GOING ROGUE in Top 200 MYTHIC | ZNR Standard | MTG Arena

[@jaredjohnson9442]

When times get hard just remember these words of wisdom: “It doesn’t obey me. It cooperates with me.”

[@kyzer42]

*corporates

[@Strongwolf14]

@@kyzer42 *copulates

[@connorscheu4077]

CGB you'd be so proud of me! I used Agadeems Awakening after we had both been drawing single cards to blank boards for three turns. Brought out everything and hit them for a simultaneous mill and life victory!!

[@connorscheu4077]

#CGByoudBeSoProudOfMe

[@fuzzybear-vi1px]

Not only does CGB explain the deck well and in detail...he even talks about specific plays that will happen from interaction.....that's my man......4D chess and kicking ass in the USA........

[@lifeisawesome1391]

Agadeem is great in the mirror match. When you are both milling each other decks, the first person to cast Agadeem often takes the game.

[@R_Arsiks_6]

The one video on all of KZbin I've been waiting for! Thanks for fighting through all of life's challenges to bring us this top tier content.

[@covertgoblue]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@vaals1942]

@@covertgoblue Rogues is my new favorite deck this set

[@coodu]

Great video mate, really enjoying this deck to start the new set 👌

[@covertgoblue]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@mtgayrek]

We always stay to the end! I've been loving this deck, the lofty denials are some great tech and a wonderful idea.

[@dcnole]

What I love about Rogues is how there are at least 3 or 4 really different decks you can run. All have same core of Enforce, Thought-Thief, and Drown, but there's a lot of variation beyond that. The Lurrus variant is very fun. A card like Acquisitions Expert is actually decent in that deck, and Vantress Gargoyle is your beater.

[@GMJoe]

I really like this deck. One new card I've found really nice in this deck is the uncommon blue modal land shapshifter. Fail state is it's a tap land. Best upside I've pulled off several times to devastating effect is a copy of Nighthawk Scavenger.

[@thegoblinempire2806]

Before Zendikar I was working on a Mono Black Rogues deck. These new cards just push rogues over the top! Good Stuff!

[@dkon4370]

I've been pretty successful running Blackbloom Rogue in my flex land slots instead of the ones mentioned in the video...a 5/3 menace that triggers everything else in the deck has worked nicely.

[@dinklebob1]

Times a 5/3 menace comes down: Sometimes. Times you spend XBBB on recurring two or three low CMC creatures: Never Not at all worth the Mythic for this deck.

[@astralmad3it]

Cgb.. I really appreciate you. I was just looking to see if you updated. I know you’ve been busy. Your videos are sick man. Hope the pup is okay

[@covertgoblue]

I appreciate that

[@m.mudassirsheikh7232]

Been playin' 2 copies of Zareth San in my rogues deck. So far I've stolen 3x Nighthawk Scavangers, 2x Ugins, 2x Terror of the Peaks and a Slitherwisp. Card is sweet.

[@RoyalAssassinBE]

Yeah 2 of those seems good. I have taken a few questing beasts. Elder gargaroth. Narset and omnath today. Always fun to kill them with their own creatures.

[@fabiomogicato9405]

Nighthawk Scavenger‘s my favourite new card from ZRN. It‘s so solid and it‘ll also see play in Mono B decks, I am assuming. The card is just so flexible because of the defensive power of deathtouch or the offensive power of lifelink... I immediately crafted 4 of ‘em... (Probably should have crafted Lotus Cobra, but I‘m dumb)

[@dittmar104]

Yeah could be good in mono black discard or in conrad brawl

[@GrugGangGrugGang]

It's kinda sad how hard it shits on it's older brother, but powercreep.

[@Th3M4k40n]

Vampire Nighthawk was one of my favorite cards back in the day so was happy to see this come. Funnily enough getting multiple packs once a day landed me 3 Nighthawks already :)

[@GozMaster]

CKC check in: saw the whole video and it was glorious. Quarantine dad tales. Been playing arena for over a year, but stopped after eldrain because of a move. But had stored quite a bit of resources in wild cards, gold, and gems. My 11 year old is heavy into MTG so when arena came to mac I let him use my account to play against his older brother, you probably can guess where this is going... After watching CGB's live stream I got excited for the new set! Logged into my account, went to craft a deck and... ...no wildcards. My son had used over 30 of my rare/mythic rare wild cards to craft Timmy decks. Sigh.

[@hollyabair]

I stayed til the end. I haven't played in a long time and I've been thinking of getting back into the hobby. A lot of your builds are fire

[@HanHorlings]

29:50 obviously, you can kick bloodchief thirst. Cast for B, kick for 2B.

[@jabendeacon]

Not sure what he thought he needed.

[@nomakgaming7257]

21:49 "I can burp" is this a new meta cgb you're holding back!

[@barge489]

This is one of the rare instances where what I like playing (mill) is actually good. Switched out 5 or 6 cards (biggest one off the top of my head was dropping to Agadim's for 2 blackbloom rogues) and basically flew through platinum with an 88% win rate in about 2 hours and change, this is going to be a fun standard :)

[@matimon]

I've been playing Ghostly Pilferer in my rogues deck as I keep being paired against adventures and/or Uro. Works really nice!

[@leimad13]

I made one today, went 10 wins in a row in ranked Platinum. Pretty amazing deck. Got 2x Rankle and 3x Zareth and 4xthat Rogue/Land. Was insanely surprised how well it does!

[@fridgefridge3240]

I m more surprised of the 10 wins. Not because it's not a good deck. But because when I played other decks at least 60% decks I faced were rogue decks as well

[@leimad13]

@@fridgefridge3240 Played the very same deck today, started at Plat 1 and 7 wins got me to Plat 1.2 lol. Faced a lot of mirror matches and a lot of Omnath/adventure god hands. What a contrast to yesterday haha.

[@dittmar104]

My favourite thing is stealing their fabled passage and ramping to have a counter spell available.

[@somekindadragon3414]

I’m intrigued by this deck though I don’t play much Dmir, and yes, stayed for the cool kids club ending

[@JakeHowlHero]

Ohhh another color combination that I like, thanks for the content as always

[@covertgoblue]

Glad you like it!

[@jacknelson8640]

Thank you CGB ! I have been playing 'Dimir Flash' for so long !!!! And now I get to play this eeeppppppp

[@simonchi5372]

Thanks for the videos, i'm trying to craft my own decks right now because there is a lot of fun possibilities, it's such a shame that every single person is playing these decks in unranked queue, i just scoop immediatly and hope to find a person who is not playing Omnath, rogues, mill or mono-green. It just reeks of cowardice to see these good decks in unranked.

[@dinklebob1]

It's the Arena grind. People just want their wins for the day as quickly as possible, and if that means beating up on jank in the Play queue rather than facing straight meta decks in Ranked, that's what they'll do.

[@leehunt6031]

Definitely excited to play this deck especially with the adjustments you recommended in the end

[@micahevans2401]

I found that running the Vantress Gargoyle worked well with Maddening Cacophony (MC). MC also helped ensure my rogues were always bigger.

[@TheNewDrSpilikin]

Such a fun deck... for the person playing it 😂😂

[@xzaxeousx571]

Lol....fun?

[@rahulkalita5527]

I hate this deck

[@war_turtle7066]

Thassa is a really good card I’ve used due to the blink ability making a rogue re enter triggering multiple mill abilities

[@danagray9709]

So this is why I keep seeing this deck. To be clear, I've been thrashing this deck all morning. Red Deck Wins crushes it with no problem unless I draw really poorly (happened in two games out of the 20+ that I played)

[@Nelg_of_the_trashfolk]

Well look at that! CGB just killing cobras instead of crying "BAN" in the corner and clutching a Scourge Of The Sky Claves body pillow. Good work!

[@mascheforza8267]

i stayed until the end and thanks for your deck rap up! It always helps a lot :) (Btw hope your doggo is doing better)

[@vidividivicious]

Lurrus is a great addition to the rogue deck. We also have to keep in mind that the next set will include more rogues. So, this is a deck that will stay with us until rotation

[@DJKutafix]

My favourite MTG content creator! Thanks for all this hard work man.

[@covertgoblue]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@simonrobinson8065]

Awesome, as always CGB, many thanks. I'd love to see how you'd update your Vadrok deck, now that the amass cards have rotated.

[@ExplosiveFetus]

"Thanks, I hate it" is a good description. I'm so sick of playing against it 50% of the time already, and it doesn't even seem that good because my Cleric deck has had good success against it with all it's lifegain, + counters, and reanimation. Guys, please try some more variety. And by variety I don't mean "I'll make an Omnath deck too!"

[@marc-andrepicard8531]

I love watching you playing with the smile that rogue trigger on you CGB !

[@boneyplays]

I'm a cool kid. I like both Zareth and Awakening. With Zareth I've milled and played the opponents Ugin on turn 4 on the play. When Zareth hits he is a powerhouse though somewhat situational. Turn 6 Awakening is a great value swing, pull enforcer, thought thief and a big juicy scavenger... feels real good.

[@ryanxvx]

What do you think of a one-off Lochmere Serpent? I get into a lot of stalematey games with this deck where an unblockable 7/7 could potentially help a lot.

[@styfen]

Wrong deck archetype. Especially for Bo1. Don't dilute your focus. You're already playing a deck that feeds Uro, so you need to stay narrow and tight like a razor blade.

[@ryanxvx]

@@styfen Good point, and thanks for responding. I'm still fairly new to competitive Magic so I have a hard time not just playing cards because I like them haha.

[@jorgamund07]

@@ryanxvx He's right that it dilutes your deck. But if you've got a serpent already, and you're new-ish to the game, go ahead and throw 1 in the deck and play 5-6 games anyway. You'll get a feel for why it seems awkward in such deck types (can't cast it, game ends too early, opponent has answers, etc). And then you can apply that experience to your next deck ideas.

[@ryanxvx]

@@jorgamund07 That's a great idea. Best way to make it make sense is to feel it out for myself.

[@MrFedericomartani]

I am Exedeb, the first guy you played, it was fun! Really was unlucky with mana, that plains really fucked me up, hahaha And no Omnath ... I modified the deck a little, taking out the crabs and adding powerful value cards like ugin, embercleave and terror of the peaks.. As i told you on twitter, i'm coming for rank 1, see ya there!!

[@illumidas]

I have Syr Konrad in my Rogue Mill deck pinging 1 damage for each creature that leaves the battlefield and exiled from a graveyard. Lot of fun to see mills be worth damage when playing both as and against Rogue Mill.

[@fudgemanfui]

My first day of playing rogues I took someone’s ugin and it was an immediate scoop

[@MarcoVanotti]

Was this today against a mono green deck? It was me. Instant scoop. The only ugin in my deck.

[@fudgemanfui]

Marco nah this was Friday, dimir is my go to so I was excited to craft up the rogue deck first thing

[@FAFRO]

Was it against an omnath deck?

[@fudgemanfui]

Dipl0matt yep about to go off but I had drowned omnath in the loch already, that deck is a timebomb

[@fudgemanfui]

Corpsefoot Gaming it’s actually really fun to steal a robber of the rich and hit red mages with their own cards off both robber and Zareth San almost want to try grixis rogues with Zareth Robber and maybe that Vampire rogue for late game

[@eightys_style6077]

You have to take out the temples to fix the land base oddly enough, but it works, run 24 lands, the flip lands are fine, and cut the fabled passages also, they're to slow.

[@theredbeardedfox3110]

Loved the crushing of the mono red decks

[@Mr_Dopey]

Mr_Dopey here. If I can recommend one card for Dimir Rogues it would be Mogis's Favor. It kills so many threats in standard. In the mirror match it can kill a threat, increase tempo, and lower graveyard count. Sticking it on something with lifelink can race most decks with enough removal. Thanks for the criticism, I should have sacked in response! Good luck!

[@beit46]

I always do dear CGB, the best part are at the beginning and at the end for me :D

[@covertgoblue]

You are a very cool kid.

[@micahturner5599]

I binge played yesterday. Had agadeem's awakening played in this she'll twice on me. That's me playing other people, not me playing the card; On the other hand, the players who did that lost those games. This deck kills quick. You get to awakening phase, you probably already lost. #my2cents

[@adogawa1974]

I always stay till the end :D Awakening has done some cool stuff late game against shatter and the like. So, in best of 3 sideboard, in best of one....well thats to be seen.

[@leosc24]

"Insert complaining shuffler thingy" 🤣🤣 Bro I freakin love you!!

[@AxiomofDiscord]

If a new set has a another rogue to bounce rogues for retriggers that is a lower casting cost that will be so awesome. Maybe a kicker that is just to return a rogue to your hand and if you do opponent must bounce a non-land permanent of choice or something mild like that.

[@Arcticsharpshooter]

43:14 you missed the opportunity to sac the 1 mana merfolk to draw a card and have it in your graveyard for Agadeem's Awakening.

[@benbuman8832]

Deck idea: you use the enchantment "solemnity" from amonkhet which prevents any type of counters from going onto permanents. You combine this enchantment with luminous broodmoth and kroxa. Since the luminous broodmoth cant put flying counters on the kroxa, it keeps respawning and its ETB keeps triggering until the opponent's hand is gone. Then after that, it does three damage every EBT and then you win

[@mattd3978]

Cool kids club checking in, also meant to say on the other video, praying for you and your precious pooch. As you said, don't feel obligated, but I also respect your desire to bring joy to others

[@covertgoblue]

Thank you

[@mattd3978]

@@covertgoblue most welcome

[@spuds4ever]

Been playing a flash-heavy more controlly version of rogues with pilferer, omen of the sea, rewind and slitherwisp over the most non-flash cards in the deck. Works pretty well, idk if anyone has seen any good lists of more controlling rogues but would be interested in seeing your take on that approach. Also definitely keen to see a lurrus rogues list. Final point, cling to dust is excellent in rogues for the mirror and exiling titans.

[@DatHarlequinOni]

Zerith San is always good. If you have an unblocked 1/1 you can pay four mana to turn it into a 4/4. Even if you don't trigger his ability that's much more damage and it's difficult to interact with to boot.

[@thisismatticus]

In the last game, countering Terror of the Peaks and then playing Brazen Borrower could have set you up to bring Zareth in to get Terror out of their graveyard and then had Petty Theft up to bounce any threats they could have on their next turn (if they blocked one of the Enforcers). It would also have saved 3 life, though that wasn't really relevant at that point. Also, them having Ruin Crab and Terror of the Peaks in the same deck seems kind of awkward. Enjoyed the video and watching this deck work.

[@wrydrune]

Could have countered the terror with drown. Ninja in zareth since 1 of the enforcers would have to be unblocked. Get terror, replay the enforcer with the leftover black.

[@thisismatticus]

wrydrune That would have worked too.

[@psteels]

Yep that was the obvious play, CGB must be tired :)

[@gauchofromhell]

As someone that plays a monored sometimes, luckily most people that copy your decks are poor pilots for them. I ate a few iterations of this deck with my monored :P I hope the pup is doing better!

[@cb94z]

CKC check in. Thanks for the video! How's your dog doing? My cats send their well wishes.

[@mayuubi3821]

Love the content hope u doin well i put Drana the Bloodthief also in the deck to permanently get more creatures outta my yard

[@crowley5125]

Proud member of the cool kids club!

[@covertgoblue]

You are cool.

[@sequoiariihiluoma6379]

What about zulaport duelist, I'm playing it in my rogue's deck and it seems pretty strong when blocking

[@dinklebob1]

No flying and no card draw is rough though. Unless you're cutting something besides the Windrobber, which I think would be a mistake. Flash is a huge plus, but I think Windrobber wins due to evasion, card draw, and instant sac speed (how many times did he fizzle an adventure?)

[@sequoiariihiluoma6379]

@@dinklebob1 I cut the bloodchiefs thirst for it, the best feeling is when you flash in the cutthroat on turn 2 and block a 0/1 lotus cobra

[@jamesferry6717]

My problem with mill strats right now is that there are no cards in standard that let you shuffle your yard back in to your deck save some awful blue one that require several turns to make happen. Gaea's blessing, we finally need you!

[@DepravedMorgath]

Think we used to have Loaming Shaman in MTG 2020...But it rotated out :(

[@lukasmischlich1178]

As a long time dimir player who loves the whole rogue flavor, I'm super bummed out that they made rogues such a cooky-cutter build. All the cards just fit together way to easily, I much preferred Dimir flash befor, where you had to really put some work in deck building and piloting to make it work. Countering enemies key cards, holding spells, playing completely different game plans in every match-up. Now you just spam all the rogues, go for the beat down, easily having answers with drown in the Loch with all the free milling, playing like a monored player and it will probably work out fine. Same with historic rogues, it just seems so stuffed now, that it lost alot of its creativity and skill aspects. Winning is alot easier now so I guess the mythic grind won't be too bad, but I really prefer making underdog decks work in the meta than beeing the meta.

[@elerai1496]

Oh really? Trust me, when you go up against the cancer that is Uro, you'll be rethinking your life decisions. No, I'm not talking about lotus cobra Omnath Uro, I'm talking about the various control Uros like Sultai Jace/Sea-Gate Stormcaller Control (for example). You stand no chance against those in Bo1, and extremely slim chance in Bo3. Literally the only reason this has to play in a hyper-aggressive style, ditch all value and control cards (like Call/Lurrus in that game) is because you just can't outvalue Uro, you can only race them with borrower. Gargoyle also had to be cut, because it makes this deck even more vulnerable to Uro than it already is.

[@I_AM_IRON_VAN]

Hella hype music :D

[@joec1060]

Call of the death dweller is really good here. It can bring an enforcer and the lord or just 2 enforcers back or in a real pinch 1 nighthawk and give it menace. Lots of great plays if you've had the right cards come and go. Let's you be a bit more aggressive with the enforcers too. Make trades and slam them back.

[@MrNoFairy]

"It doesn't obey me, it cooperates with me" is Kazandu Mamooth's flavor text btw. I don't know why it's an emote tho.

[@brewcrew7550]

These emotes are just a mess! Good job WOTC. I know in the survey I filled out I suggested that they give more options for emotes that you can plug in. But I didn't say they should be unusable nonsense. WTF

[@realfeli6343]

Because Obey Corporate is a real thing my dude... Read "Presuasion" by R. Cialdini, everybody in marketing does.

[@brewcrew7550]

@@realfeli6343 No, no, I get it. It is still nonsense. Just another set of nerds trying to show their intellectual prowess with absolutely zero emotional intelligence like most of the MTG community. 😂

[@hansdieter8801]

Isn´t this quote just about working together with the nature instead of exploit it?

[@realfeli6343]

@@hansdieter8801 sure dude, streamers working together with nature, of course

[@nickbalmes6640]

Hyped for more Dimir :)

[@crashking9930]

Loved Dimir mill even before Zendikar but this deck has just been insane. I am playing erebos's intervention though to play against uro.

[@jkirchge]

Hey CGB - Hope everything is alright with your doggo

[@covertgoblue]

Thanks for the sub and well wishes!

[@futuropasado]

Zareth san is great. Not always needed but and its not the most important but this deck is many times ahead and Zareth finishes the game, theres a reason why many are playing it in this deck. Respect Zareth power.

[@tedayism.3101]

The nighthawk scavenger would be great with a glimpse the unthinkable mill deck

[@skywalltrinah115]

Have you considered Erebos Intervention over Bloodchief's Thirst? It looks after cobra easily but also peels Uro out of the yard. I'm using it instead.

[@boneyplays]

That's an interesting pick. I don't like Thirst because of the Sorcery speed. I was playing Eliminate but late game it would sometimes be a dead card in my hand. The only issue I have with Erebos is that you loose the planeswalker destroy option from Thirst or Eliminate. Edit: I've given some thought on Erebos and I think you're right about it's inclusion in the deck. I had a match against a deck that was running Skyclave Shades and it out valued me in every was. It was big enough to kill most of the creatures in the deck and just kept swinging every turn and landfalling back to the field. Erebos can take care of stuff like Uro of any regenerating creature that may hit the graveyard through the milling.

[@Nereknu93]

44:09 don't they name odd or even when it's already resolving?

[@CromCruachTheElderK]

29:50 why didn't you use the Thirst on Omnath? You said it can't be kicked but it costs 4 kicked. You also had double Black. I am confused.

[@lifeisawesome1391]

The better Lurrus rogue deck I saw plays Gargoyle and ghastly (?) pilferer

[@wewrumtg8507]

Nice deck, I'm running similar but with more counter spells.

[@MatataMcCleskey]

I run mogis favors and sanitarium skeletons to counter. Cling to dust in the rogue deck keeps them safe from getting mogis killed repeatedly.

[@toodefect2849]

Hey cgb what do you think about mind drain? It’s amazing in draft.

[@joec1060]

Probably a bunch of people saying this, but rogues brought me to mythic today

[@GregTom2]

This deck really seems like a fun deck to play. I'm going to craft it.

[@rachmatmulia2349]

This is my new favorite deck now LoL

[@Nic_7177]

Intro plays - hits the like button! 😁

[@DJSoSadRN]

Flying Men: a Magic card on the verge of not being good enough for its namesake Canadian Highlander deck.

[@hansherrera5321]

I have a feeling Witch's vengeance is gonna come in handy this meta

[@CenJohan]

Vampire nighthawk must be so proud of his descendant

[@Chaoslorden]

And this is why I don't build a deck without escape or alot of removal. Frigggin thieves! Get yer hands of me stuff!

[@RowinMarkov]

Super cool how vampire nighthawk was already crazy good... and now there is just a stronger, cheesier version of him.

[@weitaoshi4017]

Me: I love it CGB: What? it's an hour long video and it's been 6 minutes Me: I love it anyways

[@IlanPerez]

Having such good results with this deck

[@vidividivicious]

Is there a card that returns a creature to the top of the library in blue or black this set? We could do that and mill

[@foolish137]

Been seeing rogues and omnaths a lot so i made a dimir control with stormcaller to crush em and it was fun until I keep seeing monoreds in higher ranked

[@fordesgol7947]

Awesome as always. Deleted an hour of my lifetime again thanks fo dat!

[@bobmarthins]

I've been looking forward to this

[@Amia_Lily]

I'm experimenting a jeskai deck with narsett and the new Jace, it's been working pretty well so far

[@Strongwolf14]

It's only been a few days and I'm already done with being matched up against this deck two out of every three games.

[@firestarter77]

Preach

[@JohnDoe-zx1ck]

It's this and lotus cobra. Nothing else, at all. Thought I did run into a rakdos rogue deck. It was kinda neat.

[@Strongwolf14]

@@JohnDoe-zx1ck This is why I think there is something up with matchmaking in ranked and it isn't even remotely random. I know a ton of people are playing against lotus cobra, but I've only seen it once or twice since Thursday and only seen decks it would be a must play in a handful of times. I'd love to see the list for that Rakdos rogues, it was one of the first things that crossed my mind when I saw some card previews, wonder if they use MTGA Assistant.

[@JohnDoe-zx1ck]

@@Strongwolf14 I think it's the whole enforced 50% win rate thing people talk about sometime. I'm running an yorion pile that blinks massacre wurm. It does pretty good against Dimir rogues, I'd say 60-70 I win. On the other hand, I lose very often to lotus cobra+omnath+ultimatum+ugin on turn 5, go figure. My only wins are games I drew 3 shatter the skys and stall them out blinking elspeth conquers death and they literally run out of cards, or drop a wurm on 40 or so scute bugs. That said I win a game, maybe two then get put against that deck until I'm back where I started. Its miserable and boring. As for rakdos rogues, I didn't see much of it, it was very effective and milled all of my spot removal lol. It had Thieves Guild Enforcer, Robber of the Rich, Relic Robber, Heartless Act, and Mires Grasp. I expect there was a lurrus too because of grasp, but didnt see it. Hope that helps you build it.

[@Strongwolf14]

@@JohnDoe-zx1ck Yep, I think you are absolutely right. I can easily tell both when the game wants me to win and wants me to lose to keep me around that 50%. I use mono red to farm my wins in ranked so I can fuel the actual fun decks to play and that deck is so easy to tell when they want me to win, its called 2 lands, Double Fervent, Robber, Anax, and Cleave opening hand.

[@gee3161]

Thanks CGB!

[@covertgoblue]

Any time!

[@evandrorsfaria]

it's a rogue Ninjutsu dude! ♥

[@i3azzle]

In my rogues deck I run the rogue land cards (shapeshifter and the menace one). Seem a LOT better than temples.

[@ИванСкворцов-п7о]

This mythic land wins mirrors, it's really cool! PS. We need azorius control!