрын
The last Labour government was better than this string of Tory government and the Tories before them. We saw better wage growth in general though they still continued the trend of neoliberalism that is the real problem we're facing (which Reform are saying they plan to continue) and the way the war in Iraq was handled was a total disaster. Comparing the headlines regarding scandals and general disgruntlement that occurred in the Labour period to the headlines regarding the things we've been putting up with under the Tories doesn't half give the feeling that we aren't recognising how good we had it. It's like comparing complaining about a leaky tap to complaining about half the house having collapsed
@ashleyfunnell9132
@ashleyfunnell9132 5 ай бұрын
@@moreplease998 you have a warped view of history. National debt went from 40% to 80%. We went into an illegal war in Iraq which majorly destabilised the middle East and destroyed millions of lives. Just two of several problematic consequences of the last labour party we still struggle with today. The labour party today is in an internal battle with Communists, blairites and the woke liberals. Their policies will be divorced from reality, long term the economy will suffer and debt will rocket.
@ricky7o588
@ricky7o588 5 ай бұрын
Would you even notice the difference?
@ashleyfunnell9132
@ashleyfunnell9132 5 ай бұрын
@@ricky7o588 probably not tbh
@paulmartin6249
@paulmartin6249 5 ай бұрын
The tories are virtually the Labour Party. Reform is truly a party for Conservative minded.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 6 ай бұрын
I doubt it. I really don't think the Tories are going to need any help at all losing the next election. In watching how they've been preparing for it, I have every confidence they'll do a smash-up job of it all on their own.
@bigbarry8343
@bigbarry8343 6 ай бұрын
the move to scrap inheritance tax below 2 mill will certainly win many votes. this could be a master stroke.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 6 ай бұрын
with 4% of the electorate? and those are only the ones who have done no planning at least half could avoid IHT if they tried so not a vote winner especially as it will feather Sunak's nest to the tune of 1/2 a billion@@bigbarry8343
@giaimojessica
@giaimojessica 6 ай бұрын
Agree with you
@GenjiShimada.
@GenjiShimada. 6 ай бұрын
13 years of sub 100 IQ rule. Can't end fast enough
@m4yh3m121
@m4yh3m121 6 ай бұрын
Inheritance tax doesn't impact the majority
@JosephineRoberts-qn3wn
@JosephineRoberts-qn3wn 4 ай бұрын
My whole family are now voting REFORM , it’s a MUST
@cobbler40
@cobbler40 4 ай бұрын
What exactly are you voting for ? Do you believe in authoritarianism and dictatorship of the wealthy ?
@moreplease998
@moreplease998 4 ай бұрын
MORE neoliberalism!?
@gogglescot4226
@gogglescot4226 3 ай бұрын
Are you not sick if the Tories yet? Why vote in Tory 2.0?
@ThatTallGuy0
@ThatTallGuy0 3 ай бұрын
@@gogglescot4226 Tory’s and Labour are the same, nothing will change with either in power.
@canisiuszharare1797
@canisiuszharare1797 3 ай бұрын
@@cobbler40yes
@bonnieo910
@bonnieo910 5 ай бұрын
Yes I believe Reform will and can stop the rot in this country.
@yy17782
@yy17782 5 ай бұрын
Deluded 😂
@bonnieo910
@bonnieo910 5 ай бұрын
@@yy17782 You won’t be saying that when they win. It’s you who’s delusional.
@maccagrabme
@maccagrabme 5 ай бұрын
@@yy17782 You are deluded if you are going to waste a vote on liblabcon, dont say you werent warned.
@capnjackgallows3204
@capnjackgallows3204 4 ай бұрын
​@@yy17782deluded? Then please guide us what's your fucking alternative?
@yy17782
@yy17782 3 ай бұрын
@@maccagrabme I am not the kremlin brainwashed nutter here
@inkanfung7964
@inkanfung7964 6 ай бұрын
The real question is how the hell are there still people voting for Tories at this point?
@blackbaron0
@blackbaron0 6 ай бұрын
There will always be some. Just like there were for Jeremy Corbyn in 2019.
@inkanfung7964
@inkanfung7964 6 ай бұрын
@@blackbaron0 its like still voting for Biden when he gets lost on stage smh...
@someguy-eh9mg
@someguy-eh9mg 6 ай бұрын
I have tried to answer this. In my head there is a large portion of the UK population that votes tory by default. They look for reasons to not vote for anyone else. It doesn't matter what the tories do. They will get the vote unless the opposition is foot perfect. So they drag up starmer didn't answer this one question in an interview last year in a way I liked. Can't vote labour. Tories literally have made decisions that have killed people to enrich themselves but that 1 question last year from starmer means I can't vote for them. Some other people are just brainwashed ans will spout eternally "iT wOuLd bE wOrSe uNdEr lAbOuR" no matter what the circumstance.
@Infinitystar225
@Infinitystar225 6 ай бұрын
​@inkanfung7964 it really isn't. Presidential elections only have two options, whereas over here, we have many more.
@petermelang6695
@petermelang6695 6 ай бұрын
​@@Infinitystar225Um in most constituencies while on paper more than two there are only two choices which really matter thanks to UK's garbage voting system
@regarded9702
@regarded9702 6 ай бұрын
If you want what the tories traditionally sell then Reform UK is probably your best option. For instance, if you want immigration seriously slowed or stopped then you probably aren't going to trust the people who have been failing to do so for 13 years. Reform UK could do some serious damage to the conservatives here.
@wakey87
@wakey87 6 ай бұрын
I might vote for them because the Tories have blown it. We need someone not scared to rock the apple cart.
@TedJM
@TedJM 6 ай бұрын
@@wakey87 I think i will as well, Labour and Tories are too stuck on the fence uhmming and arring about everything. I don't really care who gets in, I just want a party that will actually do stuff, not just talk about doing stuff.
@rojiblanco299
@rojiblanco299 5 ай бұрын
​@@TedJMSorry to disappoint but if Reform somehow get a hold of this country, I highly doubt anything will change in regards to unprecedented immigration. Just look at Italy. Nothing has changed.
@gogglescot4226
@gogglescot4226 3 ай бұрын
They are conservatives you fool 😂
@ThatTallGuy0
@ThatTallGuy0 3 ай бұрын
@@rojiblanco299 yeah because the European courts of human rights keep sabotaging there plans to stop illegal migration.
@richardmabe4186
@richardmabe4186 4 ай бұрын
I see Reform as the only Conservative party in the UK today. Reform will make a good show in the next election. If more people get to know about them they will get in power one day.
@user-wl9gw7xe2q
@user-wl9gw7xe2q 6 ай бұрын
The idea that reform voters would just vote for tories is pretty questionable - lots of them hate the tories as much as left wing voters. They’re populists and despise the establishment, and they view the conservatives as complicit in it too. If they’d endorsed the tories it’d just undermine reform and leave even more disenfranchised right-wingers
@Vandel96
@Vandel96 6 ай бұрын
Lets be real, many of them are voting reform because they dont see enough white people in government positions. Its just racism.
@danh9905
@danh9905 6 ай бұрын
I thought the same. Had reform not stood, I imagine the Tories would benefit most, but how many would be too fed up to vote Tory (as they should be) and vote for another party or not at all
@amh9494
@amh9494 6 ай бұрын
I've seen many people say they used to vote Tory but will vote reform, often it will be a protest vote.
@Luke-vb3yl
@Luke-vb3yl 6 ай бұрын
A lot of Reform voters are actually working class northerners - so come from a traditionally Labour background. Considering this, I do find it hard to believe that if Reform wasn't an option that Reform voters would just move to the tories en masse.
@Luke-vb3yl
@Luke-vb3yl 6 ай бұрын
The question is how many people answering Reform in the opinion polls will actually turn out to vote for them - instead of saying they will as a protest. Evident by Reform's poor by-election results throughout this parliament, the answer so far appears to be not many.
@Lifesgood427
@Lifesgood427 5 ай бұрын
I am voting reform along with thousands of others, we know that to get a seat in parliament is nigh on impossible, but, we can deliver a bloody nose to the incumbent scoundrel’s , Reform all the way!
@ManGoatHamburger
@ManGoatHamburger 3 ай бұрын
The incumbent scoundrel’s what?
@Mark-iu8mr
@Mark-iu8mr 5 ай бұрын
When you see people who were born here sleeping in tents and washing in public toilets says it all ,IL be voting for reform with out a shadow of a doubt
@oldproji
@oldproji 5 ай бұрын
I'm a long-standing Tory voter, 80 years old. No longer will I give my vote to a Party that disrespects the voter. Labour Party, never. My vote goes to the Reform Party.
@user-ej9qe4me8v
@user-ej9qe4me8v 5 ай бұрын
Vote REFORM spread the word 👍🏻🎄🥂 merry Christmas
@deedeysel7502
@deedeysel7502 5 ай бұрын
I hope Reform Party scores really big in the next election !!!
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 6 ай бұрын
They won't cost the Tories the election, because that would imply that the Tories would have won without their intervention. They might be the difference between, say, 150 Tory seats versus 125.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 6 ай бұрын
Reform has zero chance of getting many seats!
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 6 ай бұрын
@@polaris7122 Oh yeah they won't get any seats themselves but it's whether they act as a spoiler vote
@y8fpe
@y8fpe 6 ай бұрын
The title is clickbait
@bernardm2528
@bernardm2528 5 ай бұрын
It very much depends on the British public and the silent majority of how they vote. There is already a big momentum and shift towards The Reform party. So the opportunities are there, if the Labour voters who voted Tory instead vote for Reform? Is both the Labour and Tory voters vote for Reform, and if the Reform voters vote for Reform anyway there would be a big shift towards Reform. After all why would anyone vote for Tory or Labour as both are broken and offer no solutions to fixing Britain and the important issues that need fixing. If it is already broken and just more socialism and globalization, then you can't fix it, just vote Reform instead for real change.
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 5 ай бұрын
@@bernardm2528 However much you say this, Reform are still stuck on like 5% in the polls. It's just really, really, really hard for a new party to make a breakthrough under FPTP, as Alba and The Independent Group (among many others) have discovered in recent years.
@davidyare8465
@davidyare8465 5 ай бұрын
I have always voted Conservative but never again as the difference between them and Labour is wafer thin. I hope we move in the same direction as Holland and as they say on the parade ground eyes right.
@spiderfandom7592
@spiderfandom7592 5 ай бұрын
fascist
@dannynicholson6014
@dannynicholson6014 5 ай бұрын
​@spiderfandom7592 oh shut up 😂 everyone sees through people like you now
@terrylear4219
@terrylear4219 5 ай бұрын
Why Fascist?.
@robc1014
@robc1014 5 ай бұрын
@@spiderfandom7592its not intelligent or productive to just throw random buzzwords at people that dont share the same opinions as you. You should try actual discourse and fair discussion and if at the end you still disagree then it is what it is and democracy settles the rest.
@dave710
@dave710 5 ай бұрын
​​@@spiderfandom7592 Why fascist???? I take it you are poorly educated! Grow up!
@peterteagleteagle9958
@peterteagleteagle9958 6 ай бұрын
The tories are finished,and the thought of Labour getting in power,is frighting
@mrsentencename7334
@mrsentencename7334 5 ай бұрын
Scary times. I think this could be it for the uk in terms of this peace time invasion that’s currently being pushed by the globalist cabal
@maccagrabme
@maccagrabme 5 ай бұрын
Reform it is if you want a country left.
@razor2ts
@razor2ts 6 ай бұрын
I will not vote for the Tories in a long long while, Labour isn't much better! Reform has my vote all day!
@anthonymarch-ti1fq
@anthonymarch-ti1fq 5 ай бұрын
Reform are a breath of fresh air, unlike the rest of the rubbish you can vote for in todays Britain.
@pearceburns2787
@pearceburns2787 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Tories ending their premiership the same way they started; suffering at the hands of the spoiler effect from First Past the Post
@wakey87
@wakey87 6 ай бұрын
it's always the same, they say they want to change the voting system until they get in, then why would they change it.
@goosebump8722
@goosebump8722 5 ай бұрын
Vote Reform ✊️
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 5 ай бұрын
I have a question. And please correct me if I am wrong... if you KNOW the answer for sure! but if we leave behind the law of human rights for stronger immigration, wont that also mean WE are giving up our human rights too? It's a law that effects everyone isnt it? You cant pick and choose who gets help and who doesn't. It's all or nothing! The right to medical care when sick? The right to an education? The right to having a roof over your head? I really am asking. Does anyone know the defo answer to this? is this price worth paying or are we once again just playing into a con of the powerful just so they can take away ever more from us? I am concerned? How can anyone think losing humans rights from ANYONE, no matter who they are, is a good idea?
@goosebump8722
@goosebump8722 5 ай бұрын
@glazierblue573 it's not anti immigration, it's controlled immigration we need, I'm saying this as a son of immigrants
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 5 ай бұрын
@@goosebump8722 well that is a relief to hear... but I dont see how abolishing human rights as a good thing and any situation. That is one of the "promises" the tory and reform Britain is saying and sorry, this is a good thing?
@THTB_lol
@THTB_lol 2 ай бұрын
@@glazierblue573well it's a good thing for the bank accounts of tory donors
@glazierblue573
@glazierblue573 2 ай бұрын
@@THTB_lol yeah... they dont need anymore help. They never did but get it all anyway.
@jonathanrae6917
@jonathanrae6917 5 ай бұрын
This party needs to be more proactive in being known. So many people do not know about Reform UK.
@THTB_lol
@THTB_lol 2 ай бұрын
oh people know about them, especially when they make statements that indicate they want to destroy human rights
@richiesquest3283
@richiesquest3283 6 ай бұрын
Myself and my family are all voting Reform UK
@GarySteed-me9bx
@GarySteed-me9bx 4 ай бұрын
We can only hope so. Myself and my whole family are voting for REFORM UK. ITS THE ONLY WAY ,WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE VOTE !!!!!!❤
@lilboy3102
@lilboy3102 4 ай бұрын
Yes, Reform UK can stop the Tories and even Labour !!! If the people vote for them ! 🇬🇧 There are problems with both the Labour and Tories. A vote for the country ❤ Reform UK 🇬🇧
@user-rq5sd1sq8o
@user-rq5sd1sq8o 5 ай бұрын
The fact that people are still even voting conservative is absolutely wild to me
@paulph12002
@paulph12002 4 ай бұрын
As bad as the last 13 years of Tory rule have been they will seem like the good days after a few years of Starmer's Labour.
@kennethmaley2443
@kennethmaley2443 4 ай бұрын
OR LABOUR MORE ULEZ. MORE 20 MPH .MORE 15 MIN CITIES OPEN BORDERS JUST LOOK AT WALES AND LONDON TO GET FEEL HOW LABOUR WOULD BE IN GOVERNMENT VOTE REFORM UK.ITS THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE THE UK.
@user-fv6sq1wh9j
@user-fv6sq1wh9j 5 ай бұрын
I've been a Tory Voter all my life NOT anymore. VOTE REFORM
@royrj5517
@royrj5517 5 ай бұрын
Sunak don't need Reform to get rid of him, he's doing a pretty good job of it himself.
@gunark
@gunark 6 ай бұрын
Lower taxes AND zero waiting lists?? That’s some Truss level of accountancy there. Might need some of that tax to pay for things such as the magic vouchers to get those waiting lists down. Altruism isn’t a noted attribute of the private health sector. See also: USA.
@draco84oz
@draco84oz 6 ай бұрын
Their policies don't have to make sense - they know they're not going to get in as the majority, so the policies are populist just to try to drag votes to their side. Maybe they'll get into a coalition government and get a few of their top priorities in, but mostly its just so they can get the votes and thus get that sweet public funding money and pensions for life.
@swanchamp5136
@swanchamp5136 6 ай бұрын
Don't worry, they are going to give you a voucher for it 😂 so instead of paying £12000, you pay just £10000 😂
@googane7755
@googane7755 6 ай бұрын
We tried Truss and it didn't work, what makes them think being even further right will solve the economy?
@CrackaPackify
@CrackaPackify 6 ай бұрын
​@@googane775550mg of deludamol
@hubertcumberdale6221
@hubertcumberdale6221 6 ай бұрын
"We're not like these whacky pinko commie trot snowflake lefties, bankrupting the country and making you have less money in your pocket. Anyway, we're going to lower taxes, and pay for more things with taxes. We see no problems with this."
@PabloTBrave
@PabloTBrave 6 ай бұрын
The torys arent right wing anymore struggling to be centre right in almost every area . There is very little difference between tory party and starmers labour party both based on the blair years ideology
@kindmulberry7196
@kindmulberry7196 6 ай бұрын
The Tories are the most right wing I've seen them in decades
@Morbing_Time
@Morbing_Time 6 ай бұрын
What are you smoking
@LOLquendoTV
@LOLquendoTV 6 ай бұрын
Least delusional reform voter
@lukefleetwood7958
@lukefleetwood7958 6 ай бұрын
The Tories are barely right wing, you and the 2 commenters below are probably so far left you don't even realise what is right anymore. High taxes, lax immigration and border control, obsessiveness with the NHS etc.@@kindmulberry7196
@PabloTBrave
@PabloTBrave 6 ай бұрын
@@kindmulberry7196 either you are very young or your eyes are shut . Around the Blair years both parties essentially used the same centralist policies with only minor deviations. In historical terms the conservative arty are still far more left wing than the average .
@colinlawless5654
@colinlawless5654 5 ай бұрын
If a few big hitters from the Tories defects, they could be the next government.
@Bad_Gnasher
@Bad_Gnasher 5 ай бұрын
Tories are all cowards
@ricequackers
@ricequackers 6 ай бұрын
It's quite a stretch to assume Reform voters would have picked Tory if Reform stood down. Far more likely to spoil their ballot or vote for another minor party, because punishing the Tories for their broken promises is the point. Reform for their part intend to stand in every constituency. But ultimately this just underscores the need for proportional representation in elections, given how ridiculously skewed and unrepresentative the current parliament is when compared to actual votes. Problem is that the only two parties that still back FPTP are the two that benefit the most from it, having ruled the country as a duopoly since living memory.
@CTCTraining1
@CTCTraining1 6 ай бұрын
Can’t you make the same argument with the Lib Dem’s dropping out to help Labour win?
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial 6 ай бұрын
And the conservatives dropping out to help labour win too?
@petermelang6695
@petermelang6695 6 ай бұрын
You could but then again Tories probably would have won if Reform had dropped out.
@Veemo590
@Veemo590 6 ай бұрын
Really surprised how much farage is still popular. After pushing brexit so much and then disappearing from the immediate consequences the average person had to deal with.
@salkoharper2908
@salkoharper2908 6 ай бұрын
Some people like a scoundrel. I don't get the appeal either. It's one thing to have your political beliefs, I can respect someone who has opposing views to me. But he is just a dodgy dealer though. The kind of man that would be selling cheap perfume, liqour and cigarettes from the duty free if he was not in politics. I don't get the appeal of a crook. Working class are hardly the hardest group to trick though in poitics. Tories managed to do it for 13 years to them.
@paulsmusic2908
@paulsmusic2908 5 ай бұрын
I trust Farage, right or wrong hes never waivered
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 6 ай бұрын
Assuming they get Ferrage leading them (not unlikely) they could do well. UKIP previously got 13% of the popular vote. That’s with tactical voting going against them. - they genuinely could overtake the tories.
@lemonynora
@lemonynora 6 ай бұрын
100%
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 6 ай бұрын
Reform also took a lot of Red Wall Labour voters.
@stantorren4400
@stantorren4400 6 ай бұрын
I will not allow one reform vote
@mildlydispleased3221
@mildlydispleased3221 6 ай бұрын
The Tories have too much control over the media and most voters aren't clued-up enough to orchestrate nation-wide tactical voting.
@harrypainter7472
@harrypainter7472 6 ай бұрын
It's always been a bit of a myth that UKIP voters were all former Tory voters. When the UKIP vote collapsed in 2017, the Tory vote went up 5.5% and Labour 9.6%.
@rufioh
@rufioh 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, if we switch to proportional voting, or maybe 2 round run off voting for each constituency, it could probably stop the Tories moving ever more right wing/populist, and they might have electoral chances again.
@shivanshna7618
@shivanshna7618 6 ай бұрын
What exactly is right wing left wing from british view? I have idea about USA and India but never thought about UK side
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 6 ай бұрын
​@@shivanshna7618Right wing in US is crazy and extreme
@tpkapp
@tpkapp 6 ай бұрын
That might be true but at the same time, the outright majority will be unlikely under PR. We have to go through the post-election nightmare of the Tory in negotiation with the Reform of forming a coalition government. That makes the policy move rightward anyway.
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 6 ай бұрын
@@tpkapp It won't be as most smaller parties like Sinn Fein, Plyd Cymu, SNP, Greens and Lib Dems are left wing so Labour will always have their support
@regarded9702
@regarded9702 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@shivanshna7618the right wing is socially conservative with a decent amount of christian/religious values but just to nowhere near the extent of US conservatives. For instance, abortion is not really an issue for UK conversatives. Economically it's a mixed bag, your average tory voter (right wing) loves the NHS (free at point of service healthcare) but would probably prefer lower taxes. Usually sees poor people as a victim of themselves rather than a reflection of something larger, so isn't super big on social welfare but nowhere near as individualist as the US Repulican Party.
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 6 ай бұрын
So Tice is basically Trussonomics + culture wars?
@Anthony-xd1lj
@Anthony-xd1lj 6 ай бұрын
and we have not had a culture war for the past 20 years
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 6 ай бұрын
Tice is more like [Milton] Friedman than Truss since Mary Elizabeth only wanted tax and not also spending cuts unlike Mr. Tice
@lukefleetwood7958
@lukefleetwood7958 6 ай бұрын
We've been in a culture war for more than a decade. The left keep denying it's existence because they are terrified that they will lose it once everybody realises what is going on behind the scenes in society.@@Anthony-xd1lj
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 6 ай бұрын
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials to be honest, I am not sure which variant is more irresponsible and horrible, the infinite borrowing and money printing, or the cuts to already overstretched services!
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 6 ай бұрын
@@markwelch3564 Well not everyone is opposed to cuts in services, not least cutting the financial blackhole of the NHS, cancelling HS2 and even spending cuts to education.
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore 6 ай бұрын
Every vote the Tories gain on the far right is likely a vote they lose in the centre. And there's only so far they shift to the right before each vote they pick up starts to cost them more than one vote in the centre as they become less and less palettable to more moderate voters.
@iambicpentakill
@iambicpentakill 6 ай бұрын
I would have thought that about the US a few years back too, but it hasn't been the case
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore 6 ай бұрын
@@iambicpentakill The Overton Window in the US is quite different to that in the UK and Australia. That's part of the reason why.
@covfefe1787
@covfefe1787 6 ай бұрын
@@TheKazragore dont worry it will shift to the right 6 months after Labour victory look whats happened in Germany after a Center Left victory and the AFD being almost wiped out to polling consistently for months at 20% a record high. it will be similar for Reform polling consistently at over 10% enough them to win a handful of seats in the North during the first round of by elections after Labour landslide win.
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore 6 ай бұрын
@@covfefe1787 Because the unwashed masses would rather allow themselves to be made afraid than have to think for themselves.
@alansmithee419
@alansmithee419 6 ай бұрын
@@iambicpentakill UK culture is entirely different to US culture, especially when it comes to things like partisanship and religion in politics. UK voters switch parties much easier than US voters do, and generally UK citizens dislike both major political parties at any given time. It's nothing like the cult-like following people like Trump, Gaetz, or Shapiro have in the US. Rishi Sunak doesn't have many fans. Keir Starmer doesn't have many fans. They're politicians, and UK citizens don't like politicians.
@oeljayinclairsay7776
@oeljayinclairsay7776 5 ай бұрын
Why should any “third” party stand aside for one of the two outdated and overly similar major parties?
@jmiller7209
@jmiller7209 6 ай бұрын
Not even a left/right thing I just think 600k net migration is absolutely unsustainable so I will probably end up voting Reform because they're the only party talking about the issue.
@LOLquendoTV
@LOLquendoTV 6 ай бұрын
I would ask you to consider why it is you think that, where that number comes from, why it is that the media hyperfixates on the issue and whether or not it is factually and statistically a problem and why, even if it might go against your own intuition which is not reliable (not just yours, no one's is, we must ascertain the truth through enquiry and science because our intuition is very frequently wrong)
@nothereandthereanywhere
@nothereandthereanywhere 6 ай бұрын
Considering there is over 1million vacancies, the immigration would be welcomed. If you still believe the dream that staff shortages will solve the issue, I have a bridge to sell you :)
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 6 ай бұрын
​@@LOLquendoTVwell we're building more houses and we have a below replacement fertility rate. Plus, go to any town centre or city and you will see for yourself. Your argument would only work on someone who hasn't actually lived in the UK for decades and seen the changes for themself.
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 6 ай бұрын
@jmiller7209 well the Tories do talk about it but achieve nothing. I'm actually quite leftwing economically but I will likely vote for Reform UK on this issue.
@jeongbun2386
@jeongbun2386 6 ай бұрын
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@matthews8580
@matthews8580 5 ай бұрын
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@stdavidboy
@stdavidboy 5 ай бұрын
There are NO tories in the conserative party any more? Everyone I know are voting Reform, it's time for change?
@elitet3359
@elitet3359 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely and I urge Tory and Labour voters to vote for the Reform Party. If you want more of the same old same old BS then continue to vote for the Cons or Lab but if you REALLY WANT change then take a risk for change and vote for the Reform Party - give them a chance!
@leemurphy1978
@leemurphy1978 5 ай бұрын
VOTE FOR REFORM UK.!!!😊
@TheTTTTC
@TheTTTTC 6 ай бұрын
The assumption in this theory that all of reform's votes fully transfer to the tories really does let it down and could use some more exploring. Whilst they ideologically lie on the populist right of the tories, its probably also fair to say that they also serve as a protest vote against the main parties as well. So the conclusion that reform cost the tories these elections relies on a number of other assumptions - 1. That if reform didn't stand, their voters would still vote, 2. That if they didn't stand and endorsed the tories their voters would follow them and not for example vote for other protest parites or independents on a similar policy platform, and 3. That if assumptions 1&2 are met, enough voters do so to make the difference (e.g. for mid-beds you have to have an 80% conversion rate of reform voters to tories for the tories to then win). Otherwise, a very good video - hadn't heard a lot about reform's policies before - very useful!
@petergroverd6626
@petergroverd6626 5 ай бұрын
The real truth is the Tories are voting themselves out by their total lack of understanding the publics concerns. Also all the backstabbing will lose them the biggest majority for a long time.
@Doogie2K3
@Doogie2K3 6 ай бұрын
In case you're curious, Farage has a bit of history with the name Reform Party. See, back in the UKIP days, he envisioned UKIP starting out by challenging and defeating the traditional Conservative Party to a non-trivial extent before merging back in and pushing the Tories firmly to the right. He would use the tradition of the Tories to push his own agenda, in effect. His model for this was the Reform Party here in Canada, which splintered from our Tories in the 1980s on a populist right-wing platform, captured a large vote share, especially in the west, then merged back in the 2000s to create our modern, much more right-wing Conservative party. While UKIP didn't manage its entryist goals as such, Farage himself has succeeded more generally in pushing the Tories right, not just on Brexit but seemingly in general.
@boosterhuiz2779
@boosterhuiz2779 5 ай бұрын
......succeeded in pushing Tories to the right? Tories are in the centre now, looking more like the Labour party
@simonm9097
@simonm9097 5 ай бұрын
Reform needs more exposure
@AdamWebb1982
@AdamWebb1982 6 ай бұрын
Why is it right wing to have borders?
@Anthony-xd1lj
@Anthony-xd1lj 6 ай бұрын
that is the issue, we will have the labour left who opened the borders in 1994 moaning and whinning we need open borders to make us seem less racist
@AdamWebb1982
@AdamWebb1982 6 ай бұрын
@@Anthony-xd1lj and now the tories want open borders for cheap (slave) labour.
@arpandas2243
@arpandas2243 6 ай бұрын
​@@Anthony-xd1ljKeep Whining Labour government incoming facts don't care about your feelings 🤡🤡🤡
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 6 ай бұрын
It's much easier to have borders when you are an island. 😄
@Anthony-xd1lj
@Anthony-xd1lj 6 ай бұрын
@@soundscape26 but that is not what the left doesnt want the more people they bring into the UK the chance labour will left will get into power
@roycampbell5605
@roycampbell5605 6 ай бұрын
What will cost them the election is people who previously voted tory won't bother to vote because they have been badly let down by the governments inaction on immigration ulez etc etc etc.
@Chris1553
@Chris1553 5 ай бұрын
They've got my vote !!
@lemonynora
@lemonynora 6 ай бұрын
I think if farage takes over they’d do pretty well as I imagine a lot of right wingers are fed up with the constant infighting and chaos from the Conservative Party
@nathanmajor6886
@nathanmajor6886 6 ай бұрын
They are also sick of anything that isn’t white straight and british 😅
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 6 ай бұрын
The organizations that had Farage as their leader were also known for their infighting and chaos, even featuring fist fights causing real injuries up to people passing out.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 6 ай бұрын
that means fromage would have to come up with some ideas rather than just moaning about what other people do.
@user-gd1yg6le1h
@user-gd1yg6le1h 6 ай бұрын
You think it mess now that fool well be careful,
@hugodrax71
@hugodrax71 6 ай бұрын
So if the Tories would do well with Farage, why aren't Reform - with Farage - winning any by-elections? I'm not sure about this mammoth Farage popularity. He's tried seven times to become an MP and failed every time.
@tyranitararmaldo
@tyranitararmaldo 6 ай бұрын
Cost? No. They have already lost. Make it worse? Oooooh yes.
@TheUnatuber
@TheUnatuber 6 ай бұрын
Oh, I don't think the Conservatives have to worry about *Reform* costing them the general election! The voters of Britain, on the other hand. . .
@flappetyflippers
@flappetyflippers 6 ай бұрын
I find the fact that Reform UK are so concerned with electoral reform and House of Lords reform very confusing to me personally. I never really expected to agree with Reform UK, but here we are.
@alzo1sgood
@alzo1sgood 6 ай бұрын
Never mind next year. We need an election now. If rishi continues to cling on. I think we the people of the uk need to force his hand.
@RedJadeArt
@RedJadeArt 6 ай бұрын
Saying that the entire Reform U.K. party will just happily pack itself up and be subsumed by the Tory party is like saying you expect a socialist candidate, and all their followers, just just happily go along with voting for a Liberal Democrat candidate if that’s the best placed candidate in their constituency. If reform voters were happy with getting Tories, they would just be Tories. But clearly Tories are disappointing people on their right as well as their center
@joeboss1750
@joeboss1750 5 ай бұрын
I for one will be voting Reform. Time to push the old timers out to pasture, put new blood in the seat. The Reform will romp into power!
@JD-wf2hu
@JD-wf2hu 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if labour is funding reform. It would make sense. If only we had a referendum on changing the voting system to stop this sort of thing, if only....
@leonardbenzies6374
@leonardbenzies6374 6 ай бұрын
First Past the Post Voting is WRONG, means only TORY or LABOUR can get in.
@susan9188
@susan9188 5 ай бұрын
No they are not.
@_MrMoney
@_MrMoney 6 ай бұрын
Everytime this topic pops up I'm remembered of David Cameron's words: "vote UKIP and you'll get Labour"
@someguy-eh9mg
@someguy-eh9mg 6 ай бұрын
Vote labour and you get snp. With a photo of milliband in the pocket of sammon.
@alansmithee419
@alansmithee419 6 ай бұрын
He was so close to realising we should have PR.
@_MrMoney
@_MrMoney 6 ай бұрын
@@alansmithee419 well, he did approve a referendum to get rid of FPTP and adopt alternative vote. Although probably the LibDems are more to thank in that regard than Davey
@michaelsnodgrass9742
@michaelsnodgrass9742 5 ай бұрын
By voting for Reform could definitely put the disastrous Labour into power. People must remember that seismic events have taken place during the Tories time in govt ,Brexit, Covid, Ukraine war, Hamas/ Israel war. Whatever govt was in power they would've struggled. Labour would've been a lot worse believe me. They sit on the fence and flip flop depending on hindsight which is a lot easier .
@bluepurgatory2927
@bluepurgatory2927 5 ай бұрын
Both the Tories and Labour are responsible for the demise of this country. Blaming recent events has nothing to do with it.. Anyone voting for the two party cartel are the problem.
@davidgardiner4720
@davidgardiner4720 Ай бұрын
Reform, a party with easy answers for people who don't understand the question.
@pauldog
@pauldog 4 ай бұрын
I find it genuinely concerning how many people are voting for such an extreme right-wing party... I wish it was easier to leave the country, as I'd love to escape this place before it gets worse...
@richardjames3022
@richardjames3022 6 ай бұрын
No, the Tories have already lost the next election, so will cost the Con's a few seats at best. If Reform UK stand down in some seats to help the Con's, will people trust them in future not to always step aside, also their natural, older generation, voters will be reducing in numbers?
@debbietaylor5183
@debbietaylor5183 4 ай бұрын
Im of a younger generation will be voting for them
@AlfPi_YT_Productions
@AlfPi_YT_Productions 6 ай бұрын
the title implies the tories will win next election if reform doesn't exists xddd
@heisenbachofficial9437
@heisenbachofficial9437 6 ай бұрын
"Could Reform cost the Tories the title 'Leader of Opposition' "
@stantorren4400
@stantorren4400 6 ай бұрын
@@heisenbachofficial9437Oh hell no, NOBODY WANTS THAT
@emib6599
@emib6599 6 ай бұрын
​​@@stantorren4400it happened in Italy, France, Netherland, Czech, Slovakia, Poland (ok it happened in 3/4 of Europe) It's happening in Germany, Spain and Portugal that were some of the last exception. When a normal historical party collapse completely the a small neo fascist party became the new main opposition, or the government. So for Reform to make the Tory disappear completely would be the most european thing that UK could politically do now.
@sanich0811
@sanich0811 6 ай бұрын
Neo-fascism will never be popular - it is an outdated ideology from the industrial era and is at least 50 years out of date. On the other hand, nationalists with socialist economic specifics would be helpful@@emib6599
@THTB_lol
@THTB_lol 2 ай бұрын
@@emib6599 ironic, considering reform's stance on europe
@Megamush707
@Megamush707 6 ай бұрын
People are not going back to the tories. They can say all they want, but they have lost all trust.
@susancurtis1651
@susancurtis1651 4 ай бұрын
Yes REFORM could and will. VOTE REFORM EVERYONE. !
@SRFriso94
@SRFriso94 6 ай бұрын
I mean, yes, the Conservatives lost by a margin that Reform UK would have given them, if all of those voters would have voted Tory instead of Reform, had Reform not stood. But that's a pretty big 'if'. There is almost certainly a decent percentage of people protest voting against the Tories, so without Reform, they might have voted something else like an independent, or just not at all. Consider that in Tamworth, with Reform and Conservative votes added up, they would have had a margin of 57 votes. That's not much.
@KevTheImpaler
@KevTheImpaler 5 ай бұрын
Yes, they would probably not have voted at all, or spoiled their ballot papers.
@dankit2548
@dankit2548 6 ай бұрын
This assumes that every person who voted reform would vote tory if reform didnt stand. That just isnt an assumption you can make. See how many UKIP supporters had histroically voted labour or refused to vote for either of the big 2, because they oppose "the establishment". By-election turnout is also very low, so in these two cases the percentage for reform is artifically inflated. Come general election time, there will be 20%+ more people voting and those voters will skew more towards the 2 biggest parties - by-election voters are the most politically engaged and more likely to vote for a smaller party as a result. The more interesting story here is the role of the lib dems in bringing down the tory vote in mid-beds, not the role of reform, who might not even manage a full slate of candidates at the next general election.
@LewisTcakes
@LewisTcakes 5 ай бұрын
It's not hard to beat the tories on conservative politics when the tories aren't conserving a single thing.
@A_Saban
@A_Saban 6 ай бұрын
interesting, would you consider making a video covering the UK politics? I don't know as much as I would like
@MarkPTP7000
@MarkPTP7000 6 ай бұрын
After the previous election, it's not hard to imagine this party would just capitulate at a general election to tactically let the right wing vote be consolidated, just like Farage did last time.
@MarkPTP7000
@MarkPTP7000 6 ай бұрын
To be more specific, I don't think they would capitulate at times when it's likely Conservatives will lose the general election, instead using those chances as an opportunity to grow and become more influence. But, at a time when them standing down would let Conservatives win, they probably would, to prevent left wing parties winning.
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 6 ай бұрын
The main problem is that Reform UK leader Richard Tice does not want to work with any of the "right wing" parties such as UKIP or English Democrats and have instead chosen to solely work with the SDP in an electoral pact unlike UKIP leader Neil Hamilton that has managed to form an electoral pact with English Democrats, Reclaim Party and probably others as well. Therefore, unless everyone on the "right" votes for Reform UK, that will mean that Labour will win by default since Liberal/Green/Labour voters are willing to tactically vote for other parties while Conservative voters will just not vote at all (I am refering to die-hard party voters, not swing voters)
@goskiing1410
@goskiing1410 6 ай бұрын
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials Richard Tice has made his position very clear - It's Reform or Nothing. A bit of pragmatism and bringing in the other Right Wing Parties would win him a lot more Voters. But he categorically said Andrew Bridgen MP would not be welcome in the Party due to his views/facts on Covid Vaccines and lockdowns. If Reform can't allow critisism of a vaccine, there's no way they'll ever actually stand up for free-speech or British Citizens in the face of corporate media pressure. I think Swing Voters are deciding between Conservatives and Labour (for the most part), anyone who looks further into politics and understands how left-wing the Conservatives have become are not interested in voting for them, but equally, see nothing in Reform to get them out to vote either.
@AthelstanEngland
@AthelstanEngland 5 ай бұрын
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials agreed it is a bad strategy. They need to combine as a proper party of the right in fact. And I agree with the OP that Farage made a big mistake stepping aside last time.
@kimwit1307
@kimwit1307 6 ай бұрын
I've seen many complain about how 'left wing' the tories are. Seriously. I recently asked one of them what 'left' policies the tories had the last 13 years. It's been days and I'm still waiting for a response...
@wakey87
@wakey87 6 ай бұрын
Boris was all very Green, I guess that could be a left wing thing.
@kimwit1307
@kimwit1307 6 ай бұрын
@@clambert608 Ah, but those things did benefit the right wingers, so they do not want to shine a light on that too much...
@CptMark
@CptMark 6 ай бұрын
Boris' Corona policies was left wing interventionism at it's finest.
@matthewthesaladbowl6315
@matthewthesaladbowl6315 6 ай бұрын
well the current tories are still pretty "left wing" economically, with boris and rishi favouring high taxes and high spending which are traditionally labour policies. Truss was the only recent tory pm that was economically right wing. Same could be said for cameroon because of his austerity measures but that was in response to the financial crisis so it's hard to judge
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 6 ай бұрын
Well the modern "Conservative" party since at least 2010 has been the continuation of Tony Blair & Gordon Brown policies, just without ID Cards but much more immigration.
@peterbergman2131
@peterbergman2131 5 ай бұрын
If you don't vote Labour you are voting Conservative. The two party system is a closed shop.
@glyngreen538
@glyngreen538 6 ай бұрын
This is wrong as it assumes Reform voters would switch to the Tories but in actuality only a minority would. I saw a poll of Reform voters linked to not that long ago and if they weren’t an option for them to vote for on election day a majority of their voters either wouldn’t vote or would vote for parties other than the Tories. Also it’s looking like Labour are on course to win the general election regardless of what Reform does, though they could help get them some more MPs.
@Jonas_M_M
@Jonas_M_M 6 ай бұрын
You have said enough.. finally a party which actually wants to privatize healthcare! (in-part)
@davidyare8465
@davidyare8465 5 ай бұрын
The NHS is already privatised for example all GP's have a contract to provide services however the stupidity of it is they are also in the NHS pension scheme and we tax payers contribute 14% of certain fees and allowances toward the inflation proof pension.
@user-wl4cl1ph3b
@user-wl4cl1ph3b 5 ай бұрын
Not long ago Farage begged the Tories for a ministerial type job when he wasn't even a elected politician which sums up the sort of bent politics in Britain when it comes to getting paid in free taxes ??
@indefatigable8193
@indefatigable8193 6 ай бұрын
I just think this is something merry middle England wonders about. Working England in the north is wondering where the hell their high speed train is.
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 6 ай бұрын
Assuming that their voters took their advice is a big assumption. Everyone declaring online to vote Reform and urge others to vote for Reform that I have seen basically also declare that they'd never vote for the Tories. It's quite likely that they got those votes simply because they stood, and those are not transferable to the Tories.
@debbietaylor5183
@debbietaylor5183 4 ай бұрын
I would vote reform not necessarily because of tories but they stand for every single policy I wish to be implemented in current government
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 4 ай бұрын
@@debbietaylor5183 Reform will not implement those policies.
@GaiusSonofGermanicus
@GaiusSonofGermanicus 6 ай бұрын
Every vote the Tories might gain by pandering to Reform voters would cost them more in the political middle, which is where elections are won or lost. I don't think there were huge numbers of Tory voters who stayed home in Tamworth and Mid Beds because the Conservatives aren't being right-wing enough.
@Samjiri
@Samjiri 5 ай бұрын
As a former tory voter, if there is no reform candidate then i am not voting for anyone
@debbietaylor5183
@debbietaylor5183 4 ай бұрын
I won't be either if reform doesn't participate
@VOGTBIGART
@VOGTBIGART 5 ай бұрын
This is the only party which will repair England ..vote for Reform..
@samueldurston7328
@samueldurston7328 6 ай бұрын
Reform growing as an alternative to the Tories will split the right-wing vote and thus make even more seats likely for labour to win. But as said in the video, there is only so much we can say from bi-elections. The Tory / Reform voters may be very aware of this themselves.
@etrs
@etrs 6 ай бұрын
As a more right-leaning person I can say that I'll probably vote for reform or some other third party, since a tory or labour win is a loss either way. Can't entirely speak for anyone else though
@OliverFlack69
@OliverFlack69 6 ай бұрын
I’m guessing you’ll vote tories 😂 it’s literally labour but ok 👍
@goskiing1410
@goskiing1410 6 ай бұрын
We are fully aware of this - And we hate Rishi Sunak and the wokist, left-wing, globalist policies of the last 13 years SO much that we are not willing to forgive - Especially the immigration/multi-culturalism mess-up. That means we don't care if Labour get in at the next Election, because we fail to see how a Conservative Government would be different to a Labour Government a this stage - To us, it just looks and feels like a Uni-Party. When someone comes along saying they'll scrap Net Zero, Change Benefit Laws to disincentivise Migration + provide business regulation that favours small business creation and a healthy free market economy - We'll vote again (Around 2040, after the default crash of the 2030s, I reckon...) For now, we'd rather just moan about people openly calling for Jihad on the streets of our cities, and the Corporate Cronyism posing as a Capitalist Democracy that we currently inhabit. And Reform, ahahaha. How are they going to change ANY of that?!?
@benfisher1376
@benfisher1376 5 ай бұрын
​@etrs I agree. I'm actually economically left, and culturally conservative. But mass immigration is a problem imo
@AthelstanEngland
@AthelstanEngland 5 ай бұрын
If Labour get in we won't notice any difference so the scaremongering of don't vote Reform because you'll just let Labour in doesn't wash with me. Vote Reform.
@billycairns5365
@billycairns5365 5 ай бұрын
We live in hope just hope they take votes from the LABOUR PARTY
@maccagrabme
@maccagrabme 5 ай бұрын
This wont be what Labour expect.
@markthorne5025
@markthorne5025 5 ай бұрын
The Tories are done.They don't need anyone they have done a great job by themselves.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure the Conservatives Party now wants STV voting.
@benloconnor1990
@benloconnor1990 6 ай бұрын
There was not a UK general election in 2016😢
@kevinh4869
@kevinh4869 6 ай бұрын
Tice is right, the tories do nothing but promise and never deliver. There's always someone or something we've signed up to that apparently prevents us from doing anything that the people want. We're sick of it
@mitchellplunkett2715
@mitchellplunkett2715 6 ай бұрын
Thats wild that the UK doesnt have preferential voting
@colinmelling6369
@colinmelling6369 5 ай бұрын
If you adore this country then you should vote reform. Time to have our say .
@emilymcplugger
@emilymcplugger 6 ай бұрын
Reform council seats - 0. Labour council seats 2000 plus Green and Lib-Dems 2000 or so. Reform can be really damaging to the conservatives. When TLDR are falling down the same mistaken eco-system it says all you need to know about why our politics is so bad.
@chrisnettleship4331
@chrisnettleship4331 6 ай бұрын
Under PR Labour would end up with 230 seats, Tories 190 seats, Lib Dems 70 seats, Reform 40 seats, Greens 38 seats, SNP only 20, Plaid Cymru 12, others 50 between them.
@Sofus.
@Sofus. 6 ай бұрын
My experience People don't stop choosing far right parties just because right wing parties become more right wing. It has the opposite effect, more people become interested in far right parties and their viewpoints and they choose the original over the knockoff😮‍💨
@joey1317
@joey1317 6 ай бұрын
Just as Tony Blair reformed Labour to make them more electable, the Tories need to do the same. The tories need to be seen as a party for working classes. They need to ditch their traditional “being a party of the rich” image.
@squizza28
@squizza28 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be funny if the Tories got re-elected despite Sunak's best efforts to carry out WEF orders to lose the election!
@kemmar
@kemmar 6 ай бұрын
Answer == no they're just an excuse to allow the crazy branch of Tories to get what they want
@mindblower8774
@mindblower8774 6 ай бұрын
The good thing they will just split the vote in favor labor. I just hope starmer won’t the labor leader in the next uk election
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