FutureChina Global Forum 2024 | In Conversation: Ray Dalio 焦点对话：瑞 · 达利欧

[@tinku-t9d]

Marvellous Explanation.

[@alinademeter6999]

❤ What we need is Diversity and Circulation of Ideas, Youth and Technology! ❤❤❤❤ Free Trade! Evolution! I agree with Mr Dalio’s analysis. Great discussion! ❤ We need to be nimble and cooperative, using available resources!

[@chartsfocusone]

This was a great video to listen to!

[@YokeChoonTang]

Mr Dalio has spoken well about the importance of peace and stability of all nations across the world irrespective of their wealth status in order for them to grow economically well. 52:15

[@stoodsteal]

great insight

[@phongtrangvothanh8309]

great

[@dinkeydink9376]

Thanks for sharing ❤!

[@Lululemon2023]

Hope he makes lots money in China

[@WaiKoH]

If you’re highly intellectual like he is, you can make money anywhere.

[@Lululemon2023]

@@WaiKoH Sure, but you want to higher rerun on area where you spend your most precious resources, time.

[@krystianczekaj4639]

Very well to know 🎉

[@phongy45]

Who win for the next POTUS will not make much difference to the world...

[@Timy1992]

As long as Western presidents remain plutocrats, they will never serve the people, but only the oligarchs.

[@Rafael555888]

Wait, he invested in chinese bonds, knowing well that they may delevarage or print money at any moment?

[@randomdude7384]

If they print money, the price of bond will increase (as will the price of all the other assets).

[@collegeclasstoom]

if they delevarage by printing money, the real value of bonds will decline as the devalue of their currency and the fall of currency ratio. Unless the bounds have a special compensation interests on inflation.

[@wataruik2244]

He said he has a diversified portfolio which means any asset in the portfolio is to balance the whole portfolio.

[@randomdude7384]

@@wataruik2244 A market index fund will beat it 8 times out of 10 (the other two it'll rout it).

[@douglasvieira610]

@@collegeclasstoom the fact of both of you disagree, reflect with what will happen to the price of the bond. Decorrelation in short term.

[@GodofStarz]

Ray Dalio's thesis is a simplistic macro-economic debt & consumption centric model juxtaposed on historical events thereby showing Dutch, English and US periods of dominance. But the model doesn't factor in dynamic network externalities across other dimensions including global geo-political levers such as nuclear weapons, pandemics, ageing population, climate change, disruptive innovations, etc., It seems he considers Russia in Chinese camp in the new world order.

[@boruiliu7045]

Thanks for sharing!

[@China4x4]

the host's lack of knowledge makes him uncomfortable....

[@maroncurimu]

The Hari Seldon of our times.

[@jchien]

So Ray sees an unavoidable eventual military showdown btw US and China and as an American he still is committed to investments in China and still advises the Chinese government at the highest level 🤔️

[@MichaelandJello]

Maybe trade war

[@dbladeford]

Sounds like a traitor, but that may be extreme. Certainly an advocate of the Chinese model over the U.S. model. Fink did say that markets like totalitarianism. Maybe Ray agrees.

[@ClivesChronicles]

China is the future. BRICS is the future. Majority of US investors invest in China. Numerous Microsoft executives recently quit to move to…guess where, China! US is in a rapid decline, mainly due to their neocon directed foreign policy which started in the 90’s.

[@ClivesChronicles]

@@dbladefordwho’s totalitarian? 1 out of 14 Chinese are members of their government. That’s roughly 100 million members. Indeed referring to Dalio as a traitor is pathetic. He’s the messenger and a realist, you should know never shoot the messenger!

[@longgong5710]

@@ClivesChronicles or maybe he's just an opportunist doing exact the opposite to what most of the big funds are doing lol

[@MrDoyley35]

Not sure I understand Rays model as it pertains to China as a rising power. Could his timeframes be too short and is too American centric. American’s historical timescales are of course quite short since it is a relatively new nation. He says a civil war is a sign of the empire failing and declining or staring to rise. One could argue that the Chinese peoples revolution last century was a sign of that decline over a larger timescale. If we look at it in terms of thousands of years as opposed to centuries. China has been the largest and most technologically advanced civilisation in human history. Could the civil war and transition to communism be simply be an attempt to reform and maintain its historical global status over millennia. If that was the case then the democratic west is still on the rise albeit the baton being passed from one western nation to another. 1 thousand years ago China was most definitely the preeminent human power in the world. The west was still engaged in small regional conflicts which eventually progressed to the foundations of modern parliamentary democracy with the magna carta etc.

[@Avigkit]

He should talk to michael Hudson perhaps, and go back another 4500 years. Before Roman finance capital stole the public option

[@Bob-kl3es]

He left out thr jewdicial power of debtstruction in all these cycles.

[@congressmanrjb]

Trueth

[@lucianasalles7272]

☕🍵🎧

[@ndklskgisiiiyyy5449]

what does it mean by him as saying ' put two together, maybe one and three"? implying the probability of trump's loss and win as 1/4 and 3/4? someone can help interpret in the context of predicting the election result.

[@skydragon23101979]

What he means is that there is a one in 3 chance of chaos after the election results.

[@ndklskgisiiiyyy5449]

@@skydragon23101979 thx didnt get that point at all

[@collegeclasstoom]

the conflict between different parts of the society may destroy the normal

[@峰梁-v3w]

这个主持人很逗比

[@Freedomoverdose]

Not a good host

[@rtan1095]

The host keep interrupting Ray when he was emphasising key point… no good…

[@Mr.Man-]

🫱🏾‍🫲🏻

[@giuliocaprini-be2pj]

Just an american salesman

[@GCBvoucher]

We should buy over Trumps assets. It sure will rise more than 60 percent ROI.

[@typicalKAMBlover21]

If Trump gets elected, if not, it’s all going to be trash.

[@collegeclasstoom]

and, if Trump won the election, when should one to sell？