Craig Jones vs Mason Fowler - 2019 ADCC

[@dstyer6128]

Danaher brooding across the mat like Emperor Palpatine, lol.

[@chanso4880]

“Goooooooooooood”

[@flowzone.]

Ha hah!!

[@peterbergman5917]

Lol

[@LIONTAMER3D]

Wrong -.- the "emperor" stalks the mat like a faint, barely-recognizable version of John, fool -.-

[@henryskipper5507]

Everytime, so good

[@claytonbigbsy3880]

I hope Craig can win an ADCC Gold. Really cement his legacy

[@DrewDarce]

Same. I think he will in 2021.

[@t-bone7988]

just needs to work on his wrestling and he'll get there. I'd like to see him win No gi worlds too.

[@juliandickerson6635]

@@DrewDarce Garry Tonon also will win in ADCC 2021.

[@Loneshdo]

Hes still very young. Hell get it eventually

[@jangobango2847]

@@DrewDarce 2022*

[@donnyh3497]

Craig is one of my all time favorites. Skill and class in equal measure.

[@mcloviinz]

This one was so good live. I think this was Craig's first match that day and him jumping for the guillotine was sick

[@shanemanske5262]

last match of first day no? semi-finals and finals on Sunday

[@Brascobadboy]

2nd match. Fowler shouldn’t be shooting in like deep

[@Pandemos]

@@Brascobadboy that wasn't it, he did the technique wrong. A single is an inside drive then run the pipe (keep their leg trapped between yours so you control posture/distance and tuck the chin to defend chokes). He did a single and finished like it was a double with his head on the outside to drive and exposed the neck.

[@davidcarrillo9580]

I played rugby with Mason at Bullard high in Fresno CA back in 2010. His first year he was easily among the best and had the most savage attitude towards the game and training. Love you mason keep doin your thing

[@drake1896]

I didn't know Americans play rugby

[@chychywoohoo]

@@drake1896 there's only hundreds of millions of Americans

[@AlexElseyMMA]

Here after watching Craig bend Vinny's leg into oblivion

[@Andrian.Nilsen]

Yeah, amen!

[@justinscheidler5938]

Literally heard vinny saw, "it's already fucked, keep going " on Uncle Chael's channel there's video of them talking about it after the match.

[@redditate4587]

Peyton Manning and Craig Jones. Both masters of the spiral

[@TheLZempir3]

Minutes 8-12 are so insanely good. That was some awesome grappling.

[@Lijah2good4u]

I wanna see Jones fight Gordon again. The Match at ebi was pretty badass👍🏽

[@oscararielrestomunoz3910]

How can the commentator says that a general critic for Craig Jones is his games is one dimensional and that now is more diverse? In 2017 in EBI he pull a sick armbar against OConaill, in adcc 2017 he pulled a flying triangle against santana, and took Lo’s back and got a RNC with a beautiful rolling backtake. It has surely expanded and change, but it was never 1D.

[@DrewDarce]

Exactly. Glad you noticed.

[@t-bone7988]

yes, he was a leg locker, but he started in he gi too! Can win in several ways just not by wrestle fucking just yet ;)

[@chivimbe]

He’s much better overall now than in 2017. Used to just play z-guard and leg entanglements. Now his game is great all around after training with danaher

[@prandz420]

He used to be known as a triangle guy too.

[@tomatosoup67]

What a BATTLE. That was so good by Fowler. Amazing fight

[@samuelgardner5939]

Super display of high level karate there.

[@anklelocker]

Such a high level that strikes aren't even thrown

[@Presence_o_Mind]

That was the highest level Ameridote I've ever seen!

[@MysticMac000]

00:07 Danaher got such perect form when sitting down in the chair

[@willmurphy4847]

He looks like a sim character 🤣

[@adamabbas1487]

A very complete looking Craig Jones. I am amazed that Mason did this well to escape all those submissions. Mason had some nice sweeps from half guard and was good at avoiding leg lock positions.

[@MS-jk6gj]

One of Craig’s best performances and he has many.

[@quinlansee1]

Shawn Williams is the best commentator ever I learn so much

[@heath6809]

Impressive performance by Mason Fowler though.

[@dannyholley]

Makes you wonder what would have happened if the ref had given Fowler points for any of those takedowns. Maybe he wouldn't have forced a shot in the closing 30 seconds.

[@machinegunpreacher2469]

To come in wrestling-heavy and still escape all those attacks down to 30 seconds was impressive indeed. Most wrestling focused guys get choked way quicker.

[@TumblrTheCreator]

Easily one of the best matches at adcc

[@jcli1829]

Gotta give it up to Fowler for hanging in there. Had a few real good escapes.

[@ldma_27]

I’m 9 and when I was 7 Mason was my BJJ teacher

[@Wiley97]

He's a beast!

[@markstone6263]

ref literally almost stops the fight to move them to the center when craig has the guillotine locked in lol

[@paarthpatel7619]

I spent my blue belt days with mason at dethrone, first time I rolled with him he collar dragged me fucking thought I had wings damn near lost my shoulder that day

[@matthewcain2880]

Haha love the story

[@BluegrassAndLimestone]

11:54 Gordon in the background pointing at his homie 😭 We need the squad back together

[@unchien2069]

Gordon’s the reason they broke up

[@BluegrassAndLimestone]

@@unchien2069 Seems like it but we don’t really know the details. Doesn’t seem to be tremendous animosity between them two

[@cheyennemeredith1174]

(4:49-4:52) Love that Mason Fowler belly out defense to a quadpod and circle to avoid the dummy sweep. He covered two meters in two steps and came up in his stance (before walking back over to his opponent).

[@twoOfThemThangs]

Yeah too bad he got choked tf out like a lil worm

[@cheyennemeredith1174]

@@twoOfThemThangs just cause your mom burnt the roast doesn't mean she pissed in the sweet tea

[@claymac7895]

Fowler has got real potential. He definitely belonged in there with Jones, not something many people in the world can say.

[@Jojodabaker12]

Mason has submitted Craig before in different rule set of course he looked like he belongs

[@matthewcain2880]

Great match between them both👏🏽

[@m.t.mclaughlin4117]

Sort of wish they would be required to use rash guards. Slicker they get, harder to submit. Excellent adcc match.

[@WhtMike2006]

I like that ADCC is the wild west for gear requirements and they don't force anything. That being said I think it's possible the darce at 5:30 could have finished if they had been wearing rash guards with the increased friction. But it's also possible Craig wouldn't have been able to slide it in the first place. Rafa Mendes used to always say he liked going shirtless at ADCC so that he could slide his arm chokes into place more easily.

[@kallepikku4991]

It's submission wrestling tournament. Real men wrestler shirtless. Hope they don't go Olympic on us, with all those nitty picky requirements.

[@m.t.mclaughlin4117]

I like both points. I am just thinking the evolution of mersa, sepsis. Infectious skin disease has developed over time. But both of you present valid statements.

[@tylerjay532]

my first month as a white belt i got to spar with mason. was a great experience, dudes a savage!

[@nakedmongoose6837]

Graig: [goes for a marcelotine] Commentator: WOW LOOK AT THAT DIESEL SQUEEZEL!!!

[@pptine]

Nope, went for the punch

[@kuzushimatt6801]

i see craig jon... i click

[@seanlim864]

We are simple men then

[@gabrielnunes7407]

Craig is a great athlete overall

[@adrianarroyo937]

Why there weren't points on 9:27?

[@michaelmay9236]

no hooks possibly

[@adrianarroyo937]

@@michaelmay9236 I don't get it ^^' I was refering to the sweep/takedown. You too?

[@michaelmay9236]

@@adrianarroyo937 oh i was looking at right when you stamped it not before. But the commentators touched on it possibly being points and I think it was definitely arguable. From personal experience, in any match especially close ones, the ref will usually wait for solidification of control before awarding points. This prevents any high level matches being lost on momentary lapses. So although not necessarily fully by the rule book, ensures a more fluid match. Again just my perspective.

[@adrianarroyo937]

@@michaelmay9236 I chose that time stamp because before I think anybody could argue it was still scramble, and therefore no points were awarded. But since that moment, Craig ends up with his back on the floor for 10 seconds! I was thinking it may have to do with some loop on the rules, maybe? I read the rules a while back and can't remember anything that explain this. But anyway, thanks for the insight! 🙂🙏🏻

[@kallejokela3290]

3 second turtle zeroes all point attemps. And they count all positions where either of shoulders are of the mat as a turtle. In ADCC if someone passes your guard and then you turtle and give up side control its zero points.

[@andersp9789]

Anyone know of a video of the modified arm in guillotine they talk about?

[@liukaosborne]

12:30 that quiet fist bump from Danaher tho 🤜🤫

[@ITZollx]

Crazy uploads recently!

[@juntjoonunya9216]

Nice of him to give the little mid-match rub down lol

[@achrafsaberbjj2690]

I'm just waiting for match between Nicky and kaynan Thank you so much ❤️

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Any time there is a position reversal points should be awarded. If a grappler goes from their back to top position they should get the sweep/reversal points. If they are on bottom and end up on top while in a submission then they should only be awarded the points once they clear the submission attempt. The commentators don’t even know if the ref will award points during the match. If they are confused how will the general public follow along?

[@WhtMike2006]

Unfortunately ADCC started as a rich man's play thing. There was never any desire to have it be something for the general public or even the grappling community to be able to follow. No days the guy running the events is trying to make the rules a little easier to follow and more clear, but he's said that it's very difficult to get changes through. A few competitors that have done the event many times have a deep understanding of the rules, like Andre Galvao, Cobrinha, and some others. in IBJJF the competitors often know the rules better than the refs, but in ADCC it's the other way around. it's also tricky because the ref on the mat makes no decisions re: scoring. All of that is handled by the guys at the mat-side tables.

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Andre true. The Sheik created the event for his own personal entertainment. It was never designed to be seen by the public. The real money to be made by the competitors was the opportunity to train him privately if you impressed him. People always get in a hissy fit for me saying it but BJJ/grappling is now falling into to the same pit of despair that we said judo was in. And that is 100% okay. It is fine for it to become a sport as long as we view or correctly as a sport and not a self-defense system.

[@WhtMike2006]

Bad Wolf MMA good points. I’m with you. I am fine with separating the sport from the self defense applications. I do try to keep real combat in mind though when rolling. I like Chris Haueter’s take on it. “Think the street. Train the sport. Practice the art.” Something like that. Lastly I’d say I do think adcc is probably the best ruleset with some real fighting practicality (along with CJJ) due to the increased focused on wrestling, as well as it being such an open ruleset for allowing slams and all submissions (besides the full Nelson weirdly enough).

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Andre you have a very good outlook. I stress the same thing with my students. The sport USED to be a way to get some street application into our training. Not so much anymore. But, that’s cool. Things change. We just have to be honest about the direction things have gone. A lot of sport focused practitioners are a little delusional. ADCC format tries to be a decent meeting ground to allow a variety of grappling arts to cross compete.

[@modgrip805]

12:28 Caio Terra in the corner chair!

[@Channel1a814]

Could do with a slo mo replay to see what he did exactly!

[@cavbaron3634]

Just watched the rematch.. Craig didn't tap

[@abvgeikacare7243]

Craig lost to Mason at SUG

[@nicholasprinciotta6833]

when they pause at about 7 minutes, fowler doesn't have the figure 4 locked up. when they recenter, he starts with it locked

[@arthurpsmm]

that inversion at 3:02 is considered a sweep?

[@rhuaristephencowan3710]

I miss training 😞

[@captainomoplata643]

Go train

[@guam58]

I love how Craig used the guillotine to counter the take downs. Then bam uses it to submit Mason.

[@xStimp]

It’s amazing how after all that technicality it comes down to a take down and a guillotine like a couple of drunk friends 😂

[@johannesandersson9477]

I don’t understand adcc scoring.. Also, the fact that competitors frequently end up right on the mats of another match or smashing into judges tables and whatnot is ridiculous. This is supposed to be the pinnacle event of the sport. Get them some proper space

[@WhtMike2006]

There's no points for the first half of the match. That might be part of the confusion. Also you do not get points scored on you if you're on top and end up on bottom (either on purpose or getting swept) if you have a submission hold locked. The rules are very weird though. Sweeps and takedowns that land you past the guard get 4 points instead of 2. Those are the only things that give you 4 points. The back position for example gets 3 points instead of 4.

[@riandunneleavy4161]

@@WhtMike2006 i think it's becoz it's sposed to be wrestlers nd jiu jitsu athletes

[@WhtMike2006]

rian dunneleavy that too. It was started in 1998 by the Sheikh and Renzo Gracie as a mixed styles submission grappling tournament. They wanted rules that would help give all styles a shot. That’s why there’s funky rules like 4 points for a throw or takedown that lands you past the guard. They did that to help wrestlers and Judoka

[@bigb00tyslayer20]

Well there were not points in second period either. That is what confused this guy.

[@WhtMike2006]

BigB00tySlayer totally understandable. Adcc is definitely confusing. Even to me and I’ve been watching them for 15 years. There’s also not much transparency. That doesn’t help. And it’s an infrequent event so there’s not a lot of practice events or hobbyist events to learn the rules better. A lot of the top guys and girls only get one shot.

[@chandlerkirkland475]

Beautiful match!

[@l400dolla]

They didn’t give Fowler no points

[@golddee2040]

They didn't give Craig sweep points. He totally went from top to bottom. It was a bit of a tumble but Craig came out on top. Around the 3:59 mark on the ADCC clock timer. The sequence starts around there. He rolls him, gets rolled then rolls him again and comes up on top. No points. Totally a sweep unless he somehow did not use his legs or something. I saw a sweep all day.

[@reneiscool22]

Even Craig came out and said they should of gave Mason points

[@Yama_arashi101]

@@golddee2040 adcc rules first 5 minutes there are no points. Last 5 minutes points come into play.

[@slimpickin7999]

What about the ref resetting everytime Craig was in a good position

[@omoplata10]

Mason Fowler is a brown belt. Yet his leg lock defence is even better than most black belts

[@B-RaDD]

Would've loved to see a replay from at least one other angle but, it's all good though what a crazy match

[@aeneas116116]

Will Craig and ryan gordan face each other

[@shawnryan2197]

Who are the commentators?

[@MommyHobbies]

Love watching C.J

[@LoganNashFilms]

This was a really good match. Mason almost scored but Craig stayed on the neck and got up, but there was a takedown I believe mason definitely should’ve got credit for, which would’ve made him less desperate to shoot late. Also the ending was weird with them going close to OB and the ref touching masons back. Not the greatest reffing imo. But great match and awesome performance from both.

[@WhtMike2006]

I'll give the ref a pass because at ADCC the ref doesn't score any points. The scorer's table put their heads together and score points during the match. And anything that happened before 6:12 cannot be scored due to the no-points period, and any takedown points from Mason after that point have to pin Craig on his back for 3 seconds. Also, sweep and reversal points do not count if the person has a submission hold. It's incredibly difficult to score takedowns at ADCC and the infamous Pena vs Rodolfo match has about a dozen takedowns that don't score but would score in any other ruleset.

[@tokinabo]

one of the commentators talks too much, jumps in to fill any gap right away. a few seconds of silence now and then would improve analysis quality instead.

[@AA-nz4jt]

Veterans tournament?

[@rif5556]

I saw this was in the Quarter Finals and instantly knew Craig would win

[@SimonBriz]

What a hell of a match, I love how @11:32 Craig gives up the take down to secure the guillotine

[@TheTyler701]

why are guys doing head outside singles?! I don’t get it.

[@javiernegron2633]

TheTyler701 yeah seems like a really low level mistake for such high level guys to be making

[@philippheine4261]

Having only superficial knowledge of wrestling I was wondering this myself before. After watching a couple matches from recent ADCC´s in particular, many grapplers go for the outside head position in order to switch to the bodylock and hunting the back. I rarely see standard singles being finished, often times it´s really just to set up the (rear) bodylock and going into takedowns from there. I don´t think it´s an actual ´mistake´, especially when it´s such high level grapplers, often with a dedicated wrestling background aswell. If someone knows more about that, I would love to hear someone explain it properly:)

[@Chill_il]

Looked to me like he shot with his head on the inside and switched as he was trying to ‘run the pipe’ but failed and switched into a double leg attempt

[@thomasbeach498]

Ilya Il explain for y’all. Don’t worry I’m black belt who’s beaten Felipe Pena and competed at the highest levels. No I’m not special, just trying to show I come from a place with some knowledge. I respect all others opinions and am open minded to change of my own opinion. So I understand it a little bit. ILya is right as the wresting is running the pipe and helps him apply more chest pressure and change the able but it exposes your neck. He’s firstly a wrestler so when he was tired he went to his natural tech from wrestling without modifying. Hard to keep your tech composure when your exhausted. Mason did great. Also if he did get points people think he deserved you can say well Craig got the submission because mason probably wouldn’t be shooting if he was up points. Everything makes a difference. Happy to see so many people living and loving the sport.

[@pepino6519]

Damian Maia does an outside single and has a lot of success with it.

[@southernstyle228]

WOOOOOWWWWWW..... You can't write this up in a movie script.

[@koalaofdeath2045]

I understand why Craig was concerned about oil or whatever. That Darce looked pretty tight

[@TheDavddd]

stop talking so much about craig.. fowler is doing a good job too

[@wallisphoto]

Craig Jones a class act and gentleman

[@motolele4299]

no hate but how does a wrestler have his head on the side in a single leg

[@HashBrown99Gaming]

These BJJ guys need to work on their wrestling. I remember Gordon Ryan tapped Keenan with a guillotine off a single leg and now this. It's such a necessary adjustment to keep the head safe when doing a take down. There's a reason why Khabib has never gotten trapped in a guillotine despite performing so many takedowns.

[@skubz81]

Great match!

[@bobbysweeney5377]

Craig is a phenom, but man, Fowler is pretty incredible, and he's coming back smarter

[@mordorprc1]

How much is it to get FloGrappling in uk?

[@JordanVonStrangle_]

It's $150 in America to give you an idea

[@mordorprc1]

Jordan Butler thanks. Guessing this is 150 per year, right?

[@JordanVonStrangle_]

Correct

[@mordorprc1]

@@JordanVonStrangle_ Thanks mate. That is not bad tbh. With all the comments in every video saying how expensive it is, I thought it would be a lot more.

[@kingsleybembridge6444]

Please put up one of kayne matches

[@danrod3790]

I hate that restart. You gotta let the scramble play out.

[@aplus1080]

That darce escape at 5:37 is insultingly easy. Is that a normal move?!

[@LOLLYPOPPE]

Only if you cheat by using oily hair products like he did

[@simonlamothe123]

I got a pink eye just by watching this clip

[@ScheffCity]

This is not a 1-1 rivalry in my eyes, Craig hasn't been beaten but... LETS RUN IT BACK A 3rd TIME

[@vutran3758]

That passing was almost Gordon Ryanesque.

[@PutonyourSundayBests]

Is that a Welsh-American accent from the commentator? Strange combo

[@intimatespearfisher]

Now add punching, knees, elbows and kicks and this would be good to watch

[@sonicCherryBell]

hey, look. if your shorts are so long that you have to pull them up 30 times while you are in the middle of a world class match, you may want to get some shorter shorts, go full Dan Severn or something, there is a reason grapplers wear those.

[@ThePaulkelly123]

It’s the Bisping commentating?

[@samg9694]

Different brit

[@cypresspuz]

I cant believe Mason beat CJ twice in a row.

[@AB-ym3cr]

They robbed mason on points tho

[@josesoto3594]

the didn't and he got subbed anyways lol why argue about that

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Jose Soto awarded points change the complexion of the match

[@AB-ym3cr]

@@josesoto3594 exactly what he said

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Casual MMA Fan he doesn’t he have to take the shot that lead up to guillotine if points were awarded. Craig scored the guillotine off of Fowler’s aggression. He didn’t score it off of his own set-up

[@BadWolfMMANashville]

Casual MMA Fan Craig Jones is very popular. Ppl go all out of their way to build cases for him. If you cannot keep your opponent in the position you want them you do not deserve the position. If Craig could not keep him from scrambling away then the guard was not a controlling position. If Craig was taken down and scrambled to his feet nobody and I mean nobody would be saying Craig was scrambling around around avoiding the ground. They would be cheering him for getting off his back. It’s not your opponent’s job to do what you want them to do or how you want them to do it. The problem with guard first grapplers is they need their opponent to press the pass. If their opponent doesn’t press the pass then the guard lovers say “grappler X just stalled...”

[@pridetv]

I think the ref forgot about points.

[@roarkeburnett8208]

man all the crutches and wheelchairs in the background not a great advertisement for the sport!

[@leew3365]

It proves the effectiveness of leglocks?

[@jedibjj5488]

want to see rematch think mason was brown belt at that time too.

[@churrosconamor6696]

In these ring outs to reset in the center is waste. Karate combat has a great “ring” thats pit with 45 degree slanted walls. Which allows the action to continue. Would be nice to see jujuitsu tournies like these invest in pit.

[@qanonbrasil5255]

Jump to 11:30 🕦

[@Lockdown335]

I dont think Mason beats Craig without EBI style OT i feel Mason specializes in OT wins like we have seen in SUG. Still top level regardless

[@GaryTruesdale]

What a match! Nice job by the referee letting that finish on the skirt.

[@mistermendola]

Don't think I've seen Craig gulping for air before

[@TheLZempir3]

Mason really fed himself to Craig at the end. He must have shot for a takedown like 6+ times while Craig just retreated.

[@marcus_s]

Can someone buy Danaher a regular t shirt?

[@Justin-wk8fv]

Who's here in 2024?

[@delliciousjitsu8918]

That was amazing

[@sayless957]

Craig is a monster

[@josephreece7387]

That Craig fella has a body like Brad Pitt in fight club

[@kevincox9279]

Good stuff!

[@dolfdervish8495]

So is being almost completely naked before rubbing bodies an ADCC prerequisite?

[@richchar6478]

No, but highly encouraged

[@dolfdervish8495]

@Rich Char "And that's how you were born, son." -Staphylococcus Aureus (AKA: "Staph Daddy")

[@robertsfamily4364]

damn is that gordon ryan clapping for craig? unbelievable

[@grapefruitsimmons]

Release more good matches. Stop hoarding the videos.

[@hectormunoz6052]

Crawling around on your ass has to be the most undignified tactic in the world of grappling , why anybody teaches that as a legitimate technique ill never understand

[@slimpickin7999]

Cuz you're not good at grappling. Everyone says "in a real fight you wouldn't do that". Well i have and ill do it again. Once i sit down.. Ur toast

[@nicholassmith8212]

Danaher is master splinter