Couples Therapy | Breakthroughs and Breakdowns from Season 4 | SHOWTIME

[@jolondaruss2308]

The poly couple is ridiculous! This guy found two ladies with severe self esteem issues and he is playing 'Puppet Master" with them. I'm glad the counselor was able to call him out on his BS.

[@ntombi-yensimbinarrates7297]

Absolutely. They should comsider dissolving their situation. I am still learning about poly relationships, but I can tell that the guy is trippin

[@rk6032]

Absolutely. I actually am poly, and I was like, I DO NOT like this guy. He does what some people in the poly community derisively call "emotional libertarianism" -- I can do whatever I want, and you can have whatever feelings you want, but your feelings are not my problem. The two women should dump him and find a kinder person to be with.

[@jojomarch]

When he started his speech on how his emotional abilities were good and he understood why women's often weren't oh my...

[@andredwalker1720]

You only see a snippet of this so Josh looks like a jerk, but you guys have to see the season.

[@sopranosd]

Yeah, he's a ridiculous, man-splaining egomaniac, and both of those women are allowing themselves to be used. It's gross. Please tell me they leave him! And he uses 'prescribe' incorrectly. He means 'subscribe' but of course the point for him is to sound smart rather than to speak plainly. Oops.

[@smnx127]

It’s videos like these where I’m grateful to be single.

[@Lehmann108]

A master therapist at work. So nice to see.

[@Ladybird.21]

I love seeing her dynamic and sessions with her own mentor too, showing her own struggles with navigating clients with really complex relationship issues and dynamics.

[@kadyelizabeth8680]

The guy in the troupe is insane!!! These girls need to run

[@jenniealarid1421]

They most likely have their own relationships outside of him. It sounds like their relationships together with him have the issues because of his own time management and respect. Sounds awfully complicated

[@DanielPereira4444]

@@kadyelizabeth8680 where can I watch this ?

[@DanielPereira4444]

@@kadyelizabeth8680 where can I watch this

[@kadyelizabeth8680]

@@DanielPereira4444 I use watch series stream but be careful with viruses and pop up ads! I haven’t encounter any problems so far and it’s free. Enjoy!

[@EstrellaO-2023]

top-notch DENIAL

[@tarabryant2233]

The smirk on the face of the guy while his partner was crying with the last couple was heartbreaking to see.

[@gojogeto2840]

watching their story was heartbreaking seriously

[@tarabryant2233]

​@@gojogeto2840I'm working my way up to that season... I gotta stay off KZbin 😊

[@melissap9051]

I came straight to the comments to see if anyone else noticed this!

[@totsh2056]

I have to say this therapist knows what she's doing.

[@pippiecarr9378]

Yes, she does.

[@magayakimade]

Josh is giving cult leader vibes. Trust your gut ladies. Nothing about this appears like you are enjoying this arrangement

[@ABooTubeProduction]

OMG was just about to comment this! He is a narcissist, you can tell. He's a wannabe s*x cult leader!!

[@pam0626]

Totally agree. I hope these ladies watch this and realize they are being played.

[@racheller8753]

I love when a person is actually interested in working on themselves and the relationship!!

[@teetee74122]

I feel like the body language of the poly couple shows exactly how he feels about each partner. He's making physical contact with one and not the other

[@boomerbutler7569]

As a therapist, I can say that Dr. Guralnik does amazing work on these shows, and I wish some of my clients would even view them. Keep up the great work Dr. G.

[@soxpuff]

8:49 Relationships are challenging, so let's add other people and components to challenge it even further.

[@dumfriesspearhead7398]

I get tired just hearing about it.

[@AerrinT80]

Poly relationships are so damn complicated. I wouldn’t last a week being in one.

[@birdiewolf3497]

I am way too lazy to be doing all that.

[@e.m...]

men who want that are porn addicts and are delusional about what they deserve or even need in real life. mwn lie, humiliate, cheat, gaslight, and arw simply fake fuks all the time. none of them deserve 1, let alone mpre than 1 woman at a time.

[@princepeterwolf]

Call me square but I still don't understand poly relationships

[@Ricoque-u2m]

From my experience they’re the behavior of l o s e rs with attachment issues.

[@ntombi-yensimbinarrates7297]

You and me both. The insecurity is madness.

[@momo33727]

this!!

[@Lilacwinedine]

Its just a way for people to f around without real consequenses... Maybe they have difficulty with attachment... A lot reasons but i dont think anything to do with being a free spirit or something positive

[@AerrinT80]

Same.

[@julie5668]

I would like to see some of these therapy sessions through to conclusion, not just a window on their problems

[@PrairieDawnC]

You need to watch the entire season of Couples Therapy. In reality, they get 18-20 sessions and we do see conclusions.

[@zairehaylock4974]

I love Dr. Orna.

[@BM__8]

I love her perspectives and curiosity toward how her clients are feeling/experiencing. She’s a good therapist.

[@zairehaylock4974]

@@BM__8 I wish I could meet her in person.

[@Cindy12345ful]

@@zairehaylock4974I met her in person at an event! So cool to hear her speak

[@jenniealarid1421]

I’m so close to getting a showtime subscription lol

[@magayakimade]

Me too. I binged a season on a flight.

[@Sophie-fi6dm]

"Relationship Anarchy" 😂 This guy!! They all use annoying and unnecessary words to basically say "I want you to spend more time with just ME!". Relationships aren't for everyone, and certainly not for him

[@a.r.8954]

Breaking down the oppressive tenets of patriarchal monogamy is interesting and important, but it doesn't work if the guy insisting he represents relationship anarchy is actually a relationship fascist in disguise ;)

[@monicag5571]

This was a good season! I would like a follow up to the couple current relationship status dating back to the first season

[@kellymaps8128]

The women in the ridiculous “polyamorous “now realize that they both want monogamy and not actually share a man that decides who gets his attention this week. Mind you we can actually physically see he’s more into one than the other.. so why keep that masquerade going ?

[@razmiddle9410]

Why? Because he gets companionship, emotional intimacy and sex while his preferred girlfriend isn't around.

[@SteadyruReady]

I notice that with polyamorous relationships when it’s a man and more than one woman, other women observing the relationship tend to opine about the man being self centered or manipulative or selfish. I really wonder if the situation was reversed and it was one woman and more than one man, would women have the same observations about that polyandrous woman. And please don’t retort by saying “well there are no 1 woman, 2 men throuple because there are.

[@MK7x77]

Not me being a gluttonous psychotherapist watching these. I just had a thought..my career will never be replaced. As long as the world needs real human interaction to help with real life emotions and communication nothing artificial or robotic will replace me. ❤

[@JB-yw9zw]

poly but jealous like a monogamous couple. Makes no sense

[@sarahkottke676]

Monotonous monogamy?

[@millie9814]

They don't really seem to care that much about each other, the 3 of them. That's probably common in these kinds of relationships. How could you? Btw, this guy looks lethargic, depressed and stressed, and the women look sad and hurt.

[@JB-yw9zw]

@@sarahkottke676 lollll yeah. crazy typo

[@diamcole]

From what I've heard and seen, jealousy is expected because it's a human emotion but the reaction to it is "supposed" to be different. Like, it's a valid feeling but not necessarily the responsibility of your other partner(s). It seems like a lot to me.

[@sardarje3096]

It sound that the guy is not cut for polygamy

[@gojogeto2840]

this show is so incredible

[@tgrant6518]

The last couple I feel won’t make it. It’s hard to come back from throwing low blows at one another. Unless they don’t consider name calling and violence a low.

[@benjamingardner3314]

The guy embracing anger can turn it around, he's aware he is on a destructive path, but change is terrifying, even for the better.

[@SuperChava28]

Also kind of feels like because he doesn’t have his family around that he is trying to sabotage his partner having family around out of jealousy.

[@lj7152]

I know everyone is commenting on the throuple, but I was bothered by the first couple. Eliana was trying to communicate how she felt alone, and Mitch took over the whole conversation, made it all about his own loneliness, and then made Eliana out to be the root of his problem and why he stays away.

[@lexifresh1552]

Was searching for this comment so self-centred! He made it all about him

[@22221mm]

The guy in the throuple is horrible

[@SamStone1964]

Well he's gay so it's horrible he's stringing along two delusion women.

[@jsimms4292]

They’re all silly tbh

[@pam0626]

Love how she makes mincemeat of his argument.

[@andredwalker1720]

I saw the comments, and while Josh can be a jerk I feel like this snippet doesn't portray their issues well. The girl on the right is Josh's anchor partner. She introduced him to being poly, and it almost felt like because she traveled with the circus (or whatever) for work, she kind of used being poly to have a good time. Now she's done traveling and wants to settle in, but he met the girl on the left, and really likes her. The girl on the left is used to having a rhythm with Josh because while she is his only partner outside his anchor, the girl on the left is actually in other relationships but they don't show those people because it isn't about them.

[@SamStone1964]

Josh is gay. Everything discussed is a moot point.

[@jsimms4292]

It all seems a bit ridiculous.. 3 different people having their cake and eating it too?

[@Eli-hd1yo]

@@jsimms4292tbh I think it’s cool. People cheat on their partners all the time, this way it’s out in the open. If you want to be a hoe , you can do it nicely lol 😂

[@sallyhemings2295]

@@jsimms4292CAKE 🍰 is DELICIOUS 😋

[@MargauxNeedler]

With Rex & Joey... I wish as a teenager i had had someone to tell me about getting creative & expansive about the idea of sexuality not always meaning climax or penetration. So, wow. The ppl around me didnt ever give me clue that sexuality expressed differently was ok. At one point i described myself as on the asexual spectrum and was criticized & demeaned for it. Same as when i didnt feel comfortable wearing a swimsuit without being more covered up with shorts or a pretty see-thru shirt on top of it

[@amlandeperse8106]

For the polyamorous couple 👉 You wanna make this fair(?) I propose we allow the women to have "relations" with other men on an intimate/continuous basis... 😌 And then let's see how Josh feels...

[@kweenz600]

Both women have other relationships with different people.

[@sirmadam8183]

They need to dump him. He's a sociopath. Watch the whole show.

[@walidahwalker9008]

Such a great concept and show!

[@arieslady021]

The "thrupple" doesn't make sense to me.

[@Lipnl]

Joshlighting

[@psmith3821]

I’m screaming 😂😂😂

[@Lipnl]

@@psmith3821😂😂

[@katwhy]

Hahaha, thrupples! You think you're being dynamic and liberated but truly you're just doubling down on the complexities of what it actually means to be in a functioning relationship.

[@dom.your.demons]

Ah yes. Anchor Partners. The strongest kind of situationship

[@TheCherb19]

Poly relationships are so amusing to me. It’s so clear that most men in these relationships want to have their cake and eat it too. they have little emotional intelligence and little to give ANYONE, so the little they do have, they stretch between multiple people. Then they struggle more with jealousy, resentment, reduced quality time etc trying to meet the multidimensional needs of women. Then they add more people in the mix to occupy their dissatisfaction with each other. Lord help them lol.

[@phoebeel]

Sometimes I think that poly guy who are hetero are really just in it for more attention and babying. Rarely, I see a FMF relationship that seems healthy. They're all still so deep in heteronormativity that it's basically just a glorified harem. Poly probably works if you have a woman in the middle or a real queer relationship between three people - either with lesbian women or queer men. Because they don't use the female partners as ego boosters.

[@stop08it]

It’s funny how it’s supposed to be trendy in the west or US but I grew up outside the US and I know family members who came from polygamous homes and they were ALL disasters!!!! It only benefits one person

[@phoebeel]

@stop08it polygamy is something else though. It's inherently about one man owning several women. Polyamory is different, it's about relationship anarchy and having multiple partners. Every person in the relationship has multiple people or at least the opportunity to have multiple people. The power isn't centered on one person

[@laneystrahan]

This poly guy likes to use big words to get his way. These girl need to get away fast.

[@biba350]

Subscribed love this series Brilliant

[@talkindurinthemovie]

I'm married--and I believe in marriage as an institution but BREAK UP. For the love of Jesus

[@chavam6329]

The poly couple look like siblings does anyone else see it??

[@razmiddle9410]

Poly people often look similar - there's a softness and pastiness to them.

[@StephanieS3062]

Is there a new season coming??!! Orna I am ready!!!

[@omayraortiz3946]

I love this show. ❤

[@jupiterchild3848]

Poly is exhausting 😮‍💨

[@catherinn.951]

the poly couple confirmed that i do not have any interest in this lol Sounds miserable to deal with more drama than needs to be. Everything is done half a$$. Not worth the energy.

[@blkluvchnl]

I’m not polyamorous, but people are coming for them like couples don’t have the most f*cked up relationships too lol

[@VermillionRii]

I know right? Poly isn't my thing, Josh was a cool guy and was respectful of both partners .

[@karimcisse05]

This man said I want the anger 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@pam0626]

I don’t understand poly relationships. Two people get screwed-literally and figuratively-at the expense of a third.

[@jojomarch]

Anyone know if/when series 4 will be available in the UK?

[@khrisdavis1944]

Get that vpn young blood

[@dumfriesspearhead7398]

It's on BBC iPlayer now.

[@jojomarch]

@@dumfriesspearhead7398 omg thanks so much! Just in time for the weekend :D

[@jstjohn7590]

This is such a good show. So interesting.

[@InkedLoisLane]

Sounds like in the poly...those two do NOT want Erin around lol

[@thesmileyeffect]

9:57 Relationship Anarchy?!?!?! What???

[@paired.together]

6:52 what exactly was he implying? How does that help resolve their "thrupple" issues? Ridiculous clown.

[@vanessasempireoftwigs198]

all these people here complaining about poly and i’m sitting here thinking how anyone is in ANY type of romantic relationship with even one person 😂

[@ritaarthur9682]

Wondering if it's not possible for one of this 2 ladies with 1 guy find a nother partner for themselves.

[@mapulemampuru6584]

Both of them need to go

[@jsimms4292]

They’re all greedy tbh

[@carilendrum9794]

How do I watch this from The beginning - in order and full episodes?

[@kweenz600]

Showtime via Paramount+

[@DanielPereira4444]

@@kweenz600 And where can I watch it for free

[@SianieElizabeth]

@@DanielPereira4444if you are in 🇬🇧 BBC iPlayer

[@karenmossbryan7932]

Somebody that you used to know

[@mosibudiratlebjane6717]

What do I need to do to what the season…. I’m from SA and our cable tv is still sleeping… someone help me!!

[@Pice4830]

How do you get to a point of marriage and kids knowing you have no adult social skills or don't feel safe with your partner?

[@CHASEONLYME]

The last couple i don’t like together. The one with the short hair was smiling when his partner was clearly hurting and he likes the toxicity. SMH move on

[@pauloforever12]

i think it stems from them having different relationships with their family even though both their families are very abusive. the other one has anger that cant be shared with the other because he doesn't like conflict

[@MelissaRae1975]

I want to binge seasin 4

[@Hina749]

If I were the woman I would leave this poly couplehood behind. Run girl, run.

[@DanielPereira4444]

Can someone tell me where can I watch this free?

[@louiss1625]

fmovies

[@valdelarocha]

Why is this nowhere else but in the US and UK available?!! Come on!!

[@stop08it]

um 🏴‍☠️

[@livingnow7017]

These woman need to see their own value and not depend on that from a man!😮

[@vince1276gshxks]

where can i see the whole full episodes

[@itumelengtshoane9717]

Co-asking

[@tiffanigray4885]

I watched on Amazon

[@marriejames01]

Paramount trial and binge watch it.

[@piercefiction]

Polyamory and psychopathy tend to go hand in hand.

[@sirmadam8183]

Yup. I'm watching the entire episodes and I'm getting sociopath vibes. He has all the signs. Plus I noticed he gaslights and never takes ownership for his mistakes. He portrays himself as the victim each time. Huge indicator.

[@Caymond]

Why do the two of three have matching outfits?

[@elephant2072]

I'm being genuine here... Can someone explain WHY poly couples want to add *more* people to the mix? Isn't relationship with 2 people deep and complex enough? I just don't understand. Also, I've never seen a poly/open relationship that looked like it worked

[@sardarje3096]

At 😂this point just be in an open relationship

[@notyourmanicpixie]

Just because you've never seen it, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. None of these people are being honest with themselves. If everyone is being open and honest and real, it looks very different.

[@SamStone1964]

It's just a way of avoiding connection.

[@bugsybrown1745]

You can avoid deepness by mainly focusing on how much time you get with each person (it’s usually not enough). You can also lower your standards for what you want in one partner and seek what they’re lacking by adding another. Personally, ‘dating’ is easier. You are open about it and they don’t get details or meet each other.

[@therealsandraweise]

Girl you are secondary. Actions are a language.

[@ashleyaniton2684]

Ohhh Alexes scares me!

[@RaTtattatata]

Polyamory functions very subjectively, like Ik it’s case to case HOWEVER if everyone in the dynamic can’t hang out or it’s not the norm for then to all be together, it can become very unstable and lowly disconnected. But that’s j my experience ✋😬🤚

[@carolineholden6921]

Oh gawd. The guy in the poly couple. 🤦Run girls, run fast and far away.

[@deathgame2166]

The jungle - Movie Name

[@sirmadam8183]

Josh: I just read the news report about your fire in the Santa Barbara Independent. You violated the law. You trespassed and started a fire. Your campfire went up to 3 feet. Not once did you show remorse on the show. Even today, you show no remorse. You act is if you are the victim. Perverse. Grotesque. Not once, do you show any remorse. The veil comes down. We all see who you are: a Sociopath.

[@nuranur4093]

There are 3 people on the sofa? 🧐

[@ABCD-si7px]

I don’t understand fighting over a low quality man.

[@july713x3]

Yeah the throuple gave me a headache.

[@AyandaLembede]

just finished watching season 4 and omg i literally could not stand the poly couple. idk why. i usually find poly couples very interesting and love hearing about their experiences but this particular couple had me yawning and zoning out whenever they made an appearance. apart from the fact that Josh kinda sucks, they were just so boring. i had to skip through most of that. anyway, i really enjoyed Rex and Joey's moments. they're such a cute and complex couple and I really wish they got a bit more screen time. i hope they are able to work through their issues and i'm genuinely wishing them all the best.

[@SamStone1964]

Maybe because Josh is gay so there's no intimate connection with either woman.

[@audreydupuy2628]

Is this reality tv?

[@zipporahp.30]

I don’t understand being poly. I feel that your relationship with your partner should meet certain needs and your relationships with friends should meet certain needs so if you’re poly or exploring outside of monogamy it’s pretty much just about sex and attention. No wonder why there is a strong correlation between narcissists and polyamory :/

[@julie15957]

Well damn.

[@rhodesthompson-chase1851]

I don't like Josh

[@kaykaymcgee]

Josh is weird lol. His eyes are demon eyes

[@lorib6582]

Josh is odious.

[@billwhite5011]

As a specialist working with couples, I find the therapist's skills to be sorely lacking. I'm shocked that some people commented that she's good.

[@PrairieDawnC]

Have you watched the entire season or just these highlights?

[@billwhite5011]

@@PrairieDawnC I've only watched what's available on youtube

[@yogini3274]

You need to watch the whole show, not just snippets. I’m a therapist too and she is phenomenal with her clinical and interpersonal skills.

[@billwhite5011]

@@yogini3274 Possibly. I already saw enough that I wouldn't recommend her. If what she does works for you, that's what matters.

[@SpunkeyMonkeyJess]

Ugh. That polyguy is playing those two girls so hard. I feel so bad for them. I can't watch The Show anymore. I'm out.

[@MrYougotcaught]

dude is working overtime to maintain a polyamorous relationship. it's so much easier to just focus on one. Trying to maintain relationships with 2 very different personalities is stressful. And to the Gay couple, dude in the white sweater thrives on his anger to make his partner miserable. He's a toxic Psycho that needs to divorce and seek help with his underlying issues

[@AnotherGuyInJapan]

Had to skip the poly romance one, it just didn’t make sense to my life. No place to empathize , just “ohh.. hmm…”

[@lealovestechbooo]

the poly couple sounds ridiculous

[@Rhiles44]

The Throuple couple has to be a joke

[@andreajohnstone8991]

im sorry poly relationships really hardly work.. get out why are you doing this to yourself.. i feel troubled childhood... trying to mend their childhood issues, everyone unhappy here.

[@LI-pm3mh]

6:46 This therapist is wrong here

[@RiverTwice]

I disagree. I won’t go so far to say he’s a narc, but he’s sooooooo handcuffed by his terminal uniqueness. He’s super manipulative, not that aware of his own misogyny, and Lorna’s just not letting him run over her too.

[@BlueGreenTea]

Hmmm I think if you are dealing with someone pathological and you have a history of being gaslit it’s a different situation, you need a timeline, but ultimately when it’s not about establishing patterns of behaviour, in relation to ‘character’ , I don’t think it is important because you end up debating the peripheral and he seems very comfortable in his head so I think she made the right call.

[@kweenz600]

What do you think she did wrong?

[@madelinemiller5871]

Polyamory is so dumb and lost

[@DReardon-hq2vb]

Wow, this guy is a narcissist and this "Poly" relationship is nothing more than a 3 year old's playpen for him.

[@racheller8753]

The couple of three perplexed me?? He's gay ,right??

[@stop08it]

Could be bi

[@benjeberkeley9660]

A man with two women who’s not very manly and just plain annoying by most standards is baffling to me. Why, just why? Would a woman go for him, let s alone two women?! 😂

[@dani-ol5xb]

Josh is super manipulative

[@justineplemons7585]

Oh ok. They are in a relationship with a cult leader.

[@vivdoolan6846]

We are so progressive and liberal having our poly relationship but we are just doing word salads trying to make it work for all of us. Quit it already ,

[@gigistrailsandtales7203]

He’s a narcissist.

[@Dorothyredshz]

Josh seems to thrive on the attention .....and conflict that two women are in conflict over him ....🫡

[@Ricoque-u2m]

Also, he seems zesty.

[@ntombi-yensimbinarrates7297]

Accurate read.

[@AerrinT80]

Agreed.

[@jessicataylor7914]

Yes, dude is creeping me out.

[@cocot9414]

Josh needs to find 1 woman who wants the same things as him. It's like these women are pieces that he is trying to make a whole with..one woman is stuck in trauma that prevents her from making plans, the other has a career that keeps her away and another lover....I mean this is just a drawn out break up.

[@sleepyjoebiden2756]

Imagine paying money for this...

[@cl3165]

Josh is bad news. I get the ladies are emotionally tied to him however, I hope they give themselves a pass and leave him. A red flag for me was when he said, ‘It mattered to him who started it…beginning of the friction.’ He cares more about pointing the finger and finding blame rather than focus on mending each other’s hearts.
He doesn’t care about these ladies. He gives the ick! He says the right things to go over the hump, throws in stereotypes of socio and culture to sound peudo-wise and mask his real intentions, manipulate to have his cake and eat it too.

[@sirmadam8183]

Watch the full episodes. He's prob a sociopath.