Crash: Uber Driver Hits Cyclist - MX13OAS

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CyclingMikey

CyclingMikey

3 жыл бұрын

This sort of thing is correctly referred to as a crash, not an accident. Here's why: www.roadpeace.org/take-action...
Had there not been a collision, the TORS (traffic offence reports) team I report most of my videos to would almost certainly have prosecuted the PHV (private hire vehicle) for that left hook. It's my impression that the collisions team (if I have that right) will usually not prosecute drivers for such driving even if there is evidence. I'm sure this is not a good Vision Zero approach.
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@jake3870
@jake3870 3 жыл бұрын
I love what you do but why err you travelling in the middle of the road. That would have made some people upset and I feel maybe you go looking for problems when they are not there. Stopping people from driving on phone and wrong side I think is great
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager 3 жыл бұрын
In a 20 zone? How slow do you think bicycles go? 🙄
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey 3 жыл бұрын
That's good cycling, Jake. If it upsets anyone, that would only because they are a bad driver and far too impatient. Did you not notice the graphics from the police Think! campaign? I have cycle instructor training, and am an experienced driver and motorcyclist. Plus the speed limit here is 20mph and we were riding at a good 20mph. You couldn't legally overtake even if it was safe and you wanted to.
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey 3 жыл бұрын
@@FFVoyager Indeed. Plus, even if I'm not riding at the speed limit, good riding still dictates that I take the lane on a narrow road and ride out of the door zone. It's a pity that some drivers think like Jake here, because they are completely wrong, impatient, and ignorant.
@eastlancsdashcam5994
@eastlancsdashcam5994 3 жыл бұрын
It is mentioned in the video and also on screen at 00:16.
@jake3870
@jake3870 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyclingMikey oh I completely agree and understand the point, as I said I am pro you but I feel that could spark problems but on a 20moh road I don’t see a problem with it and was unaware of that. Keep safe.
@Africa1000
@Africa1000 3 жыл бұрын
The car driver should have checked his mirrors but still, the cyclist was extremely unwise for riding on the inside like that!
@alvaroretortilloareces9266
@alvaroretortilloareces9266 3 жыл бұрын
You are not wrong on saying it is not wise to cycle on the inside, however I think it is victim blaming. I always try to cycle on primary position, in the middle of lane, but you can legally filter through which is what the cyclist was doing. On the other hand driver must check, indicate, check and then turn. Which did not happen.
@JRYDER13
@JRYDER13 3 жыл бұрын
That is true, the cyclist doesnt have to be that close to the car but the driver gave nearly no warning that he was about to turn 😡😡 terrible driving, that is Uber drivers for you 😂😂😂
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 3 жыл бұрын
I think that’s why no prosecution tbh
@mikemcgurk1447
@mikemcgurk1447 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist was riding in the driver's blind stop and would not have been seen in the mirrors.
@uphillfreewheeler
@uphillfreewheeler 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulcollyer801 But the cyclist did not commit an offence and the driver caused the collision so there is no excuse for the failure of the police to take action.
@ryanm5801
@ryanm5801 3 жыл бұрын
You could tell when the driver joined the road he wasn’t a particularly good driver. You need to either get in front or sit behind people like that. Why sit next to him? Poor instincts from the cyclists in my opinion. Could have avoided it.
@motiveintentionsincerity
@motiveintentionsincerity 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, using the highway requires reading the traffic, and behaviour of traffic
@nickbea3443
@nickbea3443 3 жыл бұрын
According to the cyclist, the driver was erratic - as if he was looking at his Sat Nav rather than focussed on this surroundings.
@ryanm5801
@ryanm5801 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickbea3443 all the more reason for the cyclist to be nowhere near the car! I’ve had situations like this. I just didn’t trust the driver so i made a decision to sit back/ get ahead.
@Supraboyes
@Supraboyes 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickbea3443 just shows how more stupid the cyclist was
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment there Ryan. Many comments in videos like this seem to victim blame the cyclist, but your comment was spot on.
@JonCookeBridge
@JonCookeBridge 3 жыл бұрын
Come on, cycling in the blind spot/down the inside of a car indicating left is plain suicidal.
@driewiel
@driewiel 3 жыл бұрын
Car wasn't indicating until the last moment impossible for the cyclist to see. But maybe you have a helicopter button on your handlebars so cars can't cut you off?
@jordan4541
@jordan4541 3 жыл бұрын
@@driewiel Even if he indicated sooner. The cyclist was too close to see the indicator and would've ended up undertaking
@KleineJoop
@KleineJoop 3 жыл бұрын
@@driewiel Hahaha kijk nou drie wiel. Lopen haten op velomobielrijders (de sportieve pinnacle/verste evolutie qua fietsen) in NL en dan hier wel de linkse Nederlander moeten zijn omdat die autogeile Engelsen nog veel rechtser zijn dankzij hun historie aan rechtse toxische politiek, en daardoor gebrek aan (fiets)infrastructuur, fietsvaardigheid, cultuur, etc Ik heb je een plusje gegeven.
@JonCookeBridge
@JonCookeBridge 3 жыл бұрын
drie wiel Be as sarcastic as you like. I would never be there on the road. I accept that there is a possibility I get taken out by a car, but it won’t be like that. The car was going suspiciously slowly: I’d be covering my brake and riding behind it further out in the lane, slowing down. If our goal is less accidents, it’s certainly worthwhile letting new riders know where to ride. Undertaking vehicles is very dangerous, as is riding in their blind spot when they might be, judging by their speed and position, about to turn left.
@nobbynomad2010
@nobbynomad2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@driewiel if the cyclist hadn't tried to foolishly undertake the car and just held back a metre or two he would have been able to see the indicator and take evasive action. Car driver not the best but cyclist has no idea of spacial awareness.
@seattlebikecammer3347
@seattlebikecammer3347 3 жыл бұрын
wow, is it that cyclists first day riding or his last? It's like he's never ridden with drivers around before, always in the door zone, WAY too close to moving cars, he won't last long
@DarkDanjamin
@DarkDanjamin 3 жыл бұрын
So, you're ignoring the very late signal, and no mirror check?
@seattlebikecammer3347
@seattlebikecammer3347 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkDanjamin no, I'm angry that it takes such work just to be safe from drivers, as well
@Supraboyes
@Supraboyes 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkDanjamin that's why you should hold back whilst riding, just for that reason 🙄
@KleineJoop
@KleineJoop 3 жыл бұрын
Driver didn't check his blind spot, turning immediately after indicating, which he did way too late too, perhaps he was watching and moving by navigation. But if you fail to see a cyclist next to your car here in the Netherlands during you driving exam you're failed. You have to check the blindspot, when riding in cars, in trucks, on bikes even, always. I do it because if value my life lol
@tomikuusla925
@tomikuusla925 3 жыл бұрын
”DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road”
@GBOB68
@GBOB68 3 жыл бұрын
The cyclists wasn't overtaking, he was undertaking which is extremely stupid! He was very lucky.
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 3 жыл бұрын
Never go up inside a car where there is a left turn ahead. Even for an attentive motorist the mirror does not necessarily show the blind spot in the nearside rear quarter. Having been a motorcyclist for some years in my youth you have to ride defensively and see the potential threats before they develop. Don't assume anybody has seen you.
@martynanstis1620
@martynanstis1620 3 жыл бұрын
Yup and if the cyclist had been paying attention he would have seen the car indicating left.
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 3 жыл бұрын
@@martynanstis1620 In an ideal world yes, but its far more common to get no indication or very late indication and you learn to be wary of any indication at all until it is followed through. If the cyclist was looking ahead as you'd expect, then the indication is not that difficult to miss. We get the following view which is far easier to see and interpret, and which demonstrates the value of hanging back and being cautious.
@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa
@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa 3 жыл бұрын
@@martynanstis1620 Had he been paying attention? Had he cat like reflexes more like. The car indicated for half a second if that.
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 3 жыл бұрын
@@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa It happens all the time, and the cyclist should have anticipated it. If he is expecting the waves to part for his unimpeded passage he is in for a shock.....oh hang on a mo🤔
@chrisdevine4848
@chrisdevine4848 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on - "Ride as if you're invisible!"
@stuart4143
@stuart4143 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the cyclist could have held back just 1 second and avoided this.
@dannyjodie4736
@dannyjodie4736 5 ай бұрын
True however he didn’t know the car was turning because the driver indicated wile he was turning not before ?!
@Dashdecent
@Dashdecent 3 жыл бұрын
Indication or no indication the cyclist should not be undertaking a car at a junction. So may reasons why I wouldn't have done it. That's not filtering.
@Ste6ve1
@Ste6ve1 3 жыл бұрын
spot on, filtering is only allowed with stationary vehicles, not moving. What happened to the car door length away when passing also, so there really was no room.
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree - undertaking, whether in a car, on a bike whatever is just daft. The Uber did seem to try to close the door on the straight, which was also very wrong, but maybe that should have been when the cyclist went for an overtake instead
@jasskurn2173
@jasskurn2173 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ste6ve1 Vehicle does not have to be stationary. I believe 'case law' decided filtering had to be past stationary or crawling traffic, and filtering itself had to be at a speed not greater than 15mph. Not much difference between stationary and crawling though. You can filter at a junction, that's definitely decided within case law.
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ste6ve1 *"filtering is only allowed with stationary vehicles, not moving."* That is not so. "Filtering is moving up the inside or outside of slow moving or stationary queuing traffic" (quoted from Bikeability course program.) But you always have to take extra care when filtering in traffic, and always look out for turning vehicles, doors that might open right in front of you etc. It is also legal to filter at the left side, even at a junction, but one has to be even more careful when doing so, and it is advised to never do so if the vehicle is a long vehicle such as a bus or lorry.
@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa
@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ste6ve1 "filtering is only allowed with stationary vehicles, not moving" moron lol
@kissofjudaz
@kissofjudaz 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't have been overtaking approaching a junction, fully agree that no prosecution was taken.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure the police are reassured by your support, Xavier.
@brianserious
@brianserious 2 жыл бұрын
you are right its best in vehicles especially a truck to close the inside off completely sometimes little bikes and scooterss shoot up out of nowhere.
@carolkiteley1865
@carolkiteley1865 3 жыл бұрын
The cyclist should have also been more careful.
@motiveintentionsincerity
@motiveintentionsincerity 3 жыл бұрын
and also the driver of the vehicle. Both responsible.
@kevainscough4934
@kevainscough4934 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the cyclist should be undertaking. There used to be a schoolboy/girl course called cycling proficiency
@GMBasix
@GMBasix 3 жыл бұрын
The programme for cycle training comes under the National Training Standard for Cycle Training, and usually known as Bikeability.
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad taught me to ride, & I passed easily, lost the little badge thing 6 months later, the rivet failed & I was gutted
@southwirralcyclist1986
@southwirralcyclist1986 3 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between undertaking and filtering.
@osogrande4999
@osogrande4999 3 жыл бұрын
@@southwirralcyclist1986 “Filtering” is not done at an approaching left turn where the car in front is both braking and indicating. The cyclist is the danger here not the driver. And an idiot to boot.
@ollie3x10_8
@ollie3x10_8 3 жыл бұрын
@@osogrande4999 the car was not indicating until the cyclist was already overlapping. The driver maneuvered, then signalled, and never checked his mirrors. This is bad driving.
@davidknowler4719
@davidknowler4719 2 жыл бұрын
I am a life long cyclist , I would never have ridden like this guy did . Sadly I would say that this incident was , mainly , of his own making .
@timothydraper6626
@timothydraper6626 9 ай бұрын
It's definitely not the safest way for him to cycle.
@Effenel
@Effenel 3 жыл бұрын
He went on the inside of the car AFTER it was indicating. Cyclist fully at fault here.
@herbie747
@herbie747 2 жыл бұрын
Fully? So you're saying drivers shouldn't have to check their mirrors before turning?
@Miku-uw2sl
@Miku-uw2sl 21 күн бұрын
Whether or not it is indicating has no bearing - drivers must give way to cyclists in these situations
@gurkin1234
@gurkin1234 3 жыл бұрын
This was entirely preventable with better defensive cycling...
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
and better driving.
@benconnelly5246
@benconnelly5246 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe true but he shouldn't have too the driver should know how to drive properly especially since he does it for a living and definitely main one at fault.
@metamorphosis9793
@metamorphosis9793 3 жыл бұрын
@@UglyRugby What did the driver do wrong apart from pull out from the junction a bit too fast?!
@Rayraysplums
@Rayraysplums 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't undertake it's called OVERtake for a reason
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
@@metamorphosis9793 1.He indicated as he turned. A careful driver would have indicated in good time, giving other road users a chance to see and react to the indicator (which is the whole point about the use of indicators.) 2. He failed to use his mirrors and check his blind spots. Exactly what the Highway Code tells in Rule 182 and Rule 211: Rule 182 Use your mirrors and give a left-turn signal well before you turn left. Do not overtake just before you turn left and watch out for traffic coming up on your left before you make the turn, especially if driving a large vehicle. Cyclists, motorcyclists and other road users in particular may be hidden from your view. Rule 211 It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully.
@grahamjones6712
@grahamjones6712 3 жыл бұрын
And thats why u dont cycle in the gutter at a hazard like a junction
@martyhopkirk9646
@martyhopkirk9646 2 жыл бұрын
Rule 72 Highway code Rules for Cyclists On the left. When approaching a junction on the left, watch out for vehicles turning in front of you, out of or into the side road. Just before you turn, check for undertaking cyclists or motorcyclists. Do not ride on the inside of vehicles signalling or slowing down to turn left. Taxi driver driving like, well, a typical bloody taxi driver to be fair with little consideration for anyone else on the road. But the cyclists position was utter shite and all for gaining a few seconds.
@RichyNo1
@RichyNo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@martyhopkirk9646 yes Marty, exactly, I'm so sick of seeing victim blaming of the cyclist. It shouldn't be necessary for all cyclists to ride so cynically around cars. A lot of us do but it shouldn't be a pre-requisite as a road user. If we recall the whole 'mirror signal manoeuvre' phrase you learn when you start driving, the guy behind the wheel neither checks his mirror (there is no 'blind spot' the cyclist is in despite what people are claiming) nor leaves his indicator on for a legitimate amount of time which would constitute notice for other road users. The cyclist is simply riding at a reasonable pace on a legal part of the road they have chosen to.
@redsonja1793
@redsonja1793 3 жыл бұрын
Have to say, I’d never undertake, or what is called filtering in UK, a car when cycling. ‘I was in the right’ does not help me when it’s written on my gravestone
@lindongreen8922
@lindongreen8922 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, I would prefer something more profound like......is that it? Fuuuuuuuck!....that'll do me
@jamesgraham7297
@jamesgraham7297 2 жыл бұрын
As a car driver, I completely support you Sonja - I check my left mirror carefully before turning left (especially after being stopped at traffic lights), but anything you can do to help avoid an accident is much appreciated, everyone is responsible for safety. I had to do an emergency stop last month, as a cyclist went straight on on the left, as I was about to turn left - luckily no crash, but it got my heart rate going. I'm not blaming the cyclist, there's an awful lot going on at busy road junctions and its' very easy to miss something - maybe next month the boot will be on the other foot.
@raycorey
@raycorey 3 жыл бұрын
I always ride centrally when I have to. Because if you don’t then vehicle drivers we squeeze by you even when there are cars parked on the left hand side.
@driewiel
@driewiel 3 жыл бұрын
Same for you. All Dutch cyclists ride on the inside. You really don't think grandmas and children can ride in the middle of the lane pedaling like Olympic champions do you?
@motiveintentionsincerity
@motiveintentionsincerity 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry that cyclist was undertaking, I would award this video that both parties were at fault. Road awareness is a two way thing.
@driewiel
@driewiel 3 жыл бұрын
You mean children and grandmas and cargo bikes have to pedal the speed of cars in the middle of the road?
@Throki
@Throki 3 жыл бұрын
@@driewiel Nah. Car's have to drive the speed of grandmas and children, when they're cycling right where they belong - in the middle of the lane. :)
@lordmcfuzz
@lordmcfuzz 3 жыл бұрын
Undertaking on a bike is totally legal. Not properly indicating that you are turning well before the turn and then not checking your mirrors before turning causing a crash is not legal.
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
Motive Intention Sincerity: Please use the correct term "filtering". The term "undertaking" implies something that is illegal.
@mattjones6115
@mattjones6115 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordmcfuzz legal or not, it's a sure way to get into trouble. Self-defence first.
@yvonnescholey8972
@yvonnescholey8972 3 жыл бұрын
I think the cyclist was his own worst enemy, surely he saw the car braking as he (the cyclist) was behind the moving vehicle, then as the vehicle indicated the cyclist rode up the inside. Crazy
@jimdixon3131
@jimdixon3131 3 жыл бұрын
The cyclist was keeping up with the speed of traffic. Why did he not stop behind the car. Why did he feel the need to pass the car on the left? If the car stops or goes slower than the cyclist why not just pass on the right. HGV now have signs warning cyclist not to pass on the nearside.
@Padderrss
@Padderrss 3 жыл бұрын
How do you just rush to immediately place all blame on that driver? The cyclist was cycling on the inside of him in a blind spot. Ridiculous to say that was the fault of the driver
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree. Yes, driver should have checked motors and it was a non existent pre-indicate, just the usual manner of moving the stalk while turning the wheel but throughout the entire sequence, the cyclist placed themselves in the vehicle blindspot and then proceeded into an inside place. Being technically right but dead isn't a great strategy for the long game.
@GMBasix
@GMBasix 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t place all the blame on the driver, he had comments fir the cyclist too, and gently educated him at the time. But the driver was at fault. He failed to check if it was safe to do 2 manoeuvres: braking and turning. It wasn’t but he did anyway.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
What are you on about? The "blind spot" is only a blind spot for the driver, he should be aware of that and ensure he makes a safe turn, he wasn't aware and he therefore collided with the cyclist. 100% the fault of the driver.
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 3 жыл бұрын
If you listen, Mikey Does mention the cyclist’s poor riding politely in the video. The perception is that the UBER (or a taxi) driver is a professional. The reality is that they are not. Driving licence wise, all that’s needed is CatB. I think that, while the UBER Should have driven & observed far better, the cyclists actions taken into account is why there was no prosecution. I personally agree with that.
@jameshogan8168
@jameshogan8168 3 жыл бұрын
It really frustrates me when people say "he was in the blind spot". The driver had pulled out in front of him 15 seconds before the left turn - did he think the cyclist had suddenly vanished into the ether? Drivers (and especially "professional" drivers) need to have more awareness. It also looks like he has a blind spot section on the left wing mirror, so there's no excuse for not spotting him (and even if he didn't, you're meant to check your blind spot before making a turn). It also helps if you don't indicate about half a second before turning. manoeuvring
@skodadriver5533
@skodadriver5533 3 жыл бұрын
A cyclist must look out for themselves he did get close I'd rather have a driver like that in front of me
@TheMrWoodsman
@TheMrWoodsman 3 жыл бұрын
Late indication and the cyclist not reading the road correctly.
@gilmacarico
@gilmacarico 2 жыл бұрын
That's what happened, sharp and short. 959 comments too many, plus this reply.
@Skyeskimmer
@Skyeskimmer 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say that the cyclist is at fault here as the car was always ahead of him and however people think of how late he was signalling the cyclist should never go up his inside especially at a junction,always anticipate and think ahead.. Police correct in not prosecuting him as he has done nothing wrong except signal a little late..
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
*"Police correct in not prosecuting him as he has done nothing wrong except signal a little late.."* No, the driver was more at fault than just the worthless use of the indicators. Road users that intend to turn or change lanes are required by the HC to look out for filtering cyclists as stated in rules such as Rule 182 and Rule 211. *Beware a left turn* Turning left is how most accidents occur. A cyclist may appear - perfectly legally - beside you while you’re waiting impatiently at a red light. It’s not at all illegal for cyclists to filter on the left or right of lanes but it is often difficult to spot them, especially when hidden by your blind spot. As you make a left, and as the cyclist intends to carry straight on, a collision may occur. Also be vigilant when pulling out of a side street, or car park. archive.derbyshire.police.uk/Safety-advice/Road-Safety-Vehicle-Security/Cyclists.aspx Rule 182 Use your mirrors and give a left-turn signal well before you turn left. Do not overtake just before you turn left and watch out for traffic coming up on your left before you make the turn, especially if driving a large vehicle. Cyclists, motorcyclists and other road users in particular may be hidden from your view. Rule 211 It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully.
@ethelmini
@ethelmini 2 жыл бұрын
He must have been aware of the cyclist, pulled out in front off him, then crested after squeezing him against the kerb. Every indication there was a much bigger gap behind Mikey if he didn't know where he was going and knew he'd be distracted.
@davidrider2264
@davidrider2264 2 жыл бұрын
@@k-rj740 The cyclist had shit for brains creeping up the inside on a car next to a junction. I don't care what the "rules" are, you just have to ride with a bit of common sense, and take some personal responsibility. That cyclist was right up the cars arse from the get-go. Use some COMMON SENSE.
@stephenbrookes7268
@stephenbrookes7268 Жыл бұрын
Allan Stevens. Yes the cyclist was not positioning himself well. He should have been directly behind the car mid lane. The car driver was deliberately slowing and speeding. A cyclist has to expend a lot of energy to accelerate, so it is important to maintain momentum. Why was the car driver speeding up slowing then down? I have experienced my fair share of drivers that so strongly believe cyclist should not be on the road, that they take the law into their own hands and try to execute the cyclist. This is weaponising a car in order to attempt to kill someone. If you believe that this is ok, then you require psychiatric assessment.
@RolandMillward
@RolandMillward 3 жыл бұрын
If the cyclist was switched on he would not have ridden up alongside the car.
@RichyNo1
@RichyNo1 2 жыл бұрын
You clearly don't ride in a city on a regular basis, this is a very acceptable and normal thing to do and there is no so-called blind spot in that vehicle's mirror.
@jayhow997
@jayhow997 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't prosecute because the cyclist wasn't holding back. If their front wheel wasn't already along side the car they would of seen the late indication. It's 50/50.
@ces7515
@ces7515 3 жыл бұрын
I feel a combination of late signalling by the car driver, and cyclist over taking on the nearside, are the cause of this. Not wholly the fault of the car but avoidable with more care from both road users. Lessons to be learned here fir us all I'm sure, glad cyclist was ok, could have been a whole lot worse. Stay safe!
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
Late indication?`To indicate as your turn is not a late indication. It is the same as no indication. In other words, worthless.
@GBOB68
@GBOB68 3 жыл бұрын
@@ces7515 car driver should be free to slow and turn left without having to worry about anyone undertaking him. cyclist's at fault here imo. Glad he was ok though.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
@@GBOB68 What strange logic. On the other side of the coin, a cyclist should be able to ride legally, including undertaking which is perfectly legal, without having to worry about cars failing to indicate before turning. Both parties could have acted more safely, but as a driver in a car that has the potential to cause serious injury or death the imperative is always on the driver to ensure he is driving safely, which in this case he did not.
@GBOB68
@GBOB68 3 жыл бұрын
@@UglyRugby if the cyclist had sat behind the car they would have seen the indicator. why is it perfectly legal for a cyclist to undertake? serious question. it is dangerous to undertake at anytime in anything.
@twiginto
@twiginto 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos and completely agree with what you do. However, the title of the video is wrong. It implies the car driver to be at fault when clearly they both were. It was a collision and unfair to put the blame on the car. Unfortunately I've seen a few instances in these videos where bike riders aren't held to the same high standards car drivers are.
@SNIFFMYBADGER
@SNIFFMYBADGER 2 жыл бұрын
I've been cycling in London for 15 years and yes the driver should be looking at his mirrors, but you can't put yourself in that position as a cyclist, it's so dangerous
@stepbackandthink
@stepbackandthink 3 жыл бұрын
I think the cyclist was the one lucky not to get prosecuted.
@georgebarnes8163
@georgebarnes8163 2 жыл бұрын
for what?
@Devvbot
@Devvbot Жыл бұрын
Found the Toyota driver 😂
@michalwooncewicz6671
@michalwooncewicz6671 Жыл бұрын
​@@georgebarnes8163 for trying to get in between car on the left hand side. You are total imbecile if ypu think is ok to get in between car and kerb on left hand side. Show me regulation which allows ypu to do this. I would definitely get that video and call the police. It is clear on that video how stupid this cyclist was. You can only do this on the right !!!.
@cm4251
@cm4251 Жыл бұрын
@@georgebarnes8163 undertaking as a car was signalling to go left maybe ?
@lukef4166
@lukef4166 2 жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of why you don't cycle on the inside of traffic.
@stevenuibhist
@stevenuibhist 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, the cyclist was WELL in the wrong!!
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 Жыл бұрын
The car driver too.
@alextomlin485
@alextomlin485 3 жыл бұрын
@cyclingmikey I have a question, from someone who genuinely doesn’t know and just wants to know, are cyclists allowed to ride in the middle of the road in bunches of 5+, particularly on country lanes because I’ve found myself stuck behind bunches of cyclists for a good while waiting for them/me to turn off
@PaulBrocklehurst
@PaulBrocklehurst 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are, and rightly so. I think you probably mean middle of the lane rather than road.
@cntfinkvaname0
@cntfinkvaname0 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you report it when both parties said it was okay and didn't want to take it any further? No offence, but let's be honest - you love the power trip.
@craign4896
@craign4896 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao bit rich that coming from you 🤣
@Billyb0b557
@Billyb0b557 3 жыл бұрын
@@craign4896 new law, use any social media platforms outside of North Korea and punishable by way of death penalty 😂
@craign4896
@craign4896 3 жыл бұрын
@@Billyb0b557 lmfao 😂
@ollie3x10_8
@ollie3x10_8 3 жыл бұрын
Because he doesn't want to be on the recieving end of a left hook from that driver at a later date?
@meikos7091
@meikos7091 2 жыл бұрын
What dose you book say about motor with turn signal on and in front of you? What to do when overtaking motor?
@mrendo4742
@mrendo4742 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry as a cyclist, this why everyone hates us the cyclist was at fault 100% the car was in front and the cyclist came on the inside of him when he was indicating.
@TheRosshodder
@TheRosshodder 3 жыл бұрын
Not 100% cyclists fault. The driver clearly did not check his mirror before turning either.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
Not really the cyclists fault, although he should have been more cautious especially after the vehicle squeezed him into the gutter a few metres earlier. However, the car was not indicating until starting to turn, earlier indicating would have avoided the collision.
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
*"I'm sorry as a cyclist, this why everyone hates us the cyclist was at fault 100% the car was in front and the cyclist came on the inside of him when he was indicating."* This is not why "everyone hates cyclists". The hates comes mostly from ignorance and impatience dashed with a great deal of self-entitlement. The cyclist was not blameless, but to write that he is 100% at fault is not right. The driver did indicate, but he indicated as he turned. That is bad and really a worthless use of the indicators. The driver also failed to check his mirrors and blind spots before doing the turn.
@johnredcorn2476
@johnredcorn2476 3 жыл бұрын
"Well im glad your ok, that makes me happy" good man 👍
@lewisthombs
@lewisthombs 2 жыл бұрын
The driver had right of way, it’s the cyclist’s fault.
@garfield2279
@garfield2279 3 жыл бұрын
What camera do you use? Is it helmet mounted?, I’m thinking of getting one, most of my riding is countryside, mostly errant rabbits and birds, but I do get the odd close pass on narrow lanes
@dontaskme7004
@dontaskme7004 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly as you said about sitting in the middle... Sometimes you have to act as a vehicle in traffic and if a car wouldn't put itself there then you shouldn't put yourself there. Ultimately we're responsible for our own safety and can (in most cases) act to prevent harm.
@dannyjodie4736
@dannyjodie4736 5 ай бұрын
Yes 👏
@fratiijderi
@fratiijderi 3 жыл бұрын
I hate when scooters/cyclist overtakes me from behind when I'm doing left/right turns. Even if it is mentioned in a law that cyclist/scooters are allowed to do that, I still find it WRONG and dangerous. Other than that, I love what you do. Cheers!
@MsOpportunity68
@MsOpportunity68 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, as a cyclist myself, if I can see a car indicating I would rather sit behind it rather that filtering and let them complete their turn. Unfortunately, with the new law coming in in March, it seems if the car driver fails to yield to a cyclist going straight on while they are turning left that the drivers will be considered automatically at fault, encouraging more cyclist to put themselves into danger filtering on the inside.
@dannyjodie4736
@dannyjodie4736 5 ай бұрын
That’s what mirrors and indicators are for
@JonLondrezos
@JonLondrezos 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter if you’re right. Never ride at the blind spot of a car - just not worth the risk.
@brianbrian5259
@brianbrian5259 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, how do you have so much free time doing this? Are you already retired?
@georgehetty7857
@georgehetty7857 Жыл бұрын
What does the Highway Code state specifically regarding undertaking moving vehicles?
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey Жыл бұрын
No, it's 50/50. The driver braked, indicated and turned all in the same moment, without checking his nearside mirrors. You'd instantly fail your test for doing that. The cyclist was outbraked by the driver, not undertaking at the moment of the turn/crash. Of course the cyclist was also partly responsible for his bad riding. You MUST check your mirrors and not rush a turn like this.
@georgehetty7857
@georgehetty7857 Жыл бұрын
@@CyclingMikey Indeed 50/50 so as you suggested the driver should have been prosecuted but what action should have been taken against the cyclist?
@MrOzzy281
@MrOzzy281 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist was undertaking, never a good idea on a tight road like that even tried to squeeze past when there was no room. Technically driver at fault but logically cyclist at fault.
@juliantaylor8777
@juliantaylor8777 3 жыл бұрын
You do some great work Mikey, but you are wrong to call the driver out here. As a cyclist you could see what was going to happen because the cyclist was doing stupid things. Undertaking moving vehicles is dangerous simple as.
@TheHDSuperLow
@TheHDSuperLow 3 жыл бұрын
If the pictures you showed are correct then is the cyclist at fault? The picture says he should've been in the centre of the lane not on the left hand side of the car?
@josephmarsh8235
@josephmarsh8235 3 жыл бұрын
The cyclist could've done better. But still, that driver braked then signaled, and too late. You should check mirrors, signal, check interior mirror and then brake to slow down and finally check interior then side mirror and usually in this situation a glance over shoulder before turning into a road. It's all in driving lessons and people should stick to this.
@KleineJoop
@KleineJoop 3 жыл бұрын
Highlighted: GLANCE OF SHOULDER. That's what's missing, your comment could've been a lot shorter. Driver at fault, but stupid risk taken by cyclist as he is obviously the vulnerable one.
@attilab.2818
@attilab.2818 3 жыл бұрын
The car turned on it’s indicator a bit late but still the cyclists’ fault. Never undertake/pass vehicles on the inside. NEVER!
@KleineJoop
@KleineJoop 3 жыл бұрын
*On intersections, otherwise you have to pass cars all the time over there as there is no bicycle lane compared to here in the Netherlands. 100% driver at fault, not checking his blind spot and just turning instantly after indicating. That's not how i learned to drive. Yes would be wiser if the cyclist didn't try to overtake him at an intersection, but the ony reason he is in danger is because of the heavy fast motor vehicles around. Anyway, guess we're spoiled, git gud, Mikey is working at it already.
@attilab.2818
@attilab.2818 3 жыл бұрын
@@KleineJoop The cyclist shouldn’t have gone in the other vehicle’s blind spot in the first place. If he wants to pass slow moving traffic, then do it on the offside.
@pedroduarte5577
@pedroduarte5577 2 жыл бұрын
Overtaking a moving vehicle in a junction when he has his indicator on. The law says the cyclist is in the wrong here. Now show us your insurance policy to pay for damages to the driver's work vehicle! Oh...
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey 2 жыл бұрын
No. The driver braked, indicated and turned all in the same fraction of a second without checking his nearside mirror, which would fail you during a driving test. The cyclist was also to blame for bad positioning, but he didn't undertake - that was caused by being outbraked by the Uber driver. I, and most cyclists, have insurance, which is more than you can say for drivers. With 1 million uninsured drivers on our roads, cyclists will never come close to that level of lawbreaking.
@LorenzJahn
@LorenzJahn 3 жыл бұрын
If a cyclist does not drive with foresight, but in the blind spot of a car for so long, obviously without thinking about it, then in my opinion he is at least partially to blame. Driving like this is very negligent.
@nicolahurrell8543
@nicolahurrell8543 2 жыл бұрын
What camera is this the quality is soo good
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 3 жыл бұрын
Fair appraisal of it all, Mikey. I can see why the Collisions team didn’t prosecute as the cyclist did shortly before try to go for a closing gap on the inside of the UBER. And then too close & slipping past on the inside before the frankly pathetic indication also contributed. The UBER will need a bit of a paint job & no one hurt.
@gazzanorth4373
@gazzanorth4373 3 жыл бұрын
Appallingly cycling. Just asking to get hit by hovering around the car.
@Manasseh62
@Manasseh62 3 жыл бұрын
Both road users - cyclists and car drivers - can be unpredictable at times. That's why any qualified driving instructor will teach anticipation skills if they are doing their job properly. Anticipation on the drivers side: check your mirrors very carefully as you are about to change direction (turn) at the junction. Anticipation on the part of the cyclist: look around as you change speed or as you encounter another road user at any junction or turning. Slow if you are unsure and don't attempt to make progress on the inside of a car's potential manoeuvre before you're certain you are past the junction. Very lucky to not be injured.
@Wybean
@Wybean 3 жыл бұрын
See how mickey instantly tried escalating that whole situation... I got this on film if u want it he says 😂😂😂😂the man was like no its OK I'm fine... Bad driver and bad bike rider both at fault here
@andrewevans2453
@andrewevans2453 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you report your videos?
@imearly
@imearly 3 жыл бұрын
Car driver should have signalled wayyyy earlier
@harrybrown3657
@harrybrown3657 3 жыл бұрын
The cyclist is aggressively riding down the side of the car from the rear.. If i was a judge i would fine the guy on that bike. He was clearly following the car but he chose to undertake it. I hope he pays damages to the car driver for scratched paintwork. BTW I'm a keen cyclist but i could never condone what the idiot here did.
@warnz9701
@warnz9701 2 жыл бұрын
Cyclist was in the wrong place, the guy indicated and the cyclist continued even though he would have seen the indicator. Total set-up.
@namcat53
@namcat53 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the life saving cycling lesson Mikey.
@paullacey748
@paullacey748 3 жыл бұрын
Undertaking is illegal except in filter lanes. Cyclists think the rules do not apply
@GMBasix
@GMBasix 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s not. No they don’t.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
It is not illegal for cyclists to "undertake". Learn the "rules" before you complain that others dont follow them.
@SB-pv6df
@SB-pv6df 3 жыл бұрын
Derp
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
*"Undertaking is illegal except in filter lanes."* *Beware a left turn* Turning left is how most accidents occur. A cyclist may appear - perfectly legally - beside you while you’re waiting impatiently at a red light. It’s not at all illegal for cyclists to filter on the left or right of lanes but it is often difficult to spot them, especially when hidden by your blind spot. As you make a left, and as the cyclist intends to carry straight on, a collision may occur. Also be vigilant when pulling out of a side street, or car park. archive.derbyshire.police.uk/Safety-advice/Road-Safety-Vehicle-Security/Cyclists.aspx *"Cyclists think the rules do not apply"* www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists-break-far-fewer-road-rules-than-motorists-finds-new-video-study/#5b71463d4bfa
@sbla5547
@sbla5547 3 жыл бұрын
😷-as a car driver, when I occasionally cycle, I treat anything on the road with more than two wheels as being operated by the deaf dumb and blind! 😳 This puts me into a self preservation defensive mindset and has served me well over the years! 🙂 To ride so close to the curb in a narrow lane undertaking vehicles is a high-risk manoeuvre and I would urge fellow cyclists to reject this and overtake on the right hand side where the "deaf dumb and blind"have a chance of seeing you!😀
@cnjeremiah
@cnjeremiah 3 жыл бұрын
The fact he was riding with a facemask on may indicate the types of decision he makes in general..
@billybunter55
@billybunter55 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like the car was indicating to turn left and the bike drove into the car?
@PROCESSOR302
@PROCESSOR302 3 жыл бұрын
I thought overtaking on the left was illegal? The cyclist should also not cycle so close to the car, it could be in the cars blind spot. The only correct thing you said was that the cyclist should have stayed in the middle of the road.
@GMBasix
@GMBasix 3 жыл бұрын
Filtering is legal, though not without risk. Drivers are warned in the Highway Code to look out for cyclists doing just that. It is better to pass on the outside if possible. He was too close to the car, but the driver failed to take effective observation before manoeuvring. The cyclist could tell the car was ‘wobbling’, and that’s why he didn’t pass... but he was too close to take avoiding action anyway. A car does not have ‘blind spots’, just places the driver didn’t look (and possibly badly adjusted mirrors).
@TheRosshodder
@TheRosshodder 3 жыл бұрын
No, overtaking slow or stationary traffic on either side is called filtering and is legal. However, this cyclists road position was very bad and he attempted to pass on the inside after the car started indicating. Not good. The driver still should have checked his mirrors before turning though. The collision could have been prevented by either party really.
@UglyRugby
@UglyRugby 3 жыл бұрын
It is not illegal for a cyclist to undertake. Although he should have applied more caution in this case.
@notorio526
@notorio526 3 жыл бұрын
It's legal, perhaps you should read the highway code before embarrassing yourself.
@geoff9614
@geoff9614 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist is in the wrong the car was clearly in front of him when he indicated the cyclist should have slowed down not try to under take the car signalling to turn left
@jgf6072
@jgf6072 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me please, maybe I'm wrong... Since the cyclist is behind the car, shouldn't the cyclist brake to allow the car to turn? I thought it's like driving a car, if there's a collision, the car behind is guilty for not keeping the safe distance... isn't the same with bikes? Thanks!
@SGM805
@SGM805 3 жыл бұрын
“Think Bike” i’m not sure if I’ve seen any of these ad campaigns recently ,? that used to be running all the time.
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the old hammer & apple Edit:- perhaps a new campaign, with a different type of Apple
@FutureStyles
@FutureStyles 3 жыл бұрын
Driver of course needs to check mirrors. Cyclist seemed a bit dim. If you notice a driver moving around like he mentioned you’d be better off hanging back and letting him go first when approaching a turn.
@danvers213
@danvers213 3 жыл бұрын
That was the cyclists fault🤷🏽‍♂️
@tonyg368
@tonyg368 3 жыл бұрын
If people choose to pass on the inside it’s dangerous things like that can happen. Also how do you know that the driver was an Uber driver?
@abdigitaluk_photography
@abdigitaluk_photography 2 жыл бұрын
The cyclist was behind the car before it indicated it's turn. The bike started to undertake the car, which in turn should have raised alarm bells with the cyclist. The highway code says don't undertake for a reason! Not all drivers are villains.
@samo4256
@samo4256 3 жыл бұрын
Mikey wants to push the situation all the time. Mind ur own day
@Dawid-on7gp
@Dawid-on7gp 3 жыл бұрын
Mikey probably half od London know you now hehehhehe , and they see you you scare them more then police hahaha
@meanlean3095
@meanlean3095 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t undertaking illegal in the Highway Code ???
@Sir_Richard_Stewart
@Sir_Richard_Stewart 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry how is that the carport in any country and this is not a question
@mrstupid
@mrstupid 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist was on the inside and too close. Mostly the cyclist fault although the car indicated very late.
@saibot1221
@saibot1221 3 жыл бұрын
Only one at fault is the cyclist really. Car is infront of the cyclist, and has the indicators on. 100% the cyclists fault for trying to overtake on the left side at a turn! Not sure why you blame the driver here.
@msscoventry
@msscoventry 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a cyclist but ... Rule 66: Cyclists should not ride close behind another vehicle. Also I can see they skidded - maintain a safe stopping distance.
@adrianwaters7132
@adrianwaters7132 2 жыл бұрын
The car was indicating left. As a cyclist, I only undertake stationary cars (such as at traffic lights) and I still make sure I don't get in a position where they could hit me with a left turn, irrespective of whether they are signalling or not.
@dangerfulmind
@dangerfulmind 3 жыл бұрын
Great use of the indicator, indicate then 0.2 of a second later start turning! Shouldn't really complain, at least he did actually indicate though, most drivers don't even know their car comes with one.
@savagestu30
@savagestu30 3 жыл бұрын
Should have kept his distance from the vehicle in front. That way he would have had time to react to a late indication or an emergency stop.
@k-rj740
@k-rj740 3 жыл бұрын
@@savagestu30 Time to react to a late indication? Late indication? The driver indicated as he turned.
@andrewgrimshaw5180
@andrewgrimshaw5180 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist was at fault. Riding too close so couldn't react to the car indicating left. Also he was about to undertake the car. The car indicted late but if the cyclist was at a reasonable distance this would have been avoided.
@kwacker45
@kwacker45 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree on this one he should have backed off imo
@juliandowen1621
@juliandowen1621 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist was definitely tailgating.
@EP3mentalist
@EP3mentalist Жыл бұрын
Undertaking is illegal for this very reason. Pass on the right not the left, how hard is that to remember?
@gumusluk05
@gumusluk05 3 жыл бұрын
The cyclist hit him !! How exactly was he driving badly ?
@marklawrence8517
@marklawrence8517 3 жыл бұрын
Why is the guy on the bike intent on undertaking the car at a main junction? He should have anticipated the drivers actions and dropped back. Perhaps he should go on a Rospa course until he is a safe rider. Likewise the driver should have practiced Mirror, Signal, Manöver, position, speed and look! Both equally at fault I reckon.
@chrispop99
@chrispop99 3 жыл бұрын
He was not 'undertaking'. The car braked suddenly, leaving him nowhere else to go. His other option would have been to run into the back of the car!
@TheRosshodder
@TheRosshodder 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrispop99 I do not think this is the right interpretation. The safer position would have been in the centre of the lane where Mikey was riding. The cyclist could then have slowed down or even passed the car on the outside if it was safe.
@szpoti
@szpoti 2 жыл бұрын
I support you on all other videos, and I'm a diver and rider myself, but this time, it was clearly the cyclist's fault - 0:50 shows the bike BEHIND the car (it's ALWAYS your fault when you're behind), and the car begins to brake and indicate.
@namastezen3300
@namastezen3300 3 жыл бұрын
the prius driver should've known better because they know how crappy the side and rear visibility of the prius is, merged in a hurry, signaled too late and didn't check the mirrors, the cyclist should've maintained a more central lane position (as you have said all along) luckily it was low speed and no damage, great dissection (editing/production) of the incident. good going, Mikey.
@peternicholas9550
@peternicholas9550 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of luck that your on the side of the road watching traffic go by but as the bike passes you set off behind it and then that bike is involved in a minor mishap. Luck or setup?
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey 2 жыл бұрын
Luck, no setup.
@martinforrest218
@martinforrest218 3 жыл бұрын
not great cycling either though
@jimbwoy55
@jimbwoy55 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute the driver had indicated left and the cyclist tried to undertake him. Cyclists fault I'm afraid
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 3 жыл бұрын
One flash before you start a turn is hardly indicating, especially if you’re already braking. Both equally at fault imho
@colinlock5001
@colinlock5001 2 жыл бұрын
Surely the cyclist was at fault for coming down the inside of the car near a junction? I saw him indicate left or have I missed something
@halfanironman7107
@halfanironman7107 3 жыл бұрын
Not the drivers fault in my opinion, very poor cycling. Totally agree with you about keeping in the middle of your lane on roads like this, too close to the side is an invitation to a close pass or a car door.
@harveytrill2399
@harveytrill2399 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist is in the wrong here aswell don’t even try it🤣🤣
@hardcoretam
@hardcoretam 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you decided to comment and no bother watching the video bit where he states the cyclist could have done better?
@harveytrill2399
@harveytrill2399 3 жыл бұрын
@@hardcoretam so why doesn’t he do that to the driver aswell instead of filming their number plate and stating it’s going to the police? Both equally in the wrong but he tries to get one prosecuted but the other gets a “oh yh u could have done better” come off it lad
@craigstablet9237
@craigstablet9237 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good example of why you should only overtake on the right hand side.
@stevengreen7992
@stevengreen7992 3 жыл бұрын
Why do cyclists always think that they are in the right? In this case the cyclist was more at fault than the driver, that's why the Met didn't prosecute. The cyclist tried to undertake, without due-care and attention. A month ago, I came up to a junction and obviously had to brake, a few seconds later a cyclist rammed into the back of my car. I got out and asked him if he was OK, but he had caused a few light scratches to my rear bumper. But I didn't threaten to put him on KZbin and get the police to fine him. People make mistakes, cyclists and drivers, if the damage is light, let it go bro.
@MrJaffa333
@MrJaffa333 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say the cyclist is at fault, the road is to narrow to be under taking. It doesn’t matter if you can do it, it’s no good being in the right when you’re dead.
@clivecooke3013
@clivecooke3013 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclist's fault 100% - must have really annoyed our non-appointed vigilante. Pass on the inside at your peril!!
@southwirralcyclist1986
@southwirralcyclist1986 3 жыл бұрын
It's perfectly legal for cyclists to filter on the inside. Cyclelanes would be pointless otherwise.
@clivecooke3013
@clivecooke3013 3 жыл бұрын
@@southwirralcyclist1986 It wasn't a cycle lane I don't think ?
@EllipticGeometry
@EllipticGeometry 3 жыл бұрын
Drivers like this one must wonder why their indicators aren’t tied directly to their steering wheel angle.
@haydencooper_
@haydencooper_ 2 жыл бұрын
Whichever way you look at it the driver failed to indicate early enough. Why bother at all if the indicator lights come on as you decide you're turning. Unless he knew he was turning and still failed to indicate earlier which is probably worse.
@jumbo994
@jumbo994 3 жыл бұрын
we overtake on the right in england. 100% cyclists fault, prat.
@CyclingMikey
@CyclingMikey 3 жыл бұрын
Would you pass your driving test by suddenly braking and turning left without checking your mirrors and by indicating as you turned? Nope. The cyclist certainly bears some of the blame, but the absolute fault lies with the driver.
@jumbo994
@jumbo994 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyclingMikey I get your point, I would guess that the guy on the bike would also fail any cycling proficiency test doing what he did there. I did my proficiency test in 1984 and they definitely didn't teach me to sit in blind spots and undertake. I am a cyclist and a motorist and on a daily basis I see on the roads, driving that would hands down fail a test, and the behavior of some cyclists can also be poor with many lacking the skills that might keep them alive one day. There are a lot of people, including both parties in your video, that would benefit from upping their skills, perhaps by watching some of your excellent content.
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