Craftsman S205 Chainsaw initial thoughts

Craftsman S205 chainsaw initial thoughts

[@801Cummins]

I recently tore my s205 apart and was blown away by how nice the cylinder was, all the ports were clean and smooth, no flashing or burs to be found like I expected from a china saw. The squish is massive though at .058 so a gasket delete is definitely worth it

[@markmacdonald6452]

I picked a 42cc craftsman same as the Paula’s same as Husqvarna 136 for $20 Canadian. I put a .325 spur sprocket in it and an old 15”Husky bar and chain, opened up the muffler a bit. Now it stays in the back of my truck as a just in case saw. I’ve got quit a few “pro” saws and your right, the little poulans are no match, but they can be made to run pretty decent for a backup saw or homeowner saw.

[@wadebarnes6720]

I bought a small steil chainsaw cleaning up with a new spark plug then I noticed it wasn't like my other the motor was in the middle of the saw it did not have no case and when did they start doing that

[@kenkauffman2529]

That Craftsman is the same as the Remington 4620. I switched out the top end for 52cc top end off of Aliexpress, muffler mod, reduced squish to .022, and ported the not out of it. I don't think the 34mm will fit in that crankcase...

[@jaredmessmer8879]

I have a 4620avx put a new carb kit and fuel lines in it it's just dumping fuel into the crank case so much it's almost impossible to pull over at times I've only had it started twice it idles for a few then revs to the moon I turned the saw over and a few shots worth of gas came back thru the carb from cylinder and sounded like gas was boiling inside after pulling it over white smoke was coming back thru carb from cylinder any ideas on what I can do to fix it or is she trash only paid $20 for it it has good compression for what it is tho

[@jerrodg938]

How do u take off the face cover to change out the chain. Talking about the craftsman. And my chain tightener stripped

[@snakesgunsandbikes]

Got one used and it works great. Always starts easy.

[@andrewmohs4734]

You're cranking out content almost as often as Brandon reads footnotes off the teleprompter! ,-) Keep up the awesome videos bud.

[@jcsawshop]

"repeat the line"

[@rpntn6092]

I have a P3314 Woodshark that came with a 42cc engine in it. I bought it as a refurb. I also own a PP4218 that I got on clearance from Lowe's a few years ago that also has a 42cc engine it it. I've had no problems with either one of them. I also own a Craftsman 358350980(Poulan Pro 5020 cousin), a Jonsered 2240 and an Echo 590. Anyway, I'm in no hurry to throw away my "junk" Poulans for Chinese made MTD Craftsmans. My Poulans may have Chinese parts in them, but then again so do Husqvarnas and Stihls as well. What I think would be a good video would be a comparison of cheap Poulan, Ryobi, and these Craftsman/MTD saws completely stock. Most people are not buying box store chainsaws and then immediately doing a muffler mod and or porting their saws, they just aren't.

[@ssergei]

Hey Boedy, how's your homelite super xl?

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

That craftsman is an MTD product that's made in China. Same saw as the current Troy Bilt and Remington saws. Aluminum cases. Not sure about the 46cc but the 42cc version has removable transfer covers along with a removable cylinder with aluminum crankcase inside a plastic housing.

[@andrewreiss2811]

Iss the 20 inch craftsman gas or oil gas mixed?

[@j.c.lawntreesnow6272]

I would like to see you make that green machine run better than what it is with a pipe or muff mod and light grind peace

[@thehonestwoodcutterbradywe8011]

I have that same saw.in.my shed with very low hours and a carb issue.i had a 42 cc one that was a.good little saw as well.

[@wadebarnes6720]

What is a clone of

[@user-jq8kh1hy7e]

Is it a closed port cylinder

[@hunterperry5259]

I've got this exact saw after running it hard for a hour it has to have the high and low jets adjusted. I'm goin about to just keep it as a back up and buy the husky 450

[@aaronpowell4885]

Got the 42cc s145 version last year for $99 new in box on clearance! Wasn't in lowes for a saw but couldn't say no to that price😅 immediately built it a pipe, checked squish and removed the base gasket. It's been great! For pruning and limbing, it's my go-to saw! Definitely a zenoah/redmax clone. Can sit for weeks and 9 out of 10 times will start first pull if you're quick on the choke!

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

Lol. Mine was on clearance as well. I only got it to experiment on. Cheap learning tool for sure. I ported it, muff modded and put a velocity stack with clamp on air filter on it. The piston was lightened, case matched to the lowers ect. Its a ripper for a Chicom throw away. Not sure how long it will hold up but its been a fun unit. Its ran close to 2 gallons of fuel so far.

[@elpolaco7654]

​@@MrJeepfreak1972 You could buy a decent 45 cc "clone" with 2 year warranty in one of DIY chains here in EU for less than 50 bucks (not on clearance). They are gone for now unfortunately.

[@aprilecotton2060]

Yeah i buy saws whenever i want, not broke so i dont go bragging about clearance shopping. No one cares you paid 99

[@aprilecotton2060]

I just bought mine in 2023 for 250 20” it just ran perfect first time taking down 22-24” trees lol. Thing is a boss

[@chandlermiller8099]

Is it still runnin good lookin to cut pines with it

[@tylerheard1279]

I have a newer (2018) China craftsman 42cc that I ported. It's heavy but suitable after porting. Had the tiniest exhaust and intake ports I've ever seen and horrific squish.That must be how they pass emissions.

[@billyb.9878]

I got a craftsman 50 cc that spins a 3/8 chain 20" in a hard case for $40. Cleaned up fresh fuel etc. Runs really good. Keep saying I'm going to sell it but I do believe I'm going to get me a dremel and have at it.

[@tylerheard1279]

Also if you look at the short blocks for those china craftsman, they are like $70

[@DaveyBlue32]

Zenoah / echo clones is why the cheap little China specials all kinda kick butt… they are just a cheap version of some real decent Japanese design. 80’s Japanese design kicked butt buddy… cars motorcycles electronic and stereo equipment.,, chainsaw’s.,,, and the list goes on… very useful stuff without a lot of silly bling or unnecessary features…. When I got my first $100 dollar 60cc 20” bar saw from eBay when it arrived I went through it… I don’t like that.058 chain so I ordered it a 20” Raismen bar and chain combo… 3/8 .50 72… like everything else… I sharpen the chain and ground my rakes off at.050 thou and went to pounding upon it!!! Three years as the grab it whenever you can and pound on it saw… 40:1… the freaking thing still runs fantastic!!! Because it’s from China it’s an open can already with two little tubes out… I didn’t do anything but tune it up a little… and cut cut cut! I’m talking about cutting up a couple take downs a week into 16 inch chunks and then everything and anything else that I could find to cut with it! It’s cut 70 cord? Or more maybe??! literally just a little $100 dollar 036…. I’d grab that saw way before the stock ms391… and it’s better than the ported 391 too because it’s a little smaller and lighter for about equal power…. Guy bought a container of them pretty cheap because he had about 30 left and he dropped from his $40 dollar price point to my $30 dollar cash price point quickly… I made a couple bucks off them… a little landscaping company or a tree service with relatively inexperienced guys working for them… that’s what I put in their hands… or a 5800… johncutter…. It’s theirs and they are responsible for it’s care and maintenance…. You can watch and evaluate how they will take care of equipment… and it’s an extremely cheap investment with a huge return! And they make their mistakes on a $100 dollar saw not a $700 dollar saw…. You can hang up the ms261’s $700? And the 362cm too really… rest your “pro” saw’s and put the hours on your “”junk” saw’s! LMFFAO!!! It absolutely amazes me how quickly people are to regurgitate the rhetoric.., and repeat things that they have heard on the internet and all the while they don’t have a clue about smack! Anyone who grabs one of these little metal 60cc 20” saw’s and actually cuts with it… then really works it…. Would never in a million years consider it “junk” they are an awesome deal on a really decent saw’s!!! A super deal considering that their equivalent in Stihl is the ms391… $600? Bucks for less saw??!! I’ll take 6 of my junk saw’s all day long before I’d ever buy a new 391… or anything else that wasn’t a pro saw! And there’s some real argument to the idea that I’ll save a big chunk of my money and I’ll run the $100 dollar saw and I’ll take that extra 261 $500? And I’ll toss that into some penny stock or the Edward Jones account and let it grow a little interest??! I’ve run my own business my entire life and I learned very early that it’s not what you make it’s what you spend!!! The lower your overhead the better!’n. I’ll run these little off brand saw’s no problem… the guy who is paying me to remove his tree wants the lowest price possible… I can actually change less if I’m not running around $3000 grand worth of saw’s to get his job done… I used a $100 dollar saw and it’s it’s 100 th job… my saw cost is $5 bucks towards filters or fuel lines and the fuel and oil… I’ve got $20 bucks spent… chipper hours or whatever… any company who doesn’t have a couple of these cheap saw’s in their fleet are really missing an opportunity!!! In my opinion! It’s a huge cost savings opportunity, period!

[@peterobillard4441]

My sentiment as well. Just cutting for firewood for maybe 40 years, we have had a mess of different brands, but never the really expensive ones. I always liked the feel of my old Homelites the most, used a SuperXL for a long time. It was finally about totally used up when I got searching. Found this S205 at Ace Hardware for about 129 with full kit and carry case. 4 years and maybe 30 cords later it still rocks! Replaced H78 chains with similar Oregon chains and still screaming. Love the way it handles also, so much like the feel of old Homelites. Awesome. Thinking of buying another one or two.

[@KristianYordanov]

Yes, it's clone, but not all Chinese clones are bad. In fact, this is a very good design of the Japanese company Komatsu Zenoah, today known as Husqvarna Zenoah. The original model is Komatsu Zenoah G4500 or G5200. The optimal maximal rpm recommended by the manufacturer are 12500-13000 with a fuel ratio of 50:1. Today, as part of Husqvarna, Zenoah produces versions of the same chainsaw with modified X-Torq engines, there the maximal rpm recommended by the manufacturer reach to ~14000.

[@dubbssawshop]

I was looking at those the other day at Lowe’s myself. You could get some decent power out of them for what they are. 👍

[@majorpixchannel7146]

I have ran the 46 cc and the 42cc for 4 years now!! They are VERY reliable saws! I have abused them on jobs that I wanted to save my good saws!

[@0808dsmith]

Got one! Put a full Chisel chain on it and have cut down 3 white oaks and bucked them into fire wood without a hick up. Given serious thought to putting the 58cc piston and jug on it.

[@majorpixchannel7146]

Would love to see you do more on this 46cc crafsman saw! I have the same saw and it's little brother the 42cc. I have used the snot out of them instead of.my good saws on jobs. Maybe 🤔 a 58cc build up? And film it all bolt by bolt lol for I can follow! Lol please 🙏 I'm just a novice so far... but learning! I totally agree that the 590 timber woof is best saw for the money 💰 its my go to and I have plenty of saws like you! G660,g372xp, echo590, 4510,450p, ext ext

[@novicelumberjack]

It's already gone. Customer saw. I thought he was giving it to me, turns out, he just wanted me to get it to run. All that was wrong with it? Missing the bolts for the starter. That was an easy $40!

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Is a 2900 46cc the same as the rest 46cc poulan class

[@bradford216]

Yes. It’s the same as the Poulan 2775 or the Poulan Pro 295, 4620

[@Mike-su8si]

That poulan just needs adjusted. The craftsmen is a bit weaker than mine i can hear it but like the poulan it would still get stuff cut up just at a slower speed

[@crazyfeller5704]

👍the Chinese carbs for the older and strato saws have linkage that will not fit well. You can make them fit, but Oe is better.

[@DaveyBlue32]

I love that freaking shirt!!!

[@WASTED__POTENTIAL]

Isn't 3/8 a beefier chain? Why would you be happier that the craftsman has a 325?

[@novicelumberjack]

Good question. I like 3/8 chain, what I don't like is 3/8LP. The Low Profile chain is the stuff I don't like, and it almost always come on crappy saws. It was designed for saws with minimal power, like top handles, but if that crap is on a regular saw, it is a direct indication of a terribly low powerd saw. At least, that's how I see it. 3/8= medium to big saws .325= small to medium saws 3/8LP= top handle to shit saws

[@joshuajohnson4396]

The craftsman looks like it has a little torque. Can't wait til you get it turning some revs.

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

I'm still leaning towards the Jon Cutter 👍 Big Guy!

[@jcsawshop]

I'll start by saying I enjoy and subscribe to your channel as well as converse with you on the ole FB groups. That being said, just like my buddies would call me out, I have to point out that one of the reasons you have an excessive dislike for Stihl is their model numbers don't coincide with the displacement of the saws. How are those Poulans?

[@chainsawcanuck]

Biggest they can go without machining the crankcase is 54.5 cc, with the 34mm crank and 45.2mm p/c

[@joshuajohnson4396]

I know they're a pain in the azz but would you do a video on a small little eagerbeaver 2.0. You might suprise a few people with a 16 inch bar.

[@tonymartin9784]

It's troybuilt mtd saw

[@S-tank_]

yes those are zenoah saws i have a zenoah clone that I bought 3 years ago put it thru hell cuz it had a 2 year warranty if it was gonna mess up I wanted it to do it while under warranty. I've cut probably ten cord with it never once given me a single issue. i bet my left toe it's 52cc not 46 like it says. should be only 2 sizes made now there was 52cc and 62cc at first but now they are only making 52 and 58 from what I understand. also. I. want. a Frampton!!!! I have a 285 or 280 whatever it is with your name on it I'm ready when you are brother!

[@rbhe357]

The Craftsman is made by Remington Power Tools, under MTD/Stanley Black & Decker. So is the Ryobi. Poulan has been owned by Husqvarna since the 80's.

[@ronpatterson6420]

It really is to bad poulan went south on quality because back in the day they made saws for everyone's budget and they were really good saws for the money.

[@woofy548]

A powerhouse Wild thing would be badass... Why wouldn't they make that???????

[@GeorgiaBoyJake]

Are you located in Atlanta?

[@novicelumberjack]

Yes

[@GeorgiaBoyJake]

@@novicelumberjack Hello from the Chatsworth area!

[@benjaminleslie3155]

I have a little husqvarna 235 that is basically the poulan 38cc and even with a 14" bar it is totally gutless. Anything larger than 4 to 5 inches just bogs it to nothing.

[@Andrew-yg1sr]

Great saw for the money

[@Mike-su8si]

mine is the pr5020 and they cost you $239 plus tax they're worth that and they cut good and last long I feel sorry for people who use stihl chainsaws because they're junk and they don't even come in a box they're not great saws i believe thats why stihls prices are cheaper than poulan

[@aaronpowell4885]

Haven't ran them side by side but those pr5020's feel just as strong as the husqvarna 455 ranchers for half the price! Great homeowner/bargain firewood saw for under $250👍 hmm🤔 I have both and new loops of exl for each, may just have to time them😃

[@dwaynemetts7688]

MTD makes these new saws

[@tomr2007]

Its a fools game trying to determine the "manufacturer" of a saw. Most consumer saws are simply assembled from parts from all over the world. You could theoretically do the same thing in your garage and put your own badge on it and sell them online. If you want a good saw get something from the mid 90's or before and restore it. Also a 20" bar on a 46cc saw is nuts. The marketing people always push bars that are far too long for the saw. A 46cc saw should have a 16" bar max. Heck, I only run a 20" bar on my 88cc Homelite.

[@mr.somebody1493]

Yup, craftsman is Chinese Zenoa clone variant

[@alexstromberg7696]

42cc and 20" bar. Wtf. Should have a 13"

[@EcSsAwS]

Made by MTD. My cousin has a remington branded one. Called the “outlaw” I used to own it as well Absolutely turd of a machine I gutted the muffler as well

[@S-tank_]

imported by MTD made by zenoah

[@elpolaco7654]

@@S-tank_ (Komatsu) Zenoah (outdoor power products operation) was bought by Husqvarna (former Electrolux) in 2007.

[@S-tank_]

@@elpolaco7654 yep. Husqvarna owns basically everything now lol. But it's the same as poulan where even tho husky owns them, almost everything is still made in a zenoah factory. Like the 295 is technically owned by Husqvarna but all the parts are still made in a poulan factory except for a few parts that are interchangeable with husky models. It's not like they are made in a husky factory and then just have the poulan label slapped on them. They still operate independently

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

@@S-tank_ Not made by Zenoah. A copy of a Zenoah design made in China.

[@S-tank_]

@@MrJeepfreak1972 I talked to a guy that works with zenoah he owns DTO It's a company that sells only those 52cc zenoah clones I think or they might have some others too idk but the way he described it to me it's like a little scheme they got going he told me that some of them get bought they buy the molds from zenoah and but that his dto saw was made in the zenoah factory that they made zenoah during the day and dto at night. The way he talked it was like sort of like it was something shady they were doing or something cuz he kept trying to reassure me it was legal and blah blah. But he's the one that told me they aren't making 62cc anymore only 52 and 58. Idk how true any of that is but that's what he told me lol. He's a nice guy he hooked me up on a pair of tickets to a Marlboro thing towards Nashville. We got to ride around the speedway in race cars and drive a real NASCAR simulator that they use to test tires and drivers reactions and all kinds of stuff it was really cool

[@Mike-su8si]

And i gladly would pay for your trash or take it. 2 years ago some one gave me a all metal craftsmen chainsaw and to me it was trash it was to far gone for me to fix up it ran but needed worked over good because it locked up so I gave to someone else i didn't wanna mess with it

[@Agustin-jo8mv]

Man that WEMARS 58cc sounds like a 10x better deal! haha. That's why mine will be here in a few days with a 36" bar and chain! haha

[@rejeanparent4095]

Allo

[@williambray4134]

Had a 1950 (I believe that's the model number) Wood Shark when I was 17 years old, now known as the P3314. Bought it for $75 at Waldo's World, and when offered $75 for it, I took that money and ran away as fast as I could. Antique magnesium case Poulans are AWESOME, but the more modern plastic ones are enormous piles of 💩.

[@samuelstump7658]

Wouldn't buy another one.had mine for 34 days used twice for 3 hrs and the plastic spleen in the pull rope broke.looked like there had been none.wore flat.lowes refused to take it back

[@davidhaught4307]

I gave my Craftsman away. Cause it was garbage but I still got my poulan pro

[@kevinbeck6419]

Poulan pro with a Husqvarna that's why

[@rejeanparent4095]

ST ZACHARIE QUEBEC CANADA

[@garengtutorial8923]

Kenapa di buang bos 👍😀 padahal kasih aja sama saya 😀😀😀

[@jacksonalonzo4903]

Where are your chaps, boots, gloves, eye protection, hard hat. You need PPE.

[@bobbytickle3052]

Yeah good luck with it it's a piece of s***after a hard run it won't prime backup to start good luck I'll never buy another one Craftsman need to make this up to me

[@dubbssawshop]

I have one of the 42cc Strato Wild Things and it really sucks, the 2175/2375 Wild Thing will embarrass the crap out of the strato saws so many levels it’s pathetic. 😂

[@DaveyBlue32]

Grab your burr and hit that exhaust port roof! Shave off a couple thousand! Put your timing wheel on it and see what you can do, buddy!!!

[@charlesjenks2710]

Poulan chainsaws current models are junk I have four I've got with other chainsaws and if you want them I'll give them to you

[@Mike-su8si]

They work for me i traded my junk stihl for a old broken poulan that only needed adjusted i cleaned it and reset it and it cuts good as a current new one

[@Mike-su8si]

You must like um or you wouldn't have 4 of um all mine work except for 1 i used parts off it

[@Mike-su8si]

Stihls models are ive used them and used my friends and the stihls are just dodo

[@jackfrosty79ify]

Hot rod it

[@stevenkinnison8044]

I swear since Husqvarna started making the Poulan saws they have been pretty much trash.

[@ragercrepair9301]

I feel bad for the poulan name these days. They used to be top dog or damn close to it, and now they have been transformed into garbage. Really sad that's our society these days unfortunately.

[@jonnysnipes3123]

All of them are trash. 20 years ago I would have bought either of those brands but today absolutely not. They are cheaply made, look cheaply made and feel cheaply made. I only run echo stihl or husqvarna

[@jackfrosty79ify]

No the clutch is a garbage

[@jackfrosty79ify]

Burnt 3 of them

[@jackfrosty79ify]

Cant keep clutch in mine .

[@finsandflames]

The mark of a good saw is how it performs a year after it’s bought, NOT out of the box. These saws are garbage. Don’t listen to this video and don’t waste your money on one.