This Negotiation Made Me Nervous

[@jimmy2thymes916]

If I were that guy, I would just sell them on eBay myself.

[@s.l.sixgaming2154]

He probably needed the cash quick.

[@thepressurepack3777]

PayPal takes forever lol

[@speedfreak8200]

Personally I would be Timothy "Leary" of their authenticity... hope does good

[@joshl5658]

He should just sell the ones that actually had sold listings... make some money and keep the rest thats unknown in value 🤷‍♂️ that way Pete doesn't take on the risk

[@scambaitnaansense512]

Good deal for Pete that guy did not wanna do 3500

[@DanielHughes-rf2yf]

I never thought I would spend 20 mins of my life learning about KISS belt buckles.

[@macslayah]

Best day ever

Some of those from the mid 70s some KISS fans will kill their grandma over

[@michael-4k4000]

It's a brave new world....

[@princesssolace4337]

Me too and I don't even like their music or the band😅

[@shadowwoman7605]

🤣💀

[@dmoney2015]

It's amazing how much better this is than Pawn stars. More proof that television is dead and nobody needs highly over produced "reality" tv shows.

[@douglaswilliams6834]

Much as I like Pawn Stars, I agree. This is better.

[@jasonlinton9902]

Yep theres nothing fake about this show like pawn stars just real people buying a selling things its very simple and thats why i love it

[@helgedell]

True. Pawn Stars is just annoying. Set up, scripted, invited "sellers" and not at least dumb and written "funny" small conflicts.

[@MrLemmy2000]

They still need a Chumley

[@teetoys76]

Facts

[@TaylorTries]

You should make a video where you talk about all your previous risky/big buys and let us know the updates (if any) 😊 Maybe you mention them in other videos here and there, but a dedicated video would be great and easy to find! We’re so invested in the negotiations 😂

[@yuotueb]

From his ebay feedback, I see he has sold 10 belt buckles, a coin set and the drum sticks for about $4700. He is asking for $660 for a remaining coin set. I presume additional belt buckles might have been sold without receiving feedback and thus don't show up there?

[@AbeIsLincoln]

I thought the same. He should do an end of the year highlight video of all the most interesting buys/sells. Cut out most of the negotiations. Focus on the product and price/profit. Edit the cost/profit the same way they reveal the value on Antique Roadshow. He could also make videos of him telling stories of interesting customers/flips that weren't captured on video, similar to the way The Car Wizard does it.

[@Anthony113010]

@@yuotueb I appreciate the info .. Any update?

[@greenman360]

You know it's tense when even Honey is watching the whole thing, lol.

[@tyreesneed]

lol

[@DanielHughes-rf2yf]

Honey runs the show.

[@ilj1259]

At least he didn't ask for gas money . 😅

[@michael-4k4000]

Did someone say BrassMonkey that Funky Monkey 🐒?

[@gijsvanderwaal1166]

One dollar more

[@ircjesselee]

I'll give you $401 each.

[@weee1049]

This guy has the story of where he bought them and knows the product well, he should eBay them himself and Peter should have passed in my opinion.

[@pekemo]

Exactly. Why would the expert collector give up $7K in purported value by not selling them himself?

[@terriannrose56]

@@pekemoexactly!?

[@douglaswilliams6834]

@@pekemo Probably because he wanted the cash immediately. Who knows why? Car repair, heat pump bit the dust, etc. Or maybe he found a very expensive KISS item that he wanted.

No. Peter was smart. He read that guy quickly. He needed cash fast. Peter knows he will get triple of what he gave on Ebay if he is patient.

[@OurSocietyMustChange]

​@@pekemoNot everyone has the money to wait months for the correct payout. Especially in this garbage economy.I disagree with your premise

[@biffboffo]

I'm sure the seller knew the market, but these hardcore collectors are always going to be optimistic about prices.

[@grayparatrooper]

too niche ide pass

[@jimchesnutt7879]

Not to mention Kiss memorabilia is a (relatively) limited market compared to other collectible categories.

KISS merch is a difficult market. It`s really all about being lucky, finding a fan with enough money. This guy needed quick cash and Peter knew it.

[@andreashaggstrom]

Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

[@ReptileAssylum]

Bang on boyo

[@Chet_Brinkley]

Gene Simmons conned all those fans ...! He's now living off their stupidity !

[@wesleyhempoli5548]

this was super interesting to watch a REAL UNSCRIPTED negotiation of a niche market 🍿

[@matimus100]

Kissey Kissey fish Kissey

[@desendean6488]

Exactly the las Vegas and the detroit shows are scripted with actors pretending to be a customer

[@Reynaldo-zr3zc]

That's what's Intruguing.about this guy..this is all unscripted..real pawn star

[@baberoot1998]

​@@StudioModWhat? Are you incapable of understanding simple English grammar? That is what the comment stated...that it was "unscripted". Wow.

[@StudioMod]

@@baberoot1998 I must have been half asleep when I commented that. I clearly misread it.

[@antinhumppaa]

I bet the guy knows all the "serious" collectors and has tried to sell these to them already... but no one is buying.

[@stokjockey2699]

Bingo

[@MaxRager80]

Yep.

[@holdonC]

That explains it. If they are worth that much he would sell them himself and know the people that want to buy.

I think you`re wrong on that one. To me it seemed like he needed quick cash and knew he was getting "screwed" by Peter but had no choice. Peter will probably triple the sum

[@nyteowl8069]

@ Well he's gotta be an dumb to leave money on the table because he needs quick cash.

[@shenanitims4006]

I’m wondering, do you think he needed the money, or just realized that he had a basement full of KISS-branded garbage and their fan base is rapidly dying off?

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

On that Kiss memorabilia, that's a hard buy for me. I know the items get more rare with time, but so do the fans & collectors.

[@SmoakinThrills]

As many others have said, this channel beats every “reality” pawn and picking show by a mile. People who are actually into this stuff are so tired of the obviously fake tv shows. The people on them are clearly acting, the items they bring in are clearly planted or provided to them to bring in, etc. It’s so refreshing to see REAL items and REAL negotiations. And it’s also super refreshing that this guy actually knows his shit. No one needs to “call a buddy who knows about this stuff”. They just know their stuff. It’s great. And when they don’t know what it is, they openly admit that and try to research the items.

[@EpicOpMc]

Kinda feel bad for the guy, but when you have incredibly specific collectors items and you go to sell them to someone who isn't a collector both of you are taking a risk. If he didn't need the money right away he probably should've just sold them himself on eBay. It's certainly a risk for Pete but a risk that has upside, especially if the guy gave him specific key words. Fun negotiation to watch as always.

[@brianfrost2695]

Pete! Just buy some of them to reduce your risk. Let him know that you will happily buy more according to your resale success.

[@jamnbryan1]

if this guy was so convinced these would sell right away for $800 each or whatever, he would be listing them on ebay himself and selling everything in a few days. but i think this is just another case of a collector overvaluing his stuff because he paid retail prices for everything. at the end of the day, i’m sure pete will at least double his money in time but i highly doubt he will come anywhere close to the $15k this guy claims it’s all worth. if he does get that much, he certainly made a deal of a lifetime

[@carmine_]

Ok if everyone thought that way, then these type of businesses would not be around lol thats not how it works bud.. selling them urself, you have to put way more work in.. you have to send them all out… a lot of waiting around and especially for the ppl that need the money right away.. so what u said does not make much sense, otherwise why would most ppl just not do that in the first place

[@lociflow6154]

I'm pretty sure he needed some quick money and that's why he went there.

[@aka-Legendary]

Kiss was a band made to market everything. When 1 uses cheap overseas labor. The more ya buy tha cheaper cost. They made shitloads of all this SHIT!

[@Bill-vd1ke]

Been collecting kiss stuff for 50 if Pete passes on it he will regret it later

[@ToddyTornado]

​@@carmine_ exactly. Takes allot of work

[@D3cyTH3r]

Any chance of an update on these? -super interesting items! (My gut was that the guy was telling the truth, but as others have pointed, he may have been a really, really good scam artist.)

[@randallbaker4293]

Just looked up the brass KISS from 1976 and it went for $500 in G/VG condition. The customer was sighting a figure of $800. His might be in excellent condition which might reflect the higher price.

[@BILL_COSBY_ASMR]

The thing about Kiss stuff it was sooooo mass produced!!! I sell lots of rare music stuff, Kiss (to me), 99% of the items are worthless.

[@milestonowheres]

It is almost a scam . There isn’t really Kiss music fans .. just people caught up in a merchandise pyramid scam…

[@channelthree9424]

You’re right about things being mass-produced. They don’t have as much value because they’re not rare. I have learned that from years of watching the antique roadshow. I grew up in the era of KISS. I cannot name a single one of their songs and the only member I know is Gene Simmons. But I can tell you the name of several Beatles or Rolling Stones songs and not even a fan.

[@deadguysuperstar]

Your name has me dying 🤣

[@andreashaggstrom]

Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

[@andreashaggstrom]

@@channelthree9424 Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

[@elmolewis9123]

To get to this level of Kiss memorabilia, I can't help thinking, why? Now if he had Trump Superhero cards... 🤣

The die hard KISS fans are mostly men in their 50s, with a good income, lives boring life and can spend a lot of money on collecting KISS stuff. It`s a HUGE community that has been growing since the mid 70s. Peter knows this and he also knows if he is patient on Ebay he will triple what he gave for it

[@rainymctrixie1]

Those wouldn't be worth shat.

[@brolisimo]

must be some kind of obsession based mental disorder

[@chickenwing111]

I never understood the appeal of KISS.

[@scraptheplanet4446]

Really enjoyed watching how this negotiation progressed. You are very transparent about your logic, which in and of itself is very easy to follow. You even offered him consignment which was very fair of you. You are a very fair and respectful businessman.

[@Reelaction-305]

He’s a thief

[@ButtermilkFlips]

@@Reelaction-305 You are 12

[@Perspective207]

​@@Reelaction-305envy is so obvious

[@silvialivick3034]

Those 3 dudes that left looked guilty😂😂😂

[@projectj3494]

Was waiting for an update about this collector getting robbed in the parking lot…

[@demonicar]

I can’t imagine dropping any amount of money on a kiss belt buckle but whatever floats your boat.

[@ayayron7776]

*Thanks for sharing your journey of emotions through the negotiation process.😅*

[@d.a.s.3921]

Peter, . I have watched many of your videos. People in your industry have a semi negative reputation. I have concluded that you are an upstanding man. I am also polish. REZCEK. I also was born in Hammond Indiana 1967. If you have children, they are lucky to have you as a father. You are compassionate, wise and intelligent. My grandmother worked for many years at Chicago Times. She made the best Pierogi . Farmers cheese/, sauerkraut, onion/potato. You make our heritage proud. A true NEW American. We need more like you in today's climate. I would love to have a beer with you some day 🙂 Continued success .

[@louisredelinghuys2681]

Hey Peter. I have recently started following your channel from South Africa. I want to compliment you on whatever you are doing that we don’t have to endure this endless interruption of sponsored adverts. It is great to simply click on, and go straight into your clip. Keep up the good work, Louis.

[@Sparkykelly1]

You should do little tours of your shop from time to time, like the intro on this vid, that way people watching can get an idea of what's available in your store.

[@VegasAlien1]

I had a '77 Pacifica oval Kiss belt buckle with a prism logo on black field. I wore that all the time. Wore it out.

[@alaskansummertime]

I can't see how there would be any way to tell it wasn't made last year in a Chinese sweatshop. With that sort of money to be made they can make the effort to make perfect copies.

[@eliwang858]

Hope they are all fake, bite it big time...low baller peteie

[@ZoobleZi]

@@eliwang858 Lol they aren't Pete is a pro, silly boi LOL

[@spaniardsrmoors6817]

@@eliwang858 If you were the buyer you would do the same, as he said the buyer takes all the risks, I always did the same unless I knew the item(s) would sell for a quick profit then pay what the seller asks. Especially not knowing that market you never buy unless you feel comfortable and as he said still no guarantee he won't lose or may take forever to sell for the little profit he may make. If you want to be the nice guy, trust all customers, pay what they ask see how long you stay in business. You would quickly get the reputation as a patsy and taken advantage of.

[@darklordojeda]

@@eliwang858 Yeah, because the cost of running a business is $0 right? Remember the sellers don't have to sell their stuff. They choose to walk into a PAWN SHOP and they also choose to accept or reject the offer.

[@KarlUKmidlands]

@@darklordojeda Exactly, guy was free to choose to take the cash or walk away, I don't think some people understand how capitalism and running a business works

[@ziddi2603]

Seems to me that if i were a serious collector of Kiss (or any) memorabilia, i would want to sell it on my own to maximize my profit/minimize my losses.

He needed quick cash. Seemed pretty desperate to me. People having belt buckles from the 70s are die hard collectors.

[@chrism4008]

I would imagine the group of KISS collectors is dwindling over time

[@jking5570]

Exactly my man...KISS have a very loyal following of middle aged men....but their music wont be listened to with future gens,,,Led Zeplin ect yes..because their music transends

It has nothing to do with the band being active. It can actually grow now they are gone. Like when painters die.

[@blackjuju5154]

100%. The market will be flooded when the middle aged fans need to move it on.

[@Yinz_Kno_Johnny]

I don't even like kiss but this is interesting. As far as collectibles, I think other artists should do stuff like this now. Limited runs of stuff

[@lawfullucyless6715]

I don't like it because it turns into who has the most money not who actually won it. Like sneaker raffles and concert tickets. You now have to buy your place on line....it's just so sketchy. The stuff just sold at shows I like ❤

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

They were sold at concerts... So I'm thinking a couple of thousand for sale at each concert. That's a LOT of buckles!!!

[@ramalama9650]

That was a brilliant video to watch and I'm not even into Kiss collectables! One of the best I've seen from you for a a long time.

[@MissKatieLane95]

Polish People Unite! Love you Peter❤❤❤ from Poland 🇵🇱

[@carmine_]

I actually truly believed that guy knew what he was talking about and he seemed very trustworthy.. usually you can tell pretty fast when someone is trying to screw you over or someone that is just fake and i know some ppl are good at hiding it and can seem way more real then they r but i did not get that with this guy.. i mean going from 7k to 5k is a big difference, its not like he came down just a little but hey ending up getting it done at 3500.. love this channel tho, ur a good guy

[@jamnbryan1]

if your barometer for determining if someone is honest and trustworthy is derived from whether or not a stranger trying to sell you something sounds knowledgeable..you are the perfect mark. "believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see." the best con artists will make you believe they're honest and trustworthy while they rob you completely blind. i'm not saying this guy is a scammer, but just because he talked a good game and put on a good show (which is debatable, since pretty much everything he had pete lookup came back selling for a fraction of what he claimed) doesn't mean he can be trusted. at the end of the day, he has a vested interest (and financial gain) in unloading his wares for as much money as possible. clearly he is a solid salesman. but both he and pete knew damn well that stuff wasn't worth 15k. hence why the guy shook hands on $3500 and pete walked away with the whole lot

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

@@jamnbryan1 Lmao he didn't talk a good game, he's a pretty terrible salesman actually, which played to his advantage somehow.

[@chriscookesuffolk]

I don't like Kiss. I don't like belt buckles. I do not go into pawn shops. Yet I watched and enjoyed the video and will continue to watch and enjoy many more.

[@zombielover317able]

He went from total value of $14,000 willing to accept $8,000 , now willing to accept $4,000, something's not right here😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😅😅 he tried so hard😊

[@CHawkens]

3500 is what he caved for. lol i know that guy was trying to just get rid of his shit to pete. KISS collectible are not even selling at all on 2nd markets. I wish pete would of said no to this deal something doesnt seem right about it

Nothing shady here. He just needed some money fast. Yes, he over priced it by 15-20% but thats what you do. He knows Peter is a slick business man ;)

[@andreashaggstrom]

Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

[@FLYNNER.]

The dude is a Guppy

[@RonMorisseau]

@@andreashaggstrom ''RAINMAN''

[@Nekotaku_TV]

Haha the cat laying there so close is so funny and cool. Why doesn't he sell them himself?

[@Scoofnie]

I liked how you threw in the consignment thing, I was thinking it in my head because it’s such small items that wouldn’t take up much room to store.

[@alientruthseeker666]

I never knew that KISS stuff was so collectable. I grew up in that time and KISS just wasn't my thing, but it was very interesting to see that those KISS people are still around and collecting! Thank you for a very informative video!

[@thetruepatriot7733]

Its extremely collectable...probably the top 3 most collectable music memorabilia from that era. Kiss is up there with the Beatles.

[@davidrinehart5924]

​@thetruepatriot7733 Yeah, but for kiss, the people that collect are getting less and less by the day. Either getting toi old for it or not around anymore.

[@kevinmach730]

@@davidrinehart5924 You could say that about any genre of collectibles at some point, that it's aging fan base is dying. I am personally not a huge Kiss fan, but I am old enough to remember them being HUGE growing up and I am not even 50 years old yet. There will be Kiss fans around for a long time. That said, I don't doubt it's collectible, but I don't think it's anywhere near what the value the seller is claiming.

[@joesmells-t2n]

probably because he releases new stuff to sell everyday hahaha@@davidrinehart5924

It`s mostly the 70s and early 80s merch that sells for a lot of money. The period between 1981 and 1983 is also pretty collectable. Vinnie Vincent stuff is the new thing.

[@POETICJUSTICE15]

"you can get $14K" but continued to take $3500. Hmmmmm...🤔

[@BillyAu]

He might get close to what he paid, for the Ki$$ stuff. Just way too much $$$ for mass produced memorabilia!

[@andreashaggstrom]

Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

[@LTDan-hu5fq]

These buckles are not that rare! What is rare is anyone that would get caught wearing one!!! LOL

[@darklordojeda]

LMFAO!

[@suzanneandrews2942]

If that was Prince memorabilia I would have been on Ebay instantly 😆 so interesting that, loved it 👌

[@bouncerslabrealnature9143]

Kiss items still sell around here but they sell very slowly now. 10 years ago we could get 100 times what we get now. ⚠️🤔 The prices have dropped drastically and the interest just isn't there anymore.

[@G31mR]

I'm only half-way through the video, but can't help but notice that....according to the SELLER.....all the same/similar items listed on Ebay/etc. are standard ones worth $35 and all his items are "special/rare" ones worth $800. Call me skeptical, but I'd be leery.

[@randyduncan4004]

Another FUN great little video. Ways To Improve: Show items right away, and show entire groups of items. You need a camera above to shoot the counter so we can see what yall are doing. I am grateful to see a tough biz ran by good people. your true good guy reasonable , your asst is cool and calm and …. THAT FLUFFYASS CAT !!! Seriously tho think about it. Ceiling cam to counter, and show the goods immediately. You’re welcome. 😂. Great channel !!!! I can go garage hunting from my home AND not spend money, plus I learn cool stuff. Again great attitude and kindness.

[@MichaelW969]

I just found your channel and enjoy your content. You seem like a nice guy who runs an honest business. I sure hope you recoup your $3500 on this transaction! If they were worth what he was claiming, it was in his best interest to list and sell them individually, which makes me skeptical. Good luck!

[@dagorider55]

I woulda walked away a long time ago and said I wasn’t interested. I was shocked when you actually paid cash for them all. Verify always before you pay! 16:14 and 20:55 said it all for me! You said it yourself twice. Just walk away from deals like that brother! I hope you made a good turnaround on them!

[@EmeraldHill-vo1cs]

Ha, he doesnt want to knock 20 percent off and flog em to collectors; he's just gonna do you a big favour and sell em for half price. Maybe he wants to get out of dodge before the senile relative or whoever he borrowed them from twigs and calls the cops.

[@Toolness1]

I got excited that you might have an FFL as well but then saw the orange muzzles and realized that was all airsoft and BB stuff. Still an awesome shop I would definitely check out if I lived there.

[@aarond23]

So like alot of 'collectibles' this guy spends his whole life buying this stuff and colleting and in the end he 'loses' $10,500 of the value that he thought they wore worth, because he needed cash that minute instead of selling them over a month or so on Ebay? I know its why people sell things at pawn shops to begin with, but still a little strange.

[@robthagod4870]

This was way too risky. I’d imagine Pete lost big on this.

Wrong. I think he will double it if not triple. He read the seller very quickly as someone who needed cash fast.

[@robthagod4870]

@ based on what? I looked up eBay comps and they weren't good.

[@zegotashalom3881]

I will give you ten bucks apiece...long live Rock and Roll. God Bless.

[@geoffduke1763]

Big red flag for me was when Pete offered to list them on ebay and split them 50/50 the guy was like NOOOO gimme the cash!

[@Masher8559]

Not a red flag, its a guy who needs cash quickly else he would not be selling his collection he spent decades building, eBay takes a lot of work and time but over that time you will make a lot more money, however if you are in need of some quick cash you go to shops like these, else this type of business wouldn't exist. Pete him self always states he aims to double his money, with that knowledge customers would go home and sell it on eBay for twice as much, but they don't because it requires time and effort at a time when they need cash right now for bills or what ever.

[@seriousorganizer]

@@Masher8559 ...he said he had all day.....

[@turntablesrockmyworld9315]

@@seriousorganizer This guy needed $$ quick. He is a serious collector. I sell on e-bay and things can sit for months if not years for specific niche items.

Thats because he needed fast cash. Getting all that stuff sold on Ebay will take at least 6 months.

@@seriousorganizer He said he had all day to make a list. Not selling them. He needed cash fast.

[@ReiHost]

The Baseball Card and Comic speculator markets of the 90s taught me anything made with the specific intent to be collectible and appreciate in value is worthless inside 10 years.

[@jakestoe]

You might want to look up some of the cards if you still have them..some 90s inserts are pretty valuable.

[@ptshyu2]

@@jakestoe late 80s to early/mid 90s are the junk years for baseball over produced to make it worth anything

[@darklordojeda]

@@ptshyu2 Yeah those were some bad years but it's even worse now because all the products are severely overpriced and what these collectors call "hits" are guaranteed 2 or 3 per box. So it's not a "hit" if it's guaranteed. Back in the day it was a hit because it was 1 in 100 packs for an insert and even more rare to find an auto. The hobby is just for the rich people now.

[@GordMcknob]

This is why these pawn shops make a killing ,,, they know how to shake you down and take your goods for dirt cheap .. I love the way he worked this sucker .. If this poor guy would have sold his KISS stuff on eBay he would have got his 7 grand , plus another 2 or 3 ,, guaranteed . 😂

[@Imajica69]

As a pawnbroker for 8 years, and a 30 year KISS fan, this one had me rolling. I mean I don't know if I would've been able to pay out $3500 for those belt buckles. While they were probably worth it, its hard to know if its original 70s first time runs or reprints/reproductions. That would be my major issue with it. Yes collectors will pay big money for this stuff. I personally collect some KISS memorabilia, but am not hard core about it. I collect a lot of different things, most of my KISS stuff is low key like books and posters and photos. So belt buckles, not my area of specialty. KISS put out so much stuff and the original 70s merch can pull some really good money. But the whole interaction to a T was just exactly what I could see happening at my shop. Not having comps for the stuff and having to take the guys word is a hard sell. He really should have done you a favor and just started with one and brought them in one or two at a time over a few months rather than all at once. I mean maybe he needed it all ASAP I guess, but that is something I would have sold out online myself rather than bring them to a resale shop. But yeah as a KISS fan and pawn broker that would have been a very difficult negotiation for sure.

[@maccusmc]

I've been a pawn shop owner for 26 years and you're wrong. There was 12k worth of product there

[@Imajica69]

@@maccusmc What am I "wrong" about?

[@maccusmc]

@@Imajica69 exactly

[@Mike-01234]

@@maccusmc There is a reason he is bringing to this shop instead of selling them himself?

[@OzzyInSpace]

Consignment is perfect for mitigating risk, and most importantly it protects you (the business owner) from taking a bit hit. And 50/50 on consignment is also a really great deal for the seller... it's the business owner spending the money on employees taking pictures and setting it up to sell online (among other expenses); Pretty generous indeed.

[@NutzBdragon]

if you pay someone to take pictures of stuff, you're doing it wrong. I surprised you didn't throw time into the equation. as it is I'm typing up this rebuttal while I'm sitting on the toilet. boomer ways of thinking are dead. technology makes things EASYER. You're still thinking as you take a pic on a camera then you need to take the sd card out and upload it to the computer and edit them. those times have gone. when someone tells me "it takes time and money" I know they are old school bsers.

[@origintrackz5235]

@@NutzBdragon It does take time and money to do research and to take good pictures, sure some items are an easy few pictures and you post it, others not so much, some items just don't photograph well...

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

@@NutzBdragon Just because your time and effort are worthless doesn't mean everybody's are

[@traydragen]

Kiss merch is so tricky. The collectors have to be dying off no...??

[@aarond23]

I agree most hard core KISS fans are now 60+

[@darklordojeda]

The majority of them just grew out of their teens. Clown makeup and "rebel rock". Most 70 year old people are kinda over their rebellious stage.

[@JCreole]

Pete needs to let the cat decide next time….😂

[@EmeraldHill-vo1cs]

Yep honey was watching--she's security cat.

[@CAMELFLAM]

Probably just ended up with Peter Criss stuff only

[@Calgarycommunitywatch]

Always go with you gut feeling . Makes you wonder why he wouldn’t sell them himself on eBay ???

[@kevinmach730]

Personally, I don't wonder- he probably tried to sell a couple and no one wanted to pay his price. He's probably on every social media forum dedicated to Kiss from FB to Reddit and no one wants to pay what he thinks they are worth.

[@bradleykaiser6738]

Yeah id pass if it was so easy to list on ebay why would he discount 50% when he could sell it himself for 14000.?

[@gregoryhawsjr3479]

Probably need cash money. I seen some weird kiss memorabilia like signed concert photos. Sell on pawn stars for litterally 55k.

[@ThaGreatestAlexander]

he knew his stuff, i think Pete will do well! I love these collector experts.

[@Mistyvalentine]

I think this is the only time I've ever seen Pete pay too much for anything! I think it is going to take years to recoup that kind of money for this stuff! If it was really worth what the guy was saying he would have sold it himself. He probably already had it listed on Ebay and saw that there just aren't any buyers who are willing to pay that much for this stuff!

[@kevinmach730]

I agree, it's going to take a while and I don't think he's going to make a killing. I can't speak for everyone, I just don't find a belt buckle all that exciting- unless maybe it was actually worn by someone in the band, etc. As some people mentioned in other comments here, I think he's already knows collectors and in been in collector forums and realized no one wants to pay what he thinks they should be going for.

[@deadguysuperstar]

I was so hoping Pete was going to walk away on this one cause he seemed like he was gonna be real butt hurt that he couldn’t sell his Kiss belt buckles 😂

[@ChrissTreasureChest]

I never new that that type of Kiss item is worth that kind of money. I have had Kiss items I sold and did ok. I will be on the look out for these belt buckles for sure. Nice score Pete!

[@pheuker45322]

Great negotiation- both parties were reluctantly happy in the end

[@95PoundMole]

LOL @ trying to justify KISS variants. This is Gene's "belt size after a bad Chinese meal" Kosovo buckle, but in blue! This one is Paul's "2pm Tea Break with the King of Norway" Austrian buckle.

[@Imajica69]

Well in looking at the Ebay store, I guess you figured it all out. Amazing collection and again a great video.

[@seriousorganizer]

The guy said he'll help him....

[@quickturn66]

Honey is suspicious about this deal......

[@gypsyalex999]

Start the auction @ 3500 for the lot Pete. Let it ride. Like every other item, it’s only worth with someone’s willing to pay. I hope this one works out. 🔮👍🏼💵

[@sirploko]

No, these are collectors items. If somebody owns most of these, he's not gonna be paying for all of them just to get the ones he wants. They need to be listed separately.

[@seriousorganizer]

No it should be listed all seperately ...

[@Slideyslide]

I hope you did alright on those belt buckles. I would be too scared to make that deal on such a niche item.

[@simonsinistaj1917]

I would have never bought it. Just way too specific of a market to spend money on. Literally just me thinking about anyone wearing a fucking Kiss belt buckle makes me laugh.

[@Digitalgems9000]

"that one is the rarest out of all of them" "that one is the rarest out of all of them" lol if you say that two times, they negate themselves. huge red flags

[@MuchWowMoonBoy]

Reminds me of Pokemon Cards. Unlimited and Shadowless Base most people can't see the difference but the value changes big time off just some different colors and a different font. I have no idea if those belt buckles are actually rare or is he just trying to trick you.

[@matt1074]

Please keep us posted on the sale of these. I'm very interested how much you make. I'm hoping you get the 14k lol

[@adamshinbrot]

Kiss collectibles = Beanie Babies

[@ilj1259]

Not really Beanie babies was a passing fad aimed towards kids and moms. Kiss is action figures and music related.

[@Erikr-ex9dj]

Watching honeys reaction to the negotiations reminds me of Monty pythons cat confusers.

[@mrskipadedodah5094]

Today I learned KISS fans unlike today’s Rap fans wore belts.

[@aslobos]

Wow. What negotiations. 😲😎 I kept on hearing the Mission Impossible theme song in the background. 🎼🎶. Love how Honey was there in the beginning, watching out for her papa. 😻

[@shawnrodgers2180]

The dude probably has them on eBay and he's not selling any. Probably why he came to Pete to get rid of his eBay merchandise

[@projectj3494]

Funny if the prices they were seeing online were actually the customers eBay account..😂

[@bhambhole]

The contrast between those who buy items new with expendable income and those who score and resale such items by finding deals is interesting to me.

[@mitchstaff8281]

Just think how much they'd be worth if Kiss were a really good band.

[@MS-st1zb]

Same sound, same chords, every song. Terrible.

[@darklordojeda]

It was a gimmick and the fans just never grew up. Shit band and clown paint.

[@rob-pm7gb]

Kiss is really good live, they sound just like their album.......... HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!!! lol

[@MrRidleyDog]

This is what I must sound like when I'm explaining to my wife why I need another guitar that looks pretty much like all my other guitars.

[@garyhenry2546]

You should list them for him and take 25% and no money invested

[@jordiurlings6016]

The right thing to do here was to pay him 3500 + 100 or 200 for him giving you all the exact item details which are part of the future selling price and item description. The poor guy sold all his collection giving him a bit more for his knowledge I'm sure would have lifted him up a bit.

[@Cooldaddio2]

I wouldnt buy any of those. But Pete must see some potential there.

[@alenkoka7711]

You don’t know what he got there he’ll make over 10k easy !!!

[@andreashaggstrom]

Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

[@marcusweathers5867]

It's still true beauty is in the eye of the beholder😮...along with lots of disposable income...2023...!!

[@SPak-rt2gb]

Remember you got burned on those jerseys

[@davidsorensen7438]

Only on 2 out of what 40

[@eliwang858]

Ha ha ha

[@Luke-jx3mj]

When he said 14k meaning he wanted 7k, I would've ran a mile. Spending that sort of money there can be no doubts. The bloke was one of those sorts that pulls price/s right out of his arse.

[@Tricome187]

Yup he's definitely a grifter..

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

He would have walked away from my offer of $100/each!

[@Crosshatch1212]

No he spend silly money now he thinks someone else should pay silly money .

[@upsfordays4662]

You Sound like my ausie friend

[@iamgabriel5823]

I can't believe Pete fell for this "used car salesman."

[@johndillon1469]

Yep I would be nervous and very skeptical of this to volatile of a market and in this economy not worth the gamble. Time to grind it out until things heat up, No when to hold em no when to fold em, know when to walk away, no when to run, this is a Walk Away and Hold em

[@lisac.7673]

my only concern would be is are Kiss fans a dying breed?

[@beckykcgrrl9850]

Loved watching the last minutes of the Walton bidding!

[@pben4899]

Man you could tell he wanted those buckles, most excited I have seen him get. I bet with he could have gotten him to the 4K if he played his cards right. Maybe with the old walk away move at 3,500. When it’s fair they’ll follow you out to the parking lot for it.

[@malcolmclements9254]

In 72 Gene Simmons was influenced by this remarkable UK band Slade. They listened to Slade Alive and were impressed by Dave Hills futuristic clothes but especially his platform boots. In 73 Kiss were formed. Kiss were also influenced by Alice Cooper. In a way certainly of their amazing stage outfit's, Kiss were the end product.

[@speedfreak8200]

No Straight Jacket, though I bet

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Kiss, Merchandise everything, and at the end of the day, it's junk, unless you are a big Kiss fan.

[@gregoryhawsjr3479]

True. But fans and collectors will pay. It’s just like coins. Super rare coins. I seen coins bought at yard sale for 5$. Sell for 1.3m. There’s a market for anything. You just have to know where to look. Me personally I’m not into kiss memoriabilia

[@capslock4959]

you can say that about anything though lol

[@apethegamer1783]

I loved how the whole room went silent when he says 14,000 dollars

[@Droop75]

Good for Pete for not giving in on something he wasn’t sure about. It’s telling that the guy took $3,500 for them instead of just listing them on EBay himself and getting what he was saying Pete could get. Pete handled that guy masterfully.

[@chrisperry9002]

He still got screwed pal. He'll never make that kind of money back.😅😅😅😂😂😂😢😢

[@royanderson3478]

​@Chris Perry Peter knows 20-30% offers is golden rule ✨️. Peter should easily double up $$$

[@carmine_]

Thats not really how it works lol if that was the case why would most ppl just not do that??? Lol if they did, then yea they can make more money but then you have to put all the extra work in… you have to wait around and a bunch of other things lol especially for ppl that need the money right away… so what u said makes no sense at all.. these type of businesses would not even be around, if everyone thought the way u did… idk i can sense ppl really well and see who is fake and untrustworthy and I actually believed this guy

[@mediaguy4037]

@@chrisperry9002 I doubt he will double his money. He might make a 1000$ or $1500 off of it.

[@chrisperry9002]

@@mediaguy4037 I doubt he'll break even. He's too nice to be in that business.