Is the SEC Football Dominance Over?

[@jimmyjam5453]

Now every team can get their players a 60 thousand dollar hellcat not just the SEC

[@lutherheggs]

Make mine a Grumman Tiger 4 seater with the 180 hp Lycoming engine.

[@natpickron9788]

More teams in other conferences have been caught than the sec for cheating

[@chriswilliams3084]

I think that Michigan wooing away Bryce Underwood from LSU is a good example of how the era of NIL has changed things. Not sure that happens 5 years ago.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

The B1G schools have WAY more money than the southern schools.

[@Golfing422]

I’m old enough to remember when Michigan would go down there to Louisiana and snag good players.

[@bleachorange]

​@Golfing422 but money is an equalizing factor for sure. Players want to play, particularly if they can get a big payday while getting off the bench.

[@richardsansbury7453]

Not about the SEC having a lot of money. It's about each individual team having money to pay for the players. It's professional football 🏈

[@losthighway4840]

2:30 the same old SEC talking points that have entirely to do with the top 2-3 teams, and neglects the rest.

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

What other conference has top "2-3 teams" that have won natties recently? Oh none? 😂

[@chrishaugh1655]

How convenient that over the last 10-15 years the SEC has also dominated in out of conference wins vs the other conferences, but we overlook that part because it doesn't fit your little hate the SEC narrative.

[@jimmyjam5453]

They should ask what conference has given out more hellcats than any other conference... before it was legal.

[@willcampbell2485]

That’s the same for every other conference too lol but at a lower caliber from top to bottom. The big 10s top 3 are the only ones in the conference to win championships in the last 15 years.

[@losthighway4840]

@ ok then don’t pretend you played some juggernaut schedule, and get every tiebreak consideration. Texas had 1 tough game, and then the conf championship game.

[@alexe727]

The reality is the SEC only “just means more” at 3-4 schools. Nick Saban alone is responsible for 7 national championships for the conference this century. Without him, what is the SEC today? The Ole Miss, South Carolina fans of the world will shout “SEC”, when the reality is there program can’t even hold the jock strap of a program like Alabama or LSU.

[@carlcarter9415]

People talk about the top teams or championships.. Everyone forgets way more top end recruits go to the SEC than any other conference. Not to mention way more draft picks come out of the SEC than any other conference

[@alexe727]

@ Nobody cares about the bottom half of the SEC, none of the programs have accomplished a damn thing.

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

That will be changing. Money talks and nobody has money like Big Ten schools except MAYBE Texas and Texas A&M.

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

@@CertifiedClapaholicSo you’re saying the big 10 will be buying the southern players.

[@Bambino_60]

Georgia and Auburn

[@Jumbo-D]

Conferences are yesterday's news. Time to think nationally. No more big fish in a small pond. You better start swimming or you will sink like a rock, the times they are a changing.

[@reconsoldier135]

It’s a lot easier to dominate when you’re the only conference paying players, now that everybody’s paying players the SEC might never win another championship again

[@jakeMontejo3272]

Georgia, Texas & Alabama will always be in the championship hunt. LSU, maybe, they really don’t have $$$ like the others.

[@scratchsescape1978]

SEC fan for seven decades. IMHO competition improves the fan experience. If we dominated all the time it would be boring. I'm not a fan of NIL and the Portal but I understand I just have to live with it. If parity of talent is the result then the new difference maker will be coaching and I see nothing wrong with that.

[@mikemachado2913]

You I never hear how skewed the rankings were during the past two decades….remeber in 2004 when auburn was 12-0 sec champs and they were left out of the championship game? Then a few years later ESPN sign the SEC contract to be their flagship conference…..then all of a sudden we started hearing about how good the SEC was all over TV and then the top 10 was being dominated in the rankings by SEC which gives the SEC more of a chance to get their flagship conference in the big game…..fast forward to this playoff system and we see SEC is not this elite conference with every single team that can win a title….in fact it looks like the second or third best conference when they are paired up with other conferences

[@jimmyjam5453]

True

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

@mikemachado2913 I've been shouting that fact for a decade, and it seems like nobody has been listening except you, lol. Thank you for spreading this awareness with me.

[@eyeofapophis888]

Now that college football is committed to a REAL playoff tournament, every team in every conference will need to earn the National title on the field. The actual first round playoff games ARE THE DATA POINTS. The best scenario would be to eliminate “selection committees” altogether. Personally, I would take the AP top 16 after the final regular season game and eliminate conference championship games. We don’t need a committee for selections or seeding. If a group of 5 makes it, great. If not, oh well. No byes, top 8 get home games. Next round top 4 surviving seeds get home games. Semis will be major bowl and Title game a bowl. We do this every year in high school football , and every year the true champion wins the title.

[@manuelmelendez3140]

Sounds good, however, it would still be tainted with SEC bias somewhere and you would see that in the final of a "selection" committee.

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

Waaaah waah it's so unfaaair that the south is good at college football boohoo we need to cha ge everything so they can stop winning its not faaaaair, it's biaased 😢😢

[@eyeofapophis888]

@ dawg 💩.

[@gabeswitala2292]

I could see the writing on the wall for the sec in oct 23

[@xmositoxc147]

LOL at Blaine... He seems like a delusional little whiny kid

[@_jse123]

OSu had 33 pass attempts against Michigan stop lying

[@boschlosser10]

Yeah they are dumb Michigan is going to be scary next year that defense

[@youdontknow7190]

2:59 SEC doesn’t have money like the other land schools

[@GeraldMothershed]

Texas has more money than any four major college programs combined. The wealthiest program in the Big 10 has an endowment of around 19 billion, Texas has an endowment of just under 50 billion. Texas A&M has way more money than most people think. As for the rest of the SEC, outside of Alabama and Georgia, schools definitely have less money than an average Big 10 program, so I understand your point.

[@jimmyjam5453]

​@@GeraldMothersheddid you forget about Oregon

[@sgcrayna1357]

@@GeraldMothershedyes but endowment doesn’t matter because it’s for the entire university. The better number is the athletic department budget.

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

@GeraldMothershed endowment doesn't matter. It's the potential money these schools have to play with because of their alumni base, and Texas isn't even in the top 11 while THREE Big Ten schools are: Top 11 US universities by number of undergraduate alumni† on 2022 Forbes 400 list[15]: Rank University Number 1 United States University of Pennsylvania 17 2 United States Harvard University 11 2 United States Yale University 11 4 United States University of Southern California 10 5 United States Stanford University 9 6 United States Princeton University 8 7 United States Columbia University 7 7 United States Cornell University 7 7 United States University of Michigan 7 10 United States Dartmouth College 6 10 United States New York University 6

[@GeraldMothershed]

@CertifiedClapaholic You're technically correct, schools aren't currently allowed to DIRECTLY contribute to NIL. This doesn't prevent schools like Texas from using their considerable wealth and influence to build relationships with companies that will, in turn, contribute to that school's collectives. Texas is legally able to build relationships with companies who eventually contribute cash or services back to the Texas One collective. We've all heard of Texas players getting Lamborghinis, some also get access to private jets. These things are a result of Texas' ability to indirectly contribute to NIL. Paint it any color you like, but Texas' vast wealth advantage has played and will continue to play a major role in NIL. We also know that it's only a matter of time before schools are allowed to pay players directly. If they don't build guardrails into any future NIL policies then you'll begin to see schools like Texas separate themselves from everyone else..... Which I don't think is a good thing. Not to mention that the list you've provided largely contains schools who can never construct a powerhouse football program due to their high academic standards. Princeton and Yale aren't lowering their academic standards so they can win a natty.

[@manuelmelendez3140]

Maybe the NCAA will figure out how to leave those bogus rankings out of the "equation" of determining a "strength of schedule" and just go by records. David is on to something that can at least keep these hacks from overranking teams in the Severely Exaggerated Conference and when it comes down to the finish the best teams with the best records head to the bracket and the rest wait for another season.

[@jackpackage4278]

That’s actually a really good point I’d never thought of. 6 of the 13 of the SEC’s recent championships were won by the greatest college football coach ever who just happened to coach in the SEC. Not saying they don’t count but it’s more like the that’s also very lucky for the SEC and speaks to Bama’s dominance way more than the conference as a whole.

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

Even if you take away Saban's rings, the SEC still has more rings than any other conference during that time. You also forgot to mention that Saban could only win championships using SEC recruiting pools since the south is more football talen dense. Nice try though!

[@jimmyjam5453]

​@@yearofthedawgs8581without Nicks 6 rings those wins would have been for another conference... except for the LSU game.

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

@@jimmyjam5453 "if the SEC didn't win then another conference would have won" well no shit. But guess what? It happened

[@jimmyjam5453]

@@yearofthedawgs8581 You're the one that said take Nick away..so I did.

[@jamesnelson9664]

Yea paying players to bring them in and ncaa letting it happen was the only reason they was dominating like that so they really cheated so

[@jadebrecks]

I am not for ripping teams apart but I will say watching the 2nd and 3rd stingers for these teams shine at other teams as starters is all around better for football games overall. The next thing we need to do for the betterment of college football is looking at ditching ESPN's monopoly of it. Either way on all of it it has seriously got under Blain's skin.

[@theomegaman218]

Glad the “Good ole Boy” conference is over. They cheated, fixed games so the best team never lost. Never ratted on each other. Lost games for the good of the conference. Refs caught fixing games. Now with NIL they’ll stop doing it .

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

Dummy post right here. Acting as if the SEC are the only cheaters when we're literally just coming off a Big 10 natty that only happened because of cheating. And the one before that in 2014 by Urban Meyer, you's be a fool to think that man didn't cheat. And now that millions of dollars are involved, you somehow think cheating or foul play are just going to become obsolete? What a sore loser ignoramus you are 😂

[@MotleyDawg034]

Over😂😂😂cheated😂😂😂That’s Michigan

[@exclusiveman5]

Don’t like the sec then beat them when it matters. It’s simple if your program is about wining. Also Michigan literally got caught cheating what are you complaining about

[@theomegaman218]

@@exclusiveman5 UCLA beats them every time except this year .

[@exclusiveman5]

@@theomegaman218 UCLA can’t beat a 6-6 USC. UCLA is truly not on anyone’s radar. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

[@RoyFeagin]

I'm a Bama fan, and I think it's over for the whole SEC!

[@JustMe-unapologetically]

How is it over Texas a team that didnt win the SEC beat the best team in the Big 12 and the Best team in the ACC. I think that proves it isnt over.

[@EB-bl6cc]

Too many people are using emotion instead of logic in this argument. If you get rid of emotion and just look at the facts, you'll see that it's clearly not over for the SEC. Does the SEC still recruit really well, get tons of guys via the transfer portal, and have mostly good coaches? Yes, yes, and yes. These are essentially the only things that matter when it comes to winning in college football, so if you are checking these boxes then the results will come. You will have your ebbs and flows but over time the results will absolutely come.

[@boschlosser10]

That isn’t the B1G.. the B1G has the most money they bout to take over

[@AudiokultRadio]

The fact you haven't done a breakdown on ND Georgia and haven't done a ND v Penn St preview yet is disappointing

[@RSeaker]

24-17, PSU

[@jonathanwillis1143]

Big Ten Buckeye fan here. The SEC will continue to be the deepest conference top to bottom, and I don't think it will be close. What may change is the super elite teams at the top of the SEC may not always dominate CFB and the national title may be more of a mix of teams from various conferences. H.S. recruiting still matters and the South still rules in that sense. sEC teams should continue to be filled with excellent players and the conference will be deep with teams that can play anyone on any given day. The B1G will do well and will pluck some players from the South but not to the level that it depletes the talent pool to such an extent that SEC teams can't win and make the playoffs.

[@robertcox7555]

Great comment Jonathan Willis. Well stated

[@DaManAWu]

I think BIG will start to dominate more with NIL and revenue share. USC, Oregon, Penn St, Michigan,MSU, and Wisconsin are all very wealthy Universities. NW can be competitive if they want to. If ND joins the BIG, the money cannons will be pulling in more talent.

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

With what money?

[@fbharris67]

The post season results suggest that this year the Big Ten is stronger top to bottom. The criticism of the Big Ten having 3-4 great teams and the edge over the SECs top 3-4, with the SEC being far superior in the 4-8th best did not materialize this year. It should be highly concerning to SEC proponents when 7 seed OSU flays 8 seed Tennessee, 7-5 Michigan with its practice squad beats Alabama, or when Illinois beats South Carolina which had a huge point spread. And there was a highly mediocre USC beating Texas A and M and LSU. It could be argued that the entire mantra of the SEC having more great and good teams than anyone else was a mirage. At the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if next year the SEC does to the Big Ten what the Big Ten has done so far to the SEC.

[@danarose2677]

Ohio State has the 1870 Society for football and The Foundation for basketball. Average B1G fans are joining for 2 bucks a month. Don't forget the size of the B1G fan base.

[@jessejackson5585]

This is the first year that the national champ will not have won the ESPN invitational or the AP/Coaches beauty pageant. I'm of the opinion that the non 12 team playoff championships are about as legit as the ones pre-integration.

[@boschlosser10]

So you’re saying 2023 Michigan was an ESPN or AP darling no not at all they hated them and started a cheating narrative

[@PatBrooks-u6w]

Top 10 recruiting lists mean $h!!!T. Those lists are only based who they think will be good. All I heard is how great OU's recruiting has been in the last couple of years and they SUCKED on the field.

[@GeraldMothershed]

OU had their QB transfer to Oregon and they had a crazy number of injuries.... BTW, last year OU was a 10 win team. Another fun fact, counting this season, OU had two losing seasons since 1998. Going after literally the most consistent program in the nation wouldn't be my approach, just my thoughts.

[@MaxEllis]

Freshman recruiting doesn't mean anything today when they can transfer their sophomore year. Look at Indiana with their transfers - they were all three stars or below entering college

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

What's your point? All Indiana did was beat up on horrible Big 10 teams.

[@GeraldMothershed]

@@MaxEllis It matters to a school like Texas. Texas has the ability to satisfy the demand for more NIL money, which limits the number of players jumping ship.

[@kylev.2373]

@@yearofthedawgs8581They put up more points on Notre Dame than Georgia did

[@PAJ2396]

Yes we can base it off of one year, and it’s simply due to NIL. When everyone can pay, you quickly realize the lack that SEC schools have

[@bleachorange]

The longer money is in the sport, the more normalized it is, and the more often players with talent will move for money. Particularly on teams that stack talent on the bench. Players like to play. Not everyone will want to wait for their turn, even less so now that they can get a big payday out of it.

[@JBeck9932]

It's also geographics, with the exception of California, most of the greatest football players are born and raised in the south

[@ohrick8707]

SEC: It just means more. B1G: It just is more. The playing field has leveled. The NIL/Portal has allowed other teams to do what the SEC has long been suspected of. Retention has matched recruiting in importance. One-year mercenary players are factors. Until some contractual order is restored, it will remain a Wild West scenario.

[@paulday5722]

A big shift will be 4 and 5 star recruits not automatically favoring SEC schools during the recruiting process. For 20 years they have all believed that was the only way they could ever win a Natty. Now they understand that isn't true. This will further spread out the elite talent and SEC coaches won't always have that advantage every game.

[@jjpeeps9995]

Yes, because now it is all about which universities have the richest alumni or boosters. Players don't give a crap about the school, It's all about the $$$$! Ohio State is probably going to win the NC this year because of the team they bought out of the portal!

[@jamesnelson9664]

Yea just like how saban won 7 titles because he was paying players on a huge scale and wasnt getting in trouble for espen paid off the ncaa so they would keep there mouth shut

[@jjpeeps9995]

@@jamesnelson9664 Bullshit!

[@RSeaker]

The few brand names are no longer selected.

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Nil & the Transfer portal has exposed the player monopolies, like Alabama. I’ve been saying this for years!!!!!!

[@bradyschow3564]

I don’t think you can count national championships as dominance when for so long even getting the opportunity to play in them is based off of votes and publicity. Who’s to say they really were the best if they didn’t have to play a tournament and prove it.

[@chrishaugh1655]

Saying that it's 50/50 when it comes to the transfer portal and recruiting is one of the single dumbest things I've ever heard anyone say. Can you shore up some weaknesses? Yes. Will you build a sustainable winning environment? No. Look at FSU. They just got destroyed by the portal last year and again they're trying to fix the program with it this year because they can't recruit. Recruiting out of high school is still the primary source of program building and always will be.

[@Foggydidwhat]

The SEC dominance will dwindle in the sense that instead of winning 14 out of the last 20 national championships, they will probably only win 11 out of of the next 20 national championships

[@jimmyjam5453]

5 out of 20

[@Foggydidwhat]

@ all right, given the current cfb conferences and assuming there are no major regulatory changes for NIL or transfer portal aspects, we will have to take into account the 2025 recruits/transfers/roster, the current NIL pot for future additions, the quality of staff/infrastructure, the booster support, the facilities, etc. Let’s say only 5 championships are won by current SEC programs for national championship in the next 20 seasons (I believe that the five championships would likely consist of multiple teams. (Texas x2, Georgia, Florida, LSU)) Now would you mind splitting up/breaking down the other 15 seasons with an unnamed champion?

[@robertc8766]

miami this year thought they could win a natty by going to the portal but they didnt even make the playoffs.....recruiting still equals success, for now

[@brianjirish]

The only ppl who wants conference expansion while also crying about the expansion are SEC fans. Like, pick a lane and stay in it. My goodness the excuses are getting beyond embarrassing.

[@1337slic3]

0 SEC fans wanted expansion. It's the money that wanted expansion

[@brianjirish]

@@1337slic3 Yes, SEC fans wanted it. I live in SEC country and I constantly heard about it all before and during this season.

[@1337slic3]

@@brianjirish you are coping and lying at the same time. Unless you're counting somewhere like Missouri as "SEC country"

[@biggie_2p1stols7]

Thats a damn lie I heard no sec fans wanting expansion ​@@brianjirish

[@brianjirish]

@1337slic3 Coping? From what? My team doesn't NEED to rely on a conference. 🤷🤦🤷🤦🤷

[@bleachorange]

I do not think college football in the form it is now, will ever be the nfl. But I do think we will see much more parity than we have since the sport started getting televised.

[@bobwilliams5506]

If you fail at high scholl recruiting, you best excel in the portal!!

[@richardk54]

The best players come from the SEC country but turns out they dont want to be arrested for a plant. So now they're going elsewhere. Breaking news: College kids like smoking weed.

[@dg1019]

From a viewership perspective college football was becoming a southern sport. For the sport to grow that needs to change. The SEC dominance was not good for the sport as a whole.

[@ragmanintx]

Based on where the NFL drafts from... Not by a long shot.

[@erikkeller6389]

SEC was cheating.... We up here invented the sport. Time to dominate again 🇺🇸. Now we can all pay players there Forest Gump 😎. Yall fruitcakes only play 8 conference games 😅. Real Tough.

[@boschlosser10]

Agreed

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

You could have and were paying players just like the SEC. College football just sucks up north and out west. Yall don't care about it as much as we do down here. The only way the big 10 has a chance is for cfb to be professionalized so that you can pay to win.

[@PatBrooks-u6w]

Who are the "elite coaches"? 🤔

[@davidfloyd9134]

Fact the SEC & ACc only play 8 conference games. Prepares? Please

[@tarheel7406]

Coming out of the BIG12, OK made the playoffs ~4x but never won a game therein. Suggests weak competition that didn't prepare the champ to win outside.

[@davidfloyd9134]

Check out Texas Tech, BYU, Baylor, TCU. They have lots of money.

[@Golfing422]

They won’t dominate the way they have. A 12 team playoff, the portal, and nil have leveled the playing field. Before 12, the sec had a monopoly of at least 50 percent of the playoff spots, sometimes more. They’ll be good, but it won’t be automatic yearly championships any longer.

[@bobwilliams5506]

The SEC will always be the best! They will continue to push and dominate college football. The SEC will always have the best coaches, players, and NFL draft choices.

[@ragmanintx]

B1G and SEC still by far will have the best football. Wishing it weren't so doesn't make it so.

[@KINGPOOPS]

So now you're shifting the goalpost from "SEC" to "B1G and SEC". The fact that you're doing that shows that the SEC's dominance is over.

[@Bambino_60]

It needs to be balanced.

[@jamesnelson9664]

Well the bigten has more money then the sec so now we can pay players like they have been i think its lil more far

[@KirbysBelt]

Dude, no other league had a challenge besides the SEC. NONE.

[@alexe727]

🤡

[@evanschaffhauser9987]

Hence why their only team left is a team in its first year out the big 12

[@EB-bl6cc]

@@evanschaffhauser9987 cherrypicking. If this happened for multiple years you would have a point.

[@Montuckz]

leaders and legends is goated bruv

[@WhoTFisPaulFinebaum]

Another podcast that stops short of telling the whole truth, the SEC has been paying players for years!

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

Everybody has been

[@boschlosser10]

No B1G team did but OSU.. SMU did 80’s USC did Carrol Miami did in 2000’s.. I’m sure Texas and VYoung.. no B1G school did outside 1… SEC has done it 10000% since Urban came to UF.. and SEC didn’t get in trouble NIL has now proved it

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

@@boschlosser10 The only thing that proves is the Big ten has more money

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

​​@@boschlosser10If the midwest actually cared about college football like the south, then maybe they would have paid players. The truth is, it really does just matter more in the south. The south has the better players and more passion for the sport. The Big 10 now only has a chance since college football is becoming NFL jr.

[@youdontknow7190]

9:45 god that just sounds so cringe it really does.

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

Hey boy, high school recruiting is only good for development. Once development programs like Michigan can buy them away from the SEC.

[@jofi4580]

NIL is the great equalizer. Like it or not.

[@Blue-vq7vm]

High school recruiting is gone for ever.....................................Let someone else do it then see how they do and then buy them..........

[@gavinseimer5736]

Its like army vs marines, to the SEC, football just means more. And in the south it always will. The south is football country, period.

[@josephtierney6090]

As it should be. Bout time thats all I have to say.

[@bucfan28]

So the SEC is done bc the SEC rosters are more talented top to bottom and they beat up on each other and occasionally lose to the top end teams in the Big 10? Just trying to follow the logic. So we thought the SEC was the best bc they beat up on each other while 1-2 teams still dominated those same top teams from other conferences? I’m not sure I buy the argument after a one year sample size. I will say one thing….The NIL could go 1-2 ways. Either billionaires like Larry Ellison give Michigan a 50M annual budget and only 4-5 teams match it, equating to loaded rosters spread around a very small handful of schools…OR…..Many schools step up and pay players.. And it’s not roster spots 1-15 where this matters….It’s 16-50, where by the time the playoffs roll around, your 2-3rd stringer is a 4-5 Star future NFL player… It’s too early to tell which path carries the day.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

Since the 90s. 😂. Um Nebraska, Michigan, Penn st., USC, Ohio State have all won National Championships. Are u guys stupid. 😂😂😂😂. That’s 5.

[@taiga7276]

Sec Stan detected 7:05

[@ericdraven7857]

NCAA doesn’t want a team like AL or UGA to dominate again.

[@youdontknow7190]

You mean that shell of an organization I guess you’re talking about the TV network I actually don’t know who you’re even talking about if I’m being honest

[@jimmyjam5453]

UGA don't count... they are already gone.

[@RSeaker]

They can still compete. It's just tougher.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

No one has more money than the B1G schools. Their alumni is full of rich professionals. The academics of Michigan, Penn St, Ohio State etc are far beyond the schools of the south. Notre Dame, USC. These schools have alumni bases that make schools like Alabama and Georgia literally look like poverty. Now that it’s legal for these alumni bases to pay players it’s not even close. So basically what I’m saying is it pays to stay in school.

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

In other words, "we had to professionalize college football so that the big 10 could have a chance."

[@Justin-pq3rq]

@ 😆. Just had to make paying players legal. Don’t act like everyone in the world doesn’t know about the SEC cheating to high heavens paying players for the last 50 years 😆

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

@@Justin-pq3rq they werent the only ones

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

Penn State and Ohio State are just average in academics. Florida is now in the top 5 academically with Michigan and Virginia. This is not 1950 any more.

[@Justin-pq3rq]

@ my point is the B1G schools have far more money than the southern schools. It’s not even close.

[@mbanderson83]

Bud is drunk brining up recruiting and development. Development is basically gone at this point.

[@JohnVega-e3u]

Are you joking.. Indiana goes 6-6 in the SEC. stop

[@richardsansbury7453]

No more depth in college football 🏈

[@Willclapton]

I bet the sec wins the most national championships out of the next 10 years then everyone put together

[@evanschaffhauser9987]

I'd happily bet the opposite 😂

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

Sadly they won’t because the big10 has a lot more money and will be buying the players down south.

[@EB-bl6cc]

idk about more than the others combined lol but i don't think it's a huge stretch to say they'll win the most. People are *hugely* overreacting to a slightly down year at the top of the SEC, but as a whole it is still the strongest conference, even this year, from top to bottom. The top 3 of the Big 10 is stronger than the top 3 of the SEC this year, you'll get no arguments there from me, but the bottom 3/4 of the SEC is significantly stronger than the bottom 3/4 of the Big 10 (or any other conference). Even the cellar dwellers are fairly capable teams that on a good day can give you a fight. The easiest way to counter the "SEC is done" argument is to think about it logically and get emotion out of the argument. Does SEC still recruit really well, get tons of guys via the transfer portal, and have mostly good coaches? Yes, yes, and yes. These are essentially the only things that matter when it comes to winning in college football, so if you are checking these boxes then the results will come. You will have your ebbs and flows but over time the results will absolutely come.

[@jimmyjam5453]

Nope.. Nick Saban ain't coming back.its over.

[@RSeaker]

Big10 owns the top media markets, and its schools/alums/donors have money.

[@michaelf.bender3718]

Welcome to college football parity.

[@user-qj9tj5kv9f]

How is it parity when the same teams that were dominate 20 years ago are the same teams that are dominate now.

[@Plants28]

As a big10 ohio state fan i dont care about bama fans Georgia fans and Lsu fans holding onto that 2019 season like texas does that 2005 season because those are special. Its the other lil homies that piss us off😂 like mizzu kentucky vandy Tennessee ole miss texas A&M Florida etc...that have been DORMANT for a minute and had like 2 or 3 good seasons. And they say how other conferences cant beat them. When they cant even beat Georgia or bama 😂 when other sec teams lose they just ride the bandwagon and want to claim a prise since theyll never get one 😂 thats the sec fans we hate. The ones that are cheeks that are talking smack when they get their cheeks ran through by the big boys.

[@terminatorx6230]

The $EC will win natty’s here and there but it won’t have a run like it has for the past 20yrs. NIL has allowed schools to do without penalty what the $EC did brazenly, BRIBE PLAYERS. Not only that what is slowly being revealed is outside of Texas, TAMU, and Alabama (for now), the donor class in the $EC doesn’t have money like schools from the B1G Ten whose donors have cavernously deep pockets. For years B1G schools and Notre Dame wouldn’t hand over wads of cash like $EC schools because they were “too virtuous” NIL has taken care of that and God forbid Andrew Luck’s able to activate those tech billionaires from Stanford as a collective then stick a fork in the $EC.

[@davidfloyd9134]

BYU & ISU should have made the playoff.

[@tarheel7406]

Nope... Late seasons loses in a Tier 2 conference.

[@JoeSmith-ey2xp]

Big 10 has more money to buy talent by far.

[@boschlosser10]

100%

[@Blue-vq7vm]

Every team has Money that wants to win......The SEC is going to be no better than any other conference in a few years......They are just going to have tougher games on average.......

[@tarheel7406]

The SEC has been the best over the past ~25 years but hasn't been the best over the past 2. Being the best doesn't require being the best every year. The addition of the PAC 4-bloc is a booster shot, but economic, cultural, and demo changes will bring the B1G down from its current highwater mark.

[@sethcarter4910]

Auburn may not make the playoffs this year, but we will be "back" this year. I think everyone will see that while they are not championship level yet, but they are back to the scrappy teams that every one of you knows throughout the years. The kind that every few years they can make a run at it (2013-2019 levels of Auburn) and to my auburn fellows, if that sounds bad to you keep in mind in those seven years we won an sec chip, runner up in 17, and a national championship runner up first year, with no losing seasons. ZERO. ALL BEFORE THE EXTENDED PLAYOFF. Runs are coming OTV!!!! WDE!!!! Keep an eye out for that TAMU Game early in the season on the road and hear the echoes of Rod Bramblett in 2013 under identical circumstances beating Johnny football that year, saying "Auburn serves notice to the college football world that THEY. ARE. BACK!!!!!!" Every Program eventually bounces back. War Eagle!

[@jamesnelson9664]

Well they domantiad for 20 years the sec has been paying players that long its easy to get the best players to your conference when ur paying players and the ncaa lets you do it yea ur going to dominate now the rest of the country can pay players now the last 2 years for the sec hasnt been that good so that just shows you that they have cheated for years and was getting away with it so yea i dont think them championship should count

[@bobwilliams5506]

Blaine is right.

[@KingSethMorton]

Why are you guys yelling?

[@Smoothoperator65]

No it's not a great thing! The nil and transfer portal along with NFL rules have killed what was once a great sport to watch! It's no longer fun to watch ,it's just like the NFL garbage ,it's all about money!

[@knothyselfknotruth]

What was the SEC before ESPN bought that Conf in 06-07!? Prior to that flagrant (conflict of interest) merger the SEC was NOT relevant. After the deal ESECPN began manipulating the sport in favor of the SEC. ALWAYS follow the 💸

[@boschlosser10]

100%

[@yearofthedawgs8581]

Did ESPN manipulate the fact that 90% of high school football talent comes from the south east?

[@kingjim238524]

​@@yearofthedawgs8581they sure do manipulate rankings when people decommit from SEC schools. I seen so many players go down in stars when decommitting from sec but go up in stars when flipping to the SEC.

[@huntersmith4079]

SEC is trash

[@Willclapton]

What loser of school do you like?

[@BigGeorgiaBoi]

Your conference is trash how about that

[@EB-bl6cc]

"SEC is trash" emotional argument based on 1 slightly down year at the top. People are such slaves to the moment

[@brianmiller1977]

Football Only Super Conference 48 teams Enact a draft just like they do in the nfl. If HS players want to play in this super league, they have to agree to play for whichever program drafts them for at least 3 years(with 1-2 exceptions. Like a sick parent that requires them to live closer to home or something similar), then after 3 years they can transfer wherever they want. Players get 1 transfer allotment, with exception to coaching change. Enact a Salary cap just like nfl. This would maximize parity, which keeps more fanbases interested, engaged, & ie MONETIZED... Bama, UGA, Tenn, LSU, Ole Miss, UF, Texas, OU, TAMU, Mizzou, Auburn, SC, Kentucky, Ark OSU, Michigan, PSU, Wash, USC, Ore, Wisc, Neb, Iowa, Indiana, Minn, MState, Illinois Clemson, FSU, ND, Miami, LVille, VTech, UNC, NCState, GTech, SMU Utah, WVU, OkieSt, TCU, BYU, KState, Colorado, Texas Tech, Kansas, IowaSt, AState The more parity, the more diverse the engagement & engagement = revenues. If they deployed this model, revenues would be 2-3 times what they are now. Then make a separate super league for basketball. So programs with a good football & basketball program would see massive increases in revenues. Compared to a team like UGA which is football only really. This way you are maximizing both quality, fairness, & parity. This would be the optimal model to pursue, while some "bluebloods" would not like it because it would level the field, ultimately this is what would generate the most revenues.

[@TheRaginCajun6]

The SEC will evolve. The boosters will give them more money to do better but even so look at these "good" teams that lost. All of the top seeds. Oregon went undefeated but got spanked in the playoffs. Boise State looked good as well. LSU dominating the transfer portal.

[@boschlosser10]

Boise did not look good what

[@TheRaginCajun6]

@boschlosser10 did you even read my comment before you let shit out of your mouth?

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

So Penn States best win was Illinois, Indiana only played one ranked team and lost, and they finished 2nd and 3rd in the B1G? No, the SEC isn’t crashing out. They are the deepest with the most parity. They won’t have a bunch of soft easy B1G schedules because they are over bloated with 18 teams and only 2 that realistically can win a natty. The SEC has 5-6 that could realistically win the natty with the talent they have, unfortunately they have to play eachother. Also did we forget that Georgia’s QB against ND was a backup making his first start??

[@boschlosser10]

No they don’t the SEC went 1-4 vs B1G schools in bowls and if Cade didn’t go into portal and played vs Mizzou it’s a clean sweep the best B1G vs the best SEC right now it’s the B1G easily better education richer alumni..

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

@@boschlosser10no, the only bowl games the matter are the CFP ones. You have too many players sitting out now to pretend like the sausage bowl matters. Don’t be that guy that blindly defend the B1G. The B1G is Oregon and Ohio State, then a massive drop off. When the teams that finished 2 and 3 in the conference had a combined 1 ranked win during the season out of a grand total of 3 ranked games, you can’t talk about how deep the B1G is. Heck, did Indiana (finished 3rd) even play a team that was above 500 this season??? Tell us again how deep the B1G is….

[@MichiganderCommander]

SEC dominating recruiting this year is carry over. Simple as that. Warm weather and scantily clad girls drive most recruits' decisions. SEC was also lucky to have both Saban and Smart. Two of the best coaches college football has ever seen. That's over. The money is in the Big10. Academic superiority is in the Big10. A degree from Alabama is not the same as a degree from Michigan. There's an ebb and flow to everything

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

The University of Florida is now in the top five academically per US News and World Report ranking. People have been moving to the south for decades; this is not the 1950's any more, sorry.

[@tarheel7406]

Demography is still destiny. The B1G has reached its highwater mark.

[@BamaGata10]

NIL. Transfer portal. My favorite, conference realignment. I may be old schooled on this but the SEC should have never expanded. Even with A&M and Mizzou. Pac12 should still be alive and well. The ACC shouldnt have west coast or teams from Texas. Regionality is made cfb so special to begin with. The slogan "It Means More" meant more in the past because the pride of the conference relied heavily on quality of teams and the tradition of those 12. Now its just full of decent to good teams and they'll just beat each other up, essentially a conference eating itself.