Crashing a DC-10 on Final Approach to Mexico City | Deadly Mistake (With Real Audio)

[@josephwood499]

I was 10 years old at that time and living in Mexico for a couple of years. We flew a couple of days after to Los Angeles and on take off saw the debris and parts of the plane on my right side. Will never forget it.

[@trippen4391]

I was right beside you and screamed loud 😳

[@icantthinkofaname2812]

@@trippen4391 how were you able to identify that person 🤔

[@trippen4391]

@@icantthinkofaname2812 lol

[@Aviation-mr7mq]

@@trippen4391 why u capping

[@vickiehawkins2447]

😳😳 WOW

[@jayteadesigns]

I was a flight attendant for Western Airlines at the time. Some of the flight attendants on that flight (who didn't make it) were fresh out of flight attendant training. I remember how devastating it was for our whole Western family. Thanks for posting this video.

[@Son0fFalse]

Thanks for your comment!

[@Slinger43]

My goodness, I imagine that was a devastating time for everyone close to the occupants of that doomed flight 🙏 😞

[@jayteadesigns]

@@Son0fFalse Thank you! Through this video I have learned more about this accident than I ever knew before.

[@jayteadesigns]

@SpaceAce100 Thank you! 😉

[@quakerlyster]

I recently found out that a Western employee Larry Rountree, a guy who was in my electric shop class in jr. high was killed in that crash. I wasn't friends with him, but it still felt strange to find that out so many years later.

[@tomwalsh8585]

There was a lot of other stuff that happened with this flight. My dad was the S/O. My mom said the last thing my dad said to her that night when she dropped him off at the bus to LAX was, "I've got a bad feeling about tonight." I heard there were personal issues between the Captain and F/O, and that they used the CVR for training after that to teach people to work together in the cockpit. There were other technical things too. It was a mess.

[@moniqueh7948]

Did your dad die in the crash? x

[@nathanhosea489]

Was your father Flight Engineer Daniel Walsh? I'm very sorry for your loss if so.

[@tomwalsh8585]

@@nathanhosea489 Yes, people showed up at our house Halloween morning and told us there had been an accident.

[@tomwalsh8585]

@@moniqueh7948 yes he was the flight engineer.

[@JoeyFlyBoy]

@@tomwalsh8585 im sorry for your loss good sir

[@zero1fifty8]

This pilot screaming right before the crash is one of the most chilling I've heard. So sad

[@annakeye]

Heartbreaking. The fear and resignation to his plight, all played out in a matter of moments.

[@thereallincolntakanashi]

Honestly, I have heard worse. Ever heard the CVR of Pulkovo 612?

[@badmonkey2222]

@@thereallincolntakanashi yeah I've heard it, there are several that are as bad or worse than this one.

[@em1osmurf]

the cvr of Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 182 where the pilot told his wife goodbye and that he loved her. 10 seconds is a long time to watch certain death coming at you.

[@zero1fifty8]

@@em1osmurf "This is it baby"

[@F3502000]

I remember this all too well. My Mom worked for Chuck (Pilot) and Helen Gilbert. I was home when the phone call came in...my Mom answered and just started crying. It was Helen. They were good people, and had a special needs son.

[@TNsher776]

Wow! Really?

[@timjones8210]

The fact that they had a special needs son doesn’t make any more tragic

[@alangaming2003]

Don’t you mean mum

[@timjones8210]

@@alangaming2003 Mom= mother …. Mum = mummy?

[@peter-radiantpipes2800]

@@timjones8210 yeah it does. For the son. Being a dad with one… tragedy is tragedy. Someone who heavily depends, likely for life, is one more. So yeah, it does. Just like every life affected.

[@dinobunny101]

I have been an avid watcher of your channel for awhile now, and I just wanted to say I appreciate everything about the videos, especially the respect shown by not sensationalizing actual crashes. The graphics are beautiful, the music is touching, and the information that accompanies are all top notch. Thank you for your hard work.

[@MrCrystalcranium]

...and the narration videos SUCK!

[@ivebeenmemed]

@@MrCrystalcranium nah I prefer the narration

[@cavaalli]

@@MrCrystalcranium the narration was a suicide! re really want ti crash his channel. everybody is hating it. it was horrendous!

[@MrCrystalcranium]

@@cavaalli Everybody usually does the 3-4 times a year he narrates. As fantastic as his recreations and his production skills are, I don't think he fully understands why a million+ subscribe. I sit with my mouth open on a weekly basis at the way these simulations put me right there...on the wing...in the cockpit or flying along to the left a little behind or a little below a doomed aircraft high in a moonlit sky. When he did UPS 6 that crashed in Dubai, I felt the pain and horror of a smoke blinded pilot desperately trying to find the airport, his captain asphyxiated and pleading ATC for vectors. Blood chilling. When he talks it's TOTALLY different. Too bad...oh well...I'll have to wait another week!

[@alvaroakatico9188]

@@MrCrystalcranium That’s a perfect assessment of the channel and I concur.

[@alecairpaag]

If you hear something like that in a movie, you won't believe it. Knowing this recording was real... Sends chills through your entire body. Sometimes I show these videos to my kiddo, but not this one. Still, an excellently produced video.👍👍

[@saturn722]

Thank you for considering the mental health of your child and not letting him/her observe this tragic real life event. Our children are already bombarded enough with violence and adult situations which their immature minds cannot absorb without negative consequences.

[@maxtornogood]

You don't often hear grown men howling like that, that was just as chilling as the first recreated simulation I saw of this tragedy.

[@dezznutz3743]

Yeah this is the 2nd Ive seen and I cant remember which creator already did this crash...I could search I guess, lol.

[@RPG-oh1yf]

The thing with crashes like this is the pilots KNOW for several seconds they are going to crash and die and there's nothing they can do to stop it. At least the passengers who died didn't see what was coming.

[@kylebieth3678]

@@RPG-oh1yf when your watching the wing drag on the ground...you know whats coming

[@RPG-oh1yf]

@@kylebieth3678 reasons not to pick the window seat?

[@donnabaardsen5372]

I used to date an airline pilot, and asked him about this, saying if it was me I'd be screaming all the way down. Then asked how come when transcripts of crashes are released, the public doesn't hear/see that. He said that yes, they always scream but for the most part this is kept from the public for the sake of the families.

[@oilfan9445]

I was wondering when they'd make a video on this one. Hearing the CVR for the first time and every time after always rattles me to the core. The fear in the pilot's voice is beyond terrifying.

[@biggiouschinnus7489]

It's just horrific. Those poor men in that cockpit.

[@adotintheshark4848]

sometimes if you're about to die it's better not knowing it's coming.

[@cpchehaibar]

I was a 10-year old boy living in Mexico City and I remember learning about this crash on my way to school early in the morning. It was the only thing anyone talked about for weeks. Newspapers were filled with pictures of the carnage. It was incredibly tragic.

[@afterburner119]

As an aviation professional and professional avgeek, I look forward to each and every video you do. Thank You for your hard work and if I can ever help you out with technical jet engine questions I will see what I can do.

[@justinlane1980]

I always hate hearing cockpit voice recordings where the pilots know they’re doomed. What a damn nightmare.

[@CGJUGO80]

I don’t think it is appropriate, nor respectful for it to be put public in the first place.

[@LucioHarriott]

@@CGJUGO80 Whilst CVR recordings do have a great investigative and educational value, moments of sheer panic such as this one should definitely be suppressed from the public and be left exclusively to aviation authorities.

[@aaronvivier8393]

@@andyfoxy3140 dude why do you have to be that person, dont you believe in karma?

[@CGJUGO80]

@@LucioHarriott Agreed word for word. Well said.

[@ryanthan3595]

@@andyfoxy3140 wtf is wrong with you?

[@10191927]

The audio combined with the visual recreation of the accident sent chills through me head to toe, a moment of utter Hell and hopelessness. A miracle anyone survived at all.

[@skintslots]

I am amazed there were 16 survivors. I thought nobody would have survived this crash. I also remember back then how much bad publicity DC 10 aircraft were getting

[@elisevautour6292]

Exactly!

[@FLAMEalan]

Yeah cos it’s a shit plane. Doesn’t matter if it was pilot or maintenance error, an error is still an error. The plane was clearly designed badly otherwise there wouldn’t have been so many “pilot” or “maintenance” errors

[@Samir-dy6le]

@@FLAMEalan Well if you think most DC-10 crashes are because of it being badly designed, then you really know nothing about pilot error and what the main reasons for crashing are. Planes that are known to be great like the 737 and 747 had many "flaws" that were corrected over the years. You can check out the Boeing 737 rudder issues in the 90s or the 737 Max's MCAS Issues in 2018/2019). The point is the actual DC-10 was responsible for crashes like Turkish Airlines Flight 981, but definitely had nothing to do with this one, United 232, American 191 (the one that first made the plane seem such a villain) and many others.

[@gothic_eternal]

@@Samir-dy6le true

[@rameezkhan645]

The pilots screaming right before the crash was so scary, I can't imagine those last moments. Literally gave me goosebumps and a vibration gone through my whole body. RIP Legends

[@Frip36]

Screams were first officer, not capt. I believe.

[@TehUltimateSnake]

@The Best Video Maker EVER! Not in the literal sense smh lol

[@CaptainJadenAR]

The tragic part was the audio. The pilots' conversations (when they realized they were going to crash) were so disturbing. Because of their shouting, their help to save the plane was the most disturbing part :(

[@PAVLOS2000]

The screams were bone chilling. Knowing you will die but not wanting to, worst feeling ever.

[@tsachie4822]

@San Tropez c'mon man

[@PAVLOS2000]

@San Tropez the screams were of fear.

[@PAVLOS2000]

@San Tropez 😐🤝😐

[@adotintheshark4848]

as the buildings and ground are looming closer and closer and there's nothing you can do...

[@PAVLOS2000]

@@adotintheshark4848 your family flashes before your eyes, the guilt of killing innocent people.

[@joyhruska9377]

That was heartbreaking listening to those pilots final moments. May they all R.I.P

[@paulnbrenda358]

How can they rest in peace??? They took the Lords name in vain. They are in hell and not RIP!

[@gabrielramos5338]

@@paulnbrenda358 And?

[@JK-lp6uw]

@@paulnbrenda358 you aren't God.

[@paulnbrenda358]

@@JK-lp6uw Its so sad that you dont even know the Bible (KJV). God says dont take my name in vein.

[@JK-lp6uw]

@@paulnbrenda358 it's sad that you are so judgemental. I do know the Bible and I never said a word about taking the lords name in vain. Don't be stupid and sarcastic. Its very unbecoming.

[@LifeWithLee]

The Pilot screaming in the end confirmed my fear of crashing in a plane. So heart breaking. May they all RIP.

[@garyc39]

You mean rest in pieces

[@bobgonzales9680]

Game over. Death is natural and it comes for sure no matter how, just be prapared to welcome it at any time.

[@Oyzatt]

@@bobgonzales9680 you're right. But the fear of knowing you're going to crash to your death, is what's terrifying. If death was like switching on a light, no one will even scream

[@Oyzatt]

I never felt safe whiles flying, until the plane touches down

[@NPC_-mf4dw]

@@Oyzatt Meanwhile, you feel perfectly safe driving in a car, bus or train, or just walking down the street. It's a very irrational fear, but that makes it so interesting.

[@ElYeyuno]

I was a 9 year old kid living in Mexico City, and this crash was all over the news. The press published grim details and photos, for days... Ir was perhaps the first shock news coverage that I rememeber. Now, listening the chilling recordings of the crew, I revived the impact this tragedy had... It was even more terrible than I remembered.

[@lagflag]

Why no one talks about those who were in the first class and must have heard the pilot screams?! That must have been so terrifying, RIP all the victims

[@jamiecotton9571]

My mom reminds me every now and then about how my dad was supposed to be on that flight before I was born. He got drunk the night before, slept in, rushed to the airport as the gates closed on him then later found out it crashed. He was in disbelief. I am always reminded that sometimes things are left up to fate, life is short, and enjoy it while you can.

[@timmy841212]

Saddest audio of a plane crash that I ever heard. The captain's screams were so heartbreaking. RIP. 😥😢

[@deepalijain803]

😭 Called on to the name of Jesus Christ

[@planeflavor5557]

He was soo scared and screammed soo much. I also was sad too much

[@upendrakurdukar4423]

You should hear me & the boys getting our report cards

[@attilabalogh865]

@sk joe He hurt your imaginary friend?

[@youneke]

If this one is the saddest you have ever heard you have never heard JAL flight 123 Boing 747 1985 520 on board, lost all hydraulics on the way to Osaka from Haneda.

[@nikkitronic80]

The audio from those poor pilots last seconds on this earth Is one of the most heart wrenching and terribly sad things I have ever heard. To hear that much fear in a man's voice is just... .. awful. May God bless their souls. ♥️✈️🙏♥️✈️🙏♥️✈️🙏

[@omaralkhaledi]

God is only one, so praise him.

[@craigusselman546]

He goes from cool as a cucumber to a terrified little boy in 2 seconds awful.

[@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible]

This is the god which knew this was going to happen ? There is zero evidence for any gods.

[@blurbutnerd8355]

@@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible uh oh here comes the firestorm

[@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible]

​@San Tropez What is 0 to the power of 0 ?

[@user-lj9pb9io8n]

Thank you flight channel i lost my aunt in this accident 😢😢😢 i have missed her my intire life she was like a big sister to me 💖God Bless you tia Esperansa Natera .. 😘💋💞💖🇺🇸🙏😇😢😢😢😢

[@fanofflight200]

I’m very sorry to hear that.

[@jimmydcap]

Our deepest condolences to you and your family.

[@Big_Tex]

Imagine being the dump truck driver, looking up at the last moment …

[@martinc.720]

I don’t think they could even do that. Solid effort to write a comment that starts with “Imagine” though!

[@lunarmagiclegend]

Probably was chuggin a Tecate too

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Comic book guy: “oh how I’ve wasted my life”

[@P90F55]

@@lunarmagiclegend Blasting Mexican poka music.

[@timmy841212]

Don't think he was able to. He was decapitated before he could do anything.

[@Ghaffar_KH]

This CVR and Japan Airline 123’s recording are some of the saddest things I’ve heard.

[@JazzJaRa]

Then you should listen to the one of GOL airlines 1907 it's also one very sad one.

[@scotthoneycutt6902]

If you can find it... US Air's 737 crash! (Rudder Reversal) I believe it was over Pennsylvania. I think they took it down because it was so bad. They knew it was over!

[@DarkpawTheWolf]

@@scotthoneycutt6902 Is that the one where the last thing they said is "We're down." I can't remember which crash that was, but what he said really stuck in my head.

[@Dmnthygtshlds2]

@@DarkpawTheWolf that was Colgan 3407 I'm pretty sure

[@MahouneArrow]

@@JazzJaRa as a Brazilian and, of course, Portuguese language native... Hear the Gol's blackbox is so hard... The cap fight until the end and the f/o crying don't believe in the moment... shattered my heart... Minutes ago they talk about the trip photos, cars... In the other minute they are dead...

[@jonastrex05]

Imagine being the newsreporter that hasn’t flown on a DC-10 due to a DC-10 crash, and first time after, then this...

[@JB-mb6lm]

@A Publick Domain dc- 10 was a trash plane though. But yes pilot error

[@possiblepilotdeviation5791]

@@JB-mb6lm No it wasn't.

[@JB-mb6lm]

@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 I'm talking about other accidents not this one

[@dfuher968]

And tho not mentioned in the video. Yeah, he died.

[@dezznutz3743]

To be fair, this accident wasnt the fault of the DC-10. Many were, but not this one.

[@JoeSmoe1]

that was the worst and most disturbing recording ever, omg I almost cried

[@RailsofForney]

Can’t say I was that sensitive but it was definitely depressing.

[@PlutonicMorph]

The pilot crying. The man in charge of everything happening at that moment. When I heard his scream I couldnt imagine what was going through his mind.

[@afrahkhizer7239]

Indeed those pilots must have been soo scared and terrified Realizing that they cannot recover the plane

[@shariys1]

Ever heard the CVR from Comair 3272?

[@rpmiracle]

@@PlutonicMorph the windshield.

[@Britcarjunkie]

I personally knew Capt. Gilbert, and have gone flying with him in his personal airplane (I used to work where he kept it): he was a damn good pilot - one of Western Airlines' senior pilots, and he flew L.A.- Mexico City on a regular basis, becausd he liked that run. The controller he was speaking to did sound like he spoke good English, but in the un-edited audio, even he was confused as to which side of the lights they were supposed to land on. I can only presume that Capt. Gilbert tried to land, because he had flown there so many times (hundreds - literally), and he was comfortable doing so, even in bad weather...and unfortunately, that's when accidents will happen when least expected.

[@kellybecker2721]

He was my great uncle. Thank you for the kind words.

[@Britcarjunkie]

@@kellybecker2721 Anytime, Kelly. He was a great man, and one of the people I always liked to see, when I got out of school, and peddled my bike over to Warbirds West. What really rubbed everybody that knew him the wrong way, was when the Mexican government decided it was his fault: the fact that landing procedures during the kind of circumstances under which this accident happened, were changed, pretty much says it wasn't his fault. I've just realized something: I must think about him much more than I thought I did, because, whenever somebody tries to call me Charlie (what everybody called him), I correct them, and say "No - I'm Charles, not Charlie.". 🙂

[@Miketar2424]

I feel it was a major deflection of responsibility of the airport operators to blame the pilots here, when they left the ILS active leading straight to a closed runway littered with construction equipment in bad weather. We can only hope that this incident prevented more major disasters of this kind.

[@asdf3568]

Landing on a dark runway seems pretty dumb to me

[@Trump-Will-Ruin-Our-Economy]

Look, it may appear that nothing's gained by peeing on Capt. Gilbert's grave but other pilots will watch this video and read these comments. Gilbert was the pilot on this approach and landing. His lack of professionalism caused this accident. You're not a great pilot if you aren't on top of things 100% of each flight. If you're a pilot you can never let your guard down. That's what you're paid for. Stay on top of things or go get another job. Thanks.

[@clydelabios344]

The CVR literally made mr cry, those poor pilots knowing that they’re about to die, i have listened to the same cvr once or twice before this, but it’s still very emotional to listen to it, i have always dubbed this crash as a very emotional and sad one, and i don’t care if it’s pilot error because this crash was so horrific R.I.P to the 77 people who died in this crash.

[@KingofFray]

73 in total with 72 were on board

[@watershed44]

@Clyde Labios That audio was blood curdling, terrible loss for all the families that lost loved ones.

[@101jir]

Pilot error does not necessarily indicate a "bad pilot" per se. Usually the NTSB uncovers multiple contributing factors. Ultimately, yes, responsibility is considered to lie with the pilot. But in crashes like this, often systemic changes are made to make it less likely to occur for future pilots. Airline pilots have extensive experience and training. If that isn't enough, or if a bad one did slip through the cracks, the NTSB knows something deeper needs to change to prevent it from happening again. Only case I can think of that's close to a "bad pilot" was the one on the Canary Islands (worst in history). And that guy was very experienced, they just realized that in addition to a number of other issues, to much emphasis was put on flights arriving on time and not enough on safety in the workplace.

[@krashd]

This wasn't pilot error, this was procedural error. The crew had no idea that they had to sidestep and so because the ATC never explicitly mentioned that only one of the runways had an ILS it would not be unfair to say that they assumed the ILS they were coming down from was for the runway they were meant to land at. The ATC should have clearly stated that only 23L has an ILS and that they needed to sidestep to 23R but he didn't, though you can't really fault him either as there was no procedure in place in 1979. The ATC assumed the crew knew they had to sidestep while the crew assumed they were gliding down the ILS towards 23R.

[@101jir]

@@krashd Thanks for clarifying the difference between "procedural error" and "pilot error." Did not know that before.

[@shawntoshkhatri9130]

Get it up Charlie", the death is few seconds away and you still giving your best!

[@rajnikantsharma]

What's with that first name?

[@patolt1628]

@@rajnikantsharma It's the name of the captain (Charles Gilbert) I think

[@williambrown8249]

My wife said something along those lines to me as well. I also failed to accomplish the requested task :(

[@shawntoshkhatri9130]

@@williambrown8249 Mate, sad to say you can't recover from that stall!

[@Boss_Tanaka]

@@williambrown8249 she should have taken control

[@seti48]

For a side step, the minimum visibility should have been raised substantially.

[@Morpheen999]

Exactly, i was hoping to find this comment somewhere This maneuver in that weather is just asking for a crash

[@scottfranco1962]

It was a contributing factor, but the fundamental problem was their confusion over which runway they were landing at, and not using the term "sidestep".

[@marcuswarfield9119]

@San Tropez facts

[@kentbetts]

It was an interesting mistake that I don't think is made clear. The pilots somehow believed that the ILS was taking them to 23R. As they were crossing the threshold they then realized that they were supposed to sidestep, or realized that the runway they were about to land on was 23L. It was somewhat understandable I think because it is a matter of habit that the ILS takes you to the runway you land on.

[@scottfranco1962]

@@kentbetts Sure, but people get hung up on what the controllers could have done better. They go home that night, unlike the pilots. Thus us pilots need to think again, and again about what does and does not make sense. If you are told 23 RIGHT and you expect 23 LEFT you need to speak up or go missed. Our airport has dual runways. I've lost count of the number of times I asked "verify landing 31 LEFT...". Its a shorter, darker runway.

[@bestboy138]

Definitely one of the most chilling CVRs. Just horrific.

[@xeldinn86]

Have you heard Japan Airlines 123 audio? It's even worse

[@bestboy138]

@@xeldinn86 - I’ve heard them all but I only speak and understand English because I am an idiot.

[@robertbrook8552]

They all sad The Fedx was sad too that copilot after the captain died. Couldn't see cause of smoke.

[@DalyTheThird]

@@robertbrook8552 That was UPS Flight 6. Such a sad sad story.

[@dashamanstevo5326]

@@bestboy138 No Dumber than me mate, with most actual CVR audio, you don't need to speak the pilot's language to understand the fear or desperation in the tone of their voice. As an English only speaker, we have no idea, as humans, we understand.

[@Ninjanight4gt]

The screaming of the flight crew broke my heart...

[@BrianAdams-dt1ks]

LOL, you loved every second, as did the others posting similar.

[@fanofflight200]

The black box recorder almost made me cry, the first officer was screaming.

[@Cbd_7ohm]

No. The captain was. The first officer was saying "get it up."

[@fanofflight200]

@@Cbd_7ohm thank you for correcting me.

[@cruisertechgt]

@@Cbd_7ohm no captain said get it up

[@Cbd_7ohm]

@@cruisertechgt Nope. The quote is literally in the video.

[@cruisertechgt]

@@Cbd_7ohm quote is likely wrong. Listen to the video and voice again.

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

With that much disagreement in the cockpit, PIC should have called for TOGO much earlier.

[@jamiehoover9348]

Holy shit, that CVR was horrifying with the F/O screaming ... Wow. Very hard to listen to , but I must admit I played it back about 8 or 9!times. .... R.I.P

[@america6545]

It was the captain.

[@jamiehoover9348]

@@america6545 but the guy was screaming to Charlie and Charlie was the captain... Either way tho , it was horrible

[@ellenguadagnino6522]

Just once was enough for me…

[@MrNb131]

There was also a flight engineer in the cockpit. Could have been him.

[@johnmarksmith1120]

@@america6545 It was all three of them but the one that tends to get people (myself included) is hearing the abject horror and fear in the captain's voice.

[@katd367]

I absolutely love your channel. But what first attracted me was not only how much info and explanation you give, but I loved reading it and the anticipation of waiting to see what happens. I do prefer the non voice video, but it's your channel to run as you like. :)

[@xeldinn86]

I hated reading it. I always had to pause it and sheet. Wish he could release two versions. One with text, one with voice. But I know that is a lot of work and he probably doesn't have time for that .

[@tomwalsh6774]

agreed Kat

[@timjones8210]

I’m sure he’s aware it’s his channel and can do with it as he pleases

[@tomwalsh6774]

@@timjones8210 it’s his channel? No shit. Kat was being very polite and just simply said her preference - constructive criticism from a subscriber. That is all

[@dashamanstevo5326]

@@tomwalsh6774 Wouldn't worry too much Tom. (See the reply to "The Great Gazoo" above, if it is still there.)

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

The yells of the pilots is terrifying, you can hear him screaming knowing he's just about to meet his maker. God bless.

[@Mr-S.p.o.c.k]

God bless ? He was blessed with death by your god and his Devine plan. How lovely. Next... your god ignores 40 k children that die of starvation daily. Such a loving kind god you have. Subsequently... you have zero evidence of any kind for the existence of a deity that cares what you eat and wear. Try to think more technically douche

[@martinc.720]

@@Mr-S.p.o.c.k Try not to call people names simply because they believe in something you don’t.

[@martinc.720]

@Noah Hendershot Look, I know you had to make an “imagine” comment to follow the trend, but we just saw it in the vid, we don’t have to imagine anything.

[@rossbrown6641]

Meet his maker? Come on, Paddy!

[@behindthen0thing525]

@@Mr-S.p.o.c.k pos

[@blueblur6447]

This comment is made with loads of respect and love for your channel. I enjoy the text versions w/real audio/pictures when available more than the voice over version. This episode was very chilling and sad. Thanks for all your content and hardwork!

[@thomasminer]

I was a Western. Airlines second officer at the time and flew this same trip just days before and after the accident without incident. This accident was one of an unfortunate number that lead to the FAA requiring Crew Resource Management of all airline crews to reinforced proper and complete communication among ALL crew members. Also Western thereafter required that a Captain that had not before been to Mexico City have along an instructor pilot to explain the special nature of flying to the city.

[@stonecold5373]

Sounds like the runways are fked up at that airport.

[@Cokie907]

@@stonecold5373 Runway closures are routine and long-term in some cases. I was based in Detroit and we had multiple closed runways for about 2-3 years. At Moline, they had the entire airport tore up for at least 3-4 years and we landed on a taxiway for about 9 months. I remember flying in one day and saying to the controller: "Glad to see y'all finally got the place put back together". 😂 He laughed and said "Believe me, nobody is happier than WE are!!"

[@marksmith8079]

Western Airlines is just to blame for this accident. Informed 12 days before the accident and still haven't come up with briefing pilots approaching Mexico City Airport- that is just criminal. Also Mexico Airport should have closed their ILS- no point for non-functioning runway.

[@DenverHornsbyJr]

@@marksmith8079 100%

[@teaser1950]

​@@marksmith8079 What can I said? AICM Airport are still a dangerous airport, based in a 2200 meters above sea level, and fog is almost always present in downs. And now, the actual goverment are so dumb, and cancelled a very needed Airport just to please the current president, a naive and stupid person who never saw what the people really needs. I loved WA, and this accident really hurts me. By the way, Im mexican and I live in Mexico City.

[@jbaibv]

There was a plane crash in Paraguay in the year 1996. (LAC Colombia). If I'm not mistaken, the pilot tried to make a joke to the co-pilot shortly after takeoff and he put the engines to idle. The plane crashed in an urban area, and it fell over a volleyball field where members of a family had a gathering, and 18 members of that family on land perished. There is also recordings of the black box. You should make a video of that accident.

[@whatadad...1770]

Maybe am used to...but I love it without the voiceover... could hear the brilliant sound editing

[@Somnospeed]

Yes!! You hear that @theflightchannel ?? NO NARRATION!!!

[@cavaalli]

you are not alone. this felt like a tiktok video. @theflightchannel

[@SuperWooba]

I am also team no narrator lol

[@captvik8160]

Agreed !

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

I would like to think there’s a way he could offer both. I know it’s extra work though.

[@BrigidSamhain]

This one - sound of man screaming - hurt my heart bad

[@pankajkushwaha2288]

The first officer.. yes very chilling

[@vinnyhorapeti2461]

Man you have a good channel as well as voice but still that subtitle arrangement is the best

[@iolandagirleanu9006]

All stories aside, the music gets me every time.

[@BstnJE]

Agree that... 👍👍

[@videodeposu8741]

He has a good choice of music

[@Jonathan-do1sj]

Does anyone know the song with the piano that starts at 1:10?

[@ronpetrosky1814]

Me too

[@ImmortalSynn]

Yes, but it's really missing the classic piano piece that used to be in all of the videos prior to about a year ago. That music use to be emblematic of this channel, to me, and now it's almost never used anymore. :( :(

[@__eganista6372]

Those screams! Jesus that was horrific :,( RIP to the pilots and others who perished.

[@TheAdditionalPylons]

I'm shocked that anyone survived this. Plane tears off landing gear and uncontrollably banks into the ground before smashing into a building. The survivors are quite lucky.

[@tensevo]

or unlucky, to be in such a crash to begin with.

[@scottfrench3354]

And just to think one or two of the passengers didn’t even get hurt. The ones that survived were seated in a 20 foot section of the plane that didn’t burn. I saw the pics they were damn lucky to be in that part of the plane.

[@madamebkrt]

@@scottfrench3354 Which part of the plane exactly?

[@113krynn]

@@madamebkrt The back.

[@sazzlepop321]

@@113krynn right I’m selecting rear seats next time

[@blackspider9561]

The ending is really sad. Feel for those guys.

[@wardsquidcirca1999]

This was possibly the saddest cvr I’ve heard.

[@davidgoodman6924]

Agree, that was horrible.

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

7:45...I never understood how someone can use God's name as a curse word

[@titan9259]

What about China Airlines 358?

[@atomichell6444]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 It was said unintentionally in a panicked manner

[@Interdictiondeltawing]

JAL 123 CVR gotta be terrifying

[@herts9999]

That poor dump truck driver 😢

[@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549]

Yep

[@xxboonisbadfortnitexx1549]

This is messed up

[@flyeagle320]

Its so sad to learn that one miscommunication caused a lots of life .

[@flyeagle320]

@Brad James yes true . If ATC would have informed side step approach to pilot . This wouldn't have happened.

[@Somnospeed]

@@skjoe1115 Welcome to geography class: Mexico is not third world lol.

[@rajnikantsharma]

@@skjoe1115 Yes, crashes/accidents, violence, etc., happen only in "third world" countries.

[@flyeagle320]

@@skjoe1115 American too have crash cases in abundance . You can see his previous videos .

[@suzannehartmann946]

We are too reliant on AI these days and too comfortable with it. It was NOT ONE miscommunication. It was a FLAWED continuous miscommunication and a flawed theory that people in a stressed situation with split seconds to make a correction could deal with a mistake if they misunderstood the difference between RIGHT and LEFT after taking over from the machine.

[@Plan3playzfs]

"Charlie.. Get it up! (Impact), Oh Jesus Christ, AHHHH!, AHHH!, UHHHHHAAAHHHGGHH!." This hit hard, just pilots screaming before dying, may them rest in peace, and Lord have mercy.

[@elgaatooo]

Man, that CVR audio got me teary eyed. RIP to everyone who lost their lives. 🙏

[@FUNKAF1ED]

I've heard the audio before. I am watching this on mute. I do not want to hear it again. Those screams came from hell.

[@jackpeterian7269]

This episode was much easier to follow than others! Sometimes it’s easier to listen rather than having to read the captions

[@FelisThis]

I agree. I think this is the first time I heard audio on this channel. It's quite nice, actually.

[@OshinTorek]

@@FelisThis No he made some voice-over videos back then. And most fans were upset. You must be new to this channel.

[@vladjobs]

I liked the music only one better. It was more emotional without audio

[@kellychilds8683]

I'm used to reading it with engine noise.....:)

[@kaihumphreys96]

The narrator ruined the damn video and really pissed me off, literally I was expecting a really good video like before but no it was it was a disappointment

[@cavaalli]

im writing it again since @theflightchannel have been deleting my comments about the narration. do not change a winning formula !!! NO MORE NARRATION !!!!! this is not TIKTOK !

[@kaihumphreys96]

@@cavaalli he’s doing it to my comments too, He’s probably embarrassed that we don’t like his voice talking over the video, @TheFlightChannel we’re only saying as we prefer without any audio

[@cavaalli]

@@kaihumphreys96 it is unfortunate, we are just giving him a constructive criticism because we appreciate his content. if he can t take it, and appreciate his subscribers feedbacks, and keeps the horrendous narration, well there are many other channels to subscribe to... @theflightchannel

[@standartenfuhrerhanslanda343]

Those pilots knew they were going to die. Horrific screams.

[@rakshithkumarms9450]

Those harsh screams from the pilots before perishing seeing their end on this earth. God damn!😢

[@fanofflight200]

Man these videos keep getting better. Rip to all.

[@mjb12141963]

I had an Aunt who was a Flight Attendant for Western at that time. She flew that flight and flights from LAX to northern California. My family had just moved out of California that July and I had never heard of this crash until now.

[@watershed44]

@MJB Did your aunt ever speak about that accident, and what did she say? Thanks.

[@fortherain5448]

Finally a much detailed information about the infamous CVR. May God has mercy on their souls. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@donrudisuhle515]

I used to live in Mexico City and I was a witness to this accident. I was at the airport that morning for a flight to New York. The DC-10's tail and #2 engine skidded to within about 50 feet of where I parked my car and was stopped by a cyclone fence. When our Eastern Airlines 727 was taxiing out to runway 23R for takeoff, we went past the smoldering wreckage. Our captain announced that the site of the tragic Western Airlines crash was visible out the left side of the aircraft. In the 1960s I flew that same Western Airlines LAX-MEX route many times, mostly on Boeing 720s.

[@jamesb1988]

Good lord, that's a little morbid of the Captain of your flight to treat the wreck like it was some sort of sightseeing object...I'm surprised the airport wasn't immediately shut down entirely as soon as the crash occured. It was certainly a different time back then

[@TheUtuber999]

"And if you look outside to the left ladies and gentlemen you will see the smoldering wreckage of one of our competitor's planes... however, it's nothing unusual for the DC-10 and since we're in our safe and comfortable 727, we encourage you to just sit back and enjoy your flight to New York. Flight attendants, please be seated for takeoff."

[@jamesb1988]

@@TheUtuber999 😂😂 my sentiments exactly.

[@jamesb1988]

Although the original posters comment does raise some questions... wasn't there a reporter on this crashed flight that after covering the most recent DC-10's crash said that he would not fly on one unless it was the ONLY option. If there were 727's flying in and out of that airport, seems like the reporter would have flown on one of them instead...

[@_sunshine_rainbows]

Youre channel is so popular because of your unique format of no music, no voice over and its immersive asmr like qualities. please dont start trying to change now.

[@murugurthy]

I cried listening to the CVR! it's so saddening

[@sakavijayakumari8404]

Yes

[@afterburner119]

As sad as it is, listening to it and understanding the changes that come out of it, ensures that they didn’t die in vain. Through tragedy we learn, To the families and friends 🙏✈️

[@ARedMotorcycle]

@@afterburner119 As true as that is, I'd hate to be the one that's part of setting the example, as a sacrifice for future knowledge.

[@Capecodham]

grow a pair

[@sapphiresquad7386]

8:08 I'm surprised ppl managed to survive such a crash

[@dezznutz3743]

The video shows more building traffic then there was at the time, the front end of the plane went into the building but part of the bakc of the plane was left intact. It was mostly people in the back of the plane who survived, if I recall correctly.

[@RPG-oh1yf]

No kidding, at 130 knots through a building, the impact alone is hard to imagine surviving, let alone the fire. You just never know. Usually the rear of the plane is the worst place to be seated in case of a crash and fire, but since it separated from the wings those people escaped the fire ball.

[@lunarmagiclegend]

Did the alcohol on board survive? If it did who gets it?

[@redriveral2764]

@@skjoe1115 Yep, the catering crew.

[@Droop75]

The back is the best place to be in a crash. It’s usually always the front that hits first.

[@Dr.Faran.Ophthalmology]

I really liked it without the voice over. The fear and the ambience of thrilling is totally gone with the voice. Please change it back to the old one. Rest, it was a very brilliant and emotional video.

[@cva1122]

Me too, though not totally gone. Just turn on closed captions. It's back!

[@MinecraftSheepGod]

I prefer the text as well. Honestly was very surprised when I heard a voice.

[@watershed44]

Count me in as preferring without voice.

[@kaihumphreys96]

I completely agree I found his voice annoying and I couldn’t watch the video without being distracted and ruined the atmosphere as I liked the sound of the engines and the sound effects instead of just hearing the voice and then the CVR recorders, I just prefer the old way

[@cavaalli]

same! he ruined the video and the experience, it was a mess! @theflightchannel

[@csjaugiedog]

This reminds me of the disaster Flt.006 Singapore Airlines at Taoyuan International Airport, Taiwan. Airport authorities FAILED to mark the closed runway in a way that would have prevented the disaster. A large illuminated X way before the threshold could have alerted the pilots to initiate a go-around power setting, BEFORE touchdown, and possibly clearing the truck that they hit.

[@tomortale2333]

ABOVE.....'''SIDESTEPS''' JUST ADDS CONFUSION....TRUCKS WORKIN ON RUNWAY==MORE CONFUSION...RUNWAY 23 LEFT RUNWAY 24RIGHT...ALLL STARTS TO SOUND LIKE CHINESE FIREDRILL.... ALLL THOSE LIVES LOST FOR NADA...NEVER SHOULD'VE HAPPENED. AT ALL....POOR SOULS

[@winnethepooh7986]

Sometimes life ends so abruptly, and often in fear; for most people when it is not their time, but it happens. So sad!

[@carolgomes8775]

Me: Puts data off TFC: Ok let's upload now

[@P5ychoFox]

Freddie Mercury refused to fly on DC-10s because of all the accidents. He could afford to fly on Concorde though.

[@johannesbols57]

All the time passing on HIV. What a guy.

[@egregiousqueef7781]

I flew on a couple. Grateful to have survived! I'm old enough to have flown on flights that still allowed smoking. I remember they had little ashtrays built into the armrests. It was disgusting.

[@emiliotorano1934]

@@johannesbols57 you spewing homophobia and for what? 😐 this is an airplane and airplane crash conversation, right?

[@opieutt9038]

@@emiliotorano1934 What was homophobic about that, just curious.

[@AcousticGuitarsForMe]

@@johannesbols57 Any different than you Republican buddies passing on covid?

[@ultimategaming5597]

I wait for your videos to come out. Keep up the good work!😁

[@yoboyteengohan7242]

Honestly this is the most disturbing/haunting CVR I’ve ever listened to. Not just because of the fatality/survivor ratio and what situation the pilots were in, but it was so quick. This incident, from the initial touchdown to the final impact, took less than 20 seconds to wrap itself up. And there was nothing the pilots could’ve done to save their stricken aircraft and souls on board.

[@TheUtuber999]

Twenty seconds of that kind of horror must have felt like an eternity. If you've ever been in an earthquake you can probably relate.

[@rymartinez]

Thank you very much for posting. I personally prefer the subtitles over the narration.

[@tylerholmes7246]

Well as soon as read dc 10 and mexico city in the title that haunting cvr started to ring in my ears.. One of the saddest cvrs ..

[@jimobasa525]

I subscribed to this channel because it was one of the few aviation channels with text alone and no annoying narration. What have you done?

[@cavaalli]

preach! he is self sabotaging this channel with the annoying narration! @theflightchannel

[@kaihumphreys96]

@theflightchannel Never narrate with your voice in the videos again, it ruined the videos and didn’t feel the same like before with all the emotional background music all I heard was a voice going through and I couldn’t hear the sound of the plane of the impact sorry but was very disappointed with this video

[@nekeishabrooks8118]

Y’all are grown ass men whining about narration. Be thankful the man is putting videos out PERIOD. Good lord.

[@Hartbreak1]

ah the 70s, the time when standard aviation phraseology was still only a suggestion. It's sad that even with Tenerife it took so long for standard phraseology to become commonplace. Aviation rules only change when it's paid in blood.

[@melodiefrances3898]

@raw viper so true 😢 For every warning to not do something, you know someone did ☹

[@BillGreenAZ]

@raw viper Flight regulations are written in blood. If I can take anything away from this horrific crash it's that the airline industry has removed so many of these inefficiencies that have resulted in death.

[@philipnoonan4721]

I also remembered Tenerife.

[@adotintheshark4848]

if there's anything good that comes from these crashes, it's that lessons are learned and aviation becomes a little more safe.

[@TheUtuber999]

When a pilot in command is told that a runway is closed, you can consider that a suggestion... if you are an idiot.

[@lenfirewood4089]

Frankly I'm astonished that ANYONE survived that crash let alone 16 .

[@jorgegallegos7895]

My first flight ever was exactly this flight: A Western airlines DC10 flight from México City to Los Angeles, to visit Disneyland in 1985 as a kid. I recently bought a beautiful scale model of exactly this plane and livery to remember my first flight. After seeing this video I will remember the people of this flight too. RIP.

[@uwantsun]

"I won't ever..." Famous last words.

[@khsimagesdotcom856]

Mr. Playitsafe was afraid to fly . He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye. He waited his whole damn life to take that flight and on the final approach he thought, "Well, isn't this nice?!"

[@sarahest1]

Sing it Alanis

[@khsimagesdotcom856]

@@sarahest1 Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?? 🤯🤣

[@garylefevers]

I remember hearing the cvr on 20/20 or something like that as a teenager. All these years later, the sound of that poor soul still chills me to the bone. God love them all. Stay safe folks.

[@VS-fu9ie]

You are doing a good job. Being an aviation enthusiast, I'm addicted to your channel

[@zew1414]

Wait...so the ATC never told them they would have to do that dodgy sidestep maneuver? Seems like that should have been required knowledge. And that final CVR tape is soul crushing. When you hear a man shriek like that...it just gives you chills. So sad

[@B752-t8x]

Epic! I felt very sad for the pilots after I heard CVR.

[@someonee3186]

I remember this the aircraft couldn't see anything, and landed on a runway full of construction equippment.

[@TR-vr5pz]

Contraction? LOL

[@miriamsamaniego3335]

@@TR-vr5pz 😂😂🤣🤣 They were giving birth to a new runway.

[@Somnospeed]

@@skjoe1115 The captain's last words were "QUICK... SOMEBODY BOIL SOME WATER!!!"

[@duncandmcgrath6290]

@@Somnospeed Get some clean towels Charlie!!!! I can see the head AHHHHH!

[@moonbeam7702]

@@duncandmcgrath6290 😂

[@MrKilarii]

Your use of the song Dusk by Ian Post is poignant and powerful in your videos great choice!

[@Manny32V]

That voice recorder is dark. RIP to all victims.

[@behindthen0thing525]

It's actually bright orange

[@dipanwitamandal7289]

@@behindthen0thing525 yes and also light red sometimes

[@kristinehale8649]

I had thought I had the memory of Western 2605, being the mechanical issues like the other DC 10 crashes..thanks for refreshing that.

[@ocdpzildjian]

Great work as always but honestly.. the videos work so much better without the narration and more just the captions. It really brings another element of intensity to the videos when you have just the noise of the flight etc

[@dfuher968]

Once again, a series of tiny errors, each insignificant on its own, coalesed into a deadly disaster. One of those, where u just cant point a finger and assign all the blame, coz it all had to happen for the flight to end in disaster. And that CVR.... its just sooooo much worse to listen to than to read it. Those poor pilots knowing, they were going to die.

[@GallingEssay]

I don't know what's with the real audio. But please bring back the text that used to come.

[@socalltd]

I met a survivor of this flight. He was a crew member. He also had a TV special from a network about the crash on a VHS tape and a cassette copy of the flight recorder. this was in the mid 90's.

[@OsSan_YT]

The "Mexico City" video at the start, it's actually from the Isla de Janitzio, the main island of Lake Pátzcuaro in the state of Michoacán, Mexico

[@orneryokinawan4529]

The recording really adds to the eerie end to this. Terrifying.

[@JCDofNYC]

Many here have characterized the CVR as "sad" or "depressing". What happened to these people and all the others on board who perished is sad. The CVR, on the other hand, is fucking terrifying. What is recorded is the sound of raw, sphincter-clenching horror on the part of the flight crew. It's particularly jarring because pilots are known for their cool demeanor under extreme pressure (think The Right Stuff). The juxtaposition between this reputation for calm and the desperate screams of panic heard here is difficult to bear.

[@craigusselman546]

Primal terror I also watched this with closed captioning I heard this several years ago I could not listen to that poor first officer again.

[@Capecodham]

you used bad words

[@dashamanstevo5326]

Summed up well.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

From the type of music this video started off with, I could tell the story would not end well.

[@ekaye6958]

... the title wasn't a giveaway then?

[@ThePhillipnielsen]

Thank you for reading out loud instead of only texting the history, thumbs up!

[@gsm3982]

Goosebumps over the blackbox recordings 💔