Crappy Batman: A Cartoonist's 1st Submission Pages

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

Ed's Patreon: www.patreon.com/edpiskor Jim's Patreon: www.patreon.com/jimrugg

[@scottroth602]

Man , I always feel like I’m watching a past reel of my early years when I watch these sort of videos. I had a similar experience with Vincent Locke and Guy Davis. I was a super fanboy of theirs and they were super kind and supportive. I even corresponded with Vince for a while. Somewhere I lost my way and have basically peddled all these years drawing and doing small underground stuff. I just got my 30th year plaque for my delivery company I work for but I wonder what would a cutter how do I kept up in a real wayWith pursuing comic books. I’m currently starting over and working on a fresh portfolio. Thanks for the videos

[@russworks2882]

Saw a video of Joe Kubert at some convention and the interviewer asked him about older artists wanting to get into comics. Kubert said "It's never too late." The guy asked him to explain and he said "It's never too late because it's never too late. It's only too late if you decide it's too late."

[@TheDoorspook11c]

Me too, Mike Golden fan...middle school teacher. Lost my way, starting over new portfolio, better stories and the same dream.

[@hugoacevedo4812]

Don't give up man! I work as a printer seller and even though I'm advancing slow I can clearly see progress. You must be the same constantly getting better! Nowadays you can just put it on the internet, no editors, no rejects just your creations for everyone to admire. Make an Instagram, a friend of mine pushed me really hard to do one. I really felt that my art was quite bad. While I only have like 20 followers most of them are fellow artists which really makes me feel proud. You can do it!

[@scottroth602]

Thanks guys. All this is great and supportive which we all need. Through the course of about 20 years I probably have enough new pages for almost 4/5 comic books. I try to draw when I can but the biggest thing that had helped before COVID-19 was a co-op group of cartoonists/ publishers called Ink and Drink. I’ve done 3 short stories for them that are in print, so absolutely I haven’t stopped. Good luck to you all as well and thanks again. Kayfab Rules!!!

[@vandals4873]

These vids are pretty inspirational, for real. I started drawing my script that's been sitting on a shelf for 15 years.

[@apexcomix3200]

Great video. I remember submitting pages and given advice from Rick Hoberg and Paul Ryan. Joe Kubert had a great compliment on my Executor #1 book. I was learning and improving like you guys. Thanks for bringing your pages out, Jim.

[@razrentals8897]

I can definitely see Breyfogle in your Batman. He’s probably my favorite Batman artist.

[@geraldstephens6612]

All artists starts off like this early in their careers; look at early Bob Kane, Jack Kirby, etc. Keep at it.

[@bertmickassokimura5737]

These are great. One of the reasons I love finding artist's old work in back issue bins. To see how much they've evolved. Thanks for sharing!

[@amirmalekpour4316]

Thank you for sharing this and being generous. It’s wonderful to see artists pay it forward in teaching and helping others.

[@MattHall]

That second page looks like it could be a Black Flag record cover

[@gabrieljimenez9762]

Would definitely love to see Jim's Crow picture. Awesome video, great to see the "humble" beginnings of a cartoonist and hearing about the impact a mentor can have. You guys are definitely paying back with all your insight on this channel. Keep up the great work.

[@MrBynard]

Everyday, I wake up, start working on my comic, and watch kayfabe!

[@jimmybroxton1894]

Fascinating stuff, and huge potential on display, not crappy at all! Coincidentally, my first ever submission pages were also created in 1993, also featured Batman and were brazenly mailed into DC Submissions......keep up the great work!!!

[@lewpal]

I LOVE seeing an artists early work. You guys are the best

[@mrtang18]

Thanks for sharing Jim! What are your thoughts on having Kayfabers send in comic samples for you to critique? Would love to see what the community's doing, and at the same time learn from the feedback.

[@thomasleon9550]

This stuff is so cool to see. Totally see this fitting into the stylistic mindset of someone reading stuff in that post-DKR, pre-Knightfall era. Definitely looks like some Silverwolf artist doing their best 90's Breyfogle impression. I feel like so many kids' first pages looked something like this (myself included), but so many were probably discouraged by the rejections and critiques. So glad you were a smart enough kid to realize that you only had room to improve, Jim, cause if you didn't, we wouldn't have your badass comics today! Super cool video, dudes.

[@TheGradysDad]

Hilarious exchange at 11:15

[@freshjellomusic5097]

Thanks for sharing this. I appreciate the joy, humor and passion you bring to this channel.

[@MrSamfonseca]

I laughed out loud with Ed's remarks in this one, haha. Thank you to bring those up, Jim!

[@nabeelrooshan6989]

I would really dig a french curve tutorial!

[@VikDue]

I would love to have that script to practice with

[@mattprather3140]

Thanks for sharing. You guys are awesome.

[@timothymarkin3421]

I really remember Ernie Stiner doing cartoons in the old CBG circa 1988-89, then saw his name in SHIELD in the early 90s. I did enjoy his CBG cartoons.

[@therupoe]

This was awesome! Thanks, Jim! Ed’s turn!!!

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

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[@usurper001]

Page 2 is total Pettibon! Great episode.

[@mangalloyd6778]

We all put those Spawn shoulders on Batman in the 90s

[@hcanderson3787]

Great pages, Jim!

[@miguelthedrawtist]

Just goes to show how important good mentorship is

[@fad23]

Such an important lesson!

[@ryanm573]

I kinda like Robin chilling like he’s a bored kid

[@russworks2882]

What a great personal story. You point out all of the mistakes, but if these are your first comics pages, there is much that is right, like the power and confidence of the ink line and the early awareness of composition. So, what was your second submission?

[@deathlocker142]

Jim dropping thay Nas lyric

[@andyburk8771]

I call it UNERASEABLE paper!

[@Able-Fader]

love it!

[@euansmith3699]

Ernie Steiner sounds like a top bloke.

[@cluepac]

I had that same lined paper and was about to comment how shitty it was...

[@comicfan92]

I can't find the quiet death script on Google. Is there a good place to find it? Or can u pin a pdf to the comments?

[@fruitbat36]

Dude - for first pages these are not terrible. I mean there are the issues you point out - but the story telling is pretty spot on.

[@kyberblitz]

I was going to make a horrific comic book but decide to quit cuz i know it's impossible for me to do it all by myself.

[@mistamiller]

reminds me of tim sale's work tbh

[@johna4371]

In the late 80s and early 90s I casually knew a professional comic artist. I didn't think of art as a viable career for me, and so I didn't pick his brain much at all (though I did get to see him work a few times). What a waste. I'm sure he would've been extremely encouraging.

[@Misterioso]

Keep the title on the top of the cover or people will walk right by it in the shops.

[@__tof____3304]

Man that robin is damn cool!!!

[@TheDoorspook11c]

Damn, yall made me feel funny for my SilverWolf Comics. But idgaf SilverWolf was cool!

[@hotelnapkin]

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