Chevy Ripped Me Off : Undercover - Car Dealer Reacts

[@jimowens381]

I needed an extra key for my Honda Pilot. I called the local dealership and they wanted $90 per key, I needed two. I went on Amazon and bought the keys for under $20. I then got ahold of a local locksmith and they programmed both of the keys for $40. It took him all of 10 minutes to complete the job. Dealerships are such ripoffs!

[@crimestoppers1877]

See my post above. Honda Service quoted me $1,200 to "repair" my ignition lock. A locksmith repaired the lock and gave me two new replacement keyfobs for less than $150.

[@jimowens381]

@@crimestoppers1877 Wow, I just read your original post. What a robber they wanted to be. I'm glad you found a better, and cheaper alternative.

[@jamespfitz]

$30 to have it done right by the experts? Cheap.

[@ookookook]

I get blurring the individuals, but the dealership needs to be named and shamed. That's predatory pricing. ...and what where the other points in the multi-point???

[@justacinnamonbun8658]

I agree but franchise dealerships usually have deep pockets and lawyers that go along with those deep pockets. They can easily drag these people into a courtroom for defamation even though they may not win that's besides the point of why he's placing cameras in the vehicle, he just wants to let the world know, do what you can to stay away from dealerships in general. If you watch this and you still go into a dealership to buy a new car and you didn't like the experience or you take your car into service at one of these dealerships and you didn't like the experience, and you have the gall to complain about it, you really should have your head examined.

[@adamhayes9203]

Pretty easy to know the dealership.. all franchise dealerships are the same. Coast to coast, this is nothing new

[@s99614]

That quote is actually cheap by car dealer standards.

[@BREEZYM6015]

I'm sure they blur it for legal reasons.

[@federal6616]

Multi points are free. And I usually have to ask them to fill it out after they take my money 😮

[@wolfurystryxx5878]

These dealers should be identified. If they feel ok with overcharging customers, then they shouldn’t be embarrassed if they are exposed for it. This is what happens when dealers are given free reign to legally rob people. I only use dealers for warranty work.

[@mikelarry2602]

Franchise laws are screws us so bad.

[@bobirving9915]

Undercover investigations should be carried out on ALL dealerships and where corruption is discovered they should be named and shamed.

[@blackvulcan100]

If you ask me all main dealers all over the world most are crooks and legalised robbers. I am from the UK it's bad over here especially if you have little or no knowledge they will try to rip you.

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

👍🏼

[@mr.independent3501]

And also fine the heck out of them

[@marcyounker6379]

Criminal prosecution for fraud and theft and deceptive business practices.. heck Walmart has people prosecuted for stealing a bag of m& m s come on now

[@rogerringold616]

Owner should be exposed .... Predatory price gouging.... The business license put in 6 mo probation and IRS FORENSIC AUDIT....public apology. Response from GM HQ...

[@gordonclark7632]

In Australia, I phoned the local Kia dealer to get a quote for a replacement key and fob for my wife's Picanto. They quoted $800 for the replacement key and another $800 for the programming. I went to an independent who supplied and programmed the new key for $249.00 (Au)

[@kirkdunn1379]

Only use dealers for warranty work, never for service....known that since I was a kid in 80s

[@fromthebackofmymind]

They tamper with the car during warranty for future major system failure.

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

Bingo! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@jeffbryan3224]

I got upset when a Chrysler dealership wanted $22 for an ignition key copy. Back then I just went to Wallmart and got one for $2. You're ALWAYS ahead in the game if you're BANNED from a dealership!

[@mirage711]

Thank you so much for showing me this I'm getting so sick and tired of dealers ripping people off. I've been doing my own repairs on my little Chevy bolt which doesn't need any repairs since it's electric but to have somebody like this out there is God sent for a lot of people during hard times people still taking advantage of people and dealers will never stop.

[@sammy60164]

I bought a key off Amazon for my sister's 2017 Chevy Trax for like $17. Took it to ace to cut, I was shocked it was $70 PER KEY to cut, then $30 to program, I programmed it myself, literally stick existing key in turn it to accessory, turn it off, immediately put new key in turn it to accessory and it's programmed. I was still shocked at the $70 to cut it, took a minute to cut. Still WAY cheaper then dealer.

[@MonkeyPunchZPoker]

How in the world is he going to fill up his washer fluid tank if he is banned from the dealership?

[@conservatron]

No kidding. That and replacing his Winter tire Nitrogen for Summer Nitrogen

[@stanleyreynolds7800]

My Volkswagen dealership wanted over $500 to make me a duplicate key. I had to bring in the car, key and proof of ownership. Then after about 10 days they would have a new key ready for me. I called around and found a locksmith who would come to my house, make and program the key for under $300. Took him about 45 minutes. Still robbery, but it didn't hurt as much.

[@Papolucho702]

Most of that was the time spent between the drive and the job itself. You did well! And supported an individual.

[@RandomCaliforniaAdventure]

$300 compared to $500? I called a third party and it cost me $250 for a pair of keys for my 2019 Tacoma. It would've been more like $700+ easily with my Toyota dealer

[@stanleyreynolds7800]

Brag, Brag, Brag.@@RandomCaliforniaAdventure

[@steveolive9991]

Car dealers ripping people off is old news. Very few dealerships are honest and competent.

[@timkis64]

anyone half mechanically inclined should consider buying 80s thru early 2000 models.none of this dealer BS. where brand new parts need to be programed before it can be functional.people could save themselves untold thousands over the years.BEFORE the automakers quality avalanched into the pits of hell.& GREED took over as top priority.

[@jayc4715]

Too old

[@paulmarc-aurele5508]

I found a low mileage Lexus Es330 which has Camry drive train, other than it not having all of the modern bells and whistles it drives incredible. I could buy a new car cash but used cars that are in great shape makes financial sense.

[@420growers3]

Look at a mazda, they even still have a dipstick for the trans and no cvt

[@jeremytaunton8813]

I bought a '05 ram with 66k miles. A second key 🗝️ was $4.00. truck runs well and parts aren't too pricey.

[@Jimster481]

@@420growers3Yea but lots of AI stuff and Mazda Connect now too. Mazda stealing your phone contacts and stuff too.... really shitty.

[@goodtimejohnny8972]

I just did 2 keys for $90. Not at a stealership. Programming was done under 5 minutes!

[@s99614]

My car uses regular keys that I can have duplicated for $5 at Home Depot

[@sgtcrab2569]

In Nova Scotia Canada I had a manifold exhaust gasket replaced today for $70 CDN on a Rav 4. at a private repair shop. 30 minutes! On the hoist...find the problem...fix it! happy! Can you imagine what a Toyota dealer would have charged!

[@Papolucho702]

4x that easily lol

[@supersteve8305]

Criminals hate cameras. That's why the criminals banned him from their crime scene.

[@thelefthandedshooter381]

I used Tom’s Key to program my Toyota keys. Bought a used Toyota and of course the dealership didn’t have but one key and said a second key would take a week and $300+ because the “guy” that cuts the keys only comes to the dealership once a week. Used Tom’s service, bought full function fobs from Amazon. 3 fobs programmed and 3 back up keys cut at local locksmith…….$280. New keys through the dealership is a rip off.

[@Jeffrey7348]

I just had my Toyota RAV4 push button key fob duplicated. It included fob, key, code and program, it totaled $180 OTD. I had it done from a locksmith. This was the cheapest quote I found, many of the other locksmith's were much more. And of course dealership was more than double. It works good and supported small business.

[@jayc4715]

Or get on KZbin and do it yourself

[@Jeffrey7348]

​@@jayc4715how o you cut that thin key?

[@jayc4715]

@@Jeffrey7348 buy the key online..have the dealer cut it..then program it yourself using KZbin..that's what I've done in the past.. I think it's $12 or something to cut it

[@thomasperina2990]

Hello Mr. & Mrs. Brandon: I left a nice comment on your Car Edge appearance today + your generosity for the fight against cancer drive in the name of Ray & Zach. This video is definitely a gotcha moment but to avoid this all you must do is tell the truth. Unfortunately this is very short commodity in the automotive industry. Thank you again guys, God Bless, & Merry Christmas to all. TMP from N.J. 🙏.

[@larrylamb3480]

I've always known for years that stealerships will rip you off for service and sales !

[@tamjeanell]

All dealerships should get a secret camera review...

[@CobaltLobster]

For Fords you can program your own key if you have the original 2 without anything special. It's literally in the manual (as of 2018 model year at least.)

[@s99614]

Or ForScan.

[@Primetimenewsome]

I’ve always thought dealerships are evil.

[@tomhiggins875]

In 2022 I purchased 2 key fobs and 2 keys on Amazon for $19.95 for my 2012 Lincoln Town Car and brought it to the dealer where they programmed both for only $60 in less than 30 minutes. I thought that was reasonable. Good on my dealer. It's good to know about another option if there is a next time.

[@KeepingItKeith]

Book time is the standard time across the board. No mechanic should be punished for being better than the average.

[@waynerain2372]

Pure Gold. Bro I look fwd to seeing ur 2024 video's. Merry Christmas. Peace on Earth.

[@CQALive]

Thank you so much for saying that!

[@No.1headbanger]

Be sure to check your blinker fluid, always need that😁

[@georgeperez4770]

I had to program my key fob after finding out how much it was from the dealership. Turns out you don't need a computer because the owners manual will walk you through it. So, I purchased the fobs on Amazon and had the keys cut by a.locksmith. Cost me less than $120, and the dealership wanted about the same like in the video.

[@bam530530]

Replaced my cab filter one week before oil change only to have a the service manager come out with a dirty cab filter saying I need a new one. Told him I replaced it the week earlier and he just turned and threw the filter in the trash. Mark your wheels and filters to see if they actually do the service.

[@chrishollis6015]

I put a big red X with a marker on them so they see it. I never get the "you need a new filter" BS.

[@atruceforbruce5388]

Hoselton chevy in NY sold me a chevy tahoe with a bunch of broken stuff in the vehicle and then lied to to me and said "we told you it had all this broken stuff in the car when we sold it" when I brought it in to express what I noticed, however i wore a body camera when i bought it. Than the sales maneger said "well he never liked the feature on the car so they were not going to fix it."

[@ericd1084]

I live in Vietnam. The mechanic replaced all of the power locks mechanisms and the keys with two new key fobs on my 1990 Toyota Corona for 225 US dollars. That's for parts and labor.

[@jimowens381]

I used toms keys once for a replacement key for my equinox. It was an "ok" process and the key did end up working. But they made a mistake with my order which took about a week to straighten out. The worst of it was is that you never speak to a person. It's all on email or text and many time they don't get back with you. If someone ever answered a phone there, the process would be a lot smoother, especially if a mistake has been made.

[@petayV8]

The video was entertaining. But i wouldn't I use Tom's keys either!

[@bdd1469]

While this is excessive, I would invite any arm chair quarter backs to investigate how much it costs to run a licensed, insured, automotive repair facility. I guarantee you will be amazed at how much money needs to be generated just to keep the lights on, let alone make a profit.

[@MrBaskins2010]

your wife is so wholesome and then you come with the enthusiastic "CROTCH CAM!". Love the duality of this channel lol

[@Twinjeremy]

I hate car dealerships, terrible places to be, terrible places to talk to

[@ChristSavesUs]

I don't know about newer GM vehicles but i have a 2000 Chevy Impala and i can program key fobs through the factory radio. It only takes a few mins and is very easy. Just hold in the bottom big turn knob for 10 seconds and it'll bring up the menu. Use the 1st preset buttons to navigate the menu i think, and push in the bottom turn knob as the " Enter" button. There are many other options on that menu also. Reset the oil life meter, turn on off the alarm and other selections. DIY is the best way when you can do it. Too many crooks in the world today. You can look up the process on KZbin to see it and know all the procedure.

[@ACEGAMER120]

So funny thing about programming new keys for a lot of GM vehicles, you dont even need an OBD tool if you have a working key. You can literally just put the known good key in, turn to ON position, shut it off, remove it, insert the new key, turn to ON position, wait for security light to turn off, turn it off and its good to go. Dealership wanted to charge me an hour for that as well. Absolutely ridiculous

[@allenm00]

One of my friends had a keyfob battery changed on his Nissan at the dealership. He didn't ask how much ahead of time. They charged him $300 for that. He was beside himself.

[@josephkelleher8820]

I had my keyfob battery changed at the Niissan dealership and it cost me 10 bucks. Small town dealership is probably why.

[@Time2Vote2012]

I hate to say it, but the guy that made this video is always looking to crater somebody for various services, but as you explained prices is based on the BOOK PRICE. Not sticking up for the service guy, but he's doing his job. No authority, just an employee.

[@petershaver5006]

I absolutely love transparency

[@commonsenseisntcommon1776]

If only we had it for elections

[@cwqrpportable]

@@commonsenseisntcommon1776 Six courts all told Trump he lost the election, so did his AG, so did Pat Cipollone (the white house lawyer) and so did anyone with any integrity. How's it feel to be duped by a narcissistic billionaire?

[@timnevitt2993]

a lot of dealers are over charging on msrp on parts so u got to look out for that

[@tg8150]

If I ever have to go to a dealership, it’s to look at or buy a vehicle. After that, I will never return unless I have a warranty claim. I do all my own service. If you take your vehicle to a stealership for service other than a specific warranty claim or recall, you deserve to get ripped off. That’s how they make money- off of helpless, ignorant vehicle owners.

[@shag139]

What he should have done is gone to local media and see if they had the balls to go ask them.

[@kennethross786]

In east TN most independent shops are $80-105/hour. Dealer service labor rates are higher and I actually trust my two local independent shops more than the dealer. When I needed a new key for my Explorer I priced it at the dealer, then went to a local locksmith shop. Took about 20 minutes and the cost was half what the dealer wanted.

[@WilliamBenoit-gh5lz]

I have a 2004 Chevy Silverado and just had to replace the key fob with a new one because after almost 20 years the case was cracked and was barely working. I went to a local lock smith and they had one for 95 dollars plus tax. I wasn't charged anything eles and had it programed in less than 10 minutes while I stood and watched, and when he finished gave me the directions he just printed up.

[@Thisishard2333]

My daughter and I always check out the cars before our annual inspection. Pull off the tires to check the pads and if they are even 50%, we replace them ourselves. They had the nerve to say brakes were low and 4 out of 6 marker lights were not working.I drove a truck for 52 years. And every morning I had to do a DOT inspection before I pulled out.

[@lawman5511]

Look around a new car dealership. It’s a palace, in most cases. The fifth highest earners in American are auto dealership owners. Average yearly earnings are around two million. The have a multi million dollar overhead. Paid for by YOU.

[@tedhamilton2362]

I paid $125 for 4-wheel balancing that never happened. They were 2nd shop to claim to balance this set of tires. First was the shop that installed and charged for mounting and balancing (NOT). Then, Chevy dealer (NOT). Then GoodYear balanced the set for $100. So, over $300 to balance this set. I will go directly to Goodyear in future.

[@stevemalone2010]

Right on guys, thanks for posting this.

[@alexanderspenser4960]

Every GM dealer I've been to works with same M-O! It's pretty standard for the service department to check everything from the tires & wheels to the roof. As long as there's a profit center, they're going to check and report back to you. Washer fluid and even a quick wash is complementary. I need to have my radio reprogrammed to the BCM, at $165 p/h, my own key and fob programmed @ $65 each. That's the way it is. Where can I get a Tech II scanner and have the job done under $300? That franchise and building and tax and workman's comp and insurance cost.

[@dwightdodd3734]

Yeah,my local Chev dealer wanted 180.00 to program my chev trailblazers radio( got one used off the net) orig one used to drop the volume or quit entirely...they wouldnt guarantee my wrecking yard one of course and wouldnt give me a credit if it didnt work for some reason... neat little fact , when you chande your battery in a 2004 trailblazer,your ac and heater/defroster doesent remember what to do..

[@tamjeanell]

I go to the dealer for an oil change and to get my multipoint inspection...once they tell me my trouble spots I take it to my mechanic! It's always cheaper at my mechanic....last time I had to ask twice for my inspection...I think the dealer finally knows what I'm doing...

[@shopart1488]

I bought a new key for my Ford at ACE and programmed it myself in their parking lot cost around $25 a few years back.

[@jackblack3886]

Informative and entertaining!! No wonder they are labeled as stealerships. Thanks for the podcast & covert videos!

[@CQALive]

Glad you like them!

[@kylemartin7557]

What he is understating, is you can program 4 keys with his system, so it really is a good value, have bought several for my used vehicles I buy

[@thomashopkins2509]

This is the crap that p me off. I worked at a shop over 30 yr ago that did this ame bs. I wa told to recomend bearing packs etc which I never did. I believed then and still believe be honest with the cust. I was talked to by management several times but I still refuwd

[@Nathanwilson-x3h]

Some of the keys have a security protocol that has a time of 10 minutes using a programmer. Not usually the fob.

[@dtaposse8858]

Thats why it's called the stealership

[@RoscoeS]

When purchasing a Car some dealers will offer a 200.00 add on for a 3 year 2 fobs per year loss replacement. I would say if it is offered when purchasing a car I would do the add on as it pays for itself if you lose a key fob. All in all though there is cheaper ways to get after market replacements but always have two keys for your car and change your Batteries in your fob yearly to keep them up and running.

[@ram89572]

The CDJR dealers told my dad to get a replacement key and and set up for his 2017 Ram 1500 with the stick it in the dashboard style fob key that it was going to be about $700 to make him a 2nd key. I got him one of these Simple Key key/programmers for $125 and it just worked. So that's my personal experience with this particular system.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

"Flat Rate" versus Reality Service's greatest profit generator. This is TYPICAL, not a one off example.

[@glenn9989]

I’m a retired mechanic you don’t need the scan tool . The new cars have it so easy it’s like put the new key in the cup holder turn on the key wait 10 seconds and it’s done 🥴

[@merlingriffin3861]

I lost my only working key/fob for my 2012 Honda CR-V. I called one locksmith I used before, but they could only duplicate keys, he referred me to another. These people come to you. He got the car open in a couple of minutes. He figured out the physical key in about 10-15 minutes then cut a new one shortly thereafter. Programmed the remote entry device in maybe a minute. All for under $200. Again he came to my house and did this all from his van. Then I went to a local hardware store and got a spare made for under a $100 Parts, labor, and tax. The crazy thing is the dealership wants $100 to change my engine air filter and cabin air filter. Oh that's with coupon, hence a bargain price. I bought the filters from Walmart for under $30 and I did the engine filter in two minutes. The cabin air filter took my 16 y/o girl about 10. It's her first time. I'm teaching her about basic car maintenance. I've turned the 2012 CR-V over to her. BTW I do my own windshield fluid. The other thing with the dealership, they will add fees for shop supplies, the tech wiped his hands on a paper towel, and environmental fee. They threw the old filters in the trash.

[@tHebUm18]

With my Tesla, I can add/remove keys myself in the UI; in the normal settings, not even some special service screen. Not that you need a key when your cell phone is your key over bluetooth. My initial keys also got bent (key cards) before reaching me so they also sent me a free 2nd non-bent set... so I have 4 key cards and my cell phone as keys haha. Glancing online, not too well priced though for spares--$40 for 2 + a fancy branded card holder for them. Maybe could get cheaper 3rd party keys though--I assume any programmable card probably works. Since they're programmable yourself, if you had multiple Tesla's you could probably use one key for multiple vehicles too.

[@mrchase1]

The bad thing about Tesla is that they can charge whatever they want for new parts.

[@Jimster481]

Except you don't own a Tesla. It isn't YOUR Tesla. it is Tesla's Tesla car that you paid money to rent for a while until they decide its unfit for the road or you can't drive it anymore. Nothing about a Tesla is ever owned by the end user. Tesla controls the entire vehicle remotely while spying on you and everything around you 24/7.

[@justinfowler2857]

Hare chevy in Noblesville, IN ripped me off. I took my car for a coolant flush. It came out of the shop with 2 bad motor mounts and they wanted 1800 to repair them.

[@rayvarnson8976]

You talk to much, the banter between you and the other person was not needed but, overall good information.

[@shag139]

There’s a local place that looks like the Keymaster’s office in the matrix. They cut keys, program new keys/fobs/immobilizers, etc. Much cheaper than a stealership. I had replaced the immobilizer on my ‘09 odyssey and of course it needs to be programmed. Local mechanic I go to programmed it and put the steering column cosmetics bag together for $99.

[@TheOzthewiz]

The dealership charges for 2 labor, because he can! I hope Mike doesn't need any warranty work done at that dealership, he will be DENIED because he didn't MAINTAIN the vehicle properly by driving with LOW WASHER FLUID! Excellent video, by the way! Can you do MORE of these "undercover" videos? THANK YOU!

[@frankg.5150]

It should be illegal to charge book rates 150.00 an hour labor for a 30 minute job. Had a water pump changed put new fan belt installed and got charged 1 hour labor for reinstalling a belt that should have been part of the water pump replacement cost. Find a locksmith for keys and fobs. AAA will reimburse you 50.00 for a new key.

[@robertclubs9908]

Fun show to watch Merry Christmas my friend.

[@CQALive]

Merry Christmas to you too Robert!

[@dubworldvwadventures]

No modern key should be over $50. When I worked at a dealership in the 90’s , we sold key blanks for about $3 and cut them for free.

[@ajwright8710]

Ford dealer ripped me for chipped key and fob. $319.00. I wonder if this practice would fall under the RICO act?😮

[@grumpyoldman64]

This whole thing is a waste of time because you do not name the dealer what city they're in and who the manager was that you dealt with ! Everybody knows dealerships are shady but without naming them it's never going to change anything ! Stupid waste of time

[@jw4620]

Had my car towed for a starter replacement. The shop removed my traffic camera from the car.

[@tHebUm18]

19:44 So does that mean if you snapped a photo of some random person's key, you could unlock their doors even if you couldn't start it? Presumably anti-theft systems only kick in on most vehicles for starting--so you could still get in even if the battery for the keyfob was dead.

[@TerrySchwanke-z8d]

My experience has been that I replace the brakes, the next service they show the brakes are at the best. The next time after I now have put on 15,000 miles on those brakes, they would mark their inspection correctly. Another 15k miles later after I know I brake a lot and I have put on 30k miles since brake replacement, the service tech marks it as the best again like the brakes are brand new. Always always look at the inspection notes and call them out if there is a discrepancy since the other inspections. Pay attention.

[@TennesseeHomestead615]

Great video! Love the bantering between you and your boss.(wife)😂

[@kilvarough]

"Get Smart" , even had a shoe phone lol

[@bryandevries7210]

The OBD 2 device at GM service centers connects to a computer at the service bay. They use the computer to research faults and history, and look up and order parts.

[@wanted-33]

Isn't washer fluid, and blinker fluid interchangable? If so, maybe the blinker fluid was low also.

[@Happy_Eli]

Purchased 2 keys&fobs for 17 Malibu cut&program from a local mobile locksmith company for a lil over $400, so the fact that dealer is charging almost the same price for one key is beyond me. Also the mobile locksmith had my keys cut and programmed in about 1hr

[@chrispiasecki8389]

Surprised that they only charge by the full hour of labour. I've had invoices where they charge for say 1.4 hours of labour, which if nothing else makes you feel like it's being done at a reasonable pace and charged accurately .

[@joesepspindel3335]

why is it that every dealership I buy a vehicle from does not give me a spare key or an owners manual to the vehicle. In one case no only did I not get those two things, but the vehicle was missing the foam with cut outs for the factory tire inflation device and tow hook that I found out later on that my model comes with but mine was missing. I think it's because stealerships take those from all vehicles in order to get additional funds by selling them on line and making you need to come in and have an extra key made.

[@BentonL]

You think that's bad try to get a key for a 20 year old Passat. $750 out the door for one key. On my truck the skim module went bad. I wanted to replace it and get my existing keys to work $2500. I replaced the skim module. I ended up buying a tune for the truck and deleting the skim because that was cheaper and the key would work.

[@TerrySchwanke-z8d]

Keep in mind that dealerships add on the cost of parts because they are selling them to you. Generally you can find the same parts for far less and just bring them with you to the dealership and have them put it on.

[@SimpleGunner]

brandon getting snack attacked by mom in the middle of a video was the best.🤣

[@CQALive]

Haha yes it was!

[@douglasvoncannon3073]

Southern mama's need to feed their boys.

[@johnl.navarrette2053]

Clint, great job on ServPro First Responder Bowl recap! U Da Man!!!

[@Mach11976]

Maxwell smart and agent 99, he also had the shoe phone. Probably 1969-70 somewhere back in the day lol

[@fowvee]

My local Toyota dealership wanted just over $500 for a fob (no emergency blank) and a fob programming. This is just craziness. The fob was $318.29, tax included, and $195 for the programming.

[@neonnoir9692]

I keep a 360 always-on dash cam in my car with giant eye stickers. People act very differently when they're being watched and see giant eyes looking at them.

[@tony64t]

Considering the historical greed and dishonesty inherent with car dealerships. It’s mind boggling to think car companies and the government want to force consumers to only take their cars back to their designated repair shops, after having purchased the vehicle.

[@LA_Commander]

The last time i stopped at a Chevy dealership for a popping noise from the suspension, they tried the good ol scare tactic on me and quoted me $2,000 for new front and rear struts. I got the hell out of there, then fixed the problem myself. What was the problem? It was two front swaybar endlinks that cost $17 each.

[@MichaelWilliams-ok2jz]

One time i took my car to the dealership for an oil change. I had just changed the cabin filter at home. Guess what, they recommended i change it. I asked them to pull the one i had and they were looking crazy when i busted them. And that was at the Honda dealership.

[@petesfeeder]

Im completely on the side of reasonable billing. And dealers are generally the least flexible and most expensive. They make up for losses though warranty on cash customers. In my experience as a 30 year journeyman flat rate is the fairest system for actual repairs. I can do most jobs in half the time. Where some mechanics may take longer than book time. As an independent now I charge time and materials but most of my work is custom or well beyond what book time could estimate. Point being. If you want the mechanic to charge by the working hour you better find a really good mechanic and expect to pay a high rate per hour. I suggest finding a trustworthy mechanic and sticking with them. Even when they move shops, which they will. If you're in good with your mechanic they will help you to find the best shop for things they're not set up to do. Like getting keys programmed. Much love

[@justinfowler2857]

The dealer who sold my my last car paid for a mossing key fob. 1 key fob on a 2020 Hyundai Ioniq was approximately $795. WTF!?

[@tanner3992]

a small used car dealership near me cut and programed a key for my 13 f150 for less then the price they were going to sell me the key for at the ford dealership and provided me with a code to have another key cut if i ever lost both keys

[@rasserfrasser]

The 101 on why I do not want an electric vehicle.

[@sterlingmoore4798]

Yes technicians should be payed for their skill. No that doesn't give dealerships the right to price gouge.

[@tgland02494]

My key fob from Chevy for my 22 2500hd was 20 for programming and I paid 25-30 for FOB