Delphi Murders Deep Dive | Vinnie Politan Investigates

[@CourtTV]

#CourtTV - What do YOU think? MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/delphi-murders/?

[@Monica-hv4rf]

Can you do a poll? Im interested to know how many of your followers think "the bridge guy" is Ron Logan VS the accused?

[@jeromegarcia5396]

The bridge guy video DOES NOT PROVE bridge guy is the suspect, The girls could have filmed the guy, and he could have kept walking past, that is just a possibility as bridge guy being the one, it's amazing that everyone is so smart on this case but you're using the most ridiculous things that are facts in a double capital crime, that make no sense at all and add the unconstitutional actions of the court and LE and that is worse than the actual crimes because they stolen justice for two victims and that will not come back... We assume Richard Allen as guilty, but we can confirm the constitutional infringements by law enforcement and judge Gill, that is fact, more fact than claiming bridge guy is the actual suspect... Crazy thing is I'm not smart, I'm just a parent and I loathe judge Gill, she's a disgusting creature who has made a mockery of justice because she's not the trier of fact, the jury is...

[@Donna-l3b]

I think they were sacrificed to Odin. I'm not sure about Richard Allen's guilty or innocence, but I don't think this was done by just one person. I also think that the sketches are the same person. They have the same eyes. I think the first sketch is mistaken about the age of the suspect.....I forgot his name, but I think the first suspect is one of the guys involved. The bridge guy called the accomplice and told him to meet up at the location of the murders.....(I know a retired police captain who worshipped Odin! I actually lived with him, just as house mates - in central/southern PA, for almost two years. He showed me what is really going on with the cop/Odin connection.).....

[@gibbo822]

​@@jeromegarcia5396 Bridge guy took them off the bridge ffs wake up muppet

[@gibbo822]

​@@jeromegarcia5396people like yourself have made a mockery of this case not honorable judge gull

[@66.sixty.1]

I'm just so aggravated there's no cameras in the court. Not even audio. Tragic travesty.

[@jenstrack4179]

Obviously don't want the public to know what is going on.

[@cail171]

Hopefully few good reporters are in there. Which is more than likely happening. Court proceedings are supposed to be public

[@nevadatan7323]

If it was my dead child I don't think I'd want it televised.

[@whitehawk7082]

@@nevadatan7323, I agree.

[@Letsberealish]

The correct defendant isn't even in court

[@cail171]

I STILL feel like prosecution has more footage from the girls' phone than they've put out to the public.

[@nevadatan7323]

Yeah they do. But for the sensitivity and respect of the girls and their families they had to edit it. It isn't helpful to see their distress. Trial [if it occurs ever, they will change plea imo] will have the entirety.

[@Monica-hv4rf]

You dont have to "believe" it. They've told us this since day one. 🙄Ugh. Whats the point in commenting if you don't actually pay attention to the case?? For YEARS it was a big deal that was all that was released, as the police said there was more to the video 😞🤦 please PLEASE pay attention before commenting and have respect for these girls! Least you can do is get your info right for them ..

[@williamrae9954]

That's not going to be even part of this trial... all part of the false timeline...time 'Bridge Guy' was forgotten about, all part of the cover up,as with KG's spewings over clothes...only that family had access to those, no one else,and certainly not the man in the dock!

[@ReRe13-]

Wait what ? ???

[@kandy7142]

I believe that too.

[@th4305]

The "down the hill" audio always gives me chills

[@deboraharmon9459]

I can’t help but think why didn’t those two girls run that guy was fat they couldn’t catch them

[@Newjerseyblows]

Yeah it's haunting. I just cant imagine their terror in those moments 😢

[@Newjerseyblows]

​@deboraharmon9459 he had them at gunpoint

[@judyberends7021]

Thanks for the update. This is a horrible case. The innocent girls lost their lives . Justice

[@JE4-1]

I don't think I've ever been aware of a more incompetent criminal investigation in my life.I guess this happens a lot in small towns who have small police departments. They usually don't know what they're doing and don't have the proper training or resources.

[@nevadatan7323]

The FBI were brought in early.

[@BonkersBabe]

FBI was never involved.

[@johnchaulk]

They have the guilty party in jail and about to face a trial. That’s far from incompetent. A solid case that would convince a grand jury and then a trial jury takes time.

[@maxpainmedia]

This is what the FBI is for to assist them

[@sammyday3341]

Thank you expert.

[@littleTraeth]

So they lost 70 days of crucial evidence yet suddenly a little note pops out 6 years later , my derriere...

[@adamNDkipker]

Ur ass?

[@angie-kbm]

Exactly, they used a cold case against him In order to "solve" something bf election and possibly a cover-up imo

[@usakiwi1986]

Soory but these 2 sketches look like they should be on the childrens game I used to play when I was little called "GUESS WHO"

[@bbaldwin2386]

Where’s the DNA evidence?

[@nevadatan7323]

CSI effect. There isn't always viable DNA at every crime scene, particularly not outdoors. However they did take samples from Rick Allen's car, and there was brief utterance of Libbys DNA between judge gull and mcLeland before moving onto the next issue ... so they must have something.

[@julybliss4440]

@@nevadatan7323 "so they must have something" but you haven't seen it?. And you are accusing others of going off what they just read and see on yt.

[@williamrae9954]

DNA and phone data not to be used in this trial...the 1st in history, as a conviction must be secured at all costs...sweep,sweep...then Gull get paid off with her coveted seat in the Supreme Court for services rendered... just wait for that to happen!

[@gibbo822]

@@julybliss4440 you wait until trail then all your answers will be Infront of you. Honestly people are thick

[@chelsea5867]

Law enforcement has stated under oath in a deposition that no DNA and no digital evidence connects Richard Allen to the crime scene.

[@lavernhall7535]

She took the words right out of my mouth when she said how can LE have so much evidence a picture and video which is more than most LE has when it comes to a crime like this and in such a small town it's hard to believe a family or friend doesn't recognize his clothing or walk.

[@StellaKnights]

I believe thats ron logan

[@neacienation]

Well, in all fairness, he's walking on railroad tracks. If you aren't careful you will fall through or break an ankle so nobody is will be walking the way the usually do. It wasnt like there were tons of men there. I still have no idea if hes guilty though. I keep going back and forth. I hope the guilty party is punished whoever he/they are.

[@lsaxman]

I love how the “experts on the case” a) quote the BG video as “GIRLS DOWN THE HILL” and b) claim that it’s unknown if there is more video evidence. LE ALREADY SAID the full video is about a minute long i.e., there IS more video evidence.

[@she3po945]

Epic reporting as always Vin, thank you!! 🙏🩷🤌

[@HM-dd3pt]

I'm so interested in this story. I can't wait for the trial so everything will come out. Bless those poor girls hearts and their families too. 🙏

[@Rex.Stardust]

I don't feel like EVERYTHING will come out at trial...

[@jenstrack4179]

If you really believe that everything will come out during trial, you may be very naive. Gull has seen to it that it won't.

[@HM-dd3pt]

@jenstrack4179 sorry, I may have used the term loosely....

[@nevadatan7323]

Defense will drag it out to the max 🤑🤑🤑 Then they'll submit change of plea. They have capital F all to work with. He's been wanting to confess for like, 2 years and the D are exploiting him for coin.

[@heatherbowlan1961]

@@HM-dd3pt yes me also , Libby and Abby were just like everyone’s child as in exampling it could of been our daughters , granddaughters , so we all feel close to this case !

[@LindysEpiphany]

Here's my biggest question....what made Libby secretly record a random man walking across the bridge? In the photo of Abby there is no man on the bridge behind her, so why would they stand there and wait for him to get all the way across? Why secretly record him like they are concerned but just stand there and wait for him to get to them? Ugh! It makes no sense. I think either someone was holding them at gunpoint while waiting for bridgeguy, which could be why there's two sketches. Or maybe they were meeting someone they didn't know and Libby was suspicious of him enough to record him.

[@Sredna29]

I don’t think they were held at gunpoint at that time. If that were true, whoever it was would most likely have seen Libby record the video. But I do think it’s possible that they were there to meet someone at a specific time. Maybe they’ve never met that person face to face before, but atleast they’ve seen some pictures of the guy. So when they first notice the man in the video, they quickly realize that he isn’t the person in the pictures, which obviously made the girls suspicious. They then talk to each other to figure out their next move, and eventually decide to record the man walking across the bridge, so that they’re in possession of evidence should something happen. But it could also just be a coincidence, that the man walking across the bridge is out for a walk, with no evil intentions toward anyone, and just happens to be walking there at that time. Maybe that’s what the girls were thinking at that time? It would explain why they didn’t run away, and at the same time suspicious enough to record a stranger walking. ❤ Abby & Libby ❤

[@Sredna29]

Maybe that’s the role Kegan Kline played in this tragic case? He was the one who was supposed to lure the girls into a trap, with the false promise of this young and rich male model being interested in meeting the girls in person…

[@myaliasnameis]

@@LindysEpiphany or BG was just in the background of a picture that LE hasn’t released the entirety of. To me it looks like a Live Loop photo and this guy is just in the background, but zoomed in on the version released to the public. I don’t trust it at all.

[@n.c.467]

I believe that the bridge is so narrow (and without railings at the time ), that if somebody is walking across it, someone going in the opposite direction would likely wait for them to pass by first, just as a courtesy/ safety measure. It's an assumption on my part, but that's what I thought when I saw the bridge. As far as taking a recording, I don't know if you've ever experienced it, but I know I have....a feeling of impending doom like something's about to happen that shouldn't. He told them to go down the hill...which was obviously not a normal thing to say...Now we are equipped with cellphones...the means to capture these sorts of scenes and incidents. Plus the girls probably knew with them being small of stature, they could not have outrun this man. So, at least Libby had the presence of mind to record something on Her phone, in case her gut feeling turned out to be true... and thank goodness that she did. May they rest in peace.🙏🏼🎉❤

[@neacienation]

Yeah. This whole thing it drives me crazy. Why the heck isn't that bridge closed down?? The bridge alone the tracks over the water.That is dangerous enough all by itself! However , the guy was huge , why couldn't they run? It doesnt make ANY sense. Something is missong. I'd hate to think that the police were just deciding that this guy is our guy and they decided to turn the other way when real evidence came in. Not only does that mean an innocent man is going to prison but it also means murderers who killed children are free.

[@sandibaker5298]

19:38 There’s 4 simple words; “guys down the hill”. Why do so many people quote it incorrectly??

[@lsaxman]

The literal “expert” on the case 😭😭😭 Ridiculous and sloppy

[@SuperMelrose1]

This 100%

[@ZachNasty]

My man Vinnie P going deep tonight!! Vinnie P is the best in the business!!!!!! I heard that the video was longer from one of the officers on the case,. Not much longer but im sure he said it was longer,.

[@anugillsten5996]

As Court TVs person YES❤ But when he IS home,tired,agressive way to talk,he IS NOT (My man😅). He want too much talk and do live shows,and he IS not so good as in Court TV.

[@Ieezeca]

​@@anugillsten5996The man is nothing but fair and neutral on Court TV. He's a mediator. His personal channel he expresses Frustration more, not bias.

[@mandychadwick8762]

Vinnie ❤ thank you. I appreciate your style and Mike too.

[@susanjbecker7983]

Two suspects, two perpetrators, three suspects, three perps. The hair in hand, a third girl to help herd the girls down the hill. Why must there be one suspect, one perp. ?

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

No mention of the search of Rick's home turning up no crime scene souvenirs (which the killers absolutely took that fateful day). No mention of how Rick never threw away his Jacket he was wearing that day ~ even after several years. No mention of Mary's witness testimony where she came forward and told police she knew the killers ~ and then gave the Police Crime Scene details that were not public at that time (that only the killer would know). No mention of the narrative inconsistencies of the Holder Parents when Interrogated about who their son dated (one of the victims in this case). No mention of Libbys phone coming alive and logging all this activity at 4:30am the following morning. No mention of the location inconsistencies with the tracking of Libbys phone No mention of the search party inconsistencies from the night the girls went missing ~ compared to the following morning No mention of Investigator Click's sworn Testamony (which fully exonerates Rick all by itself) No mention of the untimely and sudden death of lead Investigator on the case Greg Ferency?? ☆SERIOUSLY COURT TV☆ WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE??

[@sweetsu3s]

@gregwillett2710 The three day evidentiary hearing was for the defense. The prosecution will present their evidence in court. We will have to wait until then to hear what the do and do not have.

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

@sweetsu3s Too bad thats not how Brady Law works at all. That's not how the Law works at all. The State is to produce (quote) "any and all evidence to be used in Court PRIOR to Trial." Criminal Defendants have a Constitutional Right to access to everything to prepare a full picture and defense. Those are the rules. That is the Law. And that includes, by the way, all records and documents from all original investigators on the case. This is, in fact, the first Death Penalty Case in the ☆ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA☆ to bann the Case Files of origional investigators and their casework & Testamony from being able to he used at Trial. That has never once happened before. And thats not ***at all*** how Prosecutors who have credible evidence against a Defendant behave. There is no excuse for leaving all of that out Court TV!!! It's literally Journalistic Malpractice & GASLIGHTING

[@amandanegrete1306]

Investigator Click will be in jail.

[@brigittebowman9113]

Ron Logan is much taller than bridge guy and has a big white moustache. Bridge Guy does not have a white moustache and he is the same height as Richard Allen and guess what, Vinnie: Richard Allen was actually there! In fact he was the only male there at the same time and place as Libby and Abby. Law enforcement and the state have the right man.

[@LetItBeSummer-1]

Have to take long breaks from absorbing crime stories sometimes. The name true crime It’s not a game. It’s real life. I’m a little nervous to watch this & see what’s new, if anything Yikes

[@nevadatan7323]

Real. 💯 It's reverted to 90s tabloid magazine hysteria and it's disgusting. People need to get a grip.

[@julybliss4440]

​@@nevadatan7323call me what you want. But it only proves your deranged, delusional, and a victim blamer on top of supporter of child engagement (with my duaghter) just like local indiana cops did in 2017-2019, the same exact type of people that blindly believe this judge and the cops/investigators of this case. Funny that you want to call me mental with no evidence of my psychological state. Never mind I have bought and paid off my home, graduated hs/ college, and apprentice all by 30yr old, raised my daughter solo her whole life and more. You should judge Abby and libby family and cops that I recorded ignoring suspects tracks again as recent as 2022 if you think I'm mental. Why don't you stick to pedeophile support in your own area/region??? We parents of Northern indiana don't like that stuff for our children.

[@NatalieNightwolfTV]

Is it possible that the man in the video and the audio recording are two different people? Where did the audio clip come from - Snapchat? Is there video for the clip?

[@NatalieNightwolfTV]

I don't think the audio comes from the clip of the man walking on the bridge? The man walking is far away from the girls when the video was taken. At that point, the girls probably wouldn't have known they were in any danger. Perhaps they took that video just in case something happened but is it possible they took that video of the man on the bridge (looks like the suspect) and later another man killed them; the same man from the "girls, down the hill" audio clip?

[@sammyday3341]

@@NatalieNightwolfTVOne sole perpetrator. RA.

[@sammyday3341]

I believe it’s from the same clip.

[@gibbo822]

​@@NatalieNightwolfTV I agree with you but they knew something was up they say

[@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx]

True, what if bridge guy isnt involved, and someone approached from other direction.

[@Jelly-Garcia]

TYSM for highlighting this tremendously important case & the injustice that continue for these victims while their killers roam free and an innocent man needlessly suffers

[@user-Fallout1066]

What disturbs me most is that there might have been a second person. Also more footage is there than we are being told

[@DVD927]

I’m so sad for everyone involved

[@Monica-hv4rf]

Those poor girls. I wonder what the full video shows. I'm glad we don't see)hear it. Im sure the girls were panicking and i dont want to remember that being their last moments.

[@williamrae9954]

​@@Monica-hv4rfDoubt we'll ever get to the truth,for all we know,these girls were taken must earlier than we're being told,and drugged?

[@angie-kbm]

It truly is

[@Tereselynn]

Also WHY has the public never been allowed to hear Richard Allen's voice???

[@mommaof4373]

I'm sure they done voice test I hope so any ways

[@StellaKnights]

@@mommaof4373 doubt it , they havnt even tested the hair in abbys hand

[@Newjerseyblows]

Theres video of him floating around KZbin, and it sounds EXACTLY like him 💯

[@neacienation]

I have heard it. It sounds the same as RA. Other people say it doesnt sound anything like him. So who knows?

[@ceciliabrown9778]

​@@StellaKnights They did it is kelsi hair in Abby hand

[@kimberlypainter5169]

40:29 my dad says the exact same thing. But if the girls are the only ones to see him, WHO is giving the artist these features? Like what is the credibility of these images? So many questions.

[@ariesfire13]

DP gave artist a description of old BG...don't know if it was used? He was the one under the bridge....his daddy sits on city council

[@kimberlypainter5169]

​@@ariesfire13DP?

[@ariesfire13]

@@kimberlypainter5169 Daniel Pearson, he was the one arguing under the bridge

[@sandibaker5298]

42:06 Wow! I respectfully disagree with the sketch artist! I don’t think “the nose and the eyes and the eyebrows and especially the lips” look remotely similar.

[@gibbo822]

They do and spot on for Allen at the time

[@HEB-kb6ol]

- He’s interviewed and was at the location and admits it in 2017 - They can’t find any suspects - Different photos - They have no evidence - They go back through evidence after years of pressure, picks the closest perp, raid the house, pick a gun and bullet, say it was at the scene - he’s being set up.

[@wigirlie]

Definitely suspicious! I'm starting to think it's a framing. It just doesn't make sense.

[@Paula14609]

Who admits to being at the scene…without expectation of cameras…if you’re guilty? I still say RL. Sooooo botched by the cops from the getgo.

[@verucasalty5]

It's gross how obvious it is they're setting this man up

[@janina8559]

Are you nucking futz? You haven’t even seen all the evidence yet. There is more video than what we have seen. They have what they need just wait for the trial. It will all come together. And he turned himself in as being there because he knew people saw him. But he didn’t know that the girls videoed him.

[@gibbo822]

​@@janina8559I like what you did there lol 😂 they are weirdos that think watching a KZbinr will help them solve this case

[@valerieviramonte7887]

Don’t mean to nit pick, but the author quotes the guy on the bridge as saying “girls down the hill”, when he actually said guys. It could’ve meant there were guys down the hill to meet them.

[@neacienation]

Or it could be that's just how he refers to more than one person? It doesn't take two people to take control when the bad guys got a gun though.

[@mr.c4p]

everyone there knew RL was driving on a suspended license, he wasn't worried about it and neither were the cops. heck he was literally on camera driving and being recorded all the time whenever he'd go to the dump (transfer station) which he regularly did. his license would also have been logged every-time by a worker before he was let in. that's how dumps/transfer stations work. saying RL lied about his alibi all because he didn't want people to know he was driving is silly nonsense.

[@jimnasium7700]

@mr.c4p agreed. Especially since he knew the time frame to tell them he had an alibi before they announced the time frame when they'd been abducted. How did he know to prep his cousin to say where he was between 2:15 and 5pm?

[@jeanwilliams7089]

What's hard to understand is if Dulin was told by RA that he was on the bridge. If he did, then why did Dulin not bring RA up when they kept asking for someone to identify the guy on the bridge? Why did an experienced conservator officer not follow up on something so important?

[@moisesmontecillo7570]

The girls were shot? I thought they were stabbed

[@VtooSmooth]

Something not right about this case ....

[@FL-CourtReporter]

The idea that he was looking at a stock ticker on that bridge with major deficiencies/dangers… no way ‼️‼️🤷‍♀️👌

[@Willow-fs8dq]

The sketches do not look like Allen, sorry.

[@sherrigilson7276]

I am So Glad You Are Going to Delphi Indiana Lauren and Dr. John. I was so upset with the No cameras Again and No Audio? I know you will bring it to everyone that has an interest in It.

[@lasandralee5487]

OK, so I switched the channel the minute that I found out that everybody on the panel was pro prosecution. If this was truly a deep dive, why don’t they dive into the fact that Logan’s Geo fencing location put him by the bodies at 7:56PM And 10:16 PM? I wonder what could’ve happened there? Who was Ron Logan calling? Who sent him a text message ? Could he barely drag their bodies to the corner of his lot so many hours later? More importantly, why were the girls bodies not spotted until February 14 around noon. That is the same day Logan called his cousin to ask for an alibi for February 13, and how did he know that he would need the alibi for bodies that weren’t even found yet? Did you know that Richard Allens phone is nowhere in the Geo fencing? This evidence alone would bother me if I was related to the children. I would be asking a whole lot of questions. This is corruption at its finest and now the media is helping to convict an innocent man. What kind of prosecutor don’t want his own evidence to be brought to court? This prosecutor should be disbarred for ignoring the facts and being most likely unwilling to admit these children’s murderer is dead and they dropped the ball.

[@s.wadesmith]

I will not be watching court tv any more… the prosecution is paying these people to PUSH this

[@lasandralee5487]

@@s.wadesmith yeah I know all the evidence points to the fact that Richard Allen is not guilty. This prosecutor is just on an ego trip. With all this evidence pointed to so many other people, and he chooses to look the other way.

[@sisvswann1897]

@@lasandralee5487like the Durham,NC did when the stripper accused the Duke LaCrosse team of Rape! He got dismissed/Mike NiFong!

[@lasandralee5487]

@@sisvswann1897 that is not even comparable. Quit spewing rhetoric.

[@sisvswann1897]

@@lasandralee5487 I’m free, AND 21. I CAN say what I want. You CAN post(which you did) or you CAN scroll the ffff bye. lol lol you be blessed

[@katherinewhite4465]

Vinny’s fav ridiculous question: “why did it take the police this long”. His guests set him straight sometimes.

[@Dris899]

A lot of people tend to forget is Richard Allen came toward saying he was there, before he was aware of the BG footage they would later release. I doubt he would have admitted it if he was aware the girls got "HIM" on camera.

[@IrishAlexandria]

He may have seen their camera out and just been covering the possibility of an image looking like him: he kept his head down and we know they already had their camera out.

[@audreykassem8010]

He never came forward in 2019 and said “ hey that was my car parked at the CPS building that your wondering about. Remember me I contacted LE and spoke to DD”. Why because he never wanted to bring attention to himself .

[@jimnasium7700]

@audreykassem8010 or simply because he did his part already in 2017. Why would he presume they'd need anything more from him since he already told them everything he saw? And Allen never stated that he parked at the CPS, so he wouldn't have reason to answer that request. He said he parked at the Farm Bureau building. And rumor is that the defense have proof that he purchased Farm Bureau stock after his walk.

[@audreykassem8010]

@@jimnasium7700 there is no old farm bureau building by the trails and he did not buy stock. That’s the clown attorneys putting out the false narrative again. As for his confessions even his wife believes them now

[@SkepticCuriosity]

Elvis Fields ' sister came forward bc he was trying to give her a bloody blue jacket when the girls were still missing. He knew they were murdered and had been on a bridge. Law enforcement and the the Prosecution don't need to lie and hide things if they have a solid case. I don't think Rick did this. According to FBI, during their first Delphi presser to look for someone who changes and gets rid of clothing. Rick kept everything. I think he was genuinely trying to help.

[@linda-louiseanthony1979]

I agree with you. And the bullet - that was found AFTER the scene had been opened up. That they didn't find until later on? Imo that leaves reasonable doubt. I don't think he did it either.

[@nevadatan7323]

Their statements were dismissed as they are both mentally compromised individuals.

[@nevadatan7323]

According to the FBI I'm the pretrial hearings they adamantly dismiss the Odinism theory, and all including Click, state that the Defense took their work and spun it wildly out of context. 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@stoneneils]

I think you need help.

[@maxpainmedia]

Well i heard they dug up RA’s dead cat to see if the cat hairs match fibers on the scene lets see

[@jeffguybersen]

Explain the two, colossally different, sketches for suspects!?!?

[@LD.1888]

There are actually 4 sketches and other 2 are again different looking from thy two

[@jeffguybersen]

@@LD.1888 well I live here and there have only been two released

[@LD.1888]

@jeffguybersen if you look up the sketches for BG there is 4 they might not have realised them but they are there really young looking person different from other 2 and other has something covering face

[@jeffguybersen]

@@LD.1888 I live across the street from the jail, one block away from the courthouse . don't you think if there were more than two sketches, that I would know about them

[@LD.1888]

@@jeffguybersen obviously not look it up

[@ladycici1364]

Was Tobe Leazenby on duty when the girls were murdered? Does he have an alibi?

[@myrtlemoore7611]

My thing is this how can you let 2 girls go off in the wilderness in the woods across that big bridge even though it was a small community you just don't do that you don't let young girls go off by themselves like that the world is too dangerous hell I wouldn't have done that Ever Never

[@ladyjenny1746]

This case seemed somewhat straight forward when it first happened. Even though the police kept everything close to the vest, I was so confused about the different composites the police put out, confused about why it dragged out for such a small town? If the police thought it was a local and there are bystanders on bridge, why did it take so long? Then I kind of checked out once they arrested dude thinking okay they got him. But then I hear rumblings of police not having a solid case, that he may not be the killer. I certainly want the police to get the killer but I also don't want an innocent person convicted for something they did not do. We shall see...

[@jpaul251]

He doesn't have to be the killer. The charges have accomplice liability. He just needs to have helped BG to be guilty.

[@MHP_LLc]

Politically driven injustice, they have no interest in pursuing and leads because they needed an arrest to get reelected. It is sickening. RA didn't do this. An ejected round is NOT solid ballistics evidence. That's literally all they have. Oh and coerced confessions if a man in psychosis.

[@neacienation]

How would they know those girls were gonna be there to be mutual accomplices? This seems more like a crime of opportunity. . Im no detective though so wth do I know?

[@ladyjenny1746]

@@jpaul251 so there are more than one killer. It's a multiple people? This case threw me when the police rolled out the 1st sketch and then a new sketch that looks nothing like the first. Is there any movement in this case?

[@MHP_LLc]

@neacienation Brad Holder was Abbys boyfriends dad, a casual comment made by anyone in their family circle would be all that was needed

[@lee-annmurphy9237]

Richard Allen is innocent until proven guilty ,he shouldn't even be in prison ,what about the prison guards wearing odinism marks .

[@mallorycanning2339]

@lee-annmurphy9237 not sure about US but in Canada it's called remand and they hold someone charged in jail until they can appear infront of a judge. It's basically for public safety

[@skyeblu1722]

Richard Allen is totally guilty! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to deduce this one!

[@unitopias]

The scariest type of people are the ones who can look innocent. I knew a friend who didn't look like the type who would hurt children but found out the GA Children exploitation units were looking for him. Super scary. Be safe, be street smart.

[@gummybears-n-crime1317]

Oooo the sketch artist finally answered all of our questions. Makes sense!!!

[@jerrymesser8452]

My dad lost one of his lower legs three inches below the knee and I cannot get it out of my head how he walked and how this guy on the bridge walked. Because of how the new lower leg hooks to the knee I see the same way both dad and this guy moves his right leg, almost a snap when the knee comes up. Does anyone else see this?

[@SonetLandman]

Good observation.

[@jpaul251]

I think it's just leg length differential with the suspect. A notably shorter left leg. RA has equal length legs imo.

[@jimnasium7700]

@jerrymesser8452 Anthony Kline, one of the users of the Anthony Shots profile had knee surgery just before the date of the murders.

[@everything_is_illuminated619]

Find a video online of the former mayor/now judge Shane Evans... it's striking the resemblance in the gait.. that's the kind of limp you're talking about. I'm not saying I have any reason to believe it was him, but dang... it's bridge guys walk.

[@IHeArTrOcK20]

There's so much fishy stuff going on with LE and the court in this case, I'm so worried that no cameras will be in the courtroom

[@summerdesjardins6808]

He isn't walking like a 20 year old judging by Libby's video.

[@ArtwithKrissy]

Even if they didn't think he was a suspect you would expect multiple interviews of those who was on or near the bridge that day over the course of the investigation, people sometimes don't remember things straight away.. it's so sad they didn't follow up with it at all. I feel awful for Abbie and Libby's family

[@Jen-rose76]

Such a horrible heartbreaking situation. Because of these poor beautiful little girls, I was some what of a helicopter mom. (Thank goodness for cellphones or my kids would hate me.) Breaks my heart that they tried so hard to leave evidence, that they may have known this was it for them. 😭 I Pray everyday that these two beautiful innocent baby girls get the justice they deserve. Sending love and support to both of there family’s and friends. Feel really bad for the sister who dropped them off. I can not even imagine the guilt that she must feel. 😢 so so sad. I know she wishes she never left them that day. Hugs. R.I.P. Abigail Williams. 🩷🙏🏽🩷 R.I.P. Liberty German. 💛🙏🏽💛

[@mish4164]

This cannot possibly be his first rodeo - not with this level of confidence in his planning. Always tuned in from Melbourne- Australia

[@carolp5993]

One sketch for the age makes no sense there’s no way the guy on the video is anywhere near 20 years old. How can this woman say the sketches look similar?! They couldn’t be more opposite

[@lasandralee5487]

@@carolp5993 another thing is who has ever heard of a child using the term walking with a purpose?

[@kindiswills470]

This is so sad clearly Ron Logan is the one who took those girls life. He has the same hat and blue jacket as the man in the video. Justice for Richard Allen. That man doesn’t fit the description he’s to short and looks younger than the man in the photo

[@danellegrogg9865]

Yes, Ron Logan could of been the bridge guy. He's deceased now ..they want to prosecute someone so they qiut looking at him of course

[@AP-lm5qe]

In delphi, the bridge was cut off for people by a cement barrier like a road block, and a sign that would say like “don’t walk on here” And it was common knowledge that the other side is private property. And that you’re not suppose to be on the bridge. So as a young girl a person coming up to you with a gun and telling you to go - you may think it’s the land owner, you’ve upset them they want you to leave and not via the bridge you weren’t suppose to be on… so you go… he may have gotten close because they thought they were being reprimanded. Not that the girls did anything wrong, everyone does it even though the sign says not to etc etc

[@Jammn126]

Why would he go to the cops and tell them he was there if he did it?

[@Hoosier_leclere]

Happens alot

[@heatherbowlan1961]

I don’t think they said he did , I thought they say “why would he “ I think maybe we herd it wrong, I’ll have to go and listen again . LOL

[@nevadatan7323]

Deflection. To insert a narrative.

[@nevadatan7323]

​@@heatherbowlan1961he did. He realised he was seen by multiple eyewitnesses and wanted to volunteer himself as Regular Joe™️

[@heatherbowlan1961]

@@nevadatan7323 wow , that’s crazy !

[@manfredfritz6068]

ISP doesn't tell you anything because when you have a weak case you don't show your hand to anymore people then you have to.

[@gibbo822]

No you don't show your hand until trial what's wrong with you people??

[@audreykassem8010]

They only put out on the PCA enough to arrest someone, not the whole case

[@gibbo822]

@@audreykassem8010 The fact we only have 8 pages of a 30+ page document aswell 🤦

[@manfredfritz6068]

@@gibbo822 Through Discovery you can't hold back evidence and spring it on the defense at trial, you've been watching too much Perry Mason

[@stoneneils]

You don't show your hand to anyone ever regardless how strong it is unless you want it to suddenly become weak.

[@sabinestrunden7657]

You Are right...its unbelievebel That IT took so long

[@marlenemcmillan8891]

Really hope this gets solved soon

[@5GreenAcres]

It isn't going to get "solved." They have the wrong guy. This is a tragedy all the way around.

[@gibbo822]

@@5GreenAcres no this case is solved stop pandering to idiots that give their theories and think the are investigating watching over videos

[@christopherknifht7007]

Wrong guy ........maybe......maybe not

[@jimnasium7700]

Some of these details have already been explained. He called the tip line and they arranged a meeting with Dulin the next day. And the FBI investigated and said the story of the tip being filed under the wrong name was untrue.

[@cindymatthews6440]

# JUSTICE FOR ABBY AND LIBBY. I Love you Anna and you know I’m here for you always

[@Skunk-ed]

Anna Williams is involved in the coverup

[@amandanegrete1306]

@@Skunk-edthat is a horrible accusation.

[@cindymatthews6440]

Shame on you!!!!! She adores her only child. Abbey was her world and, there is nothing, NOTHING she wants more than JUSTICE FOR ABBEY! You should really be ashamed of yourself for saying such a horrible comment towards the mother of a murdered child!!!

[@amandanegrete1306]

@@Skunk-ed what happened to Ms. Williams lovely child and her dear friend wasn’t HEINOUS enough? You’re spending your time BLAMING and ACCUSING a woman who lost her ONLY child to STRANGER violence? It’s so easy to spread disgusting lies about people who aren’t privileged. Ms William’s is an easy target for people of your kind. She’s a singing And by “your yourecmbc she’s not wealthy or part of the elite. A single mom willing to wait tables so she could financially care for Abby Anna and the other parents/grandparents and immediate family members of the victims have to live with emotional TORMENT for life. Of course the unimaginable torment of the unknown; Reporters stopped Anna while leaving the FD to return to the official search and asked what she was feeling. She responded how scared she was that the girls were stuck somewhere COLD and HUNGRY. Anna didn’t know Abby and Libby were already beyond being found alive. Ms Williams is a single mom who ensured Abby was surrounding by a family. Anna didn’t dump her child on relatives and run off. She did her best to ensure Abby was surrounded by family who loved her. You’ve the right to your opinion no matter how obtuse and demented. You have NO RIGHT to make public accusations based in fantasy. Anna is a single mother! Her existence was dedicated to Abby. Anna was willing to live with her parents as an adult giving Abby the opportunity to grow up in a stable environment. She didn’t DUMP her child or demand her parents take on exclusive care of her child. Mr John Walsh’s daughter is a single parent too. Completely unwilling to provide her children a safe home life. Meghan Walsh is the epitome of a individual so otvjumother unable to hrrcllñññññññññppññbbb Instead of ASKING for her parents for assistance so she could fulfill the role as a mother no to raise the kids Meghan Walsh dumped all her kids on John and Reve. Of course the Walsh’s receive no financial support any of the FOUR different fathers and Meghan REFUSES help and will not see her children. She’s accused John Walsh of sex trafficking his own son and she claims Adam is still alive living as a makeshift “woman”. If you want to pop off why not spread information the Walsh family? Advocate for John, seeing him a broken man

[@robertburt8440]

For all of you people that believe RA is not getting a fair trial and believe that the state is trying to convict an innocent person. Then here's one for you that should really make you mad: I have a pretty strong suspicion that I know exactly who the "bridge guy" is. His looks, walk and voice absolutely match a guy I knew (from Indiana) that around the time this happened disappeared into his apartment and was not seen until one day he came over and asked me if I wanted a gun. It was a 40 cal. semi auto and I took it just because the state of mind he seemed to be in, I thought I was doing him a favor by getting it out of his reach. I gave the gun to someone that is close enough to me that I can get it back. About a year later (not sure on timeline) he came back to me and asked if he could have it back. To which I replied that I had given to someone. Not very long after, he hung himself. I spent a lot of time talking with this guy and had heard about how much he didn't like Woman and how much he had he been screwed around by them to a point that he really didn't like them. I sent in this info to the state police while they were investigating the murders and never got any response or acknowledgement that they had received it. Since, I have made attempts to contact some of the attorney's reporting on it. I can't seem to connect with anybody to tell this story to so, here I am. Was trying to go through what I thought were the correct channels to no avail.

[@maggiemaeblais7647]

You are the best, Vinnie❤❤

[@ralphmajor1947]

They have been flubing this up from the beginning 😢😢😢❤❤❤!!!

[@lcharm69]

This case is the worst case of corruption I've ever seen. Why are you still bringing on people like the M.S.

[@nevadatan7323]

What do you mean by corruption exactly. Where's the evidence of corruption?

[@hammy74929]

@@nevadatan7323 Corruption: “dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power”. Jerry Holeman (Indiana State Police) has been caught continually lying on the stand regarding evidence and the investigation (the two young and old man sketches being Richard Allen, the Norse/Germanic studies professor from Purdue, and Allen’s time in prison). I would consider that all dishonest and fraudulent conduct by those in power. Regarding the prosecutor, Nick McCleland, and other people in the investigation, they could just be fed bad information from those around them and be incompetent rather than deceitful.

[@deannawitt9376]

Why would he be walking there all by himself, in the middle of the day, just being creepy. He's a big weirdo killer.

[@ss-wu1vp]

Walking outdoors is normal

[@JessicaD.-vb9ho]

I go exploring the forests alone all the time.

[@katmack4215]

After following this case from the very beginning,and reading every Document that has been released(some even before Judge Gull..🙄)..I feel completely comfortable stating publicly that Richard Allen is wrongfully accused!!

[@stoneneils]

You've only read what's been released...exactly.

[@sammyday3341]

And you also see Sasquatch on a regular basis. 😂

[@SOOOOOfine69]

Smooth brain 🧠 👌

[@dudemorris7769]

I agree 1000% RA is not guilty of killing these two girls. I’m waiting on the trial for them to prove to me he’s guilty because I don’t find anything that has ties to him doing it. Not a shred of DNA of his on 2 murdered girls & nothing that leads to him that they’ve found.

[@pamcakes1]

This is a family affair.

[@adriannaconnally8304]

I think there’s more audio! It clearly sounds chopped up, probably won’t get the rest until trial.

[@ChihuahuaDawson]

Thank you for you're coverage. To all of you're team love Sydney Australia 🇦🇺💚 Many Aussie sluths in chat. G'day mods and chat 👍🏻 R.I.P to the girls and sweet justice is com'n. 🙏

[@deboraharmon9459]

Look at the way the man on the bridge steps walks

[@Crazy-Times.]

I think they have the wrong man I still think right to this day that Ron Logan did this to those girls

[@nevadatan7323]

What are you basing that on exactly

[@rdevans4097]

I never knew RA came forward and admitted he’d been on the bridge but this was before the clip ‘down the hill’ was released.

[@kimp519]

What’s weird is that his family wife, daughter , son in law, friends and co-workers didn’t think it was him and didn’t call the cops on him. So strange . I know my husband’s voice, body mannerisms and would know .. Maybe wife and daughter in denial .

[@everything_is_illuminated619]

Not that I necessarily think it was Ron Logan, but I'm pretty sure multiple people called the tip line saying they thought Logan was bridge guy.

[@christopherknifht7007]

Um plenty of killers fooled wives children friends,.....they also most of the time swear up and down that they didn't do it and most of the time face meets eggs

[@SmittyLS]

The other big missed opportunity was not releasing the vehicle make, model and color of the car captured on the store camera. Richard Allen's black Ford Focus was reportedly practically new and he parked it at his work every day. It might have jogged someone's memory.

[@Beyatchenator]

Like the investigators? RA worked at the only pharmacy in town a 2 min walk from the Sheriff's office. How many times do you think an investigator passed it? Wouldn't take much to do a check on their system to find cars like that in the area. Cross check the data and narrow it down. And one matches, low and behold, a dude that came forward to say he was there! Or the same dude who owns a gun "matching" the unspent round. This whole case is BS

[@kimberlypainter5169]

Edit the noise out of Bridge Guy sound clip 29:21 If there were alarming evidence pointing to someone else would it matter at this point? Can we prove there was no tampering with the data?

[@gibbo822]

Sit down case closed we just need to get the pr1ck through trail

[@tammymartin880]

Killers still at large……hiding in plain sight👀

[@lisatodd8420]

It's Indiana, just look at the LaSalle Street Murders from late 1971, and the Burger Chef Murders. With a track record like that can you wonder?

[@heatherbowlan1961]

Was there any pictures of children , etc , found in Ron Lougans home or surroundings, may not pictures on a PC , with him being so old , DVDs, albums etc , ??? Anyone no.

[@Hannah-201]

I doubt it if there wasany child abuse material found he would have been charged with it

[@jimnasium7700]

@heatherbowlan1961 no. There wasn't. And his DNA didn't match. But police didn't know at the time that Brad Holder was staying there. And they did find out later that one of his ranch hands was guilty of kidnapping and slaying a separate pair of young women. Logans friend group is full of suspicious characters.

[@turtle4614]

I truly hate this case. From the beginning it was never going to be solved by the public so it felt useless for us to be given information. It's this old guy,now a young guy. Here's more evidence which is a slight movement video and one more word. And now the fact that there's major doubt he's the one, I never saw that coming either. I can only imagine how the family feels. If it was my family I'd be beyond frustrated with how this all went down.

[@carrow1057]

Can you give viewers an option to black bar the news reel on the bottom?

[@adamNDkipker]

@@carrow1057 stop complaining

[@McGullicutty]

No they can’t. If it bothers you that much watch something else.

[@bobbylippencott4478]

The deal about him lying about an alibi before the town knew about the girls, is eye opening and he had to have a reason to make up a lie before he even needed to. I really think with just the evidence that is out there, they were both involved. I don’t like to accuse someone of anything negative tward a child because as a man and father, I wouldn’t want someone to do that to me, but I don’t make up lies about where I was when something happened. Sorry, but I strongly feel like he was in on it with R.A. and this isn’t their first go around. I’d look into other missing cases in the area

[@5GreenAcres]

This is a tragedy all the way around. I truly believe they have the wrong guy. Just because someone was on the bridge and filmed doesn't even mean that is the killer!!!! RA has been held in a PRISON before he has even gone to court. He has been in solitary confinement, wasting away and going crazy and talking crazy. Then you get a corrupt judge who is tying the defenses hands to allow RA's attorneys to put on a proper defense for him by not allowing so much of their case!!!! Meanwhile a possibley innocent man is being torchured in prison. Sickening.

[@5GreenAcres]

@bmk9844 Neither of the girls were shot.

[@Ieezeca]

​@bmk9844You mean the unspent round from a gun that's not the murder weapon? Not much seeing as no one even knows who admitted it to evidence, or when.

[@Ieezeca]

​@@5GreenAcresFor real! A round from a guy's property that loved gun play? There's a reason unfired rounds arent studied extensively.

[@noelswo549]

He's guilty don't stress too much. He admits being on bridge exact same time as the girls. Impossible he didn't run right into them

[@5GreenAcres]

@@Ieezeca The girls weren't shot. They have the wrong guy.

[@linseyskelly9524]

Ron Logan makes "hill" sound almost like a two syllable word with his accent. "Heel-eel" Bridge guy does not do that.

[@gibbo822]

I agree I think they are just covering the legit basics on here Mike's not a fool and Susan he's been very supportive of channels lately of channels that talk sense

[@sandibaker5298]

WHY haven’t they done a voice analysis on RA?!???

[@lcharm69]

Thank you!

[@nevadatan7323]

Why doesn't he just say "I'm Innocent" to all of the cameras following him around 🤔

[@stoneneils]

Who said they haven't? Of course they have.

[@maxpainmedia]

Im sure they did

[@sammyday3341]

It’s been done.

[@lorraineyanez4301]

At this point, it's the " idea" of justice. So much has been botched, in my opinion

[@caracal3892]

I watched until 9:09. What I learned from watching court tv: 1. It appears if the cops fail to catch a killer they will just grab any guy who is closest to the crime scene. My guess is they failed to catch the killer for 5 years then grabbed whoever is in the proximity. 2. Court TV will always cheer on when an innocent person is being convicted because they and the cops likely want to frame an innocent guy so they can at least punish someone. I have not seen a CourtTV episode where there is any doubt about whether someone is a killer, they just argue on how someone should be punished even harder. 3. Look at the first 9 minutes, not once the possibility of the guy on the bridge being innocent is even discussed. He openly admits being in the area, likely because he is innocent and thinks being truthful is the right thing to do.

[@SuperMelrose1]

I don’t think that’s necessarily true of Vinnie the whole time. I think he brought up Ron Logan for a reason. He went along with where the guests lead, but he probably has his own thoughts

[@lisadeav73]

My heart goes out to the families. I live about 3 hours from Delphi.

[@sammyday3341]

Excellent presentation. Thank you.

[@deannawitt9376]

Im so sick of the way this case has been handled. This Richard Allen has admitted to this. Im sick of it.

[@ss-wu1vp]

Yea, he also admitted to killing his wife, who is alive. They forced him to take antipsychotics as well

[@SuperMelrose1]

I have followed this since day one. I know it’s not science, but deep in my core, I have always gotten a feeling about RL. I’m not saying he did it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew something or had a role in things. I will admit, when they did voice comparisons of RA and Bridge Guy, it sounded so similar to me. But I just don’t know. I feel like he’s the wrong guy.

[@nemonucliosis]

Feelings dont matter. Facts do. RA confirmed the times he was seen by 4 witnesses. He confirmed the time blare saw him on platform 1. Blare then saw the girls walking towards the bridge shortly after seeing RA on the bridge. The time stamp photo of libby on the bridge was taken within minutes of crossing paths with blare. Then the fat boy "down the hil" video time stamp was literally minutes after libby photo.

[@billyje4726]

But why do ppl think he is wrongfully acused?? Everything points to him.

[@danellegrogg9865]

Why are the Odin cops not being allowed in court ?

[@nevadatan7323]

They are..? There's no trial yet. They've already testified at the pretrial hearings and even they themselves stated that the Defense took their work and statements out of context.

[@sammyday3341]

Because there’s zero evidence to form a basis for that BS.

[@gibbo822]

What are you talking about 'odin cops' ... Ffs

[@sweetsu3s]

Because they don't exist. The defense had three days to introduce them into evidence and didn't do it. It's all just fake talking points to taint the jury pool.

[@Beyatchenator]

@@sammyday3341 If there's zero evidence why were they investigating that angle? We just heard testimony that they interviewed BH just to learn more about Odinism. Seems to me like there IS evidence for it.

[@mamatee5042]

I don’t care what people say I know they have the right GUY.. him walking on the bridge,the way his body is built… that is RICHARD ALLEN

[@LindaLlewellyn-yo1gf]

Awesome show Vinnie.

[@DVD927]

Vinnie, will you please look at the murder case of Katherine “Katie” Janness in Piedmont Park in Atlanta? I think the case is extremely interesting…it’s disturbing though, almost like a Jack the Ripper case. Her pitbull dog was also killed. Happened just a few years ago.

[@RS33381]

I heard about this case years ago when it first happened. I automatically felt like their police force didn’t have enough experience to handle this. I feel like many parts of this investigation was botched.I don’t think it was someone local.

[@julybliss4440]

I was making reports about Anthony shots profile month before crime happened. Repeatedly ignored by police. As recent as 2022 same police are still botching other investigations in the very same manner they did the delphi case and I have it recorded. Not to mention I have data showing a soc worker working with police was trying to set me up in this case at the time ra and kk were arrested. She was collecting some of my clothing and other belongings while trying to get me to visit the wabash river search area. Telling my daughter that I was danger to kids and the world. Continuously fb stalking me.

[@nemonucliosis]

Must have been rex heuermann

[@christopherknifht7007]

Ok please take your medicine people.....

[@julybliss4440]

@@christopherknifht7007 litteraly, the same agencies that you entrust for this case told me I don't need meds, when they (leo/pschy)retaliated against for my knowledge about this case in 2019 and 2021. Regarding my daughters contact with AS profile and my eye witness account of real suspects stalking house.

[@sharonsmith1360]

Please replay one of the reporters taped request to ask ron logan to repeat "down the hill". Then they played Ron's voice repeating it and than the taped voice. It's ron logan.

[@stephaniehopkins994]

I swear I heard somewhere that there was a lot more recorded. They just didn't release it. The guys... Down the hill supposedly doesn't even appear in the audio in that order. Wish I could remember where.

[@nemonucliosis]

You're correct, only the 3 seconds of fast boy "guys down the hill" has been released. If I remember correctly the entire video is 43second long. This could mean whatever else is on the recording isnt auditable or there some important dialogue. We'll know more whenever trial ends.